[Baldrich]

(08-12-2016 02:18 PM)Vronski Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 01:53 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

You wear American CLOTHING BRANDS. MAKE YOUR OWN. If you guys are so talented as you claim to be, why don't you make your own stuff?

As a side note, Zara (Spanish brand as we all know, world's largest retailer with some € 12.000 billion revenue/year) has about 2200 stores in the world, but just a few dozens in the US ...... Americans are too big (obese) for Zara clothes.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/fat-shaming...d=17725146

That's true -- obesity is a problem in the US - but that has to do more with inequality of sorts than with no good food available. I know you didn't make that point but I just mention it because some ignorant euro types seem to think that an American supermarket only consists of stocking hamburgers, hot dogs and ketchup.

You can find any ingredient and prepare any Mediterranean style cooking you want living in the US. It's just a matter of priorities. Ok, side note.

On to the point: Zara is not really "Spanish" clothes though. All the models are basically same stuff you would find in the US with perhaps a slightly different cut. Interesting article - so others have seized the opportunity and Zara has chosen not to. Typically Spanish: let others do the work. "Que inventen ellos" is a FAMOUS historical phrase here from centuries ago. "Let others invent!"

[Rocha]

Baldrich, do you get laid in Spain?

[Baldrich]

(08-12-2016 02:32 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Baldrich, do you get laid in Spain?

All the time - but not by Spanish girls (I prefer Scandinavians and French women here). I have been with Spanish girls, short-term, but they're just not my type and neither are Italian women. Too much drama and baggage.

[Vronski]

(08-12-2016 02:27 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

On to the point: Zara is not really "Spanish" clothes though. All the models are basically same stuff you would find in the US with perhaps a slightly different cut.

Zara is admittedly a "follower", as all the cheap brands. But they follow the Italian and French designer trends, not the US trends (there is no such thing as a "US trend" anyway when it comes to fashion -except maybe for Jim Bob from the trailer park of Alabama and Tyrone from some urban ghetto).

But anyway, as I said, it's the world's largest retailer with some € 12.000 billion revenue/year. And it's a Spanish brand. Sorry but your "You wear American CLOTHING BRANDS, MAKE YOUR OWN" is just nonsense.

[pater familias]

OK fellas. This thread is just an opportunity for a butthurt expat to yell us his miseries.
Baldrich, get a counselor to explain him your shit. RooshV forum is for alphas.

PS: About your ignorant comment on food:
Take a look at Spanish/French Mediterranean cuisine. Only Catalonia itself has got the best restaurant in the world for more than 7 years: Bulli + Can Roca.
http://www.theworlds50best.com/list/1-50-winners
Restaurant Magazine judged elBulli to be Number One on its Top 50 list of the world's best restaurants for a record five times—in 2002, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009, and #2 in 2010.[7][8][9]

It is not a chauvinist thing, it is a WORLD RECOGNITION that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best. The entire planet comes to Catalonia/Basque country/Southern France for THEIR OWN gastronomy. Calling a culture shallow because they value food is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

Go back to the US, bro, we don’t need you.

[Lime]

(08-12-2016 02:47 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

It is not a chauvinist thing, it is a WORLD RECOGNITION that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best. The entire planet comes to Catalonia/Basque country/Southern France for THEIR OWN gastronomy. Calling a culture shallow because they value food is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

Contrast in food is big in Spain. Yes there are some of the best restaurants but many general Spanish restaurants are owned by opportunistic small restaurant operators who deliver garbage. You can eat very bad in Spain, too. Certainly the TOP CLASS restaurants are much better than in northern Europe but the bottom restaurants are way worse in Spain.

In Germany/Holland/France at least you can get basic food for a good quality in restaurants. In Spain you have to do your homework because many small restaurants for a quick lunch or dinner are low quality. Very easy to eat very bad.

High end food in Spain is good but lower end restaurants are bad if you don't do your homework well, contrasting to some countries where almost every restaurant serves good food. You can find cheap gems in Spain, though.

[pater familias]

(08-12-2016 03:00 PM)Lime Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 02:47 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

It is not a chauvinist thing, it is a WORLD RECOGNITION that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best. The entire planet comes to Catalonia/Basque country/Southern France for THEIR OWN gastronomy. Calling a culture shallow because they value food is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

Contrast in food is big in Spain. Yes there are some of the best restaurants but many general Spanish restaurants are owned by opportunistic small restaurant operators who deliver garbage. You can eat very bad in Spain, too. Certainly the TOP CLASS restaurants are much better than in northern Europe but the bottom restaurants are way worse in Spain.

In Germany/Holland/France at least you can get basic food for a good quality in restaurants. In Spain you have to do your homework because many small restaurants for a quick lunch or dinner are low quality. Very easy to eat very bad.

High end food in Spain is good but lower end restaurants are bad if you don't do your homework well, contrasting to some countries where almost every restaurant serves good food. You can find cheap gems in Spain, though.

If you fall into tourist traps is your problem. It takes five seconds to approach a local and ask for good cheap places.

[Vronski]

(08-12-2016 03:03 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

If you fall into tourist traps is your problem.

I find Spanish tapas too greasy.

[Lime]

(08-12-2016 03:03 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 03:00 PM)Lime Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 02:47 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

It is not a chauvinist thing, it is a WORLD RECOGNITION that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best. The entire planet comes to Catalonia/Basque country/Southern France for THEIR OWN gastronomy. Calling a culture shallow because they value food is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

Contrast in food is big in Spain. Yes there are some of the best restaurants but many general Spanish restaurants are owned by opportunistic small restaurant operators who deliver garbage. You can eat very bad in Spain, too. Certainly the TOP CLASS restaurants are much better than in northern Europe but the bottom restaurants are way worse in Spain.

In Germany/Holland/France at least you can get basic food for a good quality in restaurants. In Spain you have to do your homework because many small restaurants for a quick lunch or dinner are low quality. Very easy to eat very bad.

High end food in Spain is good but lower end restaurants are bad if you don't do your homework well, contrasting to some countries where almost every restaurant serves good food. You can find cheap gems in Spain, though.

If you fall into tourist traps is your problem. It takes five seconds to approach a local and ask for good cheap places.

I'm not talking tourist traps, I'm talking normal Spanish cafe/restaurants. Weird meat and not much attention to quality.

[GlobalMan]

(08-12-2016 02:47 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

OK fellas. This thread is just an opportunity for a butthurt expat to yell us his miseries.

Baldrich, get a counselor to explain him your shit. RooshV forum is for alphas.

It is not a chauvinist thing, it is a WORLD RECOGNITION that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best. The entire planet comes to Catalonia/Basque country/Southern France for THEIR OWN gastronomy.

Go back to the US, bro, we don’t need you.

Pater I think it's time you put the chorizo down and take a breather. This is getting ridiculous.

People are taking this way too personally.

The guy has valid criticisms of the place. Spain has many faults, that is clear to anyone who has spent time there. As does any place. They don't all stem from a "failure to adapt". Some things just aren't great.

There is no "world recognition that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best". Even if there was some sort of authority on the matter, which there isn't, who gives a shit? You like it, another guy doesn't.

The guy has his reasons for wanting to move on, and I think after a decade of living there he has plenty of standing to make some judgements on the place and draw conclusions, both subjective and objective.

Not wanting to compromise any longer or tiring of certain aspects of life in a place is not a poor reflection on the man, it's just life.

One thing that is certain- a 5 post new member has no place trying to tell others what the forum is about or throwing out personal insults.

[Baldrich]

(08-12-2016 02:47 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

OK fellas. This thread is just an opportunity for a butthurt expat to yell us his miseries.
Baldrich, get a counselor to explain him your shit. RooshV forum is for alphas.

PS: About your ignorant comment on food:
Take a look at Spanish/French Mediterranean cuisine. Only Catalonia itself has got the best restaurant in the world for more than 7 years: Bulli + Can Roca.
http://www.theworlds50best.com/list/1-50-winners
Restaurant Magazine judged elBulli to be Number One on its Top 50 list of the world's best restaurants for a record five times—in 2002, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009, and #2 in 2010.[7][8][9]

It is not a chauvinist thing, it is a WORLD RECOGNITION that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best. The entire planet comes to Catalonia/Basque country/Southern France for THEIR OWN gastronomy. Calling a culture shallow because they value food is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.

Go back to the US, bro, we don’t need you.

As I said earlier, if food is your benchmark to judging more important aspects, then that's your problem. I called YOU shallow for valuing that over other things. Do you really need to live in a specific place to get good food?

And also, your opinion isn't even correct. Sure, Catalunya and Southern France have very good cuisines - did I ever DENY that? I said I DON'T LIVE TO EAT. Many other sources point to Chinese and Indian food as equally good if not better. You are just biased because YOU think those are the best cuisines. It is NOT a settled issue.

EVEN IF Spain had ALL the best restaurants in the world (which it doesn't and never will), do you really think that's going to convince everyone to love the place? Do you really think everyone lives to eat?


The entire planet comes to Spain to eat? Seriously? What are you smoking?

I can see debating is also not your strong point. I particularly like it when someone resorts to insults or telling people to go see a shrink. You've lost the argument right there.

[Baldrich]

(08-12-2016 03:08 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 02:47 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

OK fellas. This thread is just an opportunity for a butthurt expat to yell us his miseries.

Baldrich, get a counselor to explain him your shit. RooshV forum is for alphas.

It is not a chauvinist thing, it is a WORLD RECOGNITION that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best. The entire planet comes to Catalonia/Basque country/Southern France for THEIR OWN gastronomy.

Go back to the US, bro, we don’t need you.

Pater I think it's time you put the chorizo down and take a breather. This is getting ridiculous.

People are taking this way too personally.

The guy has valid criticisms of the place. Spain has many faults, that is clear to anyone who has spent time there. As does any place. They don't all stem from a "failure to adapt". Some things just aren't great.

There is no "world recognition that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best". Even if there was some sort of authority on the matter, which there isn't, who gives a shit? You like it, another guy doesn't.

I am not sure about his nationality but judging from how he writes and how hurt he feels, he sounds definitely Spanish. This is the sort of crap I have to go through everyday here. People get REALLY REALLY pissed if you even bring up these topics for debate. He has proven my point well and I thank him for it. That's how many many many Spanish will react when a debate topic about Spain that is not positive is ever brought up. That's why I can't stand the people for the most part...because they act the same way. They get all hysterical and fanatical, resort to personal insults, don't know how to keep calm or keep their cool, etc.

Thankfully there are other many interesting people on this board.

[pater familias]

(08-12-2016 03:08 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 02:47 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

OK fellas. This thread is just an opportunity for a butthurt expat to yell us his miseries.

Baldrich, get a counselor to explain him your shit. RooshV forum is for alphas.

It is not a chauvinist thing, it is a WORLD RECOGNITION that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best. The entire planet comes to Catalonia/Basque country/Southern France for THEIR OWN gastronomy.

Go back to the US, bro, we don’t need you.

Pater I think it's time you put the chorizo down and take a breather. This is getting ridiculous.

People are taking this way too personally.

The guy has valid criticisms of the place. Spain has many faults, that is clear to anyone who has spent time there. As does any place. They don't all stem from a "failure to adapt". Some things just aren't great.

There is no "world recognition that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best". Even if there was some sort of authority on the matter, which there isn't, who gives a shit? You like it, another guy doesn't.

This guy does not have valid criticisms. This guy failed to integrate into Spain despite his background and comes here to rant until the point of insult ( I also have Spanish ancestry)

Dude, I have lived abroad for 8 years, 4 different countries. As a SELF-INVITED guest in a new country the thing to do is:

Discover the things that are better.
Discover the things that are worse.
Discover the things that are different.

EVALUATE:
better + good different > worse STAY.
ELSE. Leave.

Roosh recently recorded a video about this. A man can only stay in a new country once: he builds a family there, he builds a meaningful business there or he participates in the public life of the country. This person did not do it. 10 years later, he is back. Roosh dixit.

And yes, there is World recognition you like it or not. Relativism like yours is what is flushing the US down the toilet.

[Rocha]

I like spanish chicas dirty talk.

Mas fuerte cabron, asì que me corrooooo!! )))

I find it sexy with their cigarrette voice))

[pater familias]

(08-12-2016 03:19 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 03:08 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 02:47 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

OK fellas. This thread is just an opportunity for a butthurt expat to yell us his miseries.

Baldrich, get a counselor to explain him your shit. RooshV forum is for alphas.

It is not a chauvinist thing, it is a WORLD RECOGNITION that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best. The entire planet comes to Catalonia/Basque country/Southern France for THEIR OWN gastronomy.

Go back to the US, bro, we don’t need you.

Pater I think it's time you put the chorizo down and take a breather. This is getting ridiculous.

People are taking this way too personally.

The guy has valid criticisms of the place. Spain has many faults, that is clear to anyone who has spent time there. As does any place. They don't all stem from a "failure to adapt". Some things just aren't great.

There is no "world recognition that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best". Even if there was some sort of authority on the matter, which there isn't, who gives a shit? You like it, another guy doesn't.

This guy does not have valid criticisms. This guy failed to integrate into Spain despite his background and comes here to rant until the point of insult ( I also have Spanish ancestry)

Dude, I have lived abroad for 8 years, 4 different countries. As a SELF-INVITED guest in a new country the thing to do is:

Discover the things that are better.
Discover the things that are worse.
Discover the things that are different.

EVALUATE:
better + good different > worse STAY.
Else: LEAVE.

Roosh recently recorded a video about this. A man can only stay in a new country once: he builds a family there, he builds a meaningful business there or he participates in the public life of the country. This person did not do it. 10 years later, he is back. Roosh dixit.

And yes, there is World recognition you like it or not. Relativism like yours is what is flushing the US down the toilet.

[Baldrich]

(08-12-2016 03:19 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 03:08 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 02:47 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

OK fellas. This thread is just an opportunity for a butthurt expat to yell us his miseries.

Baldrich, get a counselor to explain him your shit. RooshV forum is for alphas.

It is not a chauvinist thing, it is a WORLD RECOGNITION that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best. The entire planet comes to Catalonia/Basque country/Southern France for THEIR OWN gastronomy.

Go back to the US, bro, we don’t need you.

Pater I think it's time you put the chorizo down and take a breather. This is getting ridiculous.

People are taking this way too personally.

The guy has valid criticisms of the place. Spain has many faults, that is clear to anyone who has spent time there. As does any place. They don't all stem from a "failure to adapt". Some things just aren't great.

There is no "world recognition that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best". Even if there was some sort of authority on the matter, which there isn't, who gives a shit? You like it, another guy doesn't.

This guy does not have valid criticisms. This guy failed to integrate into Spain despite his background and comes here to rant until the point of insult ( I also have Spanish ancestry)

Dude, I have lived abroad for 8 years, 4 different countries. As a SELF-INVITED guest in a new country the thing to do is:

Discover the things that are better.
Discover the things that are worse.
Discover the things that are different.

EVALUATE:
better + good different > worse STAY.
ELSE. Leave.

Roosh recently recorded a video about this. A man can only stay in a new country once: he builds a family there, he builds a meaningful business there or he participates in the public life of the country. This person did not do it. 10 years later, he is back. Roosh dixit.

And yes, there is World recognition you like it or not. Relativism like yours is what is flushing the US down the toilet.

If you think criticizing and pointing out deficiencies in a place is "insulting", you have other issues you need to deal with. I KNOW you are "typically" Spanish...definitely and you've proven my point well. You can't take criticism, but you sure love to hand it out and expect nobody to call you out on it. What do you know about my "integration" here? I speak the language NATIVE LEVEL...NO ACCENT, and Catalan. I pay my taxes, I have a history here. You are in no position to tell me if I'm integrated or not. Now, if by integrated you mean pigheaded, then no, I'm not integrated and neither are many other Spaniards (thankfully).

As I have said, I DO have a business here. So? That still doesn't cancel out the negative aspects.

I have also participated in the "public life" - except that in Spain there is really not that much to choose from when it comes to civic society...because there is NO tradition of civic society after 40 years of fascist dictatorship and mediocre third-rate pseudo-democracy known by thinking Spaniards as "partidocracia" (rule by parties). So you see, I have done my homework. You clearly don't know what you're talking about or simply cannot express yourself well enough to make a good point.

Did I say EVERYTHING was bad in Spain?

It seems I have committed blasphemy by saying Spain is not perfect and not a place for ambitious souls. If that hurts your ego, too bad. I couldn't give a shit.

Do yourself a favor and stop speaking nonsense...especially about cuisine. It's a matter of personal taste. You call it relativism, I call it freedom to choose. Who are you to impose your personal food tastes on everyone else? Who died and left you in charge of what we should eat? Fuck off.

[Beirut]

Baldrich, have you lived somewhere else abroad?

Have you been living in a bubble in Spain?

Spain reads more than the US.

Noone looks at american fashion, american style of clothing is rather the subject of mockery abroad (with a couple of exceptions). And recently its the american brands who are trending towards European style. And then you say "its the same thing as the US clothes but a different cut. are you serious? so you think the US invented pants, shirts, etc... and that others are copying them?

But do you realise that even if the US was the origin of those clothes, you saying "You wear American CLOTHING BRANDS. MAKE YOUR OWN. If you guys are so talented as you claim to be, why don't you make your own stuff?" is something id expect someone who has never been outside of his village to say.

Then you call them hypocrite if they criticize american culture but eat at Mcdonalds, yet you criticize theirs and ummmm, live there????? good luck debating who would be the biggest hypocrite there.

Its so wrong that im not even sure if youre trolling and trying to instigate things.

Let me give you a hint, from someone from a country who has many troubles, and who has met many foreigners who come here and read a few articles and books and want to "debate" things.
Noone cares.
And its not because theyre lazy, its because ever since theyre 14, theyve debated everything there is to debate, and it gets old at 18. You have an inclination towards "Debating", good for you, but have some social calibration as well.
Your limited insight and attitude and false belief that you have superior or even valuable knowledge are probably very off putting to anyone you ever wished to debate anything with.


If you are not trolling, then you have some serious social calibration to work on.

[pater familias]

(08-12-2016 03:26 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 03:19 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 03:08 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 02:47 PM)pater familias Wrote:  

OK fellas. This thread is just an opportunity for a butthurt expat to yell us his miseries.

Baldrich, get a counselor to explain him your shit. RooshV forum is for alphas.

It is not a chauvinist thing, it is a WORLD RECOGNITION that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best. The entire planet comes to Catalonia/Basque country/Southern France for THEIR OWN gastronomy.

Go back to the US, bro, we don’t need you.

Pater I think it's time you put the chorizo down and take a breather. This is getting ridiculous.

People are taking this way too personally.

The guy has valid criticisms of the place. Spain has many faults, that is clear to anyone who has spent time there. As does any place. They don't all stem from a "failure to adapt". Some things just aren't great.

There is no "world recognition that Catalan/basque/French cuisine food is the best". Even if there was some sort of authority on the matter, which there isn't, who gives a shit? You like it, another guy doesn't.

This guy does not have valid criticisms. This guy failed to integrate into Spain despite his background and comes here to rant until the point of insult ( I also have Spanish ancestry)

Dude, I have lived abroad for 8 years, 4 different countries. As a SELF-INVITED guest in a new country the thing to do is:

Discover the things that are better.
Discover the things that are worse.
Discover the things that are different.

EVALUATE:
better + good different > worse STAY.
ELSE. Leave.

Roosh recently recorded a video about this. A man can only stay in a new country once: he builds a family there, he builds a meaningful business there or he participates in the public life of the country. This person did not do it. 10 years later, he is back. Roosh dixit.

And yes, there is World recognition you like it or not. Relativism like yours is what is flushing the US down the toilet.

If you think criticizing and pointing out deficiencies in a place is "insulting", you have other issues you need to deal with. I KNOW you are Spanish...definitely and you've proven my point well. You can't take criticism, but you sure love to hand it out and expect nobody to call you out on it. What do you know about my "integration" here? I speak the language NATIVE LEVEL...NO ACCENT, and Catalan. I pay my taxes, I have a history here. You are in no position to tell me if I'm integrated or not. Now, if by integrated you mean pigheaded, then no, I'm not integrated and neither are many other Spaniards (thankfully).

As I have said, I DO have a business here. So? That still doesn't cancel out the negative aspects.

I have also participated in the "public life" - except that in Spain there is really not that much to choose from when it comes to civic society...because there is NO tradition of civic society after 40 years of fascist dictatorship and mediocre third-rate pseudo-democracy known by thinking Spaniards as "partidocracia" (rule by parties). So you see, I have done my homework. You clearly don't know what you're talking about or simply cannot express yourself well enough to make a good point.

Did I say EVERYTHING was bad in Spain?

It seems I have committed blasphemy by saying Spain is not perfect and not a place for ambitious souls. If that hurts your ego, too bad. I couldn't give a shit.

"There is not much to choose when it comes to civic society"? Could you please extend this? Which "homework" have you done? Which city have you lived in?

[Baldrich]

(08-12-2016 02:36 PM)Vronski Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 02:27 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

On to the point: Zara is not really "Spanish" clothes though. All the models are basically same stuff you would find in the US with perhaps a slightly different cut.

Zara is admittedly a "follower", as all the cheap brands. But they follow the Italian and French designer trends, not the US trends (there is no such thing as a "US trend" anyway when it comes to fashion -except maybe for Jim Bob from the trailer park of Alabama and Tyrone from some urban ghetto).

But anyway, as I said, it's the world's largest retailer with some € 12.000 billion revenue/year. And it's a Spanish brand. Sorry but your "You wear American CLOTHING BRANDS, MAKE YOUR OWN" is just nonsense.

They wear American NIKE SHOES EVERYWHERE....ABERCROMBIE & Fitch, ...should I go on? Where are all the Spanish "geniuses" creating similar or even, alternative brands?

US may have Tyrones in an Alabama ghetto, but Spain also has its fair share of Gypsy Jonathans in many ghettos. Just travel around the country:

https://ongcaps.wordpress.com/2013/05/01...-chabolas/

That's in MADRID. Children living in Shantytowns.

[Rocha]

Do you know Jante Law? Much harder to be an ambitious soul in your beloved northern europe.

[Vronski]

(08-12-2016 03:34 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

NIKE SHOES EVERYWHERE....ABERCROMBIE,

As a side note, no need to write in capital letters to make a point

[Lime]

(08-12-2016 03:36 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Do you know Jante Law? Much harder to be an ambitious soul in your beloved northern europe.

Northern Europe =/= Nordics.

Jante's Law is in Scandinavia only.

He throws together UK and Holland in Northern Europe as well (just how Spanish people do), but those countries don't have Jante Law.

[Brosemite]

(08-12-2016 03:34 PM)Baldrich Wrote:  

They wear American NIKE SHOES EVERYWHERE....ABERCROMBIE & Fitch, ...should I go on? Where are all the Spanish "geniuses" creating similar or even, alternative brands?

A lot of European (& South American) tourists go to places like Miami & NYC buying up things like Abercrombie because they somehow get the notion it's forward fashion in the US. Most don't really get it's overpriced nonsense that's mocked by many Americans though...

[Baldrich]

Beirut Wrote:

Baldrich, have you lived somewhere else abroad?

Yes, I have.

Beirut Wrote:

Spain reads more than the US.

Show me the statistics. You will hardly find anybody reading a book here. Are you serious? EVEN THE SPANISH PRESS says Spain has a low percentage of readers:

http://vozpopuli.com/ocio-y-cultura/8569...nas-al-bar

TWO OUT OF EVERY THREE Spaniards NEVER read a book. That's so plain obvious it doesn't need mentioning.

Beirut Wrote:

Noone looks at american fashion, american style of clothing is rather the subject of mockery abroad (with a couple of exceptions). And recently its the american brands who are trending towards European style. And then you say "its the same thing as the US clothes but a different cut. are you serious? so you think the US invented pants, shirts, etc... and that others are copying them?

You sure love those Nikes, and Abercrombie (more popular now in Spain than in the US, lol)...

I don't understand your point about make your own stuff. What I have said is pretty clear. If people mock American styles or whatever, why don't they make their own brands? Where is the Spanish equivalent of NIKE? And even if it existed, Spanish still would wear the American brands.

Your point about Mcdonald's makes no sense. If people hate American food so much, why are the Mcdonalds filled to the brim with SPANISH customers?

You have admitted exactly what I have been denouncing:

NOBODY CARES. You nailed it. That seems to be a common trend in Southern Europe and the Middle East. The Spanish inherited it probably from the Arabs.

"They've debated everything there is to debate"? Are you serious? There is ALWAYS something new to debate. Sounds like you need to get out more and do some more reading.

And no, the only people who seem to be put off by my words tend to be those with an inferiority complex. I get along very well with most people. Do you think I'd be in business for so long if I didn't get along well with people and knew about what I was discussing? It would be impossible to run anything that way.

I may need some work on social calibration...but again, you are obsessing over the personal rather than addressing my points.

[Baldrich]

(08-12-2016 03:41 PM)Lime Wrote:  

(08-12-2016 03:36 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Do you know Jante Law? Much harder to be an ambitious soul in your beloved northern europe.

Northern Europe =/= Nordics.

Jante's Law is in Scandinavia only.

He throws together UK and Holland in Northern Europe as well (just how Spanish people do), but those countries don't have Jante Law.

North to Spain is what I mean. I didn't say Holland or the UK were Nordic countries.