Quote: (06-04-2018 03:32 PM)Mess O. Wrote:
Quote: (06-04-2018 11:37 AM)ksbms Wrote:
This position are mutually exclusive. I have some observations, like other gents who posted, too. Let me ask you first. How'd you meet her, her age, how easy was it to setup a date, etc. Just some factual data info, please.
I met her on OkCupid, she's 34, and I set up the date after a few back-and-forth messages on the site, before getting the digits, where I set it up within a couple of messages.
OK, then...
First, you've entered the worst market. Yes, think about sex & dating (i think in those terms more and more) of a market of buyers and sellers, various assets class, transactions, costs, betting, hedging. Heartiste has many posts related to sexual market place.
The online sexual market place is the worst because the entry level is the lowest. Snapping pics to look decent in a shirt, writing up some bio and replying to emails whilst scratching your balls in a bathrobe is on the other side of the spectrum from doing, say, daygame - belligerently making sexual advances on girls in broad daylight with no time to craft a witty response. The entry level for the latter is the highest - that's why I like it because there's virtually no competition and it makes me a "scarce commodity".* In online dating market there are few buyers (aka younger, hotter, tighter girls) and many sellers (all men scratching their balls in a bathrobes whilst skimming through profiles). Hence, the buyers can drive the price high - regardless if their asset class (tits and ass) are genuinely top class (perky tits and firm ass) or perceived top class (saggy tits and fat ass).
34 years old... As long as you're not 40+, you should be chasing 18-25 years old. The older the girl, the more the issues as well as the check box of all the qualities sought in a man growing longer and bigger - not to mention they do know it's their last call to start a family. For a 20 years old you don't need much to satisfy her - some alcohol, fun, and adventurous experience.
The thing women want is adventure and romance. How do I know it? Top 5 genres that earn the most money are:
1)
Romance/Erotica - $1.44 billion. ...
2) Crime/Mystery - $728.2 million. ...
3) Religious/Inspirational - $720 million. ...
4) Science Fiction/Fantasy - $590.2 million. ...
5) Horror - $79.6 million.
Guess who reads those books? No, not men. That's what they crave. People want what the can't have it. Girls, and especially middle aged women, have many nice guy aka white knight aka soyboy suitors. Why value something in so much supply? Craft yourself as something rare, however, I'd say it's incredibly difficult to do it online.
I think escalation should be rapid and start early on. A high value man takes what he wants and takes it when he wants. A kiss at the end of a date is not from a player's arsenal, I'm afraid (and I'm sure you know it too) You should play high stakes, not penny stakes game. Starting early on, and, yes, kissing (I completely disagree with the camp that kissing should not be done until the final bounce home - it makes no sense to me) early on, too. Heartiste recommends in his
post that "T
ouching a woman early and often during the attraction phase of a pickup, and escalating the erogenous intent of the touching as familiarity deepens, is one element of what I call the core precepts of game."
The above percept is based on scientific research that, to quote:
"All four experiments indicated an interaction between dominance and sex of target. Dominance behavior increased the attractiveness of males, but had no effect on the attractiveness of females." Next time, start escalating fast and be dominant. A man's position is to be active, a woman's, to be reactive.
On a date you blow a bubble (credit: Krauser). After the date, it bursts. You need to reblow it. Depending of the quality of the date and your messaging after, you may or may not reblow it. Each date is a separate episode. I had dates after which a girl would be the first one to enthusiastically text me back about how much she enjoyed the date and looking forward to see me again. You'd think this one was in a bag... A few days pass and I wouldn't hear back ever again. Straight after a date she still rides high on endorphins and the bubble will burst after a good night's sleep. The neurobiological cocktail will return to baseline and she will make a cold assessment what to do next unless you can masterfully inject via text game 'happy feelz'. Thus, two text replies are the key ones: after approach and after the first date. They tell you if it truly is on. Her final reply is, in plain terms - a NO. Move on. Read upon bubble blowing and bursting Krauser's book, if you'd like, it made me understand the dating process much better.
Having said that, you might have ran a pretty good game anyway, give yourself a pat on a back, you've learnt from this experience - nothing wrong with being a decent guy per se, but it isn't what drives women's sexual psyche..
* Strictly speaking, it isn't true, there's only one market, but different "score cards" playing different sub-markets (online, day, night, business owner, promoter, bartender, DJ, rockstar, actor, yada, yada...). But, like with food market, you experience eating duck l'orange at Michelin star restaurant will differ massively from munching a cheeseburger in McDonald's.
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