[Nascimento]

(02-19-2016 02:26 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

However I hear BH is a very boring city which is a shame.

It would be boring if one's only purpose is to go there for girls.

There's much to do in BH. It helps to have a social network, sure, but what's to stop you from creating one?

[Travesty]

^ I thought girls were the selling point from what I read and the rest of the city is not, not getting what you mean here.

It seems like you are saying the girls are not a good selling point for the city, though its activities are.

[Nascimento]

Of course the girls are attractive there. It just doesn't make sense to me to think a city with 4 million+ people could be boring. Those who suggest it is are probably boring themselves.

[Travesty]

Could you expand on why or why not you think BH would be a good place to find a LTR?

Have you spent much time there, or do you have an old post you made about it I can read?

[Brosemite]

(02-19-2016 02:26 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

However I hear BH is a very boring city which is a shame.

If I give up on Mexico my next stop would most likely be BH to check it out for myself.

Who in the world said BH is a very boring city?

My data sheet on the place:
thread-613-p...#pid470532

Other than the high end clubbing and interesting points within the city, I'd say there are some nice day trips outside of it too. The suburbs south & southwest of BH possess a bit of character as well. Beautiful views in BH minus a beach, but meh who cares.

(02-19-2016 02:26 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

All this said I am heavily thinking about moving to the best U.S. Tier 2 or Tier 3 city possible while I use my off time to keep exploring abroad - at least until I can work remotely and use that same U.S. city as my home base for the off chance I get lucky.

California has 70%+ divorce rate and pretty intense male competition, high COL for raising a family.

The successful relationship guys I have seen here are white guys that marry foreign born Asian (usually only okay looking) and Asian couples that either have very high income or live in very cookie cutter bland long commute time suburbs (would be hell for me personally).

Say hello to Mark Zuckerberg for me....

(02-18-2016 10:20 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

If I get a reserved chick why not just buy a sexbot that cooks? I like women to be more excitable than I am. That's how see I see it. I am a little loco and prone to some outbursts once in awhile myself so we will see.

A woman whom possesses somewhat of a compelling personality...I need that conviction myself.

(02-19-2016 01:58 PM)Lian Wrote:  

-I am not a fan of tattoos on girls. I think it's slutty, and one of the most reliable indicators of short-term oriented behavior there is. Never in my life have I seen more of it than in Brazil, my gosh, I found myself literally jaw-dropped. It didn't matter how attractive the girl was, so so many had them, and I don't mean cute little butterflies on ankles. One girl had two massive cherries spanning the entirety of her leg. Cherries! And they were attached to a shoot like 8> .. what the hell could the significance of this be? Was this supposed to be a huge schlong?! At one point I wondered whether they were going in and choosing from a menu, like ordering at McDonald's. I'll take the Kyoto Yakuza on the left bicep and the Aladdin Lamp on the abdomen. Oh and draw a pineapple in between my tits please, I haven't eaten one of those in a while.

The worst is when you get shot down by one of those gals, lol. Been there..but I didn't take it personally..was a matter of approaching like a machine gun & onto the next.

(02-19-2016 01:58 PM)Lian Wrote:  

Night after night I stood in line for large, high-class venues and then interacted with some of the hottest girls I have ever seen in my life, no joke. Except after a few times meeting hot girls from different groups during the day who were all going to that same place later and then paying what I thought were crazy covers for Brazil, it seemed that most of the 8-10s of the entire city would go to that one venue on a given night. So sheer numbers, sure, but percentage wise overall I became very skeptical.

It sure helps can pay exponentially less than guys for these venues...the worst..is at 2-3AM..when these same girls want to transition to another night club where they pay practically nothing & guys have to shell out the same outrageous cover...

(02-19-2016 01:58 PM)Lian Wrote:  

From that thread...

Quote:

Why on hell are you going to brazil if you prefer "white girls"??? In fact you first should read and encyclopedia and understand the mediocre (brown) girls are by far the majority in brazil, and chances are the big majority of white ones arent even that white, at least not by european standards, if you like like white girls: europe, asian girls: asia, black girls ;africa, mixed girls: latin america.

Brazil and latin america are good places if you like mixed looking women, mulatas or amerindian admixed.

Going to a place to game women who are highly prized is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard, like gaming white women (especially blondes and redheads) in latin america, arab countries or mediterranean europe, where they are highly desired by local men.

-The hottest girls I saw were mixed white, mostly-white, or white. Next up: moving from southern to northern Florida for improved chances of snow!

If you see a hot white or mixed white chick from Rio, chances are she's taken. Not only were they taken during my visit...but they possessed some of the largest rocks I had ever seen on the fourth finger of that left hand!

If you see one that is not taken, then it was likely a female Brazilian tourist visiting from another party of the country. The best place to find hot Brazilian chicks of that European ancestry would be Goiânia, Belo Horizonte, and states of Rio Grande do Sul State/Santa Catarina/Mato Grosso do Sul/São Paulo...Portuguese however is a must.

Suburbs of Salvador, Bahia is a place that produces some fine ass women of African ancestry though I find Mulatta chicks from Spanish speaking countries more attractive.

(02-19-2016 01:58 PM)Lian Wrote:  

Perhaps my experience can be chalked up to some combination of:
1) Only stayed in one (major) city
2) Zero Portuguese
3) Dates encompassing/surrounding Carnival

Those three factors hurt...especially since Carnaval is mainly a time for close friends to "go out" with primarily just each other.

(02-19-2016 01:58 PM)Lian Wrote:  

However, I was recently in Mexico City (major city) for example, and had no problem whatsoever despite my severely limited Spanish with Google Translate. Overall I found people not just girls warm and fun, and the culture accessible and welcoming. People didn't seem to be in one of two extremes itching to leave Mexico or up in the elite social stratosphere. People had cars, and jobs, sometimes great jobs. Ambitious, curious about the world, experiences to share. I actually booked my ticket from Rio back to Mexico City.

The economy in Brazil can be attributed to that desired "itch" in leaving. However, many Brazilian women might say that though end up back in their home country after living abroad for some time.

Many women might find foreigners exotic for brief periods, but need a guy who can tease, fuck, seduce, crack jokes, and comfort all in their own native language utilizing social slang to the fullest.

Many Brazilian women have gravitated even moreso to local men in this period because they want to share that emotional state to someone who can relate to their own struggles during the economic downturn.

All women are emotional thinkers at some point regarding dating, but this is exponentially moreso with Brazilian women who need a local man that can reciprocate those similar emotions right back at them.

(02-19-2016 01:58 PM)Lian Wrote:  

Overall, I'm not writing it off entirely; I did have an invaluable experience there, and I did wonder throughout what it would have been like with fluent Portuguese as that was certainly a hindrance. But as my personal travel these days is mostly related to what we're talking about in this thread, I did not hesitate for too long before booking my ticket out.

I think you could've done better with Portuguese as it helps...but if you're not feeling the vibe of a place, then it's best not to learn that language at all & move onto the next...

Brazil however is a big country so maybe you can find your vibe in a different city "with" acquired Portuguese knowledge.

[Travesty]

(02-19-2016 05:31 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Who in the world said BH is a very boring city?

Roosh Wrote:

I’d strongly consider staying here if you’re not crazy about the beach, though understand the city is ugly with nothing special to do.

http://www.rooshv.com/belo-horizonte-bra...avel-guide

[Brosemite]

(02-19-2016 05:12 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Could you expand on why or why not you think BH would be a good place to find a LTR?

Have you spent much time there, or do you have an old post you made about it I can read?

Nascimento is from there...

(02-19-2016 05:48 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(02-19-2016 05:31 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Who in the world said BH is a very boring city?

Roosh Wrote:

I’d strongly consider staying here if you’re not crazy about the beach, though understand the city is ugly with nothing special to do.

http://www.rooshv.com/belo-horizonte-bra...avel-guide

With all due respect to Roosh, I read the report & have actually been to Belo Horizonte myself. Not only that..I speak Portuguese, have friends in Belo Horizonte, and friends FROM BH in Texas. Consensus is that we like the city as it is indeed not boring.

My impression from Roosh's text about BH (which I found very useful by the way) is that he stayed in Savassi and just took a cab to the nightlife spots everyday he was there. That's not how one gets the full experience of the city..once again...no offense to Roosh.

Savassi is a main commercial center with some nightlife and bars, but the neighborhood in itself feels extremely bland despite the hype. If you walk around the areas just outside of Savassi, you will find areas such as St. Agostinho, Lourdes, and Funcionarios that possess more personality.

Mangabeiras is a very beautiful spot of the city with upscale dining, great mountainous view, and even some hiking.

The suburbs around the outskirts of the city such as
Gutierrez, Luxemburgo, Sion, Buritis, Nova Lima, and Belvedere possess quite a bit of character as well. Obviously, you might need access to some social circles whom can give you a car ride to these places not to mention time to explore.

Pampulha is an interesting spot north of the Belo Horizonte, but it doesn't really offer much outside of the university...not to mention the areas surrounding it can be sketchy.

Good article on tourism in Belo Horizonte right here:
http://lucire.com/2015/0827vo0.shtml

[Brosemite]

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[Nascimento]

Travesty I can breakdown BH a little bit for you later, just remind me over PM if you'd like.

It's been a while since I've been there long-term but it's most definitely a fun city if you have the right attitude and are keen to make the most of it.

If girls were your only purpose there though it would be boring.

All that said, BH does pale in comparison to cities like Rio and SP overall. But your gringo value there would go much further. Some portuguese would be 100% essential though.

[Travesty]

Thanks man,

BH was my #1 pick for Brazil either way. Heard Rio and SP are pretty expensive and like you said gringo value, LTR etc... seems like the best for me.

I am loving all the dark mixed chicks I see scouting on Tinder.

My Spanish is basic conversational... I probably won't be in Brazil for at least a year until I am done exploring Mexico and think it is worth moving on. I am hoping my Spanish will improve a lot by then and a couple months of Portugese tutoring could put me on a level to interact.

[Akula]

My 2 cents is that BH would be a prime spot for taking some time to chill out and meet a nice girl. I spent a month in Brazil and BH was on the top of my list along with Coritiba. Only spent a couple days there but I saw all these sexy honey-skinned women in BH and it just seems like a nicer, better place than Rio and SP but maybe I'm wrong. The surrounding mountains in BH were beautiful IMO and it's in a cool setting for a city, and Ouro Preto is close by too.

(12-11-2015 01:01 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

I am still not understanding the back and forth of whether or not Russia and Ukraine are livable long term.

It seems 80% in the NO column and 20% in the YES.

Re this I'm much more confident in saying I think Ukraine is pretty doable, esp. the Western part - Kiev too. You'll need to get back home a couple times a year but remember Western Europe is only a 2-3 hour flight away as are the beaches in Greece and Turkey, depending on where you are (Ukraine closer, but even Moscow not more than 3-4 hours to most places in Europe).
So it's pretty easy to "get back to civilization" if you need to for a bit and also to explore all of Europe and even Turkey & the Caucuses too.

It can't last forever but Kiev is so cheap now it's just a great place to settle in for a bit and date lovely ladies.

I'd say Russia is pretty doable too, but it's a bit of a different animal and we still don't know where it's headed politically, plus the visa situation is a bit of a pain, so its a little trickier. PM me for any specific thoughts.

[Brosemite]

(02-19-2016 01:58 PM)Lian Wrote:  

I recently got back from two weeks in Rio, and despite my very limited experience, at the request of the OP I'll post my thoughts here as to why I didn't get the impression Brazil is a good place to find a wife, and I moved on quicker than I anticipated (had a one-way ticket and the option to stay significantly longer)...

Keeping in mind I spoke zero Portuguese, my experience echoes much of what was expressed in this thread a few years ago by its OP and others, "Everything I thought about Brazil is not true" thread-14048.html

Speaking of that link Lian, let me elaborate on what OP posted in that other thread.

(07-01-2012 04:17 AM)PJEUA Wrote:  

When I go out to clubs and approach girls, I am just blown out one after the other. Before I got here I thought they would be interested in talking to a gringo, etc, but it seems like being a gringo is actually a DETERRENT. I'm approaching sober, trying all different types of angles, etc, but the girls just aren't feeling me in clubs. Is it my accent, too desperate maybe? From the girl's perspective I can see why it might be harder for me to arouse her than a Brazilian guy--I can't talk intimate, my accent is strange, etc. Some girls will give me attention, even want pictures with me but they still just joke with me and say "gringo" to their friend. Is it like what Roosh says--I mean how a lot of middle/upper class girls resent living in a poor country and want to show that they are "badass" and won't fall head over heals for me just because I am a gringo?

Honestly, girls can be intrigued by a gringo. Better to escalate fast if she's attracted to your look. One of my Brazilian friends who looks like a male model studied in Toronto. He got good play living up there, but there were times when he didn't escalate fast enough as the local women came to the realization that he didn't have the local sense of humor & common ground so their short attention spans withered away...

Coming from a guy still living in Brazil, let me explain the double standard of this situation too. Brazilian women can be very insecure about coming off as "easy" to foreign men...even if they are attracted to them. So escalating too fast as a gringo can really offend the chicks.

That aforementioned double standard stems from local men getting a free pass playing caveman with local women though they get really insecure when foreigners do it. That can be a painful part of living in Brazil long-term...especially for myself as an Asian guy who typically gets a pass in the West where I have the privilege of being aggressive in a favorable way minus the consequences of the female feeling "violated."

There's also the issue of Latams coming off as cliquish and territorial in social situations whether in the US or in their respective countries. I spoke to an ex-pat who is happily married to an attractive Brazilian women with a kid. He explained it best by saying there can be strong distrust issues with foreigners though they can also be hospitable other times. In the West, you give the benefit of the doubt to strangers (to an extent), but it tends to be the opposite in Latam countries. Hard to explain really unless you've experienced it.

(02-20-2016 06:39 PM)Akula Wrote:  

My 2 cents is that BH would be a prime spot for taking some time to chill out and meet a nice girl. I spent a month in Brazil and BH was on the top of my list along with Coritiba. Only spent a couple days there but I saw all these sexy honey-skinned women in BH and it just seems like a nicer, better place than Rio and SP but maybe I'm wrong. The surrounding mountains in BH were beautiful IMO and it's in a cool setting for a city, and Ouro Preto is close by too.

(12-11-2015 01:01 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

I am still not understanding the back and forth of whether or not Russia and Ukraine are livable long term.

It seems 80% in the NO column and 20% in the YES.

Re this I'm much more confident in saying I think Ukraine is pretty doable, esp. the Western part - Kiev too. You'll need to get back home a couple times a year but remember Western Europe is only a 2-3 hour flight away as are the beaches in Greece and Turkey, depending on where you are (Ukraine closer, but even Moscow not more than 3-4 hours to most places in Europe).
So it's pretty easy to "get back to civilization" if you need to for a bit and also to explore all of Europe and even Turkey & the Caucuses too.

It can't last forever but Kiev is so cheap now it's just a great place to settle in for a bit and date lovely ladies.

I'd say Russia is pretty doable too, but it's a bit of a different animal and we still don't know where it's headed politically, plus the visa situation is a bit of a pain, so its a little trickier. PM me for any specific thoughts.

Great tips..man..wish I had the luxury of going to Kiev/Lviv now from what you described.

Curitiba and Belo Horizonte are both cities with solid quality of living & beautiful scenery.

Belo has the mountains, gastronomy, friendly beauties, great suburbs, and good clubbing scene.

Curitiba is much more compact with more to do within the city, less activity in the suburbs, colder people, better park culture, 2-3 hour drive away from nice beaches of Santa Catarina, and a wider range of good nightlife outside the mega clubs.

English levels are pretty bad in both places.

(02-20-2016 03:07 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Thanks man,

BH was my #1 pick for Brazil either way. Heard Rio and SP are pretty expensive and like you said gringo value, LTR etc... seems like the best for me.

I am loving all the dark mixed chicks I see scouting on Tinder.

My Spanish is basic conversational... I probably won't be in Brazil for at least a year until I am done exploring Mexico and think it is worth moving on. I am hoping my Spanish will improve a lot by then and a couple months of Portugese tutoring could put me on a level to interact.

Once you master more basics of Spanish, Portuguese should come more easily.

[Travesty]

(02-20-2016 11:49 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

There's also the issue of Latams coming off as cliquish and territorial in social situations whether in the US or in their respective countries. I spoke to an ex-pat who is happily married to an attractive Brazilian women with a kid. He explained it best by saying there can be strong distrust issues with foreigners though they can also be hospitable other times. In the West, you give the benefit of the doubt to strangers (to an extent), but it tends to be the opposite in Latam countries. Hard to explain really unless you've experienced it.

I didn't see this much in Colombia. In GDL I did feel it on the surface although I didn't have enough time to know.

The taxi drivers in Colombia constantly asked how we liked and how we were doing with the women. In the club a few other tables let us join them to dance and drink.

[Kamaki4]

(02-19-2016 11:29 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

(02-15-2016 12:59 AM)Kamaki4 Wrote:  

Wasn't planning on mentioning it, but since it's been brought up in a few posts, I recently married a Thai girl. Seemingly one of the best decisions I have ever made. Was expecting a slight drop off after marriage, but to my surprise she is taking even better care of me now even though she was nothing short of fantastic before. I should mention that I wasn't asked to, nor did I pay sin sot (dowry). I also didn't originally move to Thailand to get married, quite the opposite in fact.

Congrats man. Wish you guys all the best.

Where did you meet her? You say you weren't looking for a wife so how did it go down? You stumbled upon a solid chick or what? I would love to hear more. PM me if you'd rather keep it private.

Here in Bangkok I must say that it's pretty hard-going in terms of LTR material (let alone wives!), although I imagine it's a completely different story in other parts of the country.

Sorry guys (Samsamsam and Dreambig) for taking so long to respond. I met my wife by chance two years ago. I was sponsoring a child through an international NGO and went to check out the local village in Northern Thailand. She was the one who did a lot of translating on the trip and we connected, or rather I tried my best to turn on the charm as per usual when I meet a hot girl. I was living in BK at the time and like a lot of guys on this forum had more than a few girls on the go.

Started taking trips up to CM to visit and liked the city, rented a place, but kept my BK apartment. Like I said, not really looking to get married or even for an LTR, but the more time I spent with my future wife the more she impressed me. Not your typical Thai girl, don't know how to describe it but traditional in the areas that we guys like, but cool and modern when she needs to be.

I think I just lucked out even though I am sure there are other marriage material Thai girls out there but not always easy to meet for foreign guys like us. We usually get preoccupied by aggressive farang hunters, club sluts and worst of all, freelance hookers pretending to be nice girls when they meet a good looking young foreign guy. Clubbing in Thailand and especially BK is a lot of fun, but along with the dating sites probably not the best place to meet an LTR.

It has been mentioned on the BK thread before about the importance of social circles in Thai society and I would agree with that when it comes to meeting a solid girl.

[Travesty]

So I recently have been thinking about where I may move in the U.S. while I keep working towards a remote position as a sort of fall back plan where I may be able to find a girl here in the U.S..

After reading the forum enough I have concluded that the top 3 cities for me to move to for COL and being able to find wife material would be in:

Salt Lake City
Minneapolis
Chicago

I have been to Chicago quite a bit and Salt Lake City once. I am from the Midwest originally so I really click with the people on a deep level compared to people from anywhere else in the U.S.. I am wondering if there are cities in the South that would be on this list. Charleston? Charlotte?

I Tinder scouted all three.

SLC seem to have the most attractive girls per capita with the most that seem to have genuine bright smiles, clear eyes, and no bullshit like guy friends in their pictures, tattoos, colored hair etc... they also seem the most active and outdoorsy.

Minneapolis chicks come in second on per capita attractiveness although you can sense the liberal nature of the city in the girls a bit more. Also more fatties.

Chicago per capita rates last in attractiveness, somewhat expected because it is a larger city. Girls don't seem as active on average you have more weird looking faces, fatties, etc... per capita.

That said Monterrey, Mexico, my next international destination absolutely destroys all three. And I mean really destroys like an aggressive right swipe 1 of 3 girls sometimes it feels like 1 of 2 or 2 of 3 during certain streaks.

Chicago many times there were 9, 10, 11 lefts in a row.

On the ground however in Chicago the last time I was there a few years ago I noticed many low 7's out an about and they seem very friendly.

Just observations. Always interested in any gentleman that have any direct comparisons especially from having lived in 2 or more of the 3 cities I listed.

[Travesty]

Wow.

Charleston is really nice looking. Bright clear eyes, great smiles, good looking white and light skinned mixed black chicks that seem to have a lot of class. No bullshit. Better ratio of attractive woman than SLC. Small city though 120k?

Columbia, SC also isn't bad still a step below Charleston.

Charlotte is a dumpster on fire. Fat ugly black chicks, tattoos, weird looking white girls, overweight, absent eyes. Just bad.

Raleigh is a bit better, not promising, a bit worse than Chicago.

Virginia Beach looks like it belongs in Florida or some shit, trashy chicks. Richmond and Norfolk are very forgettable and middling.

Atlanta is interesting if I had jungle fever. Some nice looking black girls that seem genuinely classy. The white girls though my bullshit meter is going off. Fake smiles, guy friends, not looking at the camera, back turned. Some white girls remind me of the South Carolina chicks but not many at all. The few Asian chick looked weird as hell.

I have just seen, heard, and met too many fucked up people that are from or live in Florida, not even worth bothering.

South Carolina dominates all. Something good in the water there.

[Travesty]

God damn I have been pipelining for weeks for Monterrey more matches and warm first responses from young good looking girls than anywhere I have ever been online.

Getting to asking for a WhatsApp and silence. Or even a few I have gotten on WhatsApp then they ghost after a few days there. All this has been done in Spanish and girls even seem interested I have spent time in Colombia and GDL and studied Spanish. Feel like all my bait to open comfort is pretty good.

Hopefully the ground scene is different. This has felt like a magician fucking with me at a magic show. The rabbit in the hat is laughing at me.

[Travesty]

Destination IV: Monterrey, Mexico

Here are my specific thoughts on Monterrey vs. Guadalajara on that thread:
Thoughts

I want to love Mexico. It is close. Flights are cheap. Peso vs. dollar is very good right now. Mexican girls can be very attractive. Especially in MTY there are tons of thin cute young 7's. My Spanish is better than ever, I can even have good back and forth conversations in insanely loud venues and perfectly get my point across.

I can't love it and here is an example that says 1000 words. I was at a music venue downtown. It was reggae band playing very dancey music. In the U.S. or Colombia everyone would be up at the small stage dancing. Here there were 60 people in a semi circle with tons of space before the stage a few people head bobbing. I asked a girl giving me strong eye contact to dance who was sitting on a bench with her friend. The friend smiled and giggled at my approach approvingly. The girl I approached would not dance because she said she didn't dance. She even asked if I was from the U.S. because she had lived there. She also refused to get a drink with me.

This is that semi cold practical culture I speak of. People should have been dancing having a great time not standing in some retarded half circle like Druids doing a ritual in front of a bouncey fun band.

I pipelined harder in my life 3 weeks before the 4 day trip than I ever had 100+ strong back and forth conversations. 20+ whatsapp numbers with further conversations. This comically ended in zero meetups. This includes girls inviting me out to places, or saying yes to meeting at a certain venue and time, but never following through.

My Mexican American friend that speaks fluent Spanish was again with me. His single pipeline that worked out was a girl that invited us to meet at a venue. She wouldn't answer his texts. He called once we had arrive as it was 30 minutes after she should be there. She answered and came met us inside the venue. She was wasted and with 2 girlfriends. The other cute girlfriend wasn't interested in talking. The wasted girl went around flirting with the DJ and bar guys we immediately ditched.

For these quick scouting missions I try to experience the character of the city, day game, go out at night and go on a few dates to get a feel for the girls of the city, and how fun the city can be in general.

MTY has enough talent that is not in doubt. Though I feel it is a bit of a sausagefest and there is a decent to large size gym culture. Good amounts of tall, good looking guys that lift. When out at day or night I saw couples, mixed friend groups, and groups of dudes. Especially at night very sausagefest. The male competition is pretty good.

At night there were two instances were my friend and I approached two-girl sets. Both times we got laughter and smiles then and one conversation even lasted 45 minutes or so just drinking and joking around. Both times the girls found a way to ditch us without even saying a polite good bye after what seemed like warm comfortable conversation.

Approaching during the day seemed like there weren't many good opportunities especially compared to places like Zona T in Bogota or the Metro in Medellin.

Bogota and Medellin are both vastly more interesting places with much more accessible women. Colombia decimates GDL for quality, MTY can keep pace almost with Bogota, but not quite.

Mexican chicks in my experience are just more plain both in looks and personality. A couple Mexican girls I have noticed now have an interest in Germany and German men. It makes complete sense based on the German personality.

I could see myself living in MTY much more easily than GDL. I am not sure how much fun I would have though. I can only trust my gut which says my lack of foreign value and all the dudes and male competition I don't think would make it enough of an advantage to move from the United States.

If I am going to move away from the United States, I need a clear upgrade. Not a borderline one that is murky. Also my heart has not lit up once talking to a Mexican girl. It lit up all the time talking to Colombianas. Which is the most damning evidence against Mexico.

At this point I would rather dig for a gem in Colombia than try to fit into Mexico.

I am going to go to Mazatlan next as my final Mexican stop before moving onto Brazil. Aguascalientes is scratched off the list because if I couldn't see myself living in GDL or MTY I am almost certain Aguas stands no chance.

[Brosemite]

(03-28-2016 10:09 AM)Travesty Wrote:  

I can't love it and here is an example that says 1000 words. I was at a music venue downtown. It was reggae band playing very dancey music. In the U.S. or Colombia everyone would be up at the small stage dancing. Here there were 60 people in a semi circle with tons of space before the stage a few people head bobbing. I asked a girl giving me strong eye contact to dance who was sitting on a bench with her friend. The friend smiled and giggled at my approach approvingly. The girl I approached would not dance because she said she didn't dance. She even asked if I was from the U.S. because she had lived there. She also refused to get a drink with me.

This is that semi cold practical culture I speak of. People should have been dancing having a great time not standing in some retarded half circle like Druids doing a ritual in front of a bouncey fun band.

I pipelined harder in my life 3 weeks before the 4 day trip than I ever had 100+ strong back and forth conversations. 20+ whatsapp numbers with further conversations. This comically ended in zero meetups. This includes girls inviting me out to places, or saying yes to meeting at a certain venue and time, but never following through.

My Mexican American friend that speaks fluent Spanish was again with me. His single pipeline that worked out was a girl that invited us to meet at a venue. She wouldn't answer his texts. He called once we had arrive as it was 30 minutes after she should be there. She answered and came met us inside the venue. She was wasted and with 2 girlfriends. The other cute girlfriend wasn't interested in talking. The wasted girl went around flirting with the DJ and bar guys we immediately ditched.

Welcome to Latin America..where people tend to fall back on weird distrust issues and not go after what they feel compelled will and could bring value into their lives. Many will relegate to being stubborn for the sake of being stubborn instead of opting for something that will make them happier.

The flakiness and inconsiderate behavior is obviously prevalent with girls you haven't fucked (universal case)..but surprisingly also prevalent with girls you HAVE fucked well & as a result want some more..or even good guy friends. It's not that they don't mean well either..because they do..but just aloof & inconsiderate by nature.

I personally feel insulted (and mentally drained) by constantly suggesting alternatives when the first proposal doesn't go over well..but hey.that's just how things are..even with girls you've fucked well & want to see you again.

The posts are appreciated, because I'm learning about cultural tendencies, behavior of both women/men, differences in city, advantages, disadvantages, obstacles (potential ones too)....instead of posts like "go here..you will get bangs..." or "don't go there..its not good for bangs..and your race would be an advantage/disadvantage here."

[Travesty]

^ Some Colombianas flaked, but you could feel it coming. Mexican girls it seems are on board more then double back. I had plenty of Colombian girls show up when expected so did my friend.

And some went great distances or made great efforts to do so, many of whom also had little extra spending money.

As a laughable example on Tinder in MTY I had a 6.5 21yo single mom saying that the 20+ min. ride from North MTY to where I was San Pedro (the nice barrio) was too far.

I felt like she was trolling me!

I really feel in my gut the goods of Mexican girls are loyalty and not as slutty as other cultures, I feel like it stops there. They lack in any exotic striking look (extremely extremely homogenous as well compared to each other or other Latinas) or any sort of warming and lighting personality in my view. I don't think it is an attraction issue, I got enough looks from girls (in GDL especially).

I also witness with Mexican girls you get tall, thin, very light, with lack of curves. Or short, dumpy, and native. Not much medium height with a huge range of skin tones and looks and the good kind of curves range like Colombia.

[Russianbrother]

(02-20-2016 06:39 PM)Akula Wrote:  

My 2 cents is that BH would be a prime spot for taking some time to chill out and meet a nice girl. I spent a month in Brazil and BH was on the top of my list along with Coritiba. Only spent a couple days there but I saw all these sexy honey-skinned women in BH and it just seems like a nicer, better place than Rio and SP but maybe I'm wrong. The surrounding mountains in BH were beautiful IMO and it's in a cool setting for a city, and Ouro Preto is close by too.

(12-11-2015 01:01 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

I am still not understanding the back and forth of whether or not Russia and Ukraine are livable long term.

It seems 80% in the NO column and 20% in the YES.

Re this I'm much more confident in saying I think Ukraine is pretty doable, esp. the Western part - Kiev too. You'll need to get back home a couple times a year but remember Western Europe is only a 2-3 hour flight away as are the beaches in Greece and Turkey, depending on where you are (Ukraine closer, but even Moscow not more than 3-4 hours to most places in Europe).
So it's pretty easy to "get back to civilization" if you need to for a bit and also to explore all of Europe and even Turkey & the Caucuses too.

It can't last forever but Kiev is so cheap now it's just a great place to settle in for a bit and date lovely ladies.

I'd say Russia is pretty doable too, but it's a bit of a different animal and we still don't know where it's headed politically, plus the visa situation is a bit of a pain, so its a little trickier. PM me for any specific thoughts.

Is this some kind of joke or what?

You are saying that Russia is unstable and it is not obviosly where they are going to, but at the same time you recommend them to stay in Ukraine?
You could recommend them to stay by ISIS in this case too.

If somebody is not up to date, there is a civil war going on in Ukraine.
Thousands of armed jerks are on the streets, who ignore the Law and the Police is in their team.
Most of those "soldiers" are thugs who killed and robbed people in western part of Ukraine, and they are the ones who killed the Police officers of previous regime.

So if you are there, you need to understand that in a second you can be robbed or killed anywhere, and nobody will give a shit about that.

Just because the bombs are not exploading constantly on the streets doesn't mean that everything is safe and ok.


My advice, aslong as civil war continues, stay away from Kiev.

[Travesty]

^ Where do you live?

When was the last time you were in Kiev?

You have 6 posts. This means you need to give some answers.

Listen I live inside a tank in Syria. If I wanted to go to Kiev I would just roll it over there, problem solved.

[Dantes]

Russianbrother,

When was the last time you are in Kiev? Have you ever been there at all?

[blacknwhitespade]

(03-28-2016 06:24 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

I also witness with Mexican girls you get tall, thin, very light, with lack of curves. Or short, dumpy, and native. Not much medium height with a huge range of skin tones and looks and the good kind of curves range like Colombia.

That's a symptom of class/race in Mexico. Does Colombia have the internalized racism that Mexico has? I've heard that Colombia is somewhat more socially integrated than Mexico. I believe a higher percentage of middle/upper class Spaniards settled the area and Colombia had a constitutional government early on in the 1800s, leading to somewhat better social stability. Maybe because of these and other factors, there was more balanced mestizo-ization of Colombia, whereas Mexico clearly still has a noticeable contrast between browner Mexicans and lighter Mexicans.

I know if you go generally go further north in Mexico, people are generally taller, whiter looking. The South has more indigenous-heavy genes, some of these people were mixed with not only Spaniards, but Germans, French, and Dutch settlers who came up through the south all the way up to south-central Texas. I've seen some attractive, exotic brown women in the south, who are probably 70-80% Istmid, 20-30% European.

[TripleG]

(03-28-2016 06:39 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

^ Where do you live?

When was the last time you were in Kiev?

You have 6 posts. This means you need to give some answers.

Listen I live inside a tank in Syria. If I wanted to go to Kiev I would just roll it over there, problem solved.

Can you expand on the Syria statement a bit. I'm sure you are joking unless you are a journalist...