Black Caeser is dead on. This thread is almost devoid of real game tech (with a few other exceptions) and demonstrates a remarkable lack of understanding of the female psyche, and attraction to arousal sequences.

I gotta go but I'll try to come back and drop some game knowledge on you kiddies later.

Where am I going you ask? Well I just got back to the States from 10 days in the South of France with a 25 yo former Miss EE Country runner up / model smoke show so I have shit to catch up on. Im almost 47 by the way, have no tattoos, or dog and have never been a bartender

Some great knowledge being dropped in this thread. What we are losing sight of is the kind of women you seek to attract. This obsession with bartenders and djs is comical. While many of them have some local social status and built in interaction with drunk, slutty women, you have to ask yourself about what kind of women you want in your life? Most of the women who hold these type of jobs in high regard are limited, vapid types who you don’t want in your life more than one night.

Despite what social media demonstrates these days, high quality women (not just looks) still value men who have vision, goals, education and the overall constitution for successful professional careers.

Hank seems to chase a lot of bar sluts in Philly who value the tatted up bartender. It all comes down to the type of woman you are looking to attract. Also, it’s not advisable to enter into a job or career just based on what perceived status you may think it will give you with women. Many of my friends do much better than your average bartender and have far more lucrative and rewarding careers.

This thread glorifies these types of jobs just like the stupid women who are attracted to a very mediocre way of earning a living.

If you are a high value man who earns a good living and is generally contributing positively to society, there is no need to fantasize about pouring drinks and serving people for a living.

Quote: (08-04-2018 12:48 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

Some great knowledge being dropped in this thread. What we are losing sight of is the kind of women you seek to attract. This obsession with bartenders and djs is comical. While many of them have some local social status and built in interaction with drunk, slutty women, you have to ask yourself about what kind of women you want in your life? Most of the women who hold these type of jobs in high regard are limited, vapid types who you don’t want in your life more than one night.

Despite what social media demonstrates these days, high quality women (not just looks) still value men who have vision, goals, education and the overall constitution for successful professional careers.

Hank seems to chase a lot of bar sluts in Philly who value the tatted up bartender. It all comes down to the type of woman you are looking to attract. Also, it’s not advisable to enter into a job or career just based on what perceived status you may think it will give you with women. Many of my friends do much better than your average bartender and have far more lucrative and rewarding careers.

This thread glorifies these types of jobs just like the stupid women who are attracted to a very mediocre way of earning a living.

If you are a high value man who earns a good living and is generally contributing positively to society, there is no need to fantasize about pouring drinks and serving people for a living.

I'm sort of done writing about this, but I'll add one more post...

Your bartenders, DJs, MMA fighters, athletes, yadda yadda, do very well. Sorry it's unfair, they just do. Come to my private pool one weekend and check out who is banging who. The pudgy pale lawyers are generally not pounding the hot 25 year old servers. Wish they were. No matter how much game they can spit. The bartenders, the DJs, the athletes? They're pounding poon. I wish my spit, education, and money landed me the best women. It doesn't.

I'm not complaining. I wouldn't trade my professional decisions for anything. I like my law degree, owning my own businesses, and all that stuff. I'll live in my big house, play music on my big stereo, and drive my Mercedes. I'll read books in my back yard, play my Playstation, and camp when I can get away from town. I like my cigar bar, my wine bar, and the sound system in my car and house. I like all the autographed stuff in my living room, complete with authentic mid-centrury modern furniture. I like all the artwork in my office that clients made for me.

Does that stuff get me women?

Honestly, no.

Quote: (08-04-2018 12:48 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

Hank seems to chase a lot of bar sluts in Philly who value the tatted up bartender. It all comes down to the type of woman you are looking to attract. Also, it’s not advisable to enter into a job or career just based on what perceived status you may think it will give you with women. Many of my friends do much better than your average bartender and have far more lucrative and rewarding careers.

From reading other posts of Hanks, in particular the three date method thread, I don't feel that's the case. Rather, he seeks to attract quality women to spend time with as opposed than the average bar slut, as indeed do I.

Perhaps Hank could clarify?

Quote: (08-04-2018 01:30 PM)roberto Wrote:  

Quote: (08-04-2018 12:48 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

Hank seems to chase a lot of bar sluts in Philly who value the tatted up bartender. It all comes down to the type of woman you are looking to attract. Also, it’s not advisable to enter into a job or career just based on what perceived status you may think it will give you with women. Many of my friends do much better than your average bartender and have far more lucrative and rewarding careers.

From reading other posts of Hanks, in particular the three date method thread, I don't feel that's the case. Rather, he seeks to attract quality women to spend time with rather than the average bar slut, as indeed do I.

Perhaps Hank could clarify?

I'll clarify.

Personally, I prefer relatively well adjusted women. Admittedly, I'm attracted to hot women. But they're usually problematic. Actually, they are always problematic. (I suppose I am also problematic, too, though.)

I've gone both directions. I have been posting here for a long time, and have gone through phases. I'm not writing the Bible, just what comes through my mind on a daily basis.

At this juncture, I'd rather shack up with a nice girl looking to start a family, than a girl who thinks Instagram likes are the most important thing in the world. I had that, I fucked it up, I'm divorced now. Living a playboy lifestyle at 36. It's got its ups and downs.

However, I do try and write on the realities of game. If you're looking to game Instagram sloots, adjust accordingly. If you're looking for a nice girl to marry up and settle down with, again, adjust accordingly.

I think there is a loss of communication in this thread so I'll clarify things a bit because it seems like we are talking about two completely different things.

Me and Hank are talking about fucking lots of and lots of women that look decent enough. This means every week or every other week, you are with a different (keyword) woman. Others are thinking more along the lines of LTRs and marriage.

Sure, some prestigious corporate job or white collar career could get you a hot wife or even a hot girlfriend but it will stand in the way of you fucking lots and lots of women that look decent.

The issue I find is that women automatically put financially well off guys that work clean white collar jobs into the provider category, they are the free meal ticket or the extra date that keeps her belly full. A bartender is someone she can fuck for the night and forget about and a DJ is the same way. Women perceive men differently based on their profession which is why I always, without exception, hide the job I am working until I have smashed.

It literally feels like women are averse to splitting those legs for a banker, accountant, doctor, surgeon or techie because they want to keep those guys as meal tickets and play games with them.

This is why there is so much hype towards bartending and DJing because those jobs are literally made to help you fuck lots and lots of different women instead of being trapped in an LTR, sexless date or god forbid a marriage.

But guys here are not thinking about it that way.

Sure your corporate job might get you an interesting LTR who can hold a conversation for two minutes but it will stand in the way of you sleeping with tons of different women.

Now instead of addressing this point everyone will talk about how sleeping with tons of different women is "overrated" but that is not what the conversation is about. As overrated and as hated as that lifestyle might be on this forum, especially by older guys who think it is unfulfilling or whatever, the fact of the matter is that if anyone wants to pursue that kind of life then being a doctor, lawyer, techie, banker or accountant will stand in the way.

Instead, I think we're better off discussing how to go around this hurdle or obstacle for those of us who do want to sleep with lots of above average looking women.

The idea of bartending on the side has been proposed and I am trying to make that happen for myself, it is tough as fuck to break into the industry when you already have a job though. But perhaps certain hobbies or activities can help you build the lifestyle of fucking lots of different women instead of having to rely on just cold approach and online dating alone.

If you have your career on lock in your 20s, you will be banging the hottest girls of your life in your 30s and 40s. Both quality and quantity from 19-29yrs. You will be successful, confident, ability to travel and have nice things, time to spend on your hobbies, lots of paid vacation and perks, and be way more interesting than if you're merely bartending.

Quote: (08-04-2018 02:04 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

If you have your career on lock in your 20s, you will be banging the hottest girls of your life in your 30s and 40s. Both quality and quantity from 19-29yrs. You will be successful, confident, ability to travel and have nice things, time to spend on your hobbies, lots of paid vacation and perks, and be way more interesting than if you're merely bartending.

See, this is where I disagree.

Candidly, I've done the best in my 30s than ever.

On the other hand, I see bartenders smashing some of the finest smoots with impunity. Dudes in their 20s, dude in their 40s, these guys are ripping through young poon like it were their job.

I've come to the conclusion that often hot women will bang "fun" men.

I'm not always fun. I get stressed out, I have to be places, I have to do stuff. I can't go away this weekend, and I don't smoke weed. I try and have fun, but my life is often stressful.

There are some guys who are just always fun. They bartend, they don't take their work home with them, and they can spark up a joint any night of the week. Tattoos aren't a career hinderance. If they get fired, so what? Stuff happens.

Not critical of anyone's lifestyle. If it works, God bless ya.

Quote: (08-04-2018 10:59 AM)Investment Bro Wrote:  

Quote: (08-03-2018 09:52 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

This shit really helps me understand why Roosh hates American women so fucking much, its a country where a fucking bartender has a higher status in the eyes of hot girls over a lawyer, doctor or a banker. Like what in the actual fuck but we can only whine so much right, have to adjust to the game.

BC nailed it, I would suggest you go back and re-read what he said. The Tony Robbins quote and corresponding follow up are what you need right now.

I'm telling you brother, that limiting belief is going to lead you down a path of bitter cynicism. The bartender might nail more girls than you, but that's because they aren't harboring the same negativity deep down that you are right now.

The reason a lot of corporate people aren't living the player life is simple. Hank alluded to this nicely.

Corporate makes people miserable.

You think a hot girl wants to deal with joe blow who just worked a 15 hour shift and all he wants to do is come home and drink whiskey? Fuck that. Corporations are riddled with unhappy people that are stuck in the prison. Corporations can crush your soul and your self esteem to the point where theoretically high SMV men are notching way below their league, or wifed up in order to spread the burden they're carrying.

The bartender doesn't have this problem. He comes to work, is paid to chat up his customers and be social. Social activity relieves stress as opposed to creating it like corporate deadlines.

I was "lucky" in my previous role in Finance. I had a very Alpha boss/mentor who shielded me from the worst of my industry. Yes, I still worked long hours but my soul remained. I was able to attract high caliber women that wouldn't have even sniffed at a poorer bartender or DJ.

What's stopping you isn't your career, it's your mindset. Change your mindset, change your results.

Well meaning post and I respect that but hot girls are banging the bartender or DJ because he is "cool", it is that simple. I wish I was wrong but throw game and even looks aside, a lot of young hot girls live for one quick dopamine rush after another, a bartender provides that.

On the contrary, I actually love a lot of things about corporate life. It isn't just the pay but the fact that the company I have been at has a lot of younger people fresh out of college or only a few years out. If you genuinely enjoyed your major or found your skill then things like writing code, closing deals or working finance should not be much of a stress to you.

I genuinely enjoy what I do for a living and it makes me good enough money, it might not be banker money but it is decent money. The problem is not corporate life or even game, it is just the way a lot of younger women are programmed to find certain jobs "cool" and other jobs as providers for once they are old, rusty and need a free meal ticket.

The bartender is succeeding because of perception, young hot girls perceive bartenders as cool and hip while the corporate guy is perceived as a walking meal ticket. It is mainly an obstacle because of the way a lot of millennial women think in regards to men and the way women evaluate what guy they want to fuck for a night versus what guy is going to be her fall back plan for once she is out of her prime.

Then again I can't blame women, most guys out there are suckers who will be more than happy to be her free meal ticket once the DJs, bartenders, club promoters, MMA fighters and tattoo artists have blown load after load after load on her face.

I feel like because of me, this thread has turned toxic and all we have done is talk about how easy bartenders and DJs have it when it comes to smashing young poon. I'll admit, without any doubt, having a corporate or white collar job is a hindrance when it comes to living the player life mainly due to perception.

These days, my typical approach has been more about how instead of why.

On the first page, I asked Hank about how guys stuck in the corporate grind or white collar jobs can make the most of it and bang hot girls anyways.

Hank mentioned making friends with industry chicks and bartenders themselves but I have found that to be tough.

The other alternative is what Nek mentioned and one I have been trying to do myself, but it is tough as hell to even get the shot, and that is to try a side gig as a bartender. Rhyme or Reason has an awesome thread on the Life section of this forum which has provided some great info but I am finding that unless you are a hot girl yourself or some young dude who got lucky, it is going to be tough. Not giving up that easily but it is definitely a grind to get a shot as a bartender.

Another alternative I have been thinking of is trying to somehow get involved with the modeling industry, women are crazy for that validation and model label so perhaps getting in as a photographer or making your photography so good to where you can charge for shots is another way to get involved.

I am going to keep pounding the pavement with the bartender side gig for sure.

One thing is clear though, if you want to get hot girls despite working a respectful white collar job, it becomes a second job in many ways and sacrifices will need to be made. I have been posting too much in the past few days instead of taking enough action, quite frankly I've been sick and bed-ridden but feeling better today.

What I would like to do is build this awesome life, hopefully be back in NYC and after I have had some results, share the success stories and a guide with you guys given the high quality wisdom which has come from this forum.

Quote: (08-04-2018 02:25 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

I feel like because of me, this thread has turned toxic and all we have done is talk about how easy bartenders and DJs have it when it comes to smashing young poon. I'll admit, without any doubt, having a corporate or white collar job is a hindrance when it comes to living the player life mainly due to perception.

These days, my typical approach has been more about how instead of why.

On the first page, I asked Hank about how guys stuck in the corporate grind or white collar jobs can make the most of it and bang hot girls anyways.

Hank mentioned making friends with industry chicks and bartenders themselves but I have found that to be tough.

The other alternative is what Nek mentioned and one I have been trying to do myself, but it is tough as hell to even get the shot, and that is to try a side gig as a bartender. Rhyme or Reason has an awesome thread on the Life section of this forum which has provided some great info but I am finding that unless you are a hot girl yourself or some young dude who got lucky, it is going to be tough. Not giving up that easily but it is definitely a grind to get a shot as a bartender.

Another alternative I have been thinking of is trying to somehow get involved with the modeling industry, women are crazy for that validation and model label so perhaps getting in as a photographer or making your photography so good to where you can charge for shots is another way to get involved.

I am going to keep pounding the pavement with the bartender side gig for sure.

One thing is clear though, if you want to get hot girls despite working a respectful white collar job, it becomes a second job in many ways and sacrifices will need to be made. I have been posting too much in the past few days instead of taking enough action, quite frankly I've been sick and bed-ridden but feeling better today.

What I would like to do is build this awesome life, hopefully be back in NYC and after I have had some results, share the success stories and a guide with you guys given the high quality wisdom which has come from this forum.

Nah, I think you're fine in terms of the "toxicity" of this thread. If anyone made it toxic, it was me.

Perhaps my thesis overreached. I've had a bunch of stuff floating around in my head that I've wanted to put on paper. I haven't written in awhile.

I served and bartended in law school. When I go out, I'll often identify myself as "service industry" rather than "attorney." It makes life so much easier.

Quote: (08-04-2018 02:29 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

Quote: (08-04-2018 02:25 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

I feel like because of me, this thread has turned toxic and all we have done is talk about how easy bartenders and DJs have it when it comes to smashing young poon. I'll admit, without any doubt, having a corporate or white collar job is a hindrance when it comes to living the player life mainly due to perception.

These days, my typical approach has been more about how instead of why.

On the first page, I asked Hank about how guys stuck in the corporate grind or white collar jobs can make the most of it and bang hot girls anyways.

Hank mentioned making friends with industry chicks and bartenders themselves but I have found that to be tough.

The other alternative is what Nek mentioned and one I have been trying to do myself, but it is tough as hell to even get the shot, and that is to try a side gig as a bartender. Rhyme or Reason has an awesome thread on the Life section of this forum which has provided some great info but I am finding that unless you are a hot girl yourself or some young dude who got lucky, it is going to be tough. Not giving up that easily but it is definitely a grind to get a shot as a bartender.

Another alternative I have been thinking of is trying to somehow get involved with the modeling industry, women are crazy for that validation and model label so perhaps getting in as a photographer or making your photography so good to where you can charge for shots is another way to get involved.

I am going to keep pounding the pavement with the bartender side gig for sure.

One thing is clear though, if you want to get hot girls despite working a respectful white collar job, it becomes a second job in many ways and sacrifices will need to be made. I have been posting too much in the past few days instead of taking enough action, quite frankly I've been sick and bed-ridden but feeling better today.

What I would like to do is build this awesome life, hopefully be back in NYC and after I have had some results, share the success stories and a guide with you guys given the high quality wisdom which has come from this forum.

Nah, I think you're fine in terms of the "toxicity" of this thread. If anyone made it toxic, it was me.

Perhaps my thesis overreached. I've had a bunch of stuff floating around in my head that I've wanted to put on paper. I haven't written in awhile.

I served and bartended in law school. When I go out, I'll often identify myself as "service industry" rather than "attorney." It makes life so much easier.

We've all been there man, I respect you for posting this thread and bringing a lot of things to light as I have had a similar experience as you.

Bartenders, junkies, Djs bang out loads of sluts on easy mode, no doubt.

I did sacrifice my early years to getting set up financially, and had the early marriage etc. Missed out on banging those filthy sluts by the dozen on my mates couch with an empty wallet.

But I would much rather be where I am now, Spending 3 weeks touring around the finest five star coastal resorts Thailand has to offer, adventure, experiences, and money is no object.
Getting a beautiful Russian young thing to follow me on the adventure was easy as well. Shes not a slut, is classy and a LTR option, should I choose.

Meanwhile Chad the bartender is still banging washed up old sluts on his mates lounge, and scrounging up enough for a joint and a meal and sleeping on his mates lounge in old loads of jizz.

Perfectly happy with the long game thank you, never focus your life on easy sluts, invest in yourself and the quality women will come easy.

Quote: (08-04-2018 02:12 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

Quote: (08-04-2018 02:04 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

If you have your career on lock in your 20s, you will be banging the hottest girls of your life in your 30s and 40s. Both quality and quantity from 19-29yrs. You will be successful, confident, ability to travel and have nice things, time to spend on your hobbies, lots of paid vacation and perks, and be way more interesting than if you're merely bartending.

See, this is where I disagree.

Candidly, I've done the best in my 30s than ever.

On the other hand, I see bartenders smashing some of the finest smoots with impunity. Dudes in their 20s, dude in their 40s, these guys are ripping through young poon like it were their job.

I've come to the conclusion that often hot women will bang "fun" men.

Agreed, but that fun man should be you/us. There's no reason for a bartender to be seen as more 'fun' than you. I think that's just Game, he's more used to talking to hot women every night and has more practice but he's not more 'fun' in reality most of the time.

It seems we agree about doing better post-20s. Each decade I've gotten better and it's not because I have more money, but more confidence and more life experiences. Frankly, I don't often enjoy playing on 'easy' mode and just getting bar thots, but that's certainly a personal preference. When I lived in NYC I could have scored with models every night of the week if I supplied they yayo but never had desire to succeed in that fashion.

I also co-sign the amazing amount of women around here that love tattoos, but that will swing back the other way in a few years like anything fashionable. Although 'bad boys' will always turn some girls' hamsters into overdrive.

Brb, off to get an Akita for new pics...

I don't see a reason for a barman or Dj be more "fun" than me...With all due respect for them.
The only thing they have is more access to pussy, which I don't have in my daily job. But there are ways to mitigate that.

As for MMA fighters, my big respect for them, modern day Gladiators...but unless they are elite (and even them), their life evolves around getting their ass kicked, broken bones, ER visits, on the top of it many times find themselves stone out cold in the canvas with another guy still pounding on their face...If they bang some sluts here and there, I think is a well deserved prize for such a shitty profession.

Quote: (08-03-2018 09:52 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

Which brings me to my point, its all about priorities in life, for some of us fucking lots of hot girls is that priority.

As a man if your main priority in life is ever "fucking" - you should probably re-evaluate every thought process in your head.

Banging chicks and honing your skills as a man can be a healthy focus, but if they ever become a top priority at any age, then it's a sign that you've lost your way and need to get back on the path. Instead, see "banging hot chicks" as a bi-product (or result) of an optimized lifestyle.

But hey, greatness and happy, balanced, meaningful lives aren't for everyone.

I bartended and waited tables when I was in college a long time ago and it was fun. There is definitely easier access to pussy that you might not get otherwise including fellow waitstaff and bartenders who tend to be quite hot. I remember I smashed this one gorgeous Polish bartender that everyone was trying to get with so I do see where guys would want to do this. I would say though that a guy should do this only as a side gig on the weekends and not sacrifice your career for it. If you can fit it in to your schedule, it would be fun. I would tell people that I liked doing it because I could be in a party scene while making money and being sober instead of spending money and getting drunk. It never dawned on me to make it a career though (my dad was deathly afraid of this when I was doing it at the time). Plus even with a bartending gig, you still need game to get these girls since a lot of them have been on the scene for a while. If one is a gameless wonder with no social skills, being a bartender with easy access won't help your situation.

Gmac that is the discussion me and Hank have been having on this thread. Hank has a fulfilled life where so much is going in the right direction but compared to some bartender or DJ who is struggling for cash, he is not getting laid as much with hot girls. Your post is very noble and respectable but the takeaway is that "greatness and happy, balanced, meaningful lives" won't get you sex with a lot of hot girls.

As men who go on this journey, we struggle with what we really want. Some of us are genuinely willing to make the sacrifices necessary if it means we can fuck lots of hot cool girls, the amount of sacrifice varies from guy to guy. From my own experience, the very few guys I knew who were sleeping with lots of hot girls had struggles in their life outside of the hedonism.

It just comes down to what you really want and the point Hank was making is that a high quality life will not result in sex with lots of hot girls, in order to get that, you have to make specific sacrifices because specific kinds of guys sleep with hot girls.

@Doc

What else do you think I am trying to do here?

I envy you for getting to bartend in college, I wanted to do it but it was a really cliquish environment so I never even got my chance. Now I am trying to make it work as a side gig which I am finding is extremely difficult when you don't have any experience but that is a discussion for the thread on the Life forum that Rhyme or Reason posted.

Ok. The problematic here is that many guys are boring, truly boring people, no matter their hobbies, professions, social status etc. By boring I mean that they don't click the right spots in women, that want fun and excitement. Specially nowadays...

Well, a bartender or Dj can be also boring as fuck, but that sometimes is not perceived at first sight because women automatically perceive them as fun, and why? Because barmen give them access to free drinks, and djs to private rooms with cocaine, thats why mostly they are perceived as fun. Thats the elephant in the room.

A professional guy can be fun too, just gotta give them access to the same stuff.

But most guys are just boring.

Few talk about this.

Gotcha, I didn't have a chance to read the entire thread.

Rocha hit the nail on the head.

Common sense will tell you guys who hang around where "hot girls" flock are going to end up banging them more than a guy who doesn't. So obviously finding hot girls elsewhere and develop some new hobbies where different types of high quality women are having fun - i.e. salsa/cooking classes, social activity groups (i.e. running/cycling), or even church. Otherwise, the only way you're going to bang hot sloots at the club is by hanging out every night at that club. Not exactly greatness or noteworthy. Can't have it all.

Hank's original post was spot on as it explains all that. I don't see where the disconnect is. Couple buddies of mine have real full time jobs and bartend / work in the industry part-time on the side. Best of both worlds.

Quote: (08-04-2018 04:48 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Ok. The problematic here is that many guys are boring, truly boring people, no matter their hobbies, professions, social status etc. By boring I mean that they don't click the right spots in women, that want fun and excitement. Specially nowadays...

Well, a bartender or Dj can be also boring as fuck, but that sometimes is not perceived at first sight because women automatically perceive them as fun, and why? Because barmen give them access to free drinks, and djs to private rooms with cocaine, thats why mostly they are perceived as fun. Thats the elephant in the room.

A professional guy can be fun too, just gotta give them access to the same stuff.

But most guys are just boring.

Few talk about this.

Well, that's sort of my point.

The bartender lives a life of entertainment. His life revolves around knowing the best bands, trendy food, parties, etc. He doesn't take his work home with him. That makes bartenders fun and easy to be around. I like having bartenders in my social circle for that reason. If given the choice, I'd usually rather spend a night drinking with a bartender than a lawyer. As would most women. Bartenders make their money by being entertaining, so they're fun to be around.

Bartenders also work around women, which gives them more access. if you're around women all the time, you're going to end up taking a few home. That's just the law of statistics.

Can professional men be "entertaining?" Yes, absolutely.

But it's not going to be through deep knowledge of Plutarch, cryptocurrency, or a reasoned discussion on the current state of the economy. It's going to be about modern music, restaurants, the parties you go to, and other "Seinfeld" talk.

Easy and light talk is what people find entertaining. And entertaining women gets you laid.

Wow, it's been a long time since I've posted on the forum, especially the game section.

The arguments between game and non-game are one and of the same concept. Actually the bigger question revolves around congruency. Regardless of who you say you are, are you actually that person?

Attraction is oil. When two people are into each other, it almost seems as if everything is in flow. Think about a first night bang you've had after a great date. It just worked, it was smooth.

Congruency is oil. I may love basket weaving, but if I meet a girl that is curious about basket weaving then half the battle is already won.

However, if I am actually not who I say I am you create a sense of mistrust between you and a person. Mistrust manifests some of the strongest negative emotions you can fill a person with.

Regardless of who you are and what you do, be authentic about it. You actually transcend the game when you don't have to play game. My authentic self, shamelessly, is worth more than any other quality I have.

I have never understood why you have to care about your look...a minimum is of course important but if you start caring about your looks for women , this is the best way to only attract women of inferior moral quality.