Quote: (02-04-2014 05:33 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Quote: (02-04-2014 05:19 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Come on, this is nonsense.

I can barely read this thread for more than a few sentences at a time it's so cringeworthy but yet I'm here.

Edit: The more I think about it there's now way this is or real, it's almost impossible.

To be honest I've re-read the thread and am more in Menance and El Mech's camp here. OP is just so all over the place and now he wants a Midwest girl after spending time in Russia and surrounded by 8s and 9s - er, ok. And despite being fluent in the language he can't understand or generate any connections or figure out any of these girls. And he's seeing 'mostly 8+s' on the street (in Winter?). The girls are certainly prettier, thinner and more feminine than those in the Anglosphere but come on it's not like they are all 8+s (at least where I've been in Russia). Also, saying "Rusian girls don't dirty dance" (or dance sexually) sounds off - man every club I've been in some seem doing it. These girls aren't all princesses/saints and when they go out they like to have a good time.

I'm confused and like Merenguero am not sure what's up here, but something sure doesn't feel right.....lot of confusing/contradicting information coming from the OP.

Am I the only one who finds that the idea of practicing game with the intent of getting good at it, but not actually getting laid is downright absurd?

To use another gym analogy, it's like obsessively practicing your form for various lifts, but never putting any weight on the bar. What's the point? You're not accomplishing anything. You're shadow boxing when you should be in the ring sparring.

Haha. I'm glad El Mech finally said it. I've found Wayout's thread(s) unbelievable from the start but at least they are entertaining, so I'm not complaining. But I suspect this is just a very elaborate trolling of the forum.

OK I'm ready for another Wayout post!

el mech, this should tide you over:

Guys I went to a bar and ordered milk...they gave me funny look. There were two girls and one of them pushed her breasts against me but it was crowded and it was hard to breathe so I asked her to move away. She gave me funny look. Did I do something wrong? I was only asthmatic when I was kid but now I still carry psychological burden. Then her friend put her hand in my pocket and said "я тебя хочу", which means i want you. I thought she wanted me to take her to market so I said it's closed now and tried to arrange day 2 but she freaked out and spilled drink on my pants!! So angry with her. I left bar and sat near some people and a beautiful brunnete probably an 7.5 or 8. We were taking and she put hand on my thigh...I freaked out because I have been reading about gypsies and thought her features were gypsy like and she was trying to steal my money so I got up and left the bar...I think she wrote number down on my hand. I will text her tomorrow and we will go for date in local factory that makes tractors where I will isolate and go for kiss. Is this good plan?

I enjoy this thread because the OP is keeping it real, he is obviously a novice or dealing with personal issues. I know first hand that cocky/funny does not work outside North America, I have had girls that were good to go and the moment I said something sarcastic it was like the air was let of the balloon.
Life is a hard lesson we all have to learn at some point.

Quote: (02-05-2014 06:08 AM)j r Wrote:  

Am I the only one who finds that the idea of practicing game with the intent of getting good at it, but not actually getting laid is downright absurd?

To use another gym analogy, it's like obsessively practicing your form for various lifts, but never putting any weight on the bar. What's the point? You're not accomplishing anything. You're shadow boxing when you should be in the ring sparring.

Shadow boxing is still better than no boxing at all

Quote: (02-05-2014 05:06 PM)Menace Wrote:  

el mech, this should tide you over:

Guys I went to a bar and ordered milk...they gave me funny look. There were two girls and one of them pushed her breasts against me but it was crowded and it was hard to breathe so I asked her to move away. She gave me funny look. Did I do something wrong? I was only asthmatic when I was kid but now I still carry psychological burden. Then her friend put her hand in my pocket and said "я тебя хочу", which means i want you. I thought she wanted me to take her to market so I said it's closed now and tried to arrange day 2 but she freaked out and spilled drink on my pants!! So angry with her. I left bar and sat near some people and a beautiful brunnete probably an 7.5 or 8. We were taking and she put hand on my thigh...I freaked out because I have been reading about gypsies and thought her features were gypsy like and she was trying to steal my money so I got up and left the bar...I think she wrote number down on my hand. I will text her tomorrow and we will go for date in local factory that makes tractors where I will isolate and go for kiss. Is this good plan?

Thanks for the laugh - i love the local factory that makes tractors idea! Very Russian! ))
Funny you wrote this little story ...last night this girl texted me around midnight to come over so she can give me a hug.We had a conversation earlier about my state of mind,maybe she felt sorry for me - I don't know.I replied with " it's a little late". And you know why? She has to get up at 6 am to go to work - so I was only considerate. I know some of you would run through the snow at -25F for a chance to bang! That isso desperate though...I used to be like that.

Quote: (02-05-2014 07:32 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I enjoy this thread because the OP is keeping it real, he is obviously a novice or dealing with personal issues. I know first hand that cocky/funny does not work outside North America, I have had girls that were good to go and the moment I said something sarcastic it was like the air was let of the balloon.
Life is a hard lesson we all have to learn at some point.

I am not novice - quite the opposite! I started gaming around 2002 when Mystery was the Guru and Fast seduction was THE discussion board. At one point I became pretty good. But with age,my preference in women hasn't changed. I still like 18-23 y.o...Perhaps that is an indication of my own immaturity and issues.
I met maybe 45-50 people who were PUA and such. Most of them had very obvious issues,mostly character flaws and light mental disorders like depression. I don't deny - I have a problem with anxiety and antisocial behavior. Moving to a completely different environment used to help a lot! That's why I am here. I don't want to be afraid anymore to talk to women I don't know(yet).

Quote: (02-07-2014 05:18 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

I know some of you would run through the snow at -25F for a chance to bang! That is so desperate though...I used to be like that.

Teach us Wayout!

I went to the club the other day and chick tried to buy me a drink.I think she trying to spike it and poisening me so I said NO! When I hang with Mystery Man in 2002 he said this would be a good neg so it's fine.i love the advice...you guys give cause it's so good but I only fuck 9+. The oddity is I used to be phenomal with game and still am! But I turn down obvious signs of attraction.

At the risk of a warning I'm shocked this OP is still here. Troll central.

Quote: (02-07-2014 05:18 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

Quote: (02-05-2014 05:06 PM)Menace Wrote:  

el mech, this should tide you over:

Guys I went to a bar and ordered milk...they gave me funny look. There were two girls and one of them pushed her breasts against me but it was crowded and it was hard to breathe so I asked her to move away. She gave me funny look. Did I do something wrong? I was only asthmatic when I was kid but now I still carry psychological burden. Then her friend put her hand in my pocket and said "я тебя хочу", which means i want you. I thought she wanted me to take her to market so I said it's closed now and tried to arrange day 2 but she freaked out and spilled drink on my pants!! So angry with her. I left bar and sat near some people and a beautiful brunnete probably an 7.5 or 8. We were taking and she put hand on my thigh...I freaked out because I have been reading about gypsies and thought her features were gypsy like and she was trying to steal my money so I got up and left the bar...I think she wrote number down on my hand. I will text her tomorrow and we will go for date in local factory that makes tractors where I will isolate and go for kiss. Is this good plan?

Thanks for the laugh - i love the local factory that makes tractors idea! Very Russian! ))
Funny you wrote this little story ...last night this girl texted me around midnight to come over so she can give me a hug.We had a conversation earlier about my state of mind,maybe she felt sorry for me - I don't know.I replied with " it's a little late". And you know why? She has to get up at 6 am to go to work - so I was only considerate. I know some of you would run through the snow at -25F for a chance to bang! That isso desperate though...I used to be like that.

If you are not trolling, then you probably are not looking to get laid. I mean, you may be doing so consciously, but subconsciously, there is something that gets in the way and stops you from getting laid even when you have almost a 100% chance, like when a girl asks you to come over. I think I had this problem a few years back, maybe a light version of it, when I was young and stupid, but come on, you're in mid-late 30s, right? If you are not making this stuff up, I don't know what to say to you. Drink vodka, do drugs or whatever to get this shit out of your head.

I'd say this guy is running anti-Game and doing everything possible to cock-block himself.

This thread illustrates the Achilles heel of RVF: guys who attempt to game in Russia or EE are given tremendous leeway. There is endless charity for them. Even rep points! What about that other dude, Striker or something like that? Same deal.

Quote: (02-07-2014 11:24 AM)Menace Wrote:  

This thread illustrates the Achilles heel of RVF: guys who attempt to game in Russia or EE are given tremendous leeway. There is endless charity for them. Even rep points! What about that other dude, Striker or something like that? Same deal.

One of the many things I don't understand about all this is why he chose to go to Miami, London, and Moscow, three notoriously difficult cities (especially the first two) if he is struggling as much as he is. If I were in his situation, I would probably make a beeline for places like Peru, the Philippines, and Thailand.

Well allegedly he doesn't even want to get laid, just approach girls. Then, why travel anywhere if you just want to do that. You will not get better at approaching by traveling in and of itself; I know because I have done it and experienced it. I don't want to ruin el mech's entertainment, so I won't say more.

Quote: (02-07-2014 11:54 AM)Menace Wrote:  

Well allegedly he doesn't even want to get laid, just approach girls. Then, why travel anywhere if you just want to do that. You will not get better at approaching by traveling in and of itself; I know because I have done it and experienced it. I don't want to ruin el mech's entertainment, so I won't say more.

Actually...he isn't actually approaching it seems.
As he admitted ,I pretty much analyzed his dilemma. He doesn't like game or Russian women so he makes excuses. He likes mid western feminists and he is a beta feminist himself.So why did he travel to the one region where feminist betas are eaten alive?

That being said, he is honestly reporting his travels so there is no reason to think hes a troll or NOT to give charity. There are plenty of guys on here who couldn't get laid in a whore house..BUT they are NOT posting in here and are reading the newbie thread.

That being said OP does fit the classic example of insane.... doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Gentlemen, I don't really mind his postings. He is posting on two threads - this one and his other one where he started talking about taking a class ( I could be wrong - maybe he has littered RVF with posts). It isn't like he is trolling on other threads. Basically, he is blogging. Smart enough to know that here at least some will read his blog vs. one of millions of blogs on the internet. If anything it becomes a poster child of what not to do.

I agree - he needs to change to get different results.

Quote: (02-07-2014 05:34 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

I am not novice - quite the opposite! I started gaming around 2002 when Mystery was the Guru and Fast seduction was THE discussion board. At one point I became pretty good. But with age,my preference in women hasn't changed. I still like 18-23 y.o...Perhaps that is an indication of my own immaturity and issues.
I met maybe 45-50 people who were PUA and such. Most of them had very obvious issues,mostly character flaws and light mental disorders like depression. I don't deny - I have a problem with anxiety and antisocial behavior. Moving to a completely different environment used to help a lot! That's why I am here. I don't want to be afraid anymore to talk to women I don't know(yet).

You can be in the game a long time and still be a novice. Based on what I read in your other posts, most of your girls were college whales or easy lays in Cuba and SE Asia - places where there's either implied prostitution or extreme "white god factor." Russia isn't a sex tourist mecca any more. You need a pretty good level of game to get 9s.

Also, you can't count it as a "passed" notch unless she drinks champagne at your place. If at that stage you decide she's a whore and you would rather pass, then in my book it's still a notch. Without the champagne, you haven't achieved anything.

I got my pills from an online store and feeling much better mentally. L-theanine is awesome!I am also experimenting with several other nootropics developed in Russia and widely available here. Everything is sold here without RX. It’s like Mexico here or something..lol. Picamilon and Semax seem to dominate nootropics message boards – so I tried them last month. Picamilon made me even more depressed. Semax felt awesome – like a purest mild adderall minus any negative effects of adderall. Clarity, energy and focus!

I got myself a little girlfriend situation here. And yes I finally got laid! Met her online – not what I wanted- but never the less! She is a US 7 and taller than me by 2 inches. Most Russian women wear hills, even in the winter time ,so you do the math what we look like together She is 17 years younger than me as well but I would say we are on the same maturity level. Very nice, educated girl who has a good job and her own place (with a roommate).. I think I’ll stick around with her.
Interestingly enough, same week I met my current gf…I had two other girls expressing interest in me. One is a 9 and the other is a 8+. But hey…better having one bird in hand?.. Right now we are just flirting heavily and both invited me to do something with them this weekend. But I already made plans with the gf. My goal is not to play out this relationship like I always did in the past – becoming needy and controlling.

What amazes me is foreign guys from poor countries coming to Russia and getting married to 9s! I met a guy from Ghana who is getting married here. He is nothing special of course – no money or prospects to speak of. Came here as a student and boom, met all the white ladies he ever dreamt of! Another one I met today was from Ecuador – also nothing special, short, fat, poor …with a 9! Already married to her. They met working on a cruise ship – so that tells you right away about his level of income. Anyone who is obviously foreign is noticed here by girls. Kind of a non-white God effect if you will! Met this African Brazilian guy - also getting attention like crazy! Cute blond girls sitting on his lap at dancing socials. Yes I am still hitting up salsa socials like it’s my job! Who else, some white guy from Toronto showed up – not sure what his story was- but he was more or less like me, barely noticed. He attempted to pick up some girls but it was obvious what he was doing ,I think he got some numbers though. Crazy how it all works- when a black guy is going around the room hitting on every girl – they see it as normal! When a white guy does – all of the sudden he is a player!? Anyway- if you are non white- come to a second tier Russian city. Oh and don’t bother to learn any Russian – even better!

I strongly doubt that you are really in russia, your last post is a complete non sense.

Wayout any pics? You can cover whatever you don't feel comfortable showing.

Just wanna see what girls are looking like in this city you are in.

Congrats.....
How tall is she?

Quote: (02-19-2014 03:43 PM)Wayout Wrote:  

I got my pills from an online store and feeling much better mentally. L-theanine is awesome!I am also experimenting with several other nootropics developed in Russia and widely available here. Everything is sold here without RX. It’s like Mexico here or something..lol. Picamilon and Semax seem to dominate nootropics message boards – so I tried them last month. Picamilon made me even more depressed. Semax felt awesome – like a purest mild adderall minus any negative effects of adderall. Clarity, energy and focus!

I got myself a little girlfriend situation here. And yes I finally got laid! Met her online – not what I wanted- but never the less! She is a US 7 and taller than me by 2 inches. Most Russian women wear hills, even in the winter time ,so you do the math what we look like together She is 17 years younger than me as well but I would say we are on the same maturity level. Very nice, educated girl who has a good job and her own place (with a roommate).. I think I’ll stick around with her.
Interestingly enough, same week I met my current gf…I had two other girls expressing interest in me. One is a 9 and the other is a 8+. But hey…better having one bird in hand?.. Right now we are just flirting heavily and both invited me to do something with them this weekend. But I already made plans with the gf. My goal is not to play out this relationship like I always did in the past – becoming needy and controlling.

What amazes me is foreign guys from poor countries coming to Russia and getting married to 9s! I met a guy from Ghana who is getting married here. He is nothing special of course – no money or prospects to speak of. Came here as a student and boom, met all the white ladies he ever dreamt of! Another one I met today was from Ecuador – also nothing special, short, fat, poor …with a 9! Already married to her. They met working on a cruise ship – so that tells you right away about his level of income. Anyone who is obviously foreign is noticed here by girls. Kind of a non-white God effect if you will! Met this African Brazilian guy - also getting attention like crazy! Cute blond girls sitting on his lap at dancing socials. Yes I am still hitting up salsa socials like it’s my job! Who else, some white guy from Toronto showed up – not sure what his story was- but he was more or less like me, barely noticed. He attempted to pick up some girls but it was obvious what he was doing ,I think he got some numbers though. Crazy how it all works- when a black guy is going around the room hitting on every girl – they see it as normal! When a white guy does – all of the sudden he is a player!? Anyway- if you are non white- come to a second tier Russian city. Oh and don’t bother to learn any Russian – even better!

Quote: (02-19-2014 04:15 PM)arnoux Wrote:  

I strongly doubt that you are really in russia, your last post is a complete non sense.

You mean about the non white god factor...yep.
But I guess those are such a minority that even if only 1% likes them that is 1000 girls for everyone of them. its probably like black guys in Germany.