[Travesty]

Home sweet home.

[the biggest cheetah]

Travesty: I saw earlier in the thread that you visited Colombia and didn't think the women were wife material. A couple questions for you... did you go to any smaller cities/countryside, or just stay in the main tourist spots? And did any of the girls you meet only speak Spanish? I found the girls in Medellin to be just about as annoying as anywhere in Latin America, but in places elsewhere in the country (the Caribbean, Bucaramanga, etc.) it was night and day different. I'd rather bang an 8 from Medellin no doubt for a fling, but I'd find it much easier to wife a young virgin 6 from Central America or Peru or something, knowing I'd never lose paternity of my kids...

It is my firm belief that English language (or rather the culture associated with it) is what ruins women. If you watch hispanic TV, it's banal and insufferable, but it isn't hardcore feminist for example. You were down on GDL - where I had a blast - but maybe you didn't find Spanish-only girls? I live in Central Mexico (with my imported Colombian), and the wealthy English-speaking girls here all have family in Texas or Miami and American cultural problems that go with it.

My LTR is from rural Colombia, doesn't speak English, but does have a degree in a STEM field so she is smart enough to get by. My experience is only that of one man, but us learning the local language and making sure she isn't familiar with American culture and never becomes so seems more important than many other factors.

[Travesty]

I think Colombianas on average may come from messed up homes. Single moms, poverty, Dad or his friends into criminal activities at some points than Mexico by far. Even more good girl types from stable homes often can have small trashy tattoos etc. Mexican girls are just more family oriented and traditional in this sense from my more limited experiences.

That said there are gems in Colombia I am sure and more than is thought on this board, which is to not take Colombianas seriously for LTRs.

I did not go to second tier Colombia yet. I would be willing to go as my Spanish keeps improving and I am more comfortable with the country.

I would not however marry a 6. I could do that in the United States with ease and find one that is church going, shy, loyal etc. I could never stay faithful or treat a relationship with a 6 seriously. My resentment would show immediately.

Yes I found Spanish only girls in both Mexico and Colombia. Entire dates and bangs in all Spanish.

I just don't like Mexican women's personalities so far I have no attraction to that side of them. Also I score zero brownie points for being a gringo, American, or speaking Spanish compared to Colombia where I score huge points. I see myself becoming the largest detractor of Mexico on this board outside of maybe the beach towns for surfing and vacationing. I really don't see its appeal on any level whether architecture, city life, girls, music. After reading so much on Mexico on here I am surprised the posts are usually 90% positive in review. I have no idea why or how. With Colombia I completely agree with everything written to a T.

You are in the rare circumstance earlier described in the thread. Bring a girl from a good 3rd world wife country to a more LTR friendly 2nd world country which is interesting and rare and you should write about your journey courting her, then moving to central Mexico.

[the biggest cheetah]

My ltr is a 7 in my view +/- .5 point depending on your racial preferences. If you like dark skin, it'd be toward the top of the range - in places like Argentina, few people hit on her, in places that like Afro-latinas, I have to mate guard. She's very skinny and has a solid body.

If I were older and fewer options, I'd trade down a point to make sure I got a loyal wife. As it is, I'm 27 and have good money, so I fortunately didn't have to give up too much in the looks department.

She does meet all of this list except the divorced parent category, since her dad was a pass out in the street drunk:

She must be physically attractive, young, and of fertile age
She cannot be divorced - If she's had one divorce, she may be willing to go through another one
She cannot be a single mother – A man shouldn’t be raising somebody else’s kids
She shouldn’t smoke, drink or do drugs
She must respect her parents - a sign of class and good manners
Her parents are not divorced – If her parents are divorced, she might think about it too
Her siblings are not divorced - If any of her siblings are divorced, she might think about it too. They have to be in stable marriages.
She cooks and cleans for her family
She’s a virgin – this is to make sure she hasn’t ridden the cock carousel
She wants children and she’s willing to give up work to raise children – her career comes second to family life
She has good manners and is well spoken
She cannot come from a family where anybody has been to prison – this is a sign of shitty family
She must respect her future husband's close and extended family
She must always keep any issues with her future husband and family “in house”, and not gossip about it to others since this is disrespectful
She must treat her future husband well. Be nice to him and cook for him
She must treat any guests that come to the house well. Offer them drinks and food.

The first six months or so of our relationship, I was looking for reasons to disqualify, as I wasn't in a rush to commit. But upon further thinking, taking a good deal seems better than expending more time and energy trying to move up another half point or so in quality.

GDL sucks as far as living - it's got all the nasty elements of sprawl from the American sunbelt. Places like Guanajuato have nice architecture and cute girls. In general though, central Mexico isn't the nicest part of the country as far as aesthetics go. I hate cars, so I could never live in GDL. I don't blame you for not liking the city - it's a weekend trip only sort of place for me. That said, I enjoyed it for what it was, but I do have some friends there.

I'll probably write more about my relationship as time goes on; still trying to figure out the ropes here so I don't get myself banned while I'm still a no-rep newbie.

[Travesty]

^ I appreciate your contribution. Please write more.

Hey look my favorite family story from Colombianas right front and center as usual:

(04-03-2016 08:51 PM)the biggest cheetah Wrote:  

She does meet all of this list except the divorced parent category, since her dad was a pass out in the street drunk

I have written before I think though as far as I am concerned I am very fair white. I am into chicks of every shade. Darker girls though whether mixed black, latina, or asian always seem to be more into me with much less work.

I think my best bet as a wife would be a low 7, killer body, darker skin. Worldwide all men on average have much much more thirst for lighter skinned chicks no matter the race. I am fine with a dark Pochahantas type (as far as Latinas/Colombianas go) and I think that would be my best match as how into me she is and how much less I would have to mate guard.

[262]

(04-03-2016 08:56 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Worldwide all men on average have much much more thirst for lighter skinned chicks no matter the race.

Not saying the above isn't true, but:

My Polish wings here in Gdansk actually prefer darker girls, including black chicks.

It's also fashionable for girls here to dye their hair black. My Polish wings also prefer these girls.

Poland - especially outside Warsaw - is quite homogeneous.

Always want what you can't have, it seems.

[Travesty]

Want what you can't have, I agree. Many less women of truly fair skin, hair, and eyes worldwide.

Truck tons of black hair, dark dark brown eyes, shades of tan to brown.

Thanks for the exception from one of the 5 last homogenous white countries on planet Earth. 2/10 exception.

If you lived in the DR - something tells me you aren't going there anytime soon, your exception would carry more strength. Maybe a 3.5/10 exception.

[262]

^ Isn't wife hunting - even abroad - a quest for exceptions, and increasing your chances of finding them?

[Travesty]

Touche.

[Rawmeo]

(04-03-2016 08:51 PM)the biggest cheetah Wrote:  

My ltr is a 7 in my view +/- .5 point depending on your racial preferences. If you like dark skin, it'd be toward the top of the range - in places like Argentina, few people hit on her, in places that like Afro-latinas, I have to mate guard. She's very skinny and has a solid body.

If I were older and fewer options, I'd trade down a point to make sure I got a loyal wife. As it is, I'm 27 and have good money, so I fortunately didn't have to give up too much in the looks department.

She does meet all of this list except the divorced parent category, since her dad was a pass out in the street drunk:

She must be physically attractive, young, and of fertile age
She cannot be divorced - If she's had one divorce, she may be willing to go through another one
She cannot be a single mother – A man shouldn’t be raising somebody else’s kids
She shouldn’t smoke, drink or do drugs
She must respect her parents - a sign of class and good manners
Her parents are not divorced – If her parents are divorced, she might think about it too
Her siblings are not divorced - If any of her siblings are divorced, she might think about it too. They have to be in stable marriages.
She cooks and cleans for her family
She’s a virgin – this is to make sure she hasn’t ridden the cock carousel
She wants children and she’s willing to give up work to raise children – her career comes second to family life
She has good manners and is well spoken
She cannot come from a family where anybody has been to prison – this is a sign of shitty family
She must respect her future husband's close and extended family
She must always keep any issues with her future husband and family “in house”, and not gossip about it to others since this is disrespectful
She must treat her future husband well. Be nice to him and cook for him
She must treat any guests that come to the house well. Offer them drinks and food.

The first six months or so of our relationship, I was looking for reasons to disqualify, as I wasn't in a rush to commit. But upon further thinking, taking a good deal seems better than expending more time and energy trying to move up another half point or so in quality.

GDL sucks as far as living - it's got all the nasty elements of sprawl from the American sunbelt. Places like Guanajuato have nice architecture and cute girls. In general though, central Mexico isn't the nicest part of the country as far as aesthetics go. I hate cars, so I could never live in GDL. I don't blame you for not liking the city - it's a weekend trip only sort of place for me. That said, I enjoyed it for what it was, but I do have some friends there.

I'll probably write more about my relationship as time goes on; still trying to figure out the ropes here so I don't get myself banned while I'm still a no-rep newbie.

Word. My LTR also has all those criterias. This makes sure that you won't end up in a dead end like 50% of marriages.

[samsamsam]

(04-05-2016 05:33 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  

Word. My LTR also has all those criterias. This makes sure that you won't end up in a dead end like 50% of marriages.

As much as I wish that was true, nothing guarantees she won't end up being bad. But I do think it improve your odds for a lasting marriage.

[Malone]

So I can contribute to this it seems.

I'm currently in the process of importing my Vietnamese girlfriend to Spain via Schengen visa. Probably end up wifing her up and start to cranking out little Malones. We've been on and off for 3 years and we're stuck on each other.

I'll be 44 later this year, she's 23. It's good to be a man.

[Russianbrother]

(03-28-2016 06:39 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

^ Where do you live?

When was the last time you were in Kiev?

You have 6 posts. This means you need to give some answers.

Listen I live inside a tank in Syria. If I wanted to go to Kiev I would just roll it over there, problem solved.

What does my post count has to do with logic and brains?

You have a country where bunch of morons burned people alive on a fucken live broadcasting, and got away from that as "heroes".

They are broke as fuck and the only thing they have and can do is killing and robing, because they can.
Watch the criminal statistics and you will see what I mean.

It is not that if you go there that you will be killed right at the Airport on your arrival date, but everything tells that in a Year that might be so.

You have to understand, that the "government" doesn`t controll the majority of those jerks, and that they stay out of the sight at the moment, because they are robing locals.
But you never know when the shit gets on fire, and I would not recomment to be there at that moment.

[Russianbrother]

(03-28-2016 07:37 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

Russianbrother,

When was the last time you are in Kiev? Have you ever been there at all?

I was born in Kiev.
Last time I was in 2014, trying to get out of Kiev some of my familly members, and almost got killed with them on the way to Crimea, belive it or not.

I still have many friends left there, so I am well informed about what is going on there.
You seem to forget that you as a tourist, see only one side of living but not other sides.
So if it is safe for "you" at the moment, that doesn`t mean that it is actually save.

As I said there are no explosions on the streets right now, but you can get into a trouble very fast.


You can go to the part of Syria which controlled by the Government, and declare that is very peacefull and safe. But nobody can guarantee you that no bomb shells are going to hit your Hotel and etc.

That is the same situation on Ukraine right now, it is more or less peacefull, but the Risks are there and they are rising daily.

[Russianbrother]

(04-11-2016 05:37 AM)Malone Wrote:  

So I can contribute to this it seems.

I'm currently in the process of importing my Vietnamese girlfriend to Spain via Schengen visa. Probably end up wifing her up and start to cranking out little Malones. We've been on and off for 3 years and we're stuck on each other.

I'll be 44 later this year, she's 23. It's good to be a man.

Could you cover abit more on that topic?

I am planning to go to Phillipines or Vietnam for a long term, and maybe I will find someone there.
But I can`t decide at the moment where to go, since Phillipines are great for sleeping left and right, but the Viet girls look more hotter for me, and If I marry one I want to be sure that I got the best one I could.

What doubts me about Vietnam is the language,since it is very hard to learn and I actually can`t imagine myself how a relationship can work out with no communication?

I would be thankfull for your information.

[Malone]

I can't give any info on the Philippines as I've never been there. However, I have lived in Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam. Of the three, I like Viet girls the best.

They're hot and feminine, and are often very traditional. Lots of them speak English to one degree or another. Personally I don't speak Vietnamese and never will. Unless you're planning to live in Vietnam long term it's a waste of time. I had a very high rate of English with the girls I approached/dated - it's quite common in my target market.

[Jack Of All Trades]

anyone brought a girl back from your homeland and have any interesting experiences? I speak the language, does that have any advantage in relations?

[samsamsam]

(04-11-2016 10:36 PM)Jack Of All Trades Wrote:  

anyone brought a girl back from your homeland and have any interesting experiences? I speak the language, does that have any advantage in relations?

While there are fine gentlemen that have that are members of this forum, I imagine going to a forum that is much more feared toward marriage like this one http://ruadventures.com/forum/ might be better for asking that.

Just find one that applies to your wife/potential wife's country.

[Rawmeo]

(04-11-2016 10:36 PM)Jack Of All Trades Wrote:  

anyone brought a girl back from your homeland and have any interesting experiences? I speak the language, does that have any advantage in relations?

I assume you are Canadian, so am I. Let me copy & paste the post I made in the Justin Trudeau thread in the Politics forum:

"Back in 2013, when I tried to bring my Thai girl and her mother for a 1-month vacation in Canada, we applied for a visa.
Her parents' situation: Married for 30 years, 4 children, posess 3 houses, 4 cars, 2 startup businesses, and her mother works for the government since the last 25 years. They both had USD $200,000 in the bank.
Verdict: Denied, "you did not show enough proof of ties to your home country, therefore I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay".
I then called my bank and filed a chargeback for "fraud" to get my visa fees back, as this was clearly a fraud. And it got resolved in my favor.

If you are a Syrian refugee, or come from pretty much any Muslim country and come to Canada to make your own law, they let you in, and welcome you with baskets of gifts like they did to all Syrian refugees. Nothing easier.

At the same time, we applied for a visa to USA, since we wanted to go on a trip to New York. They asked for a couple of papers, but it got approved. So we flew to New York, spent a few days there. Then we drove to the border to seek admission anyway. They denied her, and stuck a 1-year exclusion order down her throat. When returning to USA from the border, we were followed by 2 US Border Patrol cars to make sure that there would be no smuggling attempt. I got pulled over and extensively questioned twice. She ultimately flew back to Thailand, and I drove back to Canada.

At the border, when re-entering Canada alone, I got searched and questioned for 4 hours. I had the RCMP car waiting for me there, and when I went on my way, the RCMP, along with 2 provincial police cars, followed me for 30 minutes to make sure that I wouldn't try to bring her in the country."

So in short, there are 4 ways to bring a girl into Canada:

1) Be married and request Permanent Resident status
2) Have a LOT of money (around CAD $100k) in the bank
3) Have a very good lawyer with internal connections with the embassy
4) Be a Muslim

[Kamaki4]

Rawmeo, I don't doubt your story and what you experienced must have left a sour taste in your mouth. Reading the description I assume you assisted your GF and her mother with the application. and the Canadian gov't was aware of your friendship with your GF, is that correct?

[Kaizen]

(04-11-2016 05:37 AM)Malone Wrote:  

So I can contribute to this it seems.

I'm currently in the process of importing my Vietnamese girlfriend to Spain via Schengen visa. Probably end up wifing her up and start to cranking out little Malones. We've been on and off for 3 years and we're stuck on each other.

I'll be 44 later this year, she's 23. It's good to be a man.

Good stuff Malone

Any specific cities you recommend in Nam for LTR girls?

[Malone]

(04-12-2016 09:28 AM)Kaizen Wrote:  

(04-11-2016 05:37 AM)Malone Wrote:  

So I can contribute to this it seems.

I'm currently in the process of importing my Vietnamese girlfriend to Spain via Schengen visa. Probably end up wifing her up and start to cranking out little Malones. We've been on and off for 3 years and we're stuck on each other.

I'll be 44 later this year, she's 23. It's good to be a man.

Good stuff Malone

Any specific cities you recommend in Nam for LTR girls?

Saigon is where it's at really. Everything else is smaller or tougher. Hanoi would be second.

There's some truly ridiculous amount of people in greater Saigon. Our small pool of expat players isn't going to fish out that pond.

Personally the life in Saigon grates on me after a while so I can't live there anymore. My need to kill rises very quickly.

[Brosemite]

(04-12-2016 02:09 PM)Malone Wrote:  

Personally the life in Saigon grates on me after a while so I can't live there anymore. My need to kill rises very quickly.

I would likely not raise a family Saigon as well.

Coming from a guy who is half-Vietnamese, sure the light portions of food keeps women slim, etc. I would however prefer that my future kids eat well so they can grow to their max potential & have more space to engage in sports opposed to just sitting around cramped in on scooters all day.

Even in a place like Kaosiung, Taiwan...there are great state of the arts athletic facilities all over the city for kids to train themselves physically. Just my opinion.

[Travesty]

Destination V: Salt Lake City, UT, USA

Well it isn't international, yet Utah is almost like another country.

I was only in Salt Lake for 2 nights and 1 day. I have been to the city previously about a decade ago for a single day. I went for a 2 night concert on a road trip, so it was mostly circumstance I visited.

Among the list of U.S. cities known on the forum as being better chances at wife material Salt Lake had made the short list:

Minneapolis
Chicago
Charleston
Salt Lake City

The upside:
Salt Lake has some nice scenery. It is easy to get around. The air is fresh. I've heard living expenses are cheap.

There is a solid pocket of good looking women, I especially noticed looking very good in their 30s and 40s.

I wonder what proportion of these women are strict Mormons. I am guessing a decent amount and their healthy lifestyle and no whoring around keeps them fresh.

The downside:
Utah is a weird state. Salt Lake is a weird city. Outside of the downtown area many of the neighborhoods look a bit run down. There are rules everywhere. Rules posted at the park when you walk in. Highway digital signs saying 42 deaths is too much for traffic fatalities. I couldn't order a double vodka at the concert, no double drink pours, it is against state law. No smoking on bar outdoor patios (really?). Bars close at 1AM.

There are people on the borderline of white trash everywhere. There are more homeless than you would expect for such a small city.

I was walking across a wide street at a stop light when the hand was flashing red half way across. The streets weren't busy. As I finished crossing a guy turning left to where I was walking rolled down his window to shout some obscenity. I may have cost him 2 seconds when the roads were practically empty.

After getting out of the bars downtown standing on a street corner a couple guys slowed down to roll down their window and say "hey!" then just smiled and gave me the middle finger.

There is a sort of fucked up depressing energy in this city. You can feel the failure in many of the people. I think the city Mormons with their shit together should just round up all the white trash and kick them over to New Mexico or something.

At the concert one night I overheard the much stereotyped conversation about SLC locals almost being embarrassed to say they are born and raised there because so many locals hate on living there.

The pocket of attractive bright eyed young (most likely Mormon) girls is a nice little bait. I think the city itself would not be a great place to live by any means. Hence it is off my list.

It feels like a more white trash, smaller, on the down swing, much less cool version of Denver.

Denver's strange little failure of a cousin.

[Kamaki4]

(04-12-2016 02:43 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(04-12-2016 02:09 PM)Malone Wrote:  

Personally the life in Saigon grates on me after a while so I can't live there anymore. My need to kill rises very quickly.

I would likely not raise a family Saigon as well.

Coming from a guy who is half-Vietnamese, sure the light portions of food keeps women slim, etc. I would however prefer that my future kids eat well so they can grow to their max potential & have more space to engage in sports opposed to just sitting around cramped in on scooters all day.

Even in a place like Kaosiung, Taiwan...there are great state of the arts athletic facilities all over the city for kids to train themselves physically. Just my opinion.

I think a responsible future parent has to give a lot of thought to raising a family in any country in SEA outside of Singapore and even that city state poses a few issues although not not more than Canada or a western European country. Personally put starting a family on the back burner for now.