Quote: (11-04-2016 06:42 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:
John, in my opinion, you and Rob and others continue misunderstand what some guys are saying.
No one is saying invest in a slut. Who would? I don't think you'll find anyone advocating for this, and I haven't seen that in this thread.
Some here have implied that a girl who has fucked one guy (even in a LTR) is now an irredeemable slut who should be avoided for an LTR, that catastrophe is all but guaranteed. This is the reason why you are finding disagreement. I think even Baptists have a more forgiving definition of "slut" than some of the statements here.
This is not an argument of some saying invest in whores and others saying no do not invest in whores. It's the defining of "whore" to include having kissed another man, by ridiculous criteria- then obsessing over these unreasonable definitions of whore, and ridiculing anyone who sees this as nonsense.
No one here is arguing that a woman who once kissed a man is just as bad as a hooker who had sex with 1000 dudes.
That being said, I consider that anything beyond kissing (and that includes sexting) counts as "sexual activity" and affects the soul of a woman. She will never be fully yours if she once belonged to (i.e. gave her body to) another man.
And I'm not saying that "catastrophe" (i.e. getting cucked or divorce-raped) is guaranteed with any non-virgin. The risk increases, but it is by no means guaranteed. Here's the thing, though: even if I
was 100% sure a girl would not cheat or divorce me, her sexual past would
still make me uncomfortable. It's not only about future risk, it's about how I feel towards her when I look into her eyes.
Also, it is a fact that throughout 99% of civilized history, even before Christianity, women who were not virgins --yes, even girls who had sex with
one guy-- were considered unmarriageable by the vast majority of decent men. Just because I was born at the height of the feminist era doesn't mean I am just going to conform to modern values and pretend not to care that a girl has had penises in her orifices.
Quote: (11-04-2016 06:42 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:
You are pretending that your beliefs are -or should be- the standard to go by when determining if a girl is worth "investing in".
John and I are just giving our opinions. Neither of us said our beliefs are the "standard" in determining anything. Obviously, we believe we are right and we will try to convince people of that, but we both have made it clear that we support a man's right to date whatever woman he wants to date.
Quote: (11-04-2016 06:42 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:
In the other thread you guys were lamenting the industrial revolution for Christ's sake because of its perceived impact on the ability to find quality women.
That was my thread, and the Industrial Revolution (and technology in general) has had a far greater effect on our society and culture than just "the ability to find quality women." You even quoted from a recent Roosh article in which he basically says the same thing I'm saying about modern technology, and then you went on to say how much you disagreed with Roosh.
If you disagree, I don't mind you (or anyone) calling me out and stating your point, but don't act like John and I are saying such crazy things when even the guy who runs this forum agrees with us (that goes for the topic of virginity
and the topic of modern technology):
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http://www.rooshv.com/city-life-is-a-simulation
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http://www.rooshv.com/the-future-mother-...ves-in-god