[Polniy_Sostav]

Any normal Ukrainian hates Jews. I am not sure in which part of Ukraine you find these pro israel and pro Jews
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[Rocha]

(04-23-2019 03:16 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  

Any normal Ukrainian hates Jews. I am not sure in which part of Ukraine you find these pro israel and pro Jews
..

Maybe Odessa.

Some girls like Jews though, but specially local ones. They are seen as guys who can make money and provide them a good life.

I never heard a good word about Israelis though, might have to do to with the stupid hooligan way they behave when on the way to their pilgrimage to Uman.

[Going strong]

(04-23-2019 03:07 AM)diego69 Wrote:  

New generation of Ukrainians see Israel as a model for successful country, while being surrounded by hundreds of millions of enemies still can defend itself and have successful economy - very like their situation and Russia just they cant defend them and their economy sucks.

You can't seriously compare Russians "surrounding" the Ukraine, with "Arabs" surrounding Israel.

Most Arabs indeed hate Israel's guts, while on the other hand, Russians do not hate Ukrainians. Most Russians, if not all, see Ukrainians as cute though unsophisticated (regarding females) - or plump and yes, unsophisticated, nice family members (re males).

The "hatred" between Slavic brothers has been engineered by the xenophobic Obama (and the evil Clintons), end of story. In any case, once again, Russians like Ukrainians, just the way you like your (nice and a bit funny) well-fed cousins from the countryside.

[Polniy_Sostav]

Ukrainians always refer as Mama Odessa & Papa Kryvoy Rog for mafia cities .
Not sure if that s "nice " for jews in the case of Odessa
@Rocha - the girls you are talking about are surely dechristiniased Ukrainians

[Rocha]

(04-23-2019 04:29 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  

Ukrainians always refer as Mama Odessa & Papa Kryvoy Rog for mafia cities .
Not sure if that s "nice " for jews in the case of Odessa
@Rocha - the girls you are talking about are surely dechristiniased Ukrainians

Never heard that one...the common one is Odessa Mama and Rostov Papa, because of the connection of both of these Portuary Cities mobs.

And also never heard of Kryvoy Rog as a mafia city, it is known for its Industrial output and not for mafia activity. The famous ones in Ukraine besides Odessa where always Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk, and more recently Vinnytsya and Sumy.

You make me doubt again of your Ukraine knowledge...

As for the bolded part...not sure if serious...

[H1N1]

What a shameful thread.

Many of life's losers become preoccupied with conspiracies about Jews. This is true of a significant minority of Ukrainians, just as it is, increasingly, for a significant minority of this forum.

[TigerMandingo]

(04-23-2019 05:32 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

What a shameful thread.

Many of life's losers become preoccupied with conspiracies about Jews.

Does this mean Henry Ford was a loser?

[H1N1]

(04-23-2019 07:26 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(04-23-2019 05:32 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

What a shameful thread.

Many of life's losers become preoccupied with conspiracies about Jews.

Does this mean Henry Ford was a loser?

What an astonishingly stupid (And amusingly feminine) question.

1. If you are making a point generally, then yes, it is possible to be financially successful and still be a loser. Examples are everywhere, many threads about these figures feature regularly on this forum.

2. If you are being specific, then I would have to ask if the man cited by Hitler, and much of the then Reichstag, as their primary inspiration a figure you want to draw on to support the reasonableness of your position? I mean, it is an amusing illustration that 'Godwin's law' is not always unreasonably applied, but I don't think he is the strongest example you could have drawn on to support your position, however unlovely and tenuous it may be. Though perhaps it is the perfect example?

[TigerMandingo]

So let’s stick with Henry Ford then, if you don’t mind . What is it about his beliefs on Jews that made him a “loser”? I’m just interested in your reasoning.

[911]

(04-23-2019 05:32 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

What a shameful thread.

Many of life's losers become preoccupied with conspiracies about Jews. This is true of a significant minority of Ukrainians, just as it is, increasingly, for a significant minority of this forum.

[Rocha]

My take on Zelenskiy.

He is funny, a real funny mofo. Also a very clever guy, a lawyer by formation, but I think he started as a stand up comedian. He then created a production company called Kvartal 95, that makes real comedy, most of the sketches in Vecherniy Kvartal (a weekly show, in sketches format) are hilarious to say the least. They mocked everybody, Jews, faggots, Poroshenko, Obama, Merkel, Yanukovich, the far right, the far left, the girls of instagram, the gold digger girls...well, almost all that we criticize around here, just with a lot of more sense of humour.

I can be partial since watching these sketches made me understand much more the Russian speaking humour, and the language, but damn, those guys are funny.

Below you see him mocking jews, the nationalist fag Oleg Lyashko, or that sick transvestite Conchita Wurst.

So, we are not talking here about an Hillary Clinton or a Macron.

I believe that this guy will be clever, and will put some new people working for him, not people from this hard line Poroshenko/Radical Party/Praviy Sektor rethoric against Russia (which by the way was the only thing holding Poroshenko). And he will try to solve the mess that the country is in, starting with the war in Donbas, and by diplomatic means.

Lastly, people want a change, a change from conventional Politicians who have been governing themselves mostly, an end to (high level) corruption, an end to war, an end to hardship...so this guy brings some hope. But he better take care and do things well, because from info I have...errors will not be tolerated and people are ready for another Maidan...

It was him...he went forward, but could have been some other outsider at this point, I remember a few months ago the singer of the band Okean Elzy (Stanislav Vakarchuk) was high in the voting poles, he did not went further ahead though with his candidacy.

Also some note, is that the guy was widely known long before he portrayed a school teacher turned President of Ukraine in the show "Sluga Narod", and that is the only thing that Western Media portrays him for being famous off.

[Checkmat]

(04-23-2019 12:18 PM)Jungle Wrote:  

Where specifically is the confirmed lies and where is the conspiracy theories? State it... where? Those who quickly throw around the term "antisemitic" are the ones who are projecting their own anti-white racism.

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[eradicator]

Quote:

A kingdom of poverty to rule. White women starving

At least they are nice and thin in Ukraine

[Jungle]

(04-23-2019 05:32 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

What a shameful thread.

Many of life's losers become preoccupied with conspiracies about Jews. This is true of a significant minority of Ukrainians, just as it is, increasingly, for a significant minority of this forum.

Cool story bro... so if someone criticises Jews they are "losers preoccupied with conspiracies"? Usually when one doesn't have an argument they resort to discredit with baseless labels, such as "losers" and "conspiracy theorists".

So here's a label for you in return, you sound like an anti-white racist.

Apparently if you are an indigenous European or Ukrainian concerned about the power being controlled by Jewish oligarchs who have been destroying and subverting every white nation for decades despite this demographic being less than 1% of the population, then you are a "loser" and "antisemite".

Apparently if you are an indigenous European or Ukrainian concerned about Jews controlling your country, despite the fact that Jews committed a genocide against 10 million Christian Ukrainians, then also you are a "loser" and "antisemite".

(04-23-2019 10:18 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  

(04-23-2019 12:18 PM)Jungle Wrote:  

Where specifically is the confirmed lies and where is the conspiracy theories? State it... where? Those who quickly throw around the term "antisemitic" are the ones who are projecting their own anti-white racism.

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Ok now try using critical thinking to formulate an argument to refute any of these so-called "conspiracies"... isn't it funny how stating basic facts makes one a "conspiracy theorist"

[speculator]

Ukraine, Belarus, some parts of Poland and Western Russia are sacred for Jews. The most brilliant Jews come from this part of the world. If you look up the ancestry of elite American and other Western Jews, most of it is from this region, from Warner Brothers to Sheldon Adelson, from Saul Alinsky to Michael Bloomberg. This is a sacred triangle that Jews from all over the world will return to when the American empire falls.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/trave...chernobyl/

For 30 years, New York native Yitz Twersky spent all his time and money researching his genealogy, connecting eight generations and over 50,000 people to their roots in Chernobyl, the site of catastrophic nuclear disaster in 1986. He funded hundreds of genetic tests to confirm distant relations, while combing through historical records of a prominent Jewish dynasty. Once satisfied with his life pursuit, Yitz traveled to the birthplace of his family in Ukraine for the first time, breathing fresh life into the surrounding contamination.

Quote:

https://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/...-Opens.htm

[quote]The world’s largest Jewish community center opens to the public this Sunday with a 10-hour schedule of events, but the buzz around the new Menorah Center in Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine, is palpable following the private opening yesterday of its Jewish Memory and Holocaust Museum.

Built at a main intersection between the left and right banks of the Dnepr River, the seven-towered 538,000 square foot center was spearheaded by philanthropist Gennady Bogolubov, president of the local Jewish community and chairman of the Ukrainian Jewish Congress, and his Privat banking partner Igor Kolomoyskyy.

If you think that Jews are over-represented in power structures in white countries, look no further than Peru and other Latin American countries. There are about 3,000 Jews in Peru but most of the prime ministers and vice presidents in the last 25 years have been Jews.

We can bitch about them all day long but we have to admit they are truly remarkable and goal-oriented people. After many years of research and personal interactions and friendships with Jews, I came to the conclusion that they may indeed be the leaders our world needs. It's like choosing between Schopenhauer and Leibniz's philosophies: the former argues that we live in the worst possible world and the latter claims that this is the best possible world we can live in. Throughout years I shifted from Schopenhauer to Leibniz.

Ukraine, Russia, USA, Sweden, or any white majority country is ruled by minorities. We on this board give to much credit to Putin and Russians who are second class citizens in their own country. Russia is owned by Jews, Armenians, Georgians, and other minorities. Same applies to Ukraine. Look up the members of government and you will find Jews, Armenians, and Georgians and very few Ukrainians. If anyone on this board thinks that USA or any other Western country is different, they are truly mistaken. Tribal mentality will always win against civic nationalism.

[Sp5]

Wow. It was 73% for Zelinsky vs 24% for Poroshenko with 62% voter turnout.

There's never been a result like that in the USA.

[Polniy_Sostav]

(04-23-2019 05:32 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  

What a shameful thread.

Many of life's losers become preoccupied with conspiracies about Jews. This is true of a significant minority of Ukrainians, just as it is, increasingly, for a significant minority of this forum.

Then you are either Jewish or you don't care about western civilization.

[Polniy_Sostav]

(04-23-2019 04:40 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(04-23-2019 04:29 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  

Ukrainians always refer as Mama Odessa & Papa Kryvoy Rog for mafia cities .
Not sure if that s "nice " for jews in the case of Odessa
@Rocha - the girls you are talking about are surely dechristiniased Ukrainians

Never heard that one...the common one is Odessa Mama and Rostov Papa, because of the connection of both of these Portuary Cities mobs.

And also never heard of Kryvoy Rog as a mafia city, it is known for its Industrial output and not for mafia activity. The famous ones in Ukraine besides Odessa where always Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk, and more recently Vinnytsya and Sumy.

You make me doubt again of your Ukraine knowledge...

As for the bolded part...not sure if serious...

We maybe have to redefine what is mafia. There is "mafia" in every village of Ukraine. Many villages are controlled by one family who will then allow X or Y from his "circle" to open the only profitable things in town ( the main supermarket , the main flower shop , the gym if the town is bigger etc etc) . In this acceptation of the term we can find mafia in every single city. In this context , Kryvoy Rog is the biggest.

As for international links , you might be right with Rostov , I have never heard it though. I have always heard Papa Kryvoy Rog . Odessa has always been a gateway even to sexual slavery with Turkey , there is no doubt Jewish influence has a big role in this.

For the bolded part , I am dead serious.

[Rocha]

(04-24-2019 04:33 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  

(04-23-2019 04:40 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(04-23-2019 04:29 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  

Ukrainians always refer as Mama Odessa & Papa Kryvoy Rog for mafia cities .
Not sure if that s "nice " for jews in the case of Odessa
@Rocha - the girls you are talking about are surely dechristiniased Ukrainians

Never heard that one...the common one is Odessa Mama and Rostov Papa, because of the connection of both of these Portuary Cities mobs.

And also never heard of Kryvoy Rog as a mafia city, it is known for its Industrial output and not for mafia activity. The famous ones in Ukraine besides Odessa where always Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk, and more recently Vinnytsya and Sumy.

You make me doubt again of your Ukraine knowledge...

As for the bolded part...not sure if serious...

We maybe have to redefine what is mafia. There is "mafia" in every village of Ukraine. Many villages are controlled by one family who will then allow X or Y from his "circle" to open the only profitable things in town ( the main supermarket , the main flower shop , the gym if the town is bigger etc etc) . In this acceptation of the term we can find mafia in every single city. In this context , Kryvoy Rog is the biggest.

As for international links , you might be right with Rostov , I have never heard it though. I have always heard Papa Kryvoy Rog . Odessa has always been a gateway even to sexual slavery with Turkey , there is no doubt Jewish influence has a big role in this.

For the bolded part , I am dead serious.

Bunch of bullshit regarding Krivoy Rog, and such expression does not exist. The only one existing is Odessa Mama, Rostov Papa.

Also regarding the dechristianisation of Ukrainians, if you are serious it is are even worse, because everybody whether Ukrainian, or Russian, Belarussian, Latvian, was dechristianised in the Soviet Union.

As I suspected, you know nothing about what you talking about regarding FSU or Slavic topics of discussion.

[Beirut]

My experience combines both of your inputs. I mainly agree with Rocha's observations except about the perception of Krivoy. A local girl i dated from there for a while kept talking about mafia hold of her city.

Another mentioned school gfs of hers being pimped out by the local mafia and stories like that (which happens in all cities but mafia conversations took a large part with those two)

I dont know if that repuation goes beyond the city itself but the two locals i met there constantly mentioned mafia issues.


However, with everything else id agree with Rocha about the views towards religion in general and jews. At least ime.

[Kid Twist]

I must admit, when I read "ukrainian comedian wins in landslide" and saw that he was 5'7" in the bio the jewdar instantly went off.

[H1N1]

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[Polniy_Sostav]

(04-24-2019 05:40 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

(04-24-2019 04:33 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  

(04-23-2019 04:40 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(04-23-2019 04:29 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  

Ukrainians always refer as Mama Odessa & Papa Kryvoy Rog for mafia cities .
Not sure if that s "nice " for jews in the case of Odessa
@Rocha - the girls you are talking about are surely dechristiniased Ukrainians

Never heard that one...the common one is Odessa Mama and Rostov Papa, because of the connection of both of these Portuary Cities mobs.

And also never heard of Kryvoy Rog as a mafia city, it is known for its Industrial output and not for mafia activity. The famous ones in Ukraine besides Odessa where always Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk, and more recently Vinnytsya and Sumy.

You make me doubt again of your Ukraine knowledge...

As for the bolded part...not sure if serious...

We maybe have to redefine what is mafia. There is "mafia" in every village of Ukraine. Many villages are controlled by one family who will then allow X or Y from his "circle" to open the only profitable things in town ( the main supermarket , the main flower shop , the gym if the town is bigger etc etc) . In this acceptation of the term we can find mafia in every single city. In this context , Kryvoy Rog is the biggest.

As for international links , you might be right with Rostov , I have never heard it though. I have always heard Papa Kryvoy Rog . Odessa has always been a gateway even to sexual slavery with Turkey , there is no doubt Jewish influence has a big role in this.

For the bolded part , I am dead serious.

Bunch of bullshit regarding Krivoy Rog, and such expression does not exist. The only one existing is Odessa Mama, Rostov Papa.

Also regarding the dechristianisation of Ukrainians, if you are serious it is are even worse, because everybody whether Ukrainian, or Russian, Belarussian, Latvian, was dechristianised in the Soviet Union.

As I suspected, you know nothing about what you talking about regarding FSU or Slavic topics of discussion.

While you may know history quite well , you often make bold statements which are not linked to today's reality. Soviet Union was trying hard but has never killed faith , it has weakened religions. I have always seen a lot of people attending mass in churches in FSU , particularly in Ukraine. In Central Asia there were always a lot of people in mosques or churches. The majority of "far-right" catholic leaders (not nazis) have always stated in their books how impressed how lively the faith in soviet union , even during soviet times. And so was I when I visited and lived there.

[Rocha]

(04-24-2019 04:05 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  

(04-24-2019 05:40 AM)Rocha Wrote:  

(04-24-2019 04:33 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  

(04-23-2019 04:40 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(04-23-2019 04:29 PM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:  

Ukrainians always refer as Mama Odessa & Papa Kryvoy Rog for mafia cities .
Not sure if that s "nice " for jews in the case of Odessa
@Rocha - the girls you are talking about are surely dechristiniased Ukrainians

Never heard that one...the common one is Odessa Mama and Rostov Papa, because of the connection of both of these Portuary Cities mobs.

And also never heard of Kryvoy Rog as a mafia city, it is known for its Industrial output and not for mafia activity. The famous ones in Ukraine besides Odessa where always Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk, and more recently Vinnytsya and Sumy.

You make me doubt again of your Ukraine knowledge...

As for the bolded part...not sure if serious...

We maybe have to redefine what is mafia. There is "mafia" in every village of Ukraine. Many villages are controlled by one family who will then allow X or Y from his "circle" to open the only profitable things in town ( the main supermarket , the main flower shop , the gym if the town is bigger etc etc) . In this acceptation of the term we can find mafia in every single city. In this context , Kryvoy Rog is the biggest.

As for international links , you might be right with Rostov , I have never heard it though. I have always heard Papa Kryvoy Rog . Odessa has always been a gateway even to sexual slavery with Turkey , there is no doubt Jewish influence has a big role in this.

For the bolded part , I am dead serious.

Bunch of bullshit regarding Krivoy Rog, and such expression does not exist. The only one existing is Odessa Mama, Rostov Papa.

Also regarding the dechristianisation of Ukrainians, if you are serious it is are even worse, because everybody whether Ukrainian, or Russian, Belarussian, Latvian, was dechristianised in the Soviet Union.

As I suspected, you know nothing about what you talking about regarding FSU or Slavic topics of discussion.

While you may know history quite well , you often make bold statements which are not linked to today's reality. Soviet Union was trying hard but has never killed faith , it has weakened religions. I have always seen a lot of people attending mass in churches in FSU , particularly in Ukraine. In Central Asia there were always a lot of people in mosques or churches. The majority of "far-right" catholic leaders (not nazis) have always stated in their books how impressed how lively the faith in soviet union , even during soviet times. And so was I when I visited and lived there.

Who are those "far right" catholic leaders (not nazis)"?
Name one, and one book.

Bullshit again.

Of course many people kept their faith, but people only started going to church after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

[Rocha]

(04-24-2019 12:38 PM)Beirut Wrote:  

My experience combines both of your inputs. I mainly agree with Rocha's observations except about the perception of Krivoy. A local girl i dated from there for a while kept talking about mafia hold of her city.

Another mentioned school gfs of hers being pimped out by the local mafia and stories like that (which happens in all cities but mafia conversations took a large part with those two)

I dont know if that repuation goes beyond the city itself but the two locals i met there constantly mentioned mafia issues.


However, with everything else id agree with Rocha about the views towards religion in general and jews. At least ime.

So what???

There is mafia everywhere in Ukraine and even in Ukrainian communities abroad.

That expression he wrote was said by no one ever.

I say it again, it is "Rostov papa, Odessa mama". That guy knows nothing about what he is talking about.