[weambulance]

(11-10-2016 07:49 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

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She was money every time I saw her in interviews. She can be white house press secretary or whatever else.

We must have watched completely different interviews. I saw her getting shat on by Cooper, CBS news and Maddow. All Democrat institutions granted but those are the tough interviews you expect her to remain firm in.

As a strategist I don't give her much, let's be real here the campaign SUCKED. It was entirely the will of the people that moved Trump across the finish line. Guys like Cernovich probably did more for the campaign than Conway. Wouldn't put her in a position higher than press Secretary.

Get real. What you're really saying is "the campaign was unusual and I don't understand why it worked so well."

[KorbenDallas]

The Republican going into 2016 had an incredible disadvantage.

Let me list them:

-Anti-Republican media. 91% of the coverage was negative towards Trump bears that out.
-Structural advantage due to demographics and the fact that Hillary was a woman was going to cut into white women, what Republicans absolutely had to win.
-Vast superior fundraising advantage.
-Support of Wall Street

Some others that Trump in particular had to overcome
-Saboteurs in the Republican Party
-No ground game in many states because of lack of support of the GOP Establishment.
-Lack of international support
-Lack of Support from the Pope when many in America are Catholics
-Mass Voter fraud and lack of voter ID in many states with a media and government willing to turn a blind eye

I could go on.

Trump ran a genius campaign and had a great team that pulled out a miracle.

[TooFineAPoint]

Please no fucking John Bolton.

Newty can stay though.

[weambulance]

Christie removed as transition chairman.

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Chris Christie's fall from grace is now complete.

Months after Christie, having lost his presidential primary to Donald Trump, had ambitions for becoming Trump's vice presidential candidate, Christie just suffered another dramatic fall from grace after President-elect Donald Trump shuffled his transition team three days after his surprising victory, and increased the influence of Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions, one of Washington’s most vocal critics of illegal immigration, while diluting that of Christie.

According to the WSJ, Chris Christie was removed as Trump campaign transition chairman on Friday, a position that will now be filled by Vice President-elect Mike Pence, the transition team confirmed. Christie will remain on the transition team’s executive committee as a vice chairman, along with Ben Carson, both largely figured positions; they will be also joined by retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Mr. Sessions.

The most drastic change on staff was the elevation of Rick Dearborn, the staff chief of Mr. Sessions’ Washington office, into the role of transition director. The move sidelined Rich Bagger, a top ally of Mr. Christie’s who held that role for the last several months. Mr. Bagger couldn’t be reached for comment.

[Wutang]

Not surprised Christie is getting the shaft - too much baggage His career in NJ is basically over now so he better hope he gets at least something.

Sessions' influence is being increased. Good for him, he was with Trump back when everyone thought Trump's campaign was a total joke and wouldn't last past the summer.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump...malertNEWS

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President-elect Donald Trump shuffled his transition team three days after his surprising victory, increasing the influence of Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions, one of Washington’s most vocal critics of illegal immigration, while diluting the role of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie .

Mr. Christie was removed as transition chairman on Friday, a position that will now be filled by Vice President-elect Mike Pence, the transition team confirmed. Mr. Christie will remain on the transition team’s executive committee as a vice chairman, along with Ben Carson, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Mr. Sessions.

[Irenicus]

Cappy Cap should get the Ministry of Education!



I can only imagine what would happen!

[weambulance]

I just looked up Kelly Ayotte to see if she lost her seat after being outspoken against Mr. Trump. She did! But now there are stories all over the internet from the last 12 hours talking about how she's being considered as SecDef.

Bullshit rumor, I assume. It'd fucking better be. I don't care how great her anti-ISIS, pro-military rep is, we do not need a split in the hot seat when our military is coming off eight years of humiliation under Obama.

[Vicious]

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Get real. What you're really saying is "the campaign was unusual and I don't understand why it worked so well."

The campaign staffs own rotations and admission that they had issues staying on message are well documented. Take it up with them that they didn't understand it.

Again, political savvy is not what won this election but regular people tired of the Kool aid the establishment has been feeding them.

[XPQ22]

Hopefully not a pack of the most useless, do-nothing scum imaginable, as is the nature of most politicians, left or right. As Trump is not technically a politician I'm cautiously optimistic about him - I can't say the same for his appointments.

I know that I'm in deep doo doo if I'm sitting around waiting on long-time Washington political hacks like motherfucking 300 year old Newt Gingrich to bail me out of trouble.

Ejecting literal dead weight Chris Christie was a no-brainer.

[Belgrano]

(11-11-2016 02:40 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

(11-10-2016 07:49 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

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She was money every time I saw her in interviews. She can be white house press secretary or whatever else.

We must have watched completely different interviews. I saw her getting shat on by Cooper, CBS news and Maddow. All Democrat institutions granted but those are the tough interviews you expect her to remain firm in.

As a strategist I don't give her much, let's be real here the campaign SUCKED. It was entirely the will of the people that moved Trump across the finish line. Guys like Cernovich probably did more for the campaign than Conway. Wouldn't put her in a position higher than press Secretary.

Get real. What you're really saying is "the campaign was unusual and I don't understand why it worked so well."

Vicious - Stumped by Trump:

(07-22-2015 08:02 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

I find the new infatuation the manosphere has with Trump to be somewhat comical and a symptom of short memory.

This is a guy that will be worn down to a nub when the actual media vetting starts. His believability as a Republican is wafer thin. He has donated more to Democrats than Republicans, supported Obama and Clinton, been pro-abortion and stood for a bunch of values and business deals he now has to distance himself from.

I actually don't think he's seriously considering a presidential bid but rather working on his personal brand.

I'd like to see a true value conservative Republican in the front running. Donald Trump is not that person.

Stumped by Samseau:

(10-20-2016 11:23 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 09:34 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 09:18 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

(10-20-2016 09:11 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Regarding the part about accepting the election result Trump picked the worst possible answer, he should have just said yes and then choose to challenge it later or just declare with conviction right away that "No, the election is rigged". Right now he's not standing for anything which is a very weak position for a presidential candidate.

I disagree.... I think it was the best possible answer.

Have you opened the papers today? Even Foxnews is saying it was a major mistake. This goes beyond just being about mainstream media.

Vicious is one of the best contrarian indicators on RVF. If he says it's true, then you know it's false. He actually thinks Sweden is doing okay even though people fly the ISIS flag there, and he lives there!!! You're stuck in a corporate bubble world, you have no idea what's going on.

Stumped by SamuelBRoberts:

(11-11-2016 09:08 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(10-21-2016 02:16 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

This is the standard MO for someone without an actual argument, off topic ad hominem on my nationality. It's always by someone that never gets out of the house let alone have even visited Sweden, but just accepting endlessly whatever they read on the Internet (ironic considering how much people whine about media here). Stop being such an angry person that lashes out at anything not fitting your immediate world view.

Let's do this though. In one month I will be countering any argument here with "your last president was a black guy with few merits and your current is a sickly geriatric woman, your opinion is invalid". All good right? You've set the bar.

PS. If you are seriously quoting me web browser polls as sources you obviously know inside you're in trouble. Especially when you're touting in the Trump thread how all polls are rigged and misleading but suddenly the ones that are the easiest to manipulate by any guy with an Internet connection are reliable?

So Vicious, have you been countering people's arguments with "your last president was a black guy with few merits and your current is a sickly geriatric woman, your opinion is invalid"?

How's that been working out for you?

When it comes to Trump, he's basically the Swedish IKE.

[Ocelot]

I was watching some Trey Gowdy videos earlier and thought this one really belongs in this thread, given he's on Trump's shortlist for Attorney General:

I would absolutely LOVE to see Trey Gowdy as Attorney General - he is one of the bravest and sharpest men left in Washington today, and a legalist and constitutional originalist. What changes over the past half-century are the most troubling in the long term? Besides sweeping demographic change, I would say without hesitation the erosion of the rule of law and the constitution.

The one thing that I'm not sure on is whether he can do more good as Attorney General, or whether his work on the Committee on Oversight and Governmental Reform is a better position to go after the crookedness in D.C. - would any members with better knowledge of the way U.S. government works like to comment?

[floor7]

I believe Trump will come good on Domestic policy agencies, but will disappoint us on economics & finance agencies/bureaus (no, ron paul or jim grant won't be getting yellen's chairmanship at the fed) or at NatSec agencies.

Sorry, John Bolton is a terrible choice. As is Mike Rodgers (ex MI congressman, now radio jock). The Pence influence in this area is worrisome.

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

(11-12-2016 07:15 PM)floor7 Wrote:  

I believe Trump will come good on Domestic policy agencies, but will disappoint us on economics & finance agencies/bureaus (no, ron paul or jim grant won't be getting yellen's chairmanship at the fed) or at NatSec agencies.

Sorry, John Bolton is a terrible choice. As is Mike Rodgers (ex MI congressman, now radio jock). The Pence influence in this area is worrisome.

This is important. The biggest threat to Trump right now is that the Deep State tries to use his status as a political novice to subvert his agenda by subtly inserting its operatives into key areas in the Trump Administration.

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

Hearing from CNN that Preibus is being named Chief of Staff.

EDIT: Steve Bannon also being named as Senior Counselor to the President and Chief Strategist.

[floor7]

(11-13-2016 04:13 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  

Hearing from CNN that Preibus is being named Chief of Staff.

EDIT: Steve Bannon also being named as Senior Counselor to the President and Chief Strategist.

Preibus will be to Trump what Emmanuel and current McDonough are to Obama.

Bannon's job is what Axelrod had inside the WH and then later Plouffe and one could argue Jarret.

the selection of Preibus was probably another Pence type thing where the kids and others around Trump implored him to do so to get along with the Hill. Bannon will be in the West wing so no worries.

[Fast Eddie]

I'm glad that Bannon retains a role but I'm disappointed by the elevation of Priebus. Guy is a garden-variety, standard-issue globalist controlled cuck. You could have Marcobot or a guac bowl in there and not tell the difference.

[Vicious]

Belgrano, do you have an actual argument other that that I didn't think Trump would be elected? His own campaign didn't even think so one week prior to the 2nd Comey letter. Some of his most stalwart supporters on this forum didn't think so 2 weeks ago.

Are you confident in your own argument if you have to bring up a 15 month year old post that hurt your feelings way back?

[Beirut]

Watching Trey Gowdy is like watching one of those attorney moves. Holy shit is the guy a sharp and great speaker.

He should have an extremely bright future ahead of him.

[greekgod]

John Bolton has bad vibes all over it.

This better be a smoke screen.

EDIT: Ok, has charisma but this attitude gives me concern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bsuNYK4qWI

[Enoch]

John Bolton is a warmongering globalist. He would be Donald Rumsfeld 2.0

It looks like the usual Goldman Sachs suspects will be in charge of Treasury and other finance / economics posts. Not too happy about that.

Bannon appointment is great.

I've been somewhat white pilled on Reince like I was with Pence.

[Libertas]

I don't like the choices I'm hearing for State at all.

Bolton is a neocon that supported the Iraq War, though he's a skeptic of the EU and I hear he's moderated some of those stances.

Giuliani is not an ideal choice for the job at all. Put him as Attorney General if he needs a post.

I like Sessions for it if he's going to be in the administration.

[weambulance]

They were saying on Faux that Sessions was being considered for SecDef.

Newt said he (himself) wanted to be a big picture planning guy, not in a specific post.

[Seth_Rose]

(11-14-2016 09:44 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

I don't like the choices I'm hearing for State at all.

Bolton is a neocon that supported the Iraq War, though he's a skeptic of the EU and I hear he's moderated some of those stances.

Giuliani is not an ideal choice for the job at all. Put him as Attorney General if he needs a post.

I like Sessions for it if he's going to be in the administration.

None of these choices are gret, but better Giuliani than Bolton.

[KorbenDallas]

I don't like Bolton.

But what is everyone's objection to Giuliani.

He seems to have come around, but I don't even know what was bad about him before.

People do change also, and he seems really loyal to Trump.

[greekgod]

(11-14-2016 11:32 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  

I don't like Bolton.

But what is everyone's objection to Giuliani.

He seems to have come around, but I don't even know what was bad about him before.

People do change also, and he seems really loyal to Trump.

I like Rudy for SoS from a demeanor standpoint. Unfortunately, going from Mayor of NYC to Foreign Policy leader just doesn't translate well.

Prefer Gowdy for AG. Has the right attitude. Uncertain if he'd be wiling to remain in public service.

Bolton seemingly came out of nowhere and I'm grasping at straws for any suitable candidates. Uncertain of the precedent but I'd imagine Federal service focused on FP is preferential to say someone with a great track record as a governor.

Can I say Jim Webb? Is that nuts?

He has the background from the his time in the Navy, clearly knows FP, and as this video clearly shows, he's aligned on the big items. Appears to be RP as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjmRr6r-9zg

Edit: and this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P9_BZWSy2E

I know its too late for his hat to be in the mix but am I missing something with this guy?

He seems solid.