Quote: (09-20-2013 05:37 AM)TrueStory Wrote:
I live in Miami, FL but visit Kharkiv, Ukraine often. I saw someone bitching on here how it's hard to get ONS in Ukraine... well it's not, but if you don't speak the language it might be challenging. I found that younger girls (in younger crowd club) are easier to pull. Most local guys chode-out when you approach their girls. Also consider going after older women, for ONS. I've seen high rate of infidelity with 25-30 year olds. My anecdotal experience might not be the same for everyone, but I am Ukrainian born and lived in the country until I was 13...maybe I understand Ukrainians culture better than tourists. The appearance of financial success is definitely a game changer. This should not be difficult for Americans considering exchange rates.
I know Roosh was disapproval of Kharkiv. One of his reasons was it's spread out (there isn't a central party location) and not too many people speak English. I agree, it's a bitch to hop cabs from club to club. But it's not expensive. Most cab rides are under 40 UAH ~ $10.
Language-wise, yes if you don't speak Russian you are not going to have a good time. But if you do, it's actually amazing. But not having too many girls speaking English is a good thing, you have less of obnoxious bro-chodes polluting the city for sex tourism.
For everyone thinking about coming to Kharkiv, the problem with most of you is that you've been brainwashed by american feminist movement. I was catching myself being indecisive, allowing women to lead, and not taking up on my masculine duties to be more aggressive. I observed this behavior with many Americans that travel here to "look for wife" or for sex tourism. Unfortunately, these guys are being played by women here, once the newly weds move to US, and bitch secures her green card, she immediately leaves the poor chode. I don't know statistics but anecdotal evidence are common.
Anywho, if anyone in Kharkov right now, hit me up via PM. I speak both Russian and English fluently and I can do Ukrainian as well.
I was actually at Plazma and Rodmir last week, also Galaktika is nice. However, the most girl-to-guy ratio was at Misto (which also happens to have a strip club in it). Anecdotal incidentsof UA same night pulls surpass US simply because there are more options to choose from. IF i walk into a club in South Beach (say Mansion or LIV) I am immediately against ridiculous amount of guys (successful and decent looking). I recall days when I would go to Delano and slam approach after approach, mostly interacting with tourist cougars and fall flat set after set. In college bars in Coconut Grove i would experience same results. However, in Ukraine, I hook almost immediatelly (considering i speak perfect russian and i do not have an accent. often girls are not even aware that I live in US).
Where are you guys doing same night pull to in Ukraine? ( i speculate girls are more afraid of being raped/kidnapped by a stranger than having a reputation of a whore/slut - which is the case in US.. We have high crime rates when it comes to kidnapping girls and sending them into prostitution in butt-fuck-middle east) so yeah.
TrueStory, there you go! It seems like we need to meet up together now. Finally Ukrainian-born American in my City. You are telling these guys some real truth on the dating game here in Ukraine. Being Ukrainian born player lets me giving some advice from my own perspective.
As for getting ONS in Ukraine - it super possible for you as long as you:
1. Are Direct. Don't be shy, tell this Ukrainian horses what you think about them, break their shyness, be as much direct as possible.
2. Handle conversation. Of course it's super possible for a Ukrainian guy with better then average looks get some quick poosy since there is a conversation flow that never happens between the native US speaker and Ukrainian chick that can't express what's on her mind propertly. Normally chicks can't do that in their own language, add language barrier to this one and you get lots of miscommunication between both parties. So, You better learn some Russian language. No needs to learn Ukrainian. I personally never use in my own life.
3. Can Get some car for rent (a.k.a. a poosy magnet in Ukraine). will cut off lots of the time between the meeting and the gang bang process. Make sure you got a nice brand European, Japanese car. You even can solve previous problem a lot (#2) with this one.
4. Get Young chicks(18-21) vs Old Chicks (28-30) - These are two categories that are super easy to get down. First ones are a bit stupid and naive, other ones are desperate about any good Mr. Cock in their ... you know. They will treat you like there is no other chance for them to left.
5. Lie to them. As much as possible. You can promise marriage after the BJ or whatever comes to your mind. Your goal is what's hidden under her belt.
TrueStory is right,
While being foreigner couldn't bring that much success in Kharkiv comparing to Kiev, being a native guy (Which does work in case of the TrueStory) makes Kharkiv a poosy paradise in the whole country. Trust me guys, I've been to the numerous cities. Kharkiv has one of the hottest ratio of chicks per 1 square feet I've ever seen in all the cities I've ever visited not even in Ukraine, but in the world. The reason is pretty simple, Kharkiv is a student's city, so many hotties are all over the place. After graduation, they don't want to come back home to their small cities, they want to stay in Kharkiv. That makes the city overall young all the year around and puts some atmosphere that no other city can deliver. Kiev does not have it. Kiev is full for the most part of the older people coming to the capital for their Ukrainian dream. However Kiev might work better for a foreigner since 90% of the young chicks are just chasing for a international pipe. He is also right about wife-mail-ordering system. Most chicks that keep it real, don't do it. The rest gold diggers play the games and leave the guy after she got what she need (GreenCard Status) for a bigger pocket guy once she is in US.
In terms of the clubs - Galaktika is bit of the trashy. Real Kharkiv clubs are there:
Panarama, Misto, Bolero, Radmir.
These 4 are the greatest, but based on the fact that chicks are everywhere in the city, you can have a luck in way cheaper clubs as well. Plazma is a good one too.
TrueStory, Let's meet up, Bro! I have a long story connecting me with USA, and seems like you are connected with Ukraine. Should be a decent click. Also, if there is any other players right now in the city, hit me up via PM. I am also thinking about releasing some tactics in one of the dedicated threads here at forum and will hang out with all the players coming to the Kharkiv to share some knowledge.