[Ivanis]

(10-02-2017 08:58 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 08:53 AM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Rich retiree turned mass shooter. What were his motives and how did he obtain the rifle? Motives are starting to become clear but how he obtained the gun is still a big mystery to my knowledge.

Maybe he got it from Alphabay before it was shut down, or any other dozen black market bitcoin exchanges?

Gun ban narrative is DOA, the laws did not stop shit. Enforcement is the problem here and enforcing a ban on anything is extremely difficult in the internet age.

I think the most likely outcome from here on out is increased security at hotels. Bag checks, metal detectors, etc. Brave new world my friends.

And the odds of him being a deranged liberal are over 80%. Way too calculated, way too specific of a group.

Even then. 60+ year old male using TOR to get onto the dark web? Technology barrier alone would prove challenging unless he had a younger and more tech savvy accomplice.

[Going strong]

I'd bet this murderous guy was some anti-Trump old commie, and probably with some terminal cancer.

Spurred on by his leftist foreign female companion, and by the constant MSM incitement to violence we're all witnessing, he decided to end his life while killing many "bad, Conservative people" from a country-music concert? Seems a likely explanation.

As to his female Indo (or Mindanaoan?) companion, I now wonder what is her part in this terrible situation. Just incitement, or full aiding and abetting?

In any case, such a crime can only be motivated by a profound hatred. And what could motivate hatred against a vast crowd of White Conservative country-music concert-goers? What, if not leftist hate?

[Samseau]

^ Yep and he killed himself as police stormed into his room. We'll never know how he did it, most likely.

Huge internet crackdown, especially on the darkweb, incoming.

[nomadbrah]

(10-02-2017 08:58 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 08:53 AM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Rich retiree turned mass shooter. What were his motives and how did he obtain the rifle? Motives are starting to become clear but how he obtained the gun is still a big mystery to my knowledge.

Maybe he got it from Alphabay before it was shut down, or any other dozen black market bitcoin exchanges?

Gun ban narrative is DOA, the laws did not stop shit. Enforcement is the problem here and enforcing a ban on anything is extremely difficult in the internet age.

I think the most likely outcome from here on out is increased security at hotels. Bag checks, metal detectors, etc. Brave new world my friends.

And the odds of him being a deranged liberal are over 80%. Way too calculated, way too specific of a group.

Derange boomer liberal.

[monsquid]

https://twitter.com/abbytheodros/status/...6943607808

Twitter commenters have identified the weapon as an AR with a bump fire stock, which apparently uses a custom stock to make civilian AR's fire as if automatic by using the recoil to pull the trigger faster than human can.

[SlickyBoy]

(10-02-2017 08:27 AM)joost Wrote:  

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They do not have metal detectors at any of the LV hotels I've been at. It would be a huge inconvenience relative to cost and guest annoyance, which is why they don't have them.

Didn't knew you could enter the hotel and have access to the concert without a security checkpoint.

He shot from the rooftop of the Mandalay which as I understand it was not inside the venue at all, so no access control was even considered. You can be sure they'll be checking security and observing rooftops all over the place in future situations.

The fact that they've mentioned he was "known to police" and that he had a (unspecified) criminal past suggests he may have a felony conviction and therefore would be in possession of the weapons illegally. From what I heard, that was a full auto weapon - unless he was using some kind of a bump-firing trick. Full auto weapons are a no-go for anyone with a record and all of the legal ones are federally registered with the ATF, so that's an even bigger question. Converting a regular semi-auto to full auto isn't as simple as the press likes to make it sound.

What's most disturbing is what his wife/companion of his did - telling everyone they're going to die before being kicked out of the arena. If she had any idea he was going to do this and didn't notify cops she ought to get slammed.

They aren't calling this terrorism yet because there's no evidence of a motive.

[infowarrior1]

(10-02-2017 09:10 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

^ Yep and he killed himself as police stormed into his room. We'll never know how he did it, most likely.

Huge internet crackdown, especially on the darkweb, incoming.

How successful would those efforts be?

[Roosh]

Interview with his brother at 4 hour mark.

https://youtu.be/8uDnp5LB2P4

Shooter has no prior military experience. Brother is flabbergasted how he got weapons. Probably just covering his ass. Relations seemed estranged.

[Going strong]

Other possible explanation would be:

The criminal dude was a black-market arms dealer?, being in a hotel room for a shady arms deal, waiting to sell.

His Indonesian Barry-loving female lover gets in a row (over politics or religion or race, certainly, what else could it be?) on the street with country-music concert goers, insults are swapped. The Indo female threatens the concert-goers with death (as explained by witnesses), goes back in a murderous and blood-thirsty fury to the hotel room.

In the hotel room, she says to her stupid beta lover that she has just been insulted by "bad rayciss country-music red-neck people" down on the street. Dude then takes his illegal guns, shoot from the window, in a blind rage (while the female Indo escapes)...?

[Suits]

It's just a guess, but I'm suspecting that it would be easier to modify a rifle to fire in full automatic than to buy one that came that way stock.

[kosko]

Las Vegas and London England have the most CCTV cameras watching every square mile in earth. Everything in that city is recorded along the strip. They should be ample video of this guy leaving his hotel to get food, checking in, everything.

His girlfriend must of known and if she has been a long time worker in the industry she maybe had connections or knew soft spots of where to sneak stuff into the hotel.

Has the girlfriend been captured, or is she on the run?

This is completely messed up. I'm angry at all of this because it is all so petty and gross, what did these innocent people do? 50 plus folks gone over some bullshit.

[TravelerKai]

(10-02-2017 08:29 AM)Only One Man Wrote:  

How many liberal democrats do you know that are super into guns?

Texas has plenty of those believe it or not. Mostly in Houston, Dallas, and Austin. Some are even into Open Carry.

Some percentage of black gun nuts are liberal or Democrat as well. I could not guess the % of how many of them are, but it's enough to be noticeable when you go to gun ranges and see what guns they have, then see liberal bumper stickers on their cars.

It's tough to know without exact polling data for people "super into guns" but the Pew Center claims in 2014 that 23% of households with guns are liberal. So it stands to reason that a gun nut percentage would be less than that 23%.

[Samseau]

(10-02-2017 09:18 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Interview with his brother at 4 hour mark.

https://youtu.be/8uDnp5LB2P4

Shooter has no prior military experience. Brother is flabbergasted how he got weapons. Probably just covering his ass. Relations seemed estranged.

His brother claims Paddock had NO affiliations with anyone or anything. No religion, politics, no groups of any kind. He said, "He just hung out."

He says there is "nothing" to go on. His entire family is shocked and has no idea wtf is going on.

We all want an easy explanation, but nothing makes sense.

[nomadbrah]

He could very well be a biker-related criminal with the 13 tattoo.

[SlickyBoy]

(10-02-2017 08:55 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 08:35 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Well, someone post his Facebook / social media as soon as it's found. I also suspect that he's a liberal, but it could also be that he's just an unrelated psycho.

And no motive?

Come on mate. Country music = Trump supporters. He booked this in advance with plans to kill people from a birds nest position. He made sure he was in that room.

Psychopaths do this thing but he had a motive and this motive is political.

He definitely didn't pick that room by accident.

As for the number 13, not sure, but there are theories as to its meaning.

Nice to see the media checked to see whether he was a military veteran since you know that was the first thing they were wishing. Fuckers ought to realize it's rarely a military veteran who does shit like this. If he was 64, that means he was old enough to have been drafted before they ended it in 1973. Guess he either got lucky or found some way out of it - which would again suggest a leftie ex-hippie.

[Foolsgo1d]

Is there any truth to the woman saying people are going to die at the event? Was it the woman he has on his facebook?

[Beirut]

Isis has claimed responsibility

[Ivanis]

^
They'd claim responsibility for a North Korean Nuke. It was way too well planned to be ISIS IMO. It will be interesting to see how the MSM handles the claim. Will they go straight into Religion Of Peace mode?

[armenia4ever]

Notice it was a country music fest. Maybe he was an angry leftist targeting what he thought were backwards rednecks. Media is already jumping up and down on the dead bodies to rant about gun control.

[Turnus]

(10-02-2017 09:28 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Is there any truth to the woman saying people are going to die at the event? Was it the woman he has on his facebook?

Local TV station has an interview with a girl claiming a "Hispanic" looking lady came up to her and said that and caused a ruckus in the crowed and than was escorted away by security.

[Suits]

(10-02-2017 09:26 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 08:29 AM)Only One Man Wrote:  

How many liberal democrats do you know that are super into guns?

Texas has plenty of those believe it or not. Mostly in Houston, Dallas, and Austin. Some are even into Open Carry.

Some percentage of black gun nuts are liberal or Democrat as well. I could not guess the % of how many of them are, but it's enough to be noticeable when you go to gun ranges and see what guns they have, then see liberal bumper stickers on their cars.

It's tough to know without exact polling data for people "super into guns" but the Pew Center claims in 2014 that 23% of households with guns are liberal. So it stands to reason that a gun nut percentage would be less than that 23%.

Anyone can gain a better understand of the world by simply learning to stop viewing vague, millions-large categories of people as a single caricature.

Doing so will even allow a person to gain and respect allies he would have formerly despised.

[Thrill Jackson]

(10-02-2017 09:26 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 09:18 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Interview with his brother at 4 hour mark.

https://youtu.be/8uDnp5LB2P4

Shooter has no prior military experience. Brother is flabbergasted how he got weapons. Probably just covering his ass. Relations seemed estranged.

His brother claims Paddock had NO affiliations with anyone or anything. No religion, politics, no groups of any kind. He said, "He just hung out."

He says there is "nothing" to go on. His entire family is shocked and has no idea wtf is going on.

We all want an easy explanation, but nothing makes sense.

If he in fact has no religion that is somewhat of a connection in itself. As posted earlier on this page he found a way to dodge the military draft.

Dodged draft + atheism = far left nut?

Far left nut that hated Trump and planned to shoot up a country music festival full of Trump supporters?

That's all I can make of it as of now.

[RaulValdez739]

We should hang the dead body of the white male terrorist from a tree.

[Roosh]

[url=https://twitter.com/PzFeed/status/914854849719750656][/url]

Waiting for verification.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Fresh convert to Islam it seems.

ISIS claimed responsibility.

Seems to be a cultural marxist who after joining Islam took it up a notch.

Unlikely to be a false flag in this case. The globalists don't want war with Islam for now. And they will be hard pressed to suppress the full truth of this today.

Marxists and Islamists are the two biggest terrorists out there in terms of body count and violent ideology.

Seems to be a combination of both. Crazy that Dan Bilzerian almost got shot.