Word, this thread got saved by PT and Comte.
Lifestyle/status and game are different things yet complimentary.
You can have status and leverage that into pussy and the stream will be endless. It will be status clingers and girls wanting a slice of the action. The cool stuff. The guestlist, drugs, insta stories etc. The flow starts and girls tell other girls. The itch needs to get scratched and they're lining up for a piece of you.
They are value takers. If you have game combined with this, it's the safety against getting played and acknowledging you know what they want.
Again, these are not mutually exclusive. Game works wonders because you want to fuck girls you don't know and chances are they don't know you (are aware of your status). This is why you're selling a dream to them in a short period of time.
Otherwise frolicking around with the 'do you know who I am' mentality would work every time.
This is why PT is on the money with understanding what drives women so you can hit the right buttons and ensure your energy is directed efficiently towards getting laid.
You need to relinquish all insecurities and embrace this shit. I harp on about this 24/7 -> play to your strengths. Forget about your weaknesses that are immutable (height/race whatever).
When I go over to a girls place and she usually blurts "omg sorry it's such a mess", this is psychologically powerful.
Why?
I never noticed the mess (unless it's a Syrian warzone) until you said something. Now I can't fucking ignore it.
Rule #2744 - people focus on whatever you direct their focus to .Magicians do this directly with LOOK (positive). We do this indirectly through apology (negative) and framing (positive or negative).
Rule #4553 - if you are feeling uncomfortable/insecure about something, it will be manipulated by her -> she will sense this like a shark and blood.
The former leads to the latter.
This is why you flip the switch and why confidence is key. You hone in on her insecurities and leverage them when you feel the power shifting away from the road to your ideal outcome (sex/relationship/FWB/wingwoman).
PT nails this with fear and desire.
My OP in this thread is 100% game micros, standard template which is the basics of when you're out and hitting on women you don't know. How to create flow, vibe and set the path towards a ONS.
Guys who are good internalize this. Guys who aren't, need a framework.
You go out and it's automatic and don't need most of it because it's all included in your vibe. You know you're a 10. You know its's her privilege to sit on your face. You know you have the final say in whether you take her home or not.
Game is communicating this indirectly and her accepting this and vying for that dick.
Game is a way of being a sheep in wolfs clothing but when you're a wolf, you don't need game.
You have experience.
You don't need to flip the switch and turn her into a yes and you into a maybe. (
the yes/maybe dichotomy from my OP)
The guys I know who get laid the most are DJs and photographers. Some get played but the ones who have been through enough women to figure out their nature and what they respond to don't.
I lived with a DJ who is pretty big here. Filthy, long fingernails. Crusty, disheveled hair. Wore mainly track bottoms when he went out. Drove a 20 year old hatchback with 3 stolen hubcaps. The only thing in his favour was his status. He had money but to this day, still hides it as well as possible (especially as he has a kid).
Since then this guy bought a club and owns 2 businesses (tech industry).
We had an amazing apartment which showed women we were well off and this set off alarm bells (good ones) for the women he brought over. They focus on what they want to be true, not what is; womanese: 'he probably does have a lot of money!'
When a chick wants you and you're hot/high status, some incongruence is offset by her choice of believing what she wants to be true instead of the 'worst case scenario'.
Finishing work, I would get home at 5:30PM on a Tuesday and there would be three 8s sitting in our living room, offering me tea or a line while he watched Planet Earth eating peanut butter from the jar. At least one 9 per week, usually on Fridays, before and after heading out to play a set.
My ex-girlfriend (7) HATED it and would feel so uncomfortable -> another lesson in female logic.
We would go to his studio and then 4 more hotties would join us and literally just sit around while he produced music with another producer (who also kills it). Smoke joint, bump more lines, have some wine, play some board games (?). Doesn't matter.
They needed no entertainment, no conversation, nothing. They just wanted to be around him. Sometimes to just talk shit (always about others). Sometimes to do some drugs (they always brought their own). They would go bring food and drugs and come back. At the end they would usually fuck too, this was the main theme.
When he would speak to them, it was about other people -> the female language. It's the whole thing Scott Adams discusses; figure out who are people people and things people -> who likes to talk about others and who discusses concepts.
Well, 100% of women are people people but the connection is made when you introduce concepts (sexuality, human dynamics etc.) that can be related to PEOPLE so they can understand.
So why are these 21-35 year old beauties queueing to jump on this guys dick, 4/7 days a week when he isn't at a club playing and has groupies following him around?
They just want to be around his vibe. They want to take some of his value because they're insecure and want to be seen with/around him. That's the commodity here. Status and value. Game is a way of 'printing money' in this sense.
Attention, validation, approval.
I wrote about this in the Hoes of Instagram thread.
He is always relaxing to be around, came off as 'in control of the situation' and always has cool shit happening. I partied with him 3 weekends ago and his girlfriend is smoking hot and tolerant of his shit. He's a tough guy to live with.
After a point, you fuck so many girls that your reputation precedes you and they wanna see what it's all about.
He's not even that big in the sense that he's signed to a big label. He started a local label and that's about it.
There's another 54 year old DJ here who is always out with 2-3 smokeshows wherever he goes. They're 25 odd most of the time. Some guys have security, this guy has hotties like Gaddafi and his Amazonian guard.
They also need zero entertainment. They just stand and dance around behind him in the DJ booth, bring him drinks and serve as PAs who suck his dick too. He rewards them with guestlist and other 'exclusive' perks.
This is literally all women want in 2018. Opulence. This is their long term game. Social media being a stock market, it's more crucial than ever.
Emotional connection and good sex is short term. They see other girls getting their long-term ambition, they will put up with anything to get it.
Before you jump in and tell me these guys only have status, I consider them to have more game than 99% of guys by sheer exposure to women, 24/7. Especially women who want something. They know which strings to pull to keep the rabbit right in front of the greyhound until they replace them.
That's the difference here.
When you want something from women, you go out with that mentality, your insecurities appear and your game is weak. You 'want' something. You are a 'value taker'.
When women want something from you, the tables are turned and you are the decider. This simple shift in mindset is why we learn game. To identify patterns (PT on the money) and figure out what kind of variable is needed. You are the 'value giver'.
LINUX gives the perfect example because it's internalized (quoted above). The whole unconscious competence element + giving value regardless of if she wants it or not because it's irrelevant to you.
This is why you gym, stack dollar, travel and become a well rounded, healthy and high worth individual. Men derive their confidence from their resources. This is the inflexion point when they stop wanting shit from women & women start wanting shit from them.
This is because they're happy and it's infectuous. You can be dark triad king kong dick 9000 and get laid. You can be happy and get laid too without being played.
Being happy with your life + game will get you more pussy than you can fuck.
For a lot of men, being happy = being successful and being successful = high status which is why you have to level up; it's our calling as men.
You can skin a cat in many ways. Many posters here have a different style based off who they are, life experiences etc.
The trend is constant though, you need to combine game and status to fuck the hottest women.
Guys like the ones I described earlier are the competition (and my friends) but girls want what other girls want. Until you're 'wanted' and have a solid social circle, you need the game to differentiate yourself and to communicate 'I am better than these guys' and can take women on emotional rollercoasters to flip that switch in their brains.
I only want to fuck 8s+ because I am picky and deserve only the best. I am working on a threesome with a hot lesbian couple hot because it's an experience. I am fucking a Muslim 8 who has 6 families trying to organize an arranged marriage, because it's an experience. I could fuck a 60 year old multimillionaire GILF (yes) who won a fitness competition a few years back because my game was automated but my social circle made all the above happen; it's an experience. That's my current vibe.
I ignore the SEA/third world threads due to the fact that you're just arbitraging your status. London and Manila are massively different animals.
I would prefer to fuck 2 ICE or Boss models than fuck 25 Filipinas from 'good families'.
So by definition, I am not the great white shark in the tank, but I am getting there and why game for me is still relevant. This is because the tank I chose has other predators with tastier fish.
Game is the psychological tool to boost your value and status but nothing replaces actual status so work on both.
Status is your social standing withing your environment and game is required to ensure bitches don't interfere with it and leech you for this without a give/take.
You define the give/take.
Some guy wrote a thread about Dan Bilzerian and whether he has game and is hot.
My only thought is that it is IRRELEVANT.
He has game to the extent he isn't getting played. He is letting chicks use him as a jumpoff for status because that is the game at that level that he defined as acceptable. He's got lawyers and makes them sign NDAs. He's got money to make problems disappear. He's got the logic to replace them often enough to offset any attachment issues.
News flash: he's 0.001% of men and it's inconsequential because you don't have those problems until you're at that status point and top of the food chain.
My OP in this thread is the 'wheel' of game when you're starting out and meeting unknowns.
You carry this with you when you need to penetrate higher social circles and essentially, fuck upwards when you need to be differentiated from your competition who are multimillionaires, actors, sportsmen (rugby/cricket mainly here), radio hosts, photographers, guys who own companies that charter yachts etc. The finance and tech geeks aren't really competition because they lack the abilities to elicit emotions. You can add some others to this list too.
Basically, being charismatic replaces having game and swirly whirly techniques. Being interesting augments this. Being mysterious adds the layer of thrill. Being sexy connects all of it together.
Take the game into consideration and figure how you can leverage that into women wanting something from you over a long term. Then keep the game to make sure they don't get it and you wag the carrot in front of them long enough to not get played.
The loyal ones comply with the rules. The disloyal ones will try shit with you and your understanding of game will mean you will see this coming from a mile away that you avoid this shit.
As for hot girls being hoes, they are ALL hoes but you gotta push the right buttons. You bring out the hoe in a woman, she isn't a willy nilly hoe.
If she is then that's great because you can avoid her and her traps.
Every woman turns in to a hoe when there's something she wants and has exhausted all other methods of obtaining this.
You can turn any woman in to a hoe through your masculinity and sexual vibe.
There is a difference in the above and you can have fun with both but in the one example you are playing her and in the other you are getting played.
I wrote this to illustrate that both game and status are fundamental to being a top playboy. Game is more urgent and easier to learn. The status requires more patience and dedication.
Combined, they are deadly so in future refrain from viewing it as binary as it will only set you back.