[TravelerKai]

(03-27-2015 03:50 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 03:33 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  

When looking for quality black girls, look for the ones that have white girl-friends as they are usually hotter and prefer white guys.

Hmm, so quality black girls have white friends, which implies that their white friends are quality, yet if white women are so quality, why are white men disowning them left and right?

I think if a Black woman wants to be quality, she should avoid being friends with White American girls, who haven't exactly set the bar for quality -- the black girl who called the white girls "sluts" isn't far off-base, we all know white girls go HAM in college and throughout their professional careers until they reinvent themselves and find white captain save-a-hoes to marry and have families with, then they go HAM again after their divorces. However, Black girls don't exactly have a reputation for being chaste, they are slaves to 'gina tingles, and as soon as that shit goes ting, ting, they're prepared for landing.

Personally, I don't even think St. Jude can save Black American women, but at this point, that could go for American women as a whole.

You'd have to go back to a time before most of us were alive to find quality Black American women, prior to Civil Rights, prior to Diahann Caroll staring in the television show Julia, and prior to the American government incentivizing Black American women for not having Black men as a part of the household.

Beat me to it. I cannot add much to this. Well said. Government, the education system (social liberalism), and hatred against black males from whites have conditioned them in such a way. You got white girls nowadays with ratchet black girlfriends to show off their liberal values as an arm piece (tool) to further SJW agenda. The company they keep (color wise) means fucking nothing. They either both have class or the both do not. Period.

They may not be as hypergamy crazy as white women, but they still disrespect men in ways very few others do. None of these bad behaviors are better or worse than another. All women here are lacking in submissiveness.

White guys and black guys would have to collectively perform various actions to stem the tide. White guys would have to stop taking in the white women that cheat and upgrade. Stop marrying carousel riders and competing with each other for the same sluts. Black men would have to put their foot down and demand respect or show papers. Put a kibosh on disrespect and belittlement down in public and in private with a masculine frame and no budging on their position. Salary and height should not be a factor. 1 Timothy and a firm stance is all that is required. They don't like it? Get the fuck out and stick to your guns.

Problem is men have shitty standards for excellence these days. Too much laziness. Running a household is and has always been serious business. It's not supposed to be a torture chamber with a safezone inside (mancave). Problem is some men like eating the shit from a woman's ass. The thirst is the problem like we cover at length, but at the same time, we have to realize WHY we cannot be thirsty and how to put these women in check, no matter where they come from. All those that do not want to stay in their place, hang out with your cats and gurrl power friends. The rest of us will be happy with a family.

I think there is progress being made on both ends. You see most of the young black men in the video having strong views against bad attitudes. You see white guys here and else where slut shaming women far more often than in years past. Especially on Twitter and Facebook. Overall the video was a good find. The word is getting out. Keep pushing. Keep writing, keep evangelizing, keep handing out red pills.

[TravelerKai]

Everyone has their preferences, guys just don't need to dish out back handed disses that would be directed at the men as well. Nearly every case of a black american woman being ugly is either due to weight or outright economics of their financial situation. That is the same for any ethnicity. No one goes around trying to find out what ethnicity has the hottest poor women. That kind of strategy would not work well in anyone's favor. Especially here. RVFers should deal only with quality. For any that do not, please speak up so that the others can explain the error of your ways.

[jariel]

(03-27-2015 05:14 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Everyone has their preferences, guys just don't need to dish out back handed pisses that would be directed at the men as well. Nearly every case of a black american woman being ugly is either due to weight or outright economics of their financial situation. That is the same for any ethnicity.

When dudes talk about how ugly Black chicks are, that just lets me know they've never been to Houston, Atlanta, L.A., New Orleans, D.C., etc.

Hard to believe someone has been to those places yet can make a statement like that, like "Oh I don't find any Black girls attractive."

I've been to all of those cities and have always seen Black flames.

I'm not a fan of white girls, but that doesn't mean I don't ever see any who make me look twice.

[DrewP]

Can't tell if the guy at 3:00 was serious or trolling...

[scotian]

(03-27-2015 04:01 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  

Cool. More black American poosy for me.

Fuckin' eh bro!
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[speakeasy]

BTW I thought that brotha with the Germany tshirt was gonna be all about white girls. Lol. He surprised me. I mean if I saw a white girl with an Africa tshirt you know what we'd think.

[Bones707]

I grew up in the Bay Area and the black women out here are horrendous to say it nicely. I have met very few black women who I would want to fuck out here. I don't discount black women but with the attitudes and looks they have out here, fuck them. Too much ghetto mentality or fat as fuck.

I think it's the same for a lot of cities in the US. I have heard that ATL and Houston have descent black tail. I'll check that in Houston when I go in the winter time.

[Alpone]

I've had polar opposite experiences with black girls. Went out with 3 of them on OKC during the past 2 years. 2 of them were awesome and me being a white guy with his shit together (compared to most of the gangbanger wannabees they seemed to date) gave me high value. Had another date with a black girl last month which was horrible. She took my aloofness for "racism" and had that hard look about her which she did a good job hiding on her profile pictures.

[arcterex]

Too much defensiveness. Not all, but enough black women - it's almost like you can see the discontent oozing out of them.

As just one very recent example, tonight I just had an outing with a group; all white, except one black woman. Same sort of thing. Pounced on people if they accidentally cut off one of her syllables; took light teasing personally; responded to innocuous questions with either a look or response of "Why would you ask me that?".

I've met too many that have that hard look & regularly dole out the 'death stare'. I can't really know for certain where that bitterness comes from- maybe its from what they perceive to be racist behavior against them, maybe they've bought into everything they're told about how people sleight them (intersectionalism) and read too much into it. But they have a kind of hostility- it's like a wall between them and other people. I think it's kind of true for all women who are deemed undesirable by a large fraction of women- fat women, Indian women, and black women- a good chunk of men look away for lack of interest, sometimes disgust frankly and that takes a toll on them too.

I've met exceptions to be sure, but I think personality has a lot to do with it, not just looks.

[Fortis]

Black women are cool, but they have been conditioned from birth to destroy themselves: black female hair care products are poisons that cause black chicks to lose their hair prematurely. The other problem is that many black girls are about 20 pounds heavier than they need to be. Many of them have the makings if beauty but they're too messed uP to capitalize on their physical potential. My dad has locked down a pretty black woman for a wife. She tends to the heavy side but keeps herself maintained (looks 10-15 younger than she is) and has a sweet disposition.

I do have my issues with black women's fiery temper but it's the same shit as a Latina's personality or a really hot bitchy white girl. My theory is that men are less alpha so women appear bitchier today because men don't put them in their place. Your dad and grandfather probably didn't process shit tests like you and I do. I try to capture the frame whenever I see my grandfather go alpha on a female sales clerk or something. It's great
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I also just think black chicks STRONGLY prefer men of their own race whereas most men will get with a woman regardless of colour. I simply don't get many of the same reactions from black women that some of the non-white guys I know do. Don't get me wrong. They have bitched me out but that is super rare and I'm not the best looking guy.

Typing this on a touch screen, so forgive any errors in logic, grammar or structure.

Overall point: black women are as problematic as you let them be.

[polar]

(03-27-2015 02:32 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

You know the women that made this video tried sooooo hard to make this a race issue, but almost all the male participants did was highlight some key truths the Manosphere has preached on and actually avoided the race bait:

1) Ratchet females are all colors. (i.e. Trashy people are just trashy people)

2) Independent women kill the desire for a man to protect and cherish them. (Funny how their biggest fan ended up dissing them by telling them that they kill Chivalry with their independence, lol)

3) Women want and crave to be a victim in order to gain male attention to validate their feelings. The other point is to deflect from the real issue to collectively save face for their collective feminism.

4) Black women too commonly disrespect black men by talking down on them and referring to men as boys, in order to break them down to a controllable state, then use the feminized government sanctioned education system to further nail it in. (talking about that last woman's interview when she called us boys and said we are not educated enough) Most of them do this so much that they are not really aware of it unless you bring it to their attention with red pill truth.

5) The true nature of women. Women will say anything and do another thing. That fine as hell thin black girl they interviewed and the last one, talking about how black women can do various things other girls will not do, and submissiveness, but are not shy to acknowledge that they would never do it themselves, even though they are fully cognizant that they know what would keep a man. (the pretty one talked about there is nothing wrong with independent women despite acknowledgement of submissiveness being a factor)

6) Male thirst drives and fuels bad female behavior. A handful of guys in the video "like everything". They were ready to even fuck the film makers from the glint in their eyes. These desperate males give women enough narcissistic supply, to further fuel the system. If it were possible to choke the fuel source off, most would drop the attitude. That or a wide scale war cutting the supply of all men for that matter.

7) All men almost 99%, want a sweet and feminine woman because that is what appeals to our nature. Women seem to be easier to reject their nature (most of it at least, alpha cock carosels, etc.) and buy into the lie of feminism.

8) Women are hyper competitive with each other. The last girl demonstrates that as she basically goes very un-PC by calling white women slutty compared to black women. With friends like these.....

I was about to copy and paste this very comment from YouTube and ask "which one of y'all write this?"





Bottom line is, most of these guys complaining about ratchets were really complaining about American women, with the same arguments as about white American chicks - vapid, "strong and independent", etc.

[rhodey]

(03-27-2015 05:24 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(03-27-2015 05:14 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Everyone has their preferences, guys just don't need to dish out back handed pisses that would be directed at the men as well. Nearly every case of a black american woman being ugly is either due to weight or outright economics of their financial situation. That is the same for any ethnicity.

When dudes talk about how ugly Black chicks are, that just lets me know they've never been to Houston, Atlanta, L.A., New Orleans, D.C., etc.

Hard to believe someone has been to those places yet can make a statement like that, like "Oh I don't find any Black girls attractive."

I've been to all of those cities and have always seen Black flames.

I'm not a fan of white girls, but that doesn't mean I don't ever see any who make me look twice.

In my opinion, for some folks beauty is a "zero sum equation". It's not about objectivity , it's more of an ideology. Acknowledging beauty from other races threatens that ideology.

Funny thing is that African DNA has the most genetic variance. That means we can and do look like everything and everybody.

[jariel]

(03-28-2015 10:03 AM)rhodey Wrote:  

In my opinion, for some folks beauty is a "zero sum equation". It's not about objectivity , it's more of an ideology. Acknowledging beauty from other races threatens that ideology.

Funny thing is that African DNA has the most genetic variance. That means we can and do look like everything and everybody.

[Aliblahba]

I look beyond skin color for attraction. What matters to me is what's on a girls inside. Mainly my dick.

[Game_Started]

Like one of the dudes in the videos, I would not date an american black girl. I would and have dated caribbean black and central/south american black girls. It's cultural, not racial.

BTW, peep Bernie Mac at the 4:50 mark.

[Bones707]

(03-28-2015 03:14 PM)Game_Started Wrote:  

Like one of the dudes in the videos, I would not date an american black girl. I would and have dated caribbean black and central/south american black girls. It's cultural, not racial.

BTW, peep Bernie Mac at the 4:50 mark.

^this post. I feel the same exact way.

[samsamsam]

(03-27-2015 05:08 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Problem is men have shitty standards for excellence these days. Too much laziness. Running a household is and has always been serious business. It's not supposed to be a torture chamber with a safezone inside (mancave). Problem is some men like eating the shit from a woman's ass. The thirst is the problem like we cover at length, but at the same time, we have to realize WHY we cannot be thirsty and how to put these women in check, no matter where they come from. All those that do not want to stay in their place, hang out with your cats and gurrl power friends. The rest of us will be happy with a family.

100% agree.

I understand that there are some differences between chicks of different backgrounds (asian, black, white, latin etc.) But if they grew up in the US they have a lot in common also. Any chick who is in shape (even if she isn't pretty) and young is getting a lot of attention. But women can always get some attention, I see fat chicks who are married to normal looking dudes.

The problem is on us for letting it get out of hand.

It is like that prisoner's dilemma. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

Quote:

Two members of a criminal gang are arrested and imprisoned. Each prisoner is in solitary confinement with no means of speaking to or exchanging messages with the other. The prosecutors do not have enough evidence to convict the pair on the principal charge. They hope to get both sentenced to a year in prison on a lesser charge. Simultaneously, the prosecutors offer each prisoner a Faustian bargain. Each prisoner is given the opportunity either to: betray the other by testifying that the other committed the crime, or to cooperate with the other by remaining silent. Here is the offer:
If A and B each betray the other, each of them serves 2 years in prison
If A betrays B but B remains silent, A will be set free and B will serve 3 years in prison (and vice versa)
If A and B both remain silent, both of them will only serve 1 year in prison (on the lesser charge)

Just some fucker has to lower his standards give in and BOOM we have 49er's (girls who are 4s thinking they are 9s). All because some beta chump couldn't exercise some discipline. And stop chasing fatties that is the worse sin. A fat chick who has your kid because you went raw, is not going to be a very good mom. No discipline, lazy, etc how are those good motherly qualities?

[Tuthmosis]

(03-28-2015 03:14 PM)Game_Started Wrote:  

BTW, peep Bernie Mac at the 4:50 mark.

(03-27-2015 05:47 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

BTW I thought that brotha with the Germany tshirt was gonna be all about white girls. Lol. He surprised me. I mean if I saw a white girl with an Africa tshirt you know what we'd think.

We don't use textspeak on this forum. Write right.

[lskdfjldsf]

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When dudes talk about how ugly Black chicks are, that just lets me know they've never been to Houston, Atlanta, L.A., New Orleans, D.C., etc.

The boner knows what it wants and does not want. Probably the only part of us capable of viewing something completely objectively.

[jariel]

(03-28-2015 04:12 PM)Blick Mang Wrote:  

The boner knows what it wants and does not want. Probably the only part of us capable of viewing something completely objectively.

Eh, I'm not a fan of hypotheticals, if she was in a dude's room, and he didn't want to hit it because she's Black, then he and his dick have uncorrectable issues.

Some of these guys talking that yang have never been in up close and personal situations with attractive Black girls.

[Excelsior]

1. Me and that dude at 1:20 are right in the same boat. I like black women, but I don't think I'll be dating a black American girl (or even just sleeping with one, frankly - I've still yet to do even that several years into my twenties, and I foresee no change on the horizon in that regard). As he said, "too many bad experiences" - lots of effort, zero success, and each and every effort has ended in a terribly awkward fashion. My starts with educated black American women tend to be better than most (they give strong initial interest), but I can never get to a good end result after I've followed up - once they get to know me for a couple of months (or even just a few weeks), game's over, and interactions are awkward.

Why? I don't know, but I'm done trying to figure it out. Whatever it is they want, I simply don't have it. I just can't seem to relate to them and/or be whatever they're expecting their men to be. They may have their issues, but I think much of the fault is on my end here. I just don't get them in the way I think some other men do. I genuinely wish I did (I'd have had much more romantic success if that were the case and I'd be able to successfully pursue more of the women I find attractice), but I don't and I doubt I ever will.

Life is in large part about getting in where you can fit in. The world has plenty of black women outside of the USA (about half a billion, to be more precise) and plenty of non-black women everywhere. Like a couple of dudes in this video, I think I'm just better served trying to explore those options as I've simply gotten better results with them thusfar. Again, it's get in where you fit in - find people who like you and just stick with them, don't waste time feeling some type of way about those who don't like you. If you're like me and you don't seem to fit in with black American women, then they're just not for you I guess. Move on, there are other choices for you. That's all you can do.

2. A couple of these dudes need to stop caping. Dude with the dreads was doing a nice black nationalist stick trying to be the conscious brother who would be there for all the sistas no matter what. We get it, bro, you're the "African King" fighting for your "Queens" at all costs. Have at it. That cape is heavy, I guess somebody has to wear it and go save all of these women regardless of whether or not they actually deserve it.




The one old dude at the end was the worst. Talking about "yeah, there are these problems with these women, but if you're a strong man that shouldn't be a problem for you!"

As if getting weary of any of the legitimate concerns expressed by dudes in this video (any many other dudes in other places) means you're weak. As if you have some sort of obligation as a strong man to deal with more trouble than you need to deal with (because people who act poorly are somehow entitled to your effort and energy, such that they can drain it unnecessarily and you ought to just take it). As if the issues these women have (which he's admitting are legit) are even worth tolerating in the first place such that dealing with them makes you "stronger", and not "weaker" as a result of the unnecessary fatigue associated with the fight.

In short, this silly old simp's conclusion is that black women should be able to behave in ANY type of way absent criticism (because even their worst behavior is "strength"), and if you have an issue with it YOU are the problem (because you're too weak to handle their "strength").



This dude takes every L available for preaching that fuckery.




Let me stop.

[Clemmo]

Girl at 4:18 "Maybe, Black Guys are just intimidated by a Black Woman's Independence"



Which is one of the largest reasons why a large number of Black American and American women in general are pain in the ass to deal with. The lack of a nurturing nature. Basically offering little else but the P.

When I see FOB Mexican women out here in LA. They tend to lack that cunty entitlement attitude than American women of all races tend to have whats shown in the video.

[TigerMandingo]

(03-28-2015 09:37 PM)Clemmo Wrote:  

Girl at 4:18 "Maybe, Black Guys are just intimidated by a Black Woman's Independence"

You'll see it on online profiles, too. "if you're intimidated by yada yada yada...don't even bother messaging me"

One fat nasty chick came up with the "intimidated" phrase and now you have a legion of dumb broads using it wherever they go. They don't even BELIEVE it. But they repeat it anyway because they are fucking herd animals with zero capacity for critical thought.

Bitch, the only thing I am intimidated by is the thought of you being the mother of my children. Cunt.

[TravelerKai]

(03-28-2015 11:56 PM)Cunnilinguist Wrote:  

(03-28-2015 09:37 PM)Clemmo Wrote:  

Girl at 4:18 "Maybe, Black Guys are just intimidated by a Black Woman's Independence"

You'll see it on online profiles, too. "if you're intimidated by yada yada yada...don't even bother messaging me"

One fat nasty chick came up with the "intimidated" phrase and now you have a legion of dumb broads using it wherever they go. They don't even BELIEVE it. But they repeat it anyway because they are fucking herd animals with zero capacity for critical thought.

Bitch, the only thing I am intimidated by is the thought of you being the mother of my children. Cunt.

[RougeNoir]

(03-27-2015 05:38 PM)scotian Wrote:  

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Nothing wrong with some midnight black! But is she really American? Or Canadian, or Colombian, since you always seem to be traveling.

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The problems with American black women:
1. More than 50% are overweight/obese
2. Weave can sometimes stink (I'm not anti-weave per se) and pussy stinks sometimes
3. 7s+ are flaky and can be bitchy (not the case in Dallas for some reason)
4. Lots of the same problems in mainstream America: too much makeup, Tattoos everywhere (oftentimes the name of the "baby daddy"), early single-motherhood, potty-mouth (dropping f bombs, n words, b words), etc

The benefits of American black women:
1. They can dance
2. Some can even shake that ass with your dick inside
3. When they're 8.5+, there aren't many women of other races/ethnicities who can compete (my opinion)

As is everything else in life, dating American black women has its pros and cons. If you're down to get involved, cool. If not, even better for me.