Any normal Ukrainian hates Jews. I am not sure in which part of Ukraine you find these pro israel and pro Jews
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Quote: (04-23-2019 03:16 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:
Any normal Ukrainian hates Jews. I am not sure in which part of Ukraine you find these pro israel and pro Jews
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Quote: (04-23-2019 03:07 AM)diego69 Wrote:
New generation of Ukrainians see Israel as a model for successful country, while being surrounded by hundreds of millions of enemies still can defend itself and have successful economy - very like their situation and Russia just they cant defend them and their economy sucks.
Quote: (04-23-2019 04:29 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:
Ukrainians always refer as Mama Odessa & Papa Kryvoy Rog for mafia cities .
Not sure if that s "nice " for jews in the case of Odessa
@Rocha - the girls you are talking about are surely dechristiniased Ukrainians
Quote: (04-23-2019 07:26 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:
Quote: (04-23-2019 05:32 PM)H1N1 Wrote:
What a shameful thread.
Many of life's losers become preoccupied with conspiracies about Jews.
Does this mean Henry Ford was a loser?
Quote: (04-23-2019 05:32 PM)H1N1 Wrote:
What a shameful thread.
Many of life's losers become preoccupied with conspiracies about Jews. This is true of a significant minority of Ukrainians, just as it is, increasingly, for a significant minority of this forum.
Quote: (04-23-2019 12:18 PM)Jungle Wrote:
Where specifically is the confirmed lies and where is the conspiracy theories? State it... where? Those who quickly throw around the term "antisemitic" are the ones who are projecting their own anti-white racism.
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A kingdom of poverty to rule. White women starving
Quote: (04-23-2019 05:32 PM)H1N1 Wrote:
What a shameful thread.
Many of life's losers become preoccupied with conspiracies about Jews. This is true of a significant minority of Ukrainians, just as it is, increasingly, for a significant minority of this forum.
Quote: (04-23-2019 10:18 PM)Checkmat Wrote:
Quote: (04-23-2019 12:18 PM)Jungle Wrote:
Where specifically is the confirmed lies and where is the conspiracy theories? State it... where? Those who quickly throw around the term "antisemitic" are the ones who are projecting their own anti-white racism.
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[quote]The world’s largest Jewish community center opens to the public this Sunday with a 10-hour schedule of events, but the buzz around the new Menorah Center in Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine, is palpable following the private opening yesterday of its Jewish Memory and Holocaust Museum.
Built at a main intersection between the left and right banks of the Dnepr River, the seven-towered 538,000 square foot center was spearheaded by philanthropist Gennady Bogolubov, president of the local Jewish community and chairman of the Ukrainian Jewish Congress, and his Privat banking partner Igor Kolomoyskyy.
Quote: (04-23-2019 05:32 PM)H1N1 Wrote:
What a shameful thread.
Many of life's losers become preoccupied with conspiracies about Jews. This is true of a significant minority of Ukrainians, just as it is, increasingly, for a significant minority of this forum.
Quote: (04-23-2019 04:40 PM)Rocha Wrote:
Quote: (04-23-2019 04:29 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:
Ukrainians always refer as Mama Odessa & Papa Kryvoy Rog for mafia cities .
Not sure if that s "nice " for jews in the case of Odessa
@Rocha - the girls you are talking about are surely dechristiniased Ukrainians
Never heard that one...the common one is Odessa Mama and Rostov Papa, because of the connection of both of these Portuary Cities mobs.
And also never heard of Kryvoy Rog as a mafia city, it is known for its Industrial output and not for mafia activity. The famous ones in Ukraine besides Odessa where always Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk, and more recently Vinnytsya and Sumy.
You make me doubt again of your Ukraine knowledge...
As for the bolded part...not sure if serious...
Quote: (04-24-2019 04:33 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:
Quote: (04-23-2019 04:40 PM)Rocha Wrote:
Quote: (04-23-2019 04:29 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:
Ukrainians always refer as Mama Odessa & Papa Kryvoy Rog for mafia cities .
Not sure if that s "nice " for jews in the case of Odessa
@Rocha - the girls you are talking about are surely dechristiniased Ukrainians
Never heard that one...the common one is Odessa Mama and Rostov Papa, because of the connection of both of these Portuary Cities mobs.
And also never heard of Kryvoy Rog as a mafia city, it is known for its Industrial output and not for mafia activity. The famous ones in Ukraine besides Odessa where always Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk, and more recently Vinnytsya and Sumy.
You make me doubt again of your Ukraine knowledge...
As for the bolded part...not sure if serious...
We maybe have to redefine what is mafia. There is "mafia" in every village of Ukraine. Many villages are controlled by one family who will then allow X or Y from his "circle" to open the only profitable things in town ( the main supermarket , the main flower shop , the gym if the town is bigger etc etc) . In this acceptation of the term we can find mafia in every single city. In this context , Kryvoy Rog is the biggest.
As for international links , you might be right with Rostov , I have never heard it though. I have always heard Papa Kryvoy Rog . Odessa has always been a gateway even to sexual slavery with Turkey , there is no doubt Jewish influence has a big role in this.
For the bolded part , I am dead serious.
Quote: (04-24-2019 05:40 AM)Rocha Wrote:
Quote: (04-24-2019 04:33 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:
Quote: (04-23-2019 04:40 PM)Rocha Wrote:
Quote: (04-23-2019 04:29 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:
Ukrainians always refer as Mama Odessa & Papa Kryvoy Rog for mafia cities .
Not sure if that s "nice " for jews in the case of Odessa
@Rocha - the girls you are talking about are surely dechristiniased Ukrainians
Never heard that one...the common one is Odessa Mama and Rostov Papa, because of the connection of both of these Portuary Cities mobs.
And also never heard of Kryvoy Rog as a mafia city, it is known for its Industrial output and not for mafia activity. The famous ones in Ukraine besides Odessa where always Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk, and more recently Vinnytsya and Sumy.
You make me doubt again of your Ukraine knowledge...
As for the bolded part...not sure if serious...
We maybe have to redefine what is mafia. There is "mafia" in every village of Ukraine. Many villages are controlled by one family who will then allow X or Y from his "circle" to open the only profitable things in town ( the main supermarket , the main flower shop , the gym if the town is bigger etc etc) . In this acceptation of the term we can find mafia in every single city. In this context , Kryvoy Rog is the biggest.
As for international links , you might be right with Rostov , I have never heard it though. I have always heard Papa Kryvoy Rog . Odessa has always been a gateway even to sexual slavery with Turkey , there is no doubt Jewish influence has a big role in this.
For the bolded part , I am dead serious.
Bunch of bullshit regarding Krivoy Rog, and such expression does not exist. The only one existing is Odessa Mama, Rostov Papa.
Also regarding the dechristianisation of Ukrainians, if you are serious it is are even worse, because everybody whether Ukrainian, or Russian, Belarussian, Latvian, was dechristianised in the Soviet Union.
As I suspected, you know nothing about what you talking about regarding FSU or Slavic topics of discussion.
Quote: (04-24-2019 04:05 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:
Quote: (04-24-2019 05:40 AM)Rocha Wrote:
Quote: (04-24-2019 04:33 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:
Quote: (04-23-2019 04:40 PM)Rocha Wrote:
Quote: (04-23-2019 04:29 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:
Ukrainians always refer as Mama Odessa & Papa Kryvoy Rog for mafia cities .
Not sure if that s "nice " for jews in the case of Odessa
@Rocha - the girls you are talking about are surely dechristiniased Ukrainians
Never heard that one...the common one is Odessa Mama and Rostov Papa, because of the connection of both of these Portuary Cities mobs.
And also never heard of Kryvoy Rog as a mafia city, it is known for its Industrial output and not for mafia activity. The famous ones in Ukraine besides Odessa where always Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk, and more recently Vinnytsya and Sumy.
You make me doubt again of your Ukraine knowledge...
As for the bolded part...not sure if serious...
We maybe have to redefine what is mafia. There is "mafia" in every village of Ukraine. Many villages are controlled by one family who will then allow X or Y from his "circle" to open the only profitable things in town ( the main supermarket , the main flower shop , the gym if the town is bigger etc etc) . In this acceptation of the term we can find mafia in every single city. In this context , Kryvoy Rog is the biggest.
As for international links , you might be right with Rostov , I have never heard it though. I have always heard Papa Kryvoy Rog . Odessa has always been a gateway even to sexual slavery with Turkey , there is no doubt Jewish influence has a big role in this.
For the bolded part , I am dead serious.
Bunch of bullshit regarding Krivoy Rog, and such expression does not exist. The only one existing is Odessa Mama, Rostov Papa.
Also regarding the dechristianisation of Ukrainians, if you are serious it is are even worse, because everybody whether Ukrainian, or Russian, Belarussian, Latvian, was dechristianised in the Soviet Union.
As I suspected, you know nothing about what you talking about regarding FSU or Slavic topics of discussion.
While you may know history quite well , you often make bold statements which are not linked to today's reality. Soviet Union was trying hard but has never killed faith , it has weakened religions. I have always seen a lot of people attending mass in churches in FSU , particularly in Ukraine. In Central Asia there were always a lot of people in mosques or churches. The majority of "far-right" catholic leaders (not nazis) have always stated in their books how impressed how lively the faith in soviet union , even during soviet times. And so was I when I visited and lived there.
Quote: (04-24-2019 12:38 PM)Beirut Wrote:
My experience combines both of your inputs. I mainly agree with Rocha's observations except about the perception of Krivoy. A local girl i dated from there for a while kept talking about mafia hold of her city.
Another mentioned school gfs of hers being pimped out by the local mafia and stories like that (which happens in all cities but mafia conversations took a large part with those two)
I dont know if that repuation goes beyond the city itself but the two locals i met there constantly mentioned mafia issues.
However, with everything else id agree with Rocha about the views towards religion in general and jews. At least ime.