I recently got back from two weeks in Rio, and despite my very limited experience, at the request of the OP I'll post my thoughts here as to why I didn't get the impression Brazil is a good place to find a wife, and I moved on quicker than I anticipated (had a one-way ticket and the option to stay significantly longer)...
Keeping in mind I spoke zero Portuguese, my experience echoes much of what was expressed in this thread a few years ago by its OP and others, "Everything I thought about Brazil is not true"
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While I had an amazing time, did the craziest partying of my life during Carnival and had, er, experience with a number of attractive girls including Brazilians, despite being overwhelmed by the physical beauty of a lot of them, I was disappointed overall from the perspective of looking for a high quality LTR:
-I am not a fan of tattoos on girls. I think it's slutty, and one of the most reliable indicators of short-term oriented behavior there is. Never in my life have I seen more of it than in Brazil, my gosh, I found myself literally jaw-dropped. It didn't matter how attractive the girl was, so so many had them, and I don't mean cute little butterflies on ankles. One girl had two massive cherries spanning the entirety of her leg. Cherries! And they were attached to a shoot like 8> .. what the hell could the significance of this be? Was this supposed to be a huge schlong?! At one point I wondered whether they were going in and choosing from a menu, like ordering at McDonald's. I'll take the Kyoto Yakuza on the left bicep and the Aladdin Lamp on the abdomen. Oh and draw a pineapple in between my tits please, I haven't eaten one of those in a while.
-Night after night I stood in line for large, high-class venues and then interacted with some of the hottest girls I have ever seen in my life, no joke. Except after a few times meeting hot girls from different groups during the day who were all going to that same place later and then paying what I thought were crazy covers for Brazil, it seemed that most of the 8-10s of the entire city would go to that one venue on a given night. So sheer numbers, sure, but percentage wise overall I became very skeptical.
From that thread...
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Why on hell are you going to brazil if you prefer "white girls"??? In fact you first should read and encyclopedia and understand the mediocre (brown) girls are by far the majority in brazil, and chances are the big majority of white ones arent even that white, at least not by european standards, if you like like white girls: europe, asian girls: asia, black girls ;africa, mixed girls: latin america.
Brazil and latin america are good places if you like mixed looking women, mulatas or amerindian admixed.
Going to a place to game women who are highly prized is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard, like gaming white women (especially blondes and redheads) in latin america, arab countries or mediterranean europe, where they are highly desired by local men.
-The hottest girls I saw were mixed white, mostly-white, or white. Next up: moving from southern to northern Florida for improved chances of snow!
-Again echoing that thread, never have I struck out harder in my life. I felt like a bull running in a glass house, and I talked to many people and girls. This isn't my style as I'm far from monkey approach man and I'm selective with whom I talk to, but night after night things snowballed downhill. These days I don't value girls at clubs and I think most on this thread won't, but I think it's noteworthy.
-Virgin? Uh... *looks off in the distance.* Carnival just may be “the anniversary of when I lost my virginity... at twelve.” Joking aside, my feeling is chastity is not a widespread virtue there.
-Feminism seems to have reared its ugly head, probably not as bad as other places, but it was noticeable and I can point to concrete experiences. However, this could be because the girls I'm basing this on understood English and thus would have been exposed to more poisonous ideas.
-I would not want to spend the time and effort to learn Portuguese, when in all my years of traveling I've encountered almost no use for it, just to live in Brazil “one day” and meet a Brazilian girl. While I know there are a great many things to see and do in Brazil, I could not see myself living there for several reasons.
Perhaps my experience can be chalked up to some combination of:
1) Only stayed in one (major) city
2) Zero Portuguese
3) Dates encompassing/surrounding Carnival
However, I was recently in Mexico City (major city) for example, and had no problem whatsoever despite my severely limited Spanish with Google Translate. Overall I found people not just girls warm and fun, and the culture accessible and welcoming. People didn't seem to be in one of two extremes itching to leave Mexico or up in the elite social stratosphere. People had cars, and jobs, sometimes great jobs. Ambitious, curious about the world, experiences to share. I actually booked my ticket from Rio back to Mexico City.
Again from that thread,
in 2012...
Quote: (07-03-2012 06:28 AM)Roosh Wrote:
Brazil seems to be turning into a "second tier only" kind of spot. If I went today I would probably skip Rio or SP.
If people are saying that
in 2012, and the forum is at least divided if not in agreement that
even in the US quality women can be found in lower-tier cities, then I have to ask, what's the point?
As an example ya'll will be interested in, I did do quite well at one venue with one of the most recent Miss Brazil finalists who was to be absolutely sure one of the top three hottest girls I saw the whole trip. We were talking for a solid 10 or 15, she had a large posse of girls including her hot cousin who all encouraged it as well. I almost got her out for a drink the next day but the interaction ultimately went flat, and after prying I learned it was because I was only there for a short period and she was also heading back soon to wherever in Brazil. So again, the combination of short time + possible perception of being a sex tourist + no Portuguese and thus perception of no interest in the culture, could be more detrimental than I'm giving it credit.
Then again, "Miss Brazil Finalist" does not a quality-mother-of-my-kids make.
Overall, I'm not writing it off entirely; I did have an invaluable experience there, and I did wonder throughout what it would have been like with fluent Portuguese as that was certainly a hindrance. But as my personal travel these days is mostly related to what we're talking about in this thread, I did not hesitate for too long before booking my ticket out.
Hope this helps.