[MMX2010]

406. Fuck.

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[Ivanis]

Regardless of who the shooter is, what the MSM will fail to mention is how the firearm was obtained. It is a catch 22 of bad news if they do. On the one(and more probable hand), he may have gotten it illegally. However, on the other hand, he may have gotten it legally. To my knowledge, in order to get it legally he would have needed a Class III firearms license. Meaning that he would have needed FBI background checks and extreme vetting. So either the GOV let it slip(which is bad for the gun ban narrative), or he got it illegally(which is bad for the gun ban narrative).

As a member eluded to previously, the shooter seemed to have had issues with local municipalities so it seems more plausible that he purchased this gun illegally.

[MMX2010]

(10-02-2017 08:19 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Why are people still talking about Trump Derangement Syndrome if the perpetrator is not this Anti-Trumper Geary Danley as initially thought, but Stephen Paddock? Is there some info about Stephen Paddock's motivation / politics that's already out?

Not yet. I'm going to sleep soon, but I'm sure someone will immediately post anything crucial.

However, the fact that this was a country music festival and the shooter is white are very big clues. No, they don't prove anything - but based on American demographics and the Steve Scalese shooting, I put 75% odds that this was a liberal Democrat shooter.

Hell, that Thomas Wictor tweet which said "multiple weapons and firing positions, plus cameras to tell him when the cops were close" makes me want to up it to 85%.

[nomadbrah]

I understand the full auto ban and we see the reason for it here.

What are you going to do though, it's clear that banning guns doesn't stop terrorism. It would help against school shootings and suicide-killings like this though.

I'd like to see some solid statistics though. The US is 300 million people, the entire region of Europe. How many more are killed by guns by comparable demographics (white christians).

[MMX2010]

This idea, or something close to it, has been tweeted by at least twenty people that I've seen, including that stupid asshole Jamelle Boise.

I don't think it's bots, nor a coordinated media campaign funded by Soros. I think it's a spontaneous idea simultaneously reached by multiple people.

Fuck them all.

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[joost]

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They do not have metal detectors at any of the LV hotels I've been at. It would be a huge inconvenience relative to cost and guest annoyance, which is why they don't have them.

Didn't knew you could enter the hotel and have access to the concert without a security checkpoint.

[Only One Man]

How many liberal democrats do you know that are super into guns?

[Ivanis]

(10-02-2017 08:26 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

I understand the full auto ban and we see the reason for it here.

What are you going to do though, it's clear that banning guns doesn't stop terrorism. It would help against school shootings and suicide-killings like this though.

I'd like to see some solid statistics though. The US is 300 million people, the entire region of Europe. How many more are killed by guns by comparable demographics (white christians).

People would still find a way to do evil. Look at the UK crime statistics, mostly blunt objects and knifes due to heavy gun restrictions. I will try to find a stat and DM you.

[Sonoma]

His choice of shooting venue and Facebook indicate pretty clearly he's a liberal

Edit: I see that the Facebook found is off the suspect girlfriends husband? Interesting

[Rush87]

(10-02-2017 08:27 AM)joost Wrote:  

Quote:

They do not have metal detectors at any of the LV hotels I've been at. It would be a huge inconvenience relative to cost and guest annoyance, which is why they don't have them.

Didn't knew you could enter the hotel and have access to the concert without a security checkpoint.

He wasn't at the concert. He was shooting from a hotel window into the concert.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Well, someone post his Facebook / social media as soon as it's found. I also suspect that he's a liberal, but it could also be that he's just an unrelated psycho.

[Alsos]

(10-02-2017 07:48 AM)Only One Man Wrote:  

The thing I hate about the gun control argument is it seems like most people are either totally on one side or the other. There is a huge middle ground between banning all guns and letting everyone buy whatever gun they want with essentially no regulations. Why are so many on the pro gun side so against a national gun registry and increased background checks so people with a history of domestic violence, assault, mental instability, ect, aren't able to legally buy guns?...

Because that line of thinking is rightly perceived as a textbook example of how a ratchet strategy is justified.

Look at the history of gun control organizations and movements and such in this country. They all rely on that exact kind of "middle-ground" and "common-sense reform" thinking to do their dirty work. And it's a lie from start to finish.

[Roosh]

The media/government will never tell us the truth about this guy.

[MMX2010]

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[Rush87]

(10-02-2017 08:44 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

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Does anyone know what the '13' tattooed on his neck is?

[Roosh]

To understand the motive of the shooter, it would be helpful to look at his victims: mostly white and mostly conservative. Sounds like a liberal.

[Razor Beast]

(10-02-2017 08:46 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

To understand the motive of the shooter, it would be helpful to look at his victims: mostly white and mostly conservative. Sounds like a liberal.

A retired liberal who was probably glued to CNN 24/7. Left wing wind up toy made possible by deranged MSM coverage.

[Rush87]

(10-02-2017 08:46 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

To understand the motive of the shooter, it would be helpful to look at his victims: mostly white and mostly conservative. Sounds like a liberal.

One would assume so. It's not a spur of the moment incident but rather a calculated, well planned shooting. He could have picked any number of targets in Vegas from any number of events but he chose a country music concert.

[Ivanis]

(10-02-2017 08:49 AM)Razor Beast Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 08:46 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

To understand the motive of the shooter, it would be helpful to look at his victims: mostly white and mostly conservative. Sounds like a liberal.

A retired liberal who was probably glued to CNN 24/7. Left wing wind up toy courtesy of MSM.

Still doesn't explain why or how he acquired an automatic weapon. Even if it was a false flag you'd think the people behind it would give him something legal so these questions wouldn't be asked.

Rich retiree turned mass shooter. What were his motives and how did he obtain the rifle? Motives are starting to become clear but how he obtained the gun is still a big mystery to my knowledge.


EDIT: Saw nomads post below: If he has gang connections that could explain his access to the highly regulated weapons.

[nomadbrah]

(10-02-2017 08:46 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 08:44 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

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Does anyone know what the '13' tattooed on his neck is?

Source beware.

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It's a symbol of luck, but also entails misfortune before a greater reward.

An occult symbol of resurrection and re-birth, i.e. Christ, anti-Christ, Lucifer, the phoenix, One, return of the messiah, God's incarnation in human form, the visiting of the alien-human hybrid that put life on Earth, Jesus

GOOD LUCK LIKE LUCKY 13

The 13th letter of the alphabet is M . In outlaw biker culture a tatt or patch of the #13 usually means drugs as in Meth or Pot. RUBs and the like often say it stands for Motorcycle.

A tattooist gets a number 13 tattooed on them once they've been in the business for 13years and its a great mark of respect when a tattoist has earnt the right to wear the number 13.

Friday the 13th was originally the day of good luck not bad luck.

Traditional tattoo symbols have kind of lost their meaning, and a certain symbol can mean almost anything. 13 can mean bad luck, it can be associated with the gang MS-13, or it could just be their lucky number.

He is either a tattooist, biker or occultist or a combination.

Edit: or MS-13 member, but seems unlikely.

Boomer tattooist or biker boomer seems more likely.

[Foolsgo1d]

(10-02-2017 08:35 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Well, someone post his Facebook / social media as soon as it's found. I also suspect that he's a liberal, but it could also be that he's just an unrelated psycho.

And no motive?

Come on mate. Country music = Trump supporters. He booked this in advance with plans to kill people from a birds nest position. He made sure he was in that room.

Psychopaths do this thing but he had a motive and this motive is political.

[Alsos]

Or that "13" is just his neck wattle.

[heavy]

(10-02-2017 08:46 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

To understand the motive of the shooter, it would be helpful to look at his victims: mostly white and mostly conservative. Sounds like a liberal.

True, although when someone (a liberal woman) said today "even country concerts aren't safe now", I said "terrorism knows no demographic".

But yeah, I'm guessing he clearly hates country fans or and probably southerners. So probably an anti-Trump lib.

Regarding gun laws (let's preempt the debate), I recall a book I read as a kid on making a gun:


Better start burning books.

[Samseau]

(10-02-2017 08:53 AM)Ivanis Wrote:  

Rich retiree turned mass shooter. What were his motives and how did he obtain the rifle? Motives are starting to become clear but how he obtained the gun is still a big mystery to my knowledge.

Maybe he got it from Alphabay before it was shut down, or any other dozen black market bitcoin exchanges?

Gun ban narrative is DOA, the laws did not stop shit. Enforcement is the problem here and enforcing a ban on anything is extremely difficult in the internet age.

I think the most likely outcome from here on out is increased security at hotels. Bag checks, metal detectors, etc. Brave new world my friends.

And the odds of him being a deranged liberal are over 80%. Way too calculated, way too specific of a group.

[RIslander]

Imagine if the shooting had been at a Snoop Dogg concert? Nobody in the liberal fake news media gives a shit about white conservatives. I describe the mood on CNN as "lightly suppressed delight".