[Drazen]

I almost always get pre-sale tickets at Hakkasan or Wet Republic and enter pretty early (Hakkasan before 11, West republic before 1230pm). The "guest list" line at Hakkasan can be a 1-2 hour wait, its usually a bunch of girls who get on the promoters list with the random dude interspersed in there. Even at Wet Republic on a Summer weekend you have at least a 20-30 minute late if you go early + have presale tickets.

The scam with room service is that they automatically add a service charge and then you don't see it so you add an extra tip on it. I used to get room service all the time at MGM when I'd go with my high rollin' fam (it was all comped), used to easily drop 60-70 bucks on breakfast for myself (steak and eggs, buffalo wings and OJ or Iced Tea. I love ordering room service even if I am paying for it if its a party weekend and I'm resting up, just to not have to go downstairs and wait for my food to get cooked, etc.

[DigitalNomad]

@drazen Got some girl chick strips and cheesecake the other night and it was $65 haha. Brutal.

[Beirut]

Just read a TR from another forum from a guy who dropped thousands on his Vegas vacation and didnt even get laid. Weird thing is he seems totally oblivious that he was played.

Not sure if i can post the link but its interesting to read and see how money without game gets you nowhere sometimes.

Same guy with more game could have banged 3 a day.

[Menace]

Every time I read about vegas it makes me not want to go to vegas.

[C-Note]

There's a wine store in one of the terminals in the Vegas airport that actually has reasonable prices. I suggest grabbing a couple of bottles from there before you head down to baggage claim so you won't feel any pressure to order alcohol from room service or break open the room mini-bar. You probably should grab some water bottles also because some of the hotels on the strip will charge you $6 for the bottled water in your room. I wonder if the Vegas airport put in a small grocery store whether arriving passengers would patronize it for the same reason- to avoid the outrageous room service fees?

[Darkwing Buck]

(05-02-2017 05:18 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

Just read a TR from another forum from a guy who dropped thousands on his Vegas vacation and didnt even get laid. Weird thing is he seems totally oblivious that he was played.

Not sure if i can post the link but its interesting to read and see how money without game gets you nowhere sometimes.

Same guy with more game could have banged 3 a day.

Yeah first time I went to Vegas for a weekend I literally went with $500 and stayed in a single room with 2 beds and 3 other dudes. I banged 2 chicks and went home with $200 left unspent all things said and done. And that's including spending money to cut the line at XS and taking a limo to the hotel with my chick to avoid waiting for a taxi.

When I was at XS I got invited into one of those bottle service rooms by security cuz one of the guys with bottle service saw me pimpin and asked if I could help him and bring some girls in and we could all drink. I went out for 10 minutes, got myself a brunette, grabbed her blonde friend, take em inside the little tent room, and we're both mackin on each chick. It was like clockwork.

He fucked his up though after we got to the taxi lines but I did my job and took her to my room.

The idea of guys spending thousands of dollars to get laid is just silly to me. I mean if you're gonna spend the money anyway that's one thing but droppin Gs for the sole purpose of getting laid and not being able to is really weak.

[Naughty By Nature]

Just spent the weekend in Vegas with my friend. Definitely a very good city for game. Slaughters Los Mangeles in every which way (quantity, quality, ratios, logistics, closing time, amount of things going on, etc).

However, there is one issue with Vegas, and this issue is why I have it behind NYC and Chicago, in terms of game...prostitution whores.

They are everywhere. I knew there would be a decent amount based on what I've been told and the one short night we were there two weeks ago but Vegas is LITTERED with prostitutes.

You'd think this wouldn't be an issue because you can find out she's a prosti within a minute or two, and you generally can, but my wing got lied to and duped for a solid 3 1/2 hours before she came clean. Ruined his whole night.

Why does this major problem not get mentioned on the forums?

My theory is most guys on the forums fall under one of two categories: A) they either do not approach at all, so they're entirely unaware, or B) they're paying these cum dumpsters for sex and are not mentioning it due to fear of embarrassment.

Both are equally sad.

That being said, Vegas is definitely a city worth checking out. The combination of excellent logistics and no closing time is JUICY!

[Drazen]

There has been discussions in the past on how to spot the pros in Vegas. Generally, if she's by herself or initiates a cold approach, there's a good chance she's a hooker.

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[Drazen]

(05-15-2017 04:41 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

Just spent the weekend in Vegas with my friend. Definitely a very good city for game. Slaughters Los Mangeles in every which way (quantity, quality, ratios, logistics, closing time, amount of things going on, etc).

However, there is one issue with Vegas, and this issue is why I have it behind NYC and Chicago, in terms of game...prostitution whores.

They are everywhere. I knew there would be a decent amount based on what I've been told and the one short night we were there two weeks ago but Vegas is LITTERED with prostitutes.

You'd think this wouldn't be an issue because you can find out she's a prosti within a minute or two, and you generally can, but my wing got lied to and duped for a solid 3 1/2 hours before she came clean. Ruined his whole night.

Why does this major problem not get mentioned on the forums?

My theory is most guys on the forums fall under one of two categories: A) they either do not approach at all, so they're entirely unaware, or B) they're paying these cum dumpsters for sex and are not mentioning it due to fear of embarrassment.

Both are equally sad.

That being said, Vegas is definitely a city worth checking out. The combination of excellent logistics and no closing time is JUICY!

Where did you go? I'm going back for the first time in a while and wondering what the best plan of attack is. Last time I was there, I was fed up with the heavy EDM/DJ scene as I found it distracted girls a little too much.

I would talk to some girls and then they had in the back of their mind that they HAD to catch Calvin Harris going on at 1am.

[Drazen]

What's the best plan of attack running solo in Vegas?

I'm going a night early before a bachelor party next month. I'm thinking of joining a "club crawl" where I'll go to different venues. I figure I'll save on drinks (2 for 1 on the first place), be pre-selected in a group and have easy access to 3 or 4 different venues where I can approach, burn the place down and move on or ditch the crawl if anything sticks.

The other option is to hit up lounges that are more laid back suited up, listen to some live music and go that route.

Which sounds better?

[DigitalNomad]

The first time I went to Vegas solo I did the crawl route. It's decent, definitely some options but you also get herded like cattle which isn't ideal. The 2nd time I went on the app for Couchsurfing Hangouts and met some guys to wing with. It ended up being one of the best weekends of my life. Either one works.

[Naughty By Nature]

(05-15-2017 05:56 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

(05-15-2017 04:41 PM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

Just spent the weekend in Vegas with my friend. Definitely a very good city for game. Slaughters Los Mangeles in every which way (quantity, quality, ratios, logistics, closing time, amount of things going on, etc).

However, there is one issue with Vegas, and this issue is why I have it behind NYC and Chicago, in terms of game...prostitution whores.

They are everywhere. I knew there would be a decent amount based on what I've been told and the one short night we were there two weeks ago but Vegas is LITTERED with prostitutes.

You'd think this wouldn't be an issue because you can find out she's a prosti within a minute or two, and you generally can, but my wing got lied to and duped for a solid 3 1/2 hours before she came clean. Ruined his whole night.

Why does this major problem not get mentioned on the forums?

My theory is most guys on the forums fall under one of two categories: A) they either do not approach at all, so they're entirely unaware, or B) they're paying these cum dumpsters for sex and are not mentioning it due to fear of embarrassment.

Both are equally sad.

That being said, Vegas is definitely a city worth checking out. The combination of excellent logistics and no closing time is JUICY!

Where did you go? I'm going back for the first time in a while and wondering what the best plan of attack is. Last time I was there, I was fed up with the heavy EDM/DJ scene as I found it distracted girls a little too much.

I would talk to some girls and then they had in the back of their mind that they HAD to catch Calvin Harris going on at 1am.

You're right about the solo thing. You almost can't approach girls who are alone out there. Looking back, I think every prosti we approached was not with anyone.

We just did casino game at The Crom, The Caes, and The Cos (not sure why I love shortening the names). We're gonna try that $30 club next time and just camp out there for night game (XS, I think it is?). Some club in Encore was $175 for guys and $125 for shorties. Krap outta here!

[Drazen]

Not only that, prostitutes are always on the casino floor or in the free lounges "waiting for someone". As you were mainly on the casino floor, its only natural you'd run into a lot of them.

[Brosemite]

(05-15-2017 07:57 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

What's the best plan of attack running solo in Vegas?

I remember going for fun with family in the Summer...and it didn't work out very well for me.

Things actually changed when I went to Vegas for work.

When going out at nights solo in the Fall which I deem more favorable, I'd put on nice jeans, dress shirt, and a blazer walking around the casinos asking random girls what was going on that night. Of course I'd do it as the humble yet charming oblivious guy who had been working all day yet was curious about the night time festivities. Girls would be curious about my situation as to "why" I was rolling solo too. At times, I'd attract the prostitute types but just used them as warmups for non-pros later on.

Long story short, one strategy for rolling solo in Vegas is to pretend to be there for some convention (make shit up) and is now interested in seeing what's up at night. Regarding the Autumn season, girls seem to be more down in the evenings as bitch shields are lower; weather is also better too.

During the summers, you have big pool parties so it reduces the number of people who go out at nights. Attitudes & cliques are much worse.

I had the advantage of being in Vegas for work so I had a rental car to do my obligatory shit during the day and then would start the night sharp at night. If I stayed in Vegas partying non-stop for a few days straight, my game would oddly be off due to burnout.

I think rolling solo & pretending to be there for work gives you more credibility than being another guy in a bro pack partying in Vegas...with that being said...

(05-15-2017 07:57 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

The other option is to hit up lounges that are more laid back suited up, listen to some live music and go that route.

Which sounds better?

Walking in the Cosmo, Wynn/Encore, playing at machines..going to XS, laidback lounges, etc alone..at least I feel more comfortable in that scenario opposed to doing pub crawls with other thirsty dudes competing for the gals in the immediate built in circles...

[booshala]

(05-15-2017 07:57 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

What's the best plan of attack running solo in Vegas?

I'm going a night early before a bachelor party next month. I'm thinking of joining a "club crawl" where I'll go to different venues. I figure I'll save on drinks (2 for 1 on the first place), be pre-selected in a group and have easy access to 3 or 4 different venues where I can approach, burn the place down and move on or ditch the crawl if anything sticks.

The other option is to hit up lounges that are more laid back suited up, listen to some live music and go that route.

Which sounds better?

You meet someone at a lounge on the strip or hotel bar by herself and it's exponentially more likely you come across a working girl. Obviously, this is a different story once you go downtown or off-strip.

Could try jackal game. You always see guys trying to pull hail mary's at the end of the night when they're turning on the lights and people are sweaty and drunk, but I've experienced the most success at XS right around 1:30am when girls start coming out of the club for one reason or another. Take a nice nap, suit up and look fresh and rested talking to girls while everyone else looks like they just spent an hour in a sweatbox.

Last few times I just posted up at the nearest blackjack table (6:5 ugh) and alternated between flat betting the minimum and chatting up girls who were walking by, sometimes grabbing them while asking, "hey, should I hit or stay?" You can always say that you got bored inside XS and came out to gamble a little.

Has worked pretty well for some bangs, although I've been cockblocked by a dealer once who was pissed I kept stepping away from the table. I've since learned to make some dealer bets early on to show we're on the same side. Caveat: this does not seem to work at all with Asian girls (they immediately go into stranger danger mode) but Latinas and white chicks seemed to be very receptive.

[Drazen]

When I go to the lounges/bars, I usually run into girls who do not frequent Vegas as much, which is usually a good thing as the frequent visitors are a little harder to pull if you aren't in a group or have a table. The thing is there are so many patterns of randomness in Vegas, consistency is hard to gauge.

I've done the "hang outside the club" and try to get girls as they are leaving with my friends, but we usually chat with a girl or group and then nothing really sticks.

I've had the best luck at the Bellagio, Wynn, Ceasars and Palazzo. For some reason, I don't really click with the demographic at the Cosmo. I've never pulled from there, but maybe thats because my logistics are usually at either Palazzo or Treasure Island so I'm more comfortable. Maybe I look too corporate and not "cool" enough. Who knows. I've never pulled at the Bond Bar. Never at Marquee either or any of the bars or lounges there.

I think I may do a hybrid of it all. I'll sign up for a bus crawl but have that primarily be a way to get cheaper drinks (2 for 1 at the first bar) and as transportation from different venues I can hit up. I'll walk in the club on the tours and if nothing is happening, I will go to the adjoining lounge. 4 venues, one hour each, if nothing is happening, I'll try the jackal game outside a club (although at XS I think they have people making you move through the hallway). If there is a girl on the bus I click with, then so be it. If not, screw it its a big Taxi. Its only one night, not the end of the world.

[Brosemite]

I haven't been to Vegas much..what..total of 4 times..with 3 of those coming as an adult.

Some more observations based on what you guys are saying above ^^^

- Only been to Bellagio for the buffet with family. Great place.

- One of my co-workers at a trade show insisted I go to the Cosmo because it was apparently for "cool young people" while he referred to Wynn/Encore as "stiff old ppl places." I found myself to be a better fit at Wynn/Encore/Palazzo/Venetian...coincidence.

- A funny pull occurred at Lavo on a dead Wednesday night when I initiated with two Montana/North Dakota chicks. My opening line was a dumb question about the stage dancer's funny moves...in a naive yet oblivious manner. Found out both were married & the one I hooked up with kept complaining about her husband's failed music career (I shit you not). One too many drinks later...

- My only time at XS started off with a long ass wait in line. Place was packed as I started off near the front stage only to be blown off by two Cali chicks who ended up being with this one dude. Some Euro chick apparently checked me hard out though I was still stiff & didn't know how to react yet. It was bad planning from the get go as my logistics were shit not to mention I didn't even have my own room outside of strip...(family member came last minute to help out with a trade show ugh).

Notable interactions that night included kissing from a younger Russian gal whom I couldn't close. A Kansas white chick who wanted to go back to my room though I couldn't for reasons mentioned above...and then a hot Singaporean chick I couldn't take back again..its funny how she was so enamored with the fact that I was an ABC (American Born Chinese)..and that's different because most Asian girls in Vegas are from the cliquey So Cal packs that are hard to break up (Ur dead on Booshala).

Man..it's time for me to visit Vegas again..(in October...and preferably solo)

[Drazen]

(05-16-2017 11:23 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

- A funny pull occurred at Lavo on a dead Wednesday night when I initiated with two Montana/North Dakota chicks. My opening line was a dumb question about the stage dancer's funny moves...in a naive yet oblivious manner. Found out both were married & the one I hooked up with kept complaining about her husband's failed music career (I shit you not). One too many drinks later...

Wow. Something almost exactly similar happened to me at Lavo (at the Bar on a Sunday night) with two girls like that, both were married and out of state like Ohio or Iowa and I hooked up with one of them as well who was complaining about their husband. That happened to me a lot about 4-5 years ago I would meet married women just looking to let off steam or there for a weekend either for work or to celebrate something and I'd chat them at the bars, usually in groups of 2 from out of state.

Sometimes more, but a lot of their friends would look the other way.

[booshala]

(05-16-2017 09:51 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

When I go to the lounges/bars, I usually run into girls who do not frequent Vegas as much, which is usually a good thing as the frequent visitors are a little harder to pull if you aren't in a group or have a table. The thing is there are so many patterns of randomness in Vegas, consistency is hard to gauge.

I've done the "hang outside the club" and try to get girls as they are leaving with my friends, but we usually chat with a girl or group and then nothing really sticks.

I've had the best luck at the Bellagio, Wynn, Ceasars and Palazzo. For some reason, I don't really click with the demographic at the Cosmo. I've never pulled from there, but maybe thats because my logistics are usually at either Palazzo or Treasure Island so I'm more comfortable. Maybe I look too corporate and not "cool" enough. Who knows. I've never pulled at the Bond Bar. Never at Marquee either or any of the bars or lounges there.

I think I may do a hybrid of it all. I'll sign up for a bus crawl but have that primarily be a way to get cheaper drinks (2 for 1 at the first bar) and as transportation from different venues I can hit up. I'll walk in the club on the tours and if nothing is happening, I will go to the adjoining lounge. 4 venues, one hour each, if nothing is happening, I'll try the jackal game outside a club (although at XS I think they have people making you move through the hallway). If there is a girl on the bus I click with, then so be it. If not, screw it its a big Taxi. Its only one night, not the end of the world.

Yeah, the goon squad makes you move but that doesn't apply if you're a gaming customer.

Good luck, man. Maybe try sidling up to the bar at Herbs & Rye? They have a great cocktail menu, 50% off all steaks happy hour + happy hour after midnight. Plus, I saw a lot of good talent there, probably because the demographic runs heavy with service industry types. Only been once and never pulled but I really enjoyed the atmosphere.

[booshala]

(05-16-2017 11:23 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

and then a hot Singaporean chick I couldn't take back again..its funny how she was so enamored with the fact that I was an ABC (American Born Chinese)..and that's different because most Asian girls in Vegas are from the cliquey So Cal packs that are hard to break up (Ur dead on Booshala).

Man..it's time for me to visit Vegas again..(in October...and preferably solo)

Sure you have very similar groups of Asians in Texas as well... most of these girls are either from the San Gabriel Valley or North OC cities like Westminster or Garden Grove. Strangely, I've found it's the groups of Chinese and Vietnamese girls that are the hardest to break through whereas I've noticed that Korean girls tend to be a bit more relaxed. This is the opposite of my interactions on a 1:1 basis.

Tell tale sign that you're gonna get cock blocked? 9 times out of 10 they'll all be wearing very similar body-con dresses but in alternating colors. See exhibit 1: https://www.yelp.com/user_photos?select=...T2ymMaoEGg

[Jetset]

(05-16-2017 11:23 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

- Only been to Bellagio for the buffet with family. Great place.

- One of my co-workers at a trade show insisted I go to the Cosmo because it was apparently for "cool young people" while he referred to Wynn/Encore as "stiff old ppl places." I found myself to be a better fit at Wynn/Encore/Palazzo/Venetian...coincidence.

I haven't tried, but from exploring the Venetian's casino floor, I'm pretty sure that if your game is bored housewives neglected by rich husbands, it's not a bad place to go cougar hunting.

[RDF]

(05-17-2017 12:04 AM)booshala Wrote:  

Tell tale sign that you're gonna get cock blocked? 9 times out of 10 they'll all be wearing very similar body-con dresses but in alternating colors. See exhibit 1: https://www.yelp.com/user_photos?select=...T2ymMaoEGg

You could not have found a more perfect photo example. My first few Vegas trips I tried to break into groups like that, and got shut down cold virtually every time. Everytime I or anybody in my friend group has pulled an Asian girl in Vegas, it's been from a small group of 3 or less.

I wonder who is actually fucking those girls... they often have a few Asian guys in the group (less than girls), but on the surface they look like orbiters or gay best friends. Are these girls seriously going to Vegas exclusively to attention whore and aren't fucking anybody? I usually try to avoid thinking this way but in this case I don't see an alternative explanation.

[Drazen]

(05-17-2017 10:39 AM)RDF Wrote:  

(05-17-2017 12:04 AM)booshala Wrote:  

Tell tale sign that you're gonna get cock blocked? 9 times out of 10 they'll all be wearing very similar body-con dresses but in alternating colors. See exhibit 1: https://www.yelp.com/user_photos?select=...T2ymMaoEGg

You could not have found a more perfect photo example. My first few Vegas trips I tried to break into groups like that, and got shut down cold virtually every time. Everytime I or anybody in my friend group has pulled an Asian girl in Vegas, it's been from a small group of 3 or less.

I wonder who is actually fucking those girls... they often have a few Asian guys in the group (less than girls), but on the surface they look like orbiters or gay best friends. Are these girls seriously going to Vegas exclusively to attention whore and aren't fucking anybody? I usually try to avoid thinking this way but in this case I don't see an alternative explanation.

They are bottle rats. You need a table with a group, the group invites them over and they drink your alcohol, that's just how it is. Its possible to pull one out but its rare as the girls cockblock alot, are there only to be seen at the table, or are there for the DJ. Its best to sell a venue change to "get something to eat" with a smaller group of two of the girls. Often times they are very fobby too which makes talking to them like pulling teeth.

[booshala]

^^ What Drazen said about these types of girls is true - the hot ones in the group usually scope out guys with tables and then after they have a drink they say "can I invite my friends over?" which turns into your entire bottle being drunk up in 15 minutes by the barbarian horde. I've seen my rich friends circumvent this by not caring so much about the tab and using these girls' greed against them by pouring drinks directly into their mouths getting them drunk quickly.

Who is fucking those girls? If they're FOBs, it's almost 100% that they're fucking some guy from their social/ethnic group back home. If they didn't come with their boyfriends, chances are they're just "letting loose" on whatever vapid occasion that those types of girls go to Vegas for - birthdays, EDC, girls weekend out, etc.

[Brosemite]

(05-17-2017 07:43 AM)Jetset Wrote:  

I haven't tried, but from exploring the Venetian's casino floor, I'm pretty sure that if your game is bored housewives neglected by rich husbands, it's not a bad place to go cougar hunting.

As a Vegas newbie several years back, I always digged Venetian & Palazzo cocktail waitresses. A combination of beauty, sluttiness, and perceived attainability. They always had great curves too.