[Merenguero]

(10-06-2014 07:26 PM)LeBeau Wrote:  

If you guys still think G is Rob Wiser after all your posts here, and after how badly misinformed some of the other "unmaskings" have been (i.e. Fisto, 20nation) I really question your critical thinking.

Don't forget the Tuthmosis "unmasking." Someone at the Naughty Nomad Forum just posted another picture of "Tuthmosis."

[Deluge]

If that dude actually is G (which I doubt if it's coming from puahate) then it is NOT cool to publicly post his name and image on the forum.

[Hades]

I don't like to see somebody get exposed as a whoremonger but this is good for the overall integrity of the forum.

[Sherman]

All this drama is time consuming. I don't have time anymore to watch my Mexican telenovelas.

[TripleG]

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of GK, or at least hear more about this by now infamous meeting with Roosh. There must have been more to the meeting than just P4P talk from GK, no?

[TripleG]

Btw, I was just reading the Poland thread and GK's description of his meeting with Roosh when I came across this recent post:

"Today a very bad hangover and vertigo.I almost fell down at hotel.Maybe some Poles behind us put sth in my beer because they did not like me fingering the girl on the dance floor.Anyway I feel very weird.At the train for the 12 hour ride to Germany.
Yesterday at breakfast at hotel a girl forgot to wear panties and had her pussy in open view sitting with boyfriend at table.I stopped at my tracks and enjoyed the view.She opened her legs further.I decided to take a pic for RVF to glorify Poland but she understood the movement and immediately crossed her legs.Then she smiled provocatively at me when leaving with boyfriend to the room.Ah these Polki. "

Although we all know that GK's comments are false you gotta give it up for the comedic value!

[Soma]

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[Travesty]

I laughed at GK's posts all the time. His mix of offbeat English grammar and euphemisms were great.

I really thought of him as an aggressive sugar daddy offering young girls nice meals and hotel rooms.

I never thought he was some smooth talker that could get a hot 23yo Polish girl into bed for a SNL.

From my perspective I would not hang out with GK at a club trying to get laid where I care about my rep. I'd meet him at a city I was passing through for some good laughs. Could be 20/20 hindsight, but I think I am
being truthful.

I think he may not fit the RVF golden boy trait list, to be fair to him though he never tried to be in his writings. He always talked about gift offerings.

He was a travelling sugar daddy wannabe in my mind, instead of a brothel guy/street hooker kind.

I will miss his writings because I took them as they were.

I am leaning toward you can't blame a puppy for pissing on the carpet.

[POASTER]

I really want to believe Kamaki wears silk shirts and gold chains and has a mustache. Roosh is this a somewhat accurate description?

[Dantes]

A lot of mixed feelings on this. I seem to remember Roosh saying in the past about Greek that he didn't know whether to Rep or Ban him. For better or worse, he will go down as one of the most interesting contributors here.

[Mekorig]

It would be interesting to hear his version. I agree with Jim about that "gag order" instead of a ban.

[K-man]

Yeah, it would probably be good fun to hang out with Greek Kamaki. Not go to the club to game normal girls, he'd probably just scare them away like he did with Roosh's prospects. But to shoot the shit over a few drinks. Greek Kamaki - if you are passing thru my part of the world, let me know and I'll buy you a drink.

Hope the whoremonger reek won't attach to me. But I guess if it does not attach to you when you "shore" a girl who a few hours ago sucked some old dude's wrinkled ballsack and earned her day's wage so now she can afford to just have a good time with you for free... then it won't attach by having a drink with Greek Kamaki.

[Beirut]

I always wondered what it would be like to be GK for a day, and see every guy walking past as an enemy gladiator and analyze his balkan power rating while guessing random nationalities from staring at girls asses.

I must say he was my most beloved character on the forum.

I think its totally ridiculous to think he did it "on purpose". So he cockblocked himself in a suicidal attempt to maaaybe cockblock roosh in case the friend says anything. Na.

That + the fact that he admitted that he engages in that before + the albeit slim chance the girl overreacted or misunderstood (his english was sometimes bad and he makes these grand sentences, perhaps he was referring to his sexual self as a gift ) makes me want to give him a pass, but it is roosh's forum.

I dont know if its cultural, but unless it became a regular disruptive pattern, id usually be inclined to consider stuff like this as a funny story between male friends and not a dealbreaker.

[aphelion]

I think it's easier to give someone a pas for flagrantly stupid behavior when you aren't on the receiving end of the fallout.

That being said, GK was definitely entertaining even if he had a few screws loose.

[Deluge]

Maybe he wanted to impress Roosh by pulling in front of him, so he offered her a gift to try and guarantee that.

[Sourcecode]

Everyone wants a clown...

[Inspired]

Well, this sucks. But there must be more to this story (or maybe not?). Perhaps GK was shockingly different than Roosh's expectations of what GK would actually be like in person. And then GK made this mistake, and it just pushed that disappointment to unacceptable levels.

I loved GK's posts and thought they were really entertaining and informative. But I also understand that Roosh can't have the liability of a poster who may be using p4p tactics. I think it's more of a liability issue than anything else. GK kind of let us know his views and his ideas that some of these eastern Europe girls are transactional and accepting of that. He wasn't pretending to be some game master who never had to use anything but his own personality to get chicks. And it isn't as if he was buying street hookers or professional escorts etc. So, I don't know how to view it all. I guess I could look at it as that the transactional aspect is an element of his game that works. Is it necessary p4p? Some could define it as yes and some could define it as no. Regardless, the decision to use that game tactic when with Roosh was a foolish decision and should have been avoided. It's certainly a breach of trust to do something that increases another person's liability etc. He should have been smarter than that.

However, I do question whether or not this was a problem of a wrong interpretation of events. I wouldn't take a stranger's word and then make conclusions based off of those words. Perhaps there was a mistake. Maybe the girl assumed GK was making offers or maybe GK sort of hinted at something and it got blown out of proportion. I've seen how female drama can escalate quickly etc.

Regardless, the only people that know what happened are Roosh and GK. I'm tending to think Roosh is correct. I think GK's posts in the Poland thread show embarrassment, guilt, regret etc. His posts have a very different tone than normal.

I think he should maybe be given an opportunity to explain what happened. Perhaps upon his explanation, a second chance is warranted. But if not, then at least there can be a solid conclusion from his side.

In the end, it sucks to lose GK. I still think there must be more to this story. All I can say is that sometimes people fuck up. Sometimes they should be punished severely and other times they should be given a break. I think based off of GK's contributions here, maybe he should be given the benefit of the doubt and an opportunity to correct his behavior.

[TejasRojo]

(10-07-2014 04:10 AM)Inspired Wrote:  

I think based off of GK's contributions here, maybe he should be given the benefit of the doubt and an opportunity to correct his behavior.

I don't think so. He tried to P4P with a normal girl. What happens if you tried to lay down some roots (or whatever I guess a nomad lays down) and some dude who you just met takes a dump on everything? Roosh isn't exactly unknown in the world, and now this will be associated with him. It's not just losing that one chick (oneitis), it's about potentially losing his method of supporting himself and a possibility of being "forced" out of the country due to social pressure.

I don't think the guy did it on purpose, but obviously he was only thinking of how he could screw over Roosh to get what he wanted.

[Duke Castile]

(10-07-2014 01:24 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Yeah, it would probably be good fun to hang out with Greek Kamaki. Not go to the club to game normal girls, he'd probably just scare them away like he did with Roosh's prospects. But to shoot the shit over a few drinks. Greek Kamaki - if you are passing thru my part of the world, let me know and I'll buy you a drink.

Hope the whoremonger reek won't attach to me. But I guess if it does not attach to you when you "shore" a girl who a few hours ago sucked some old dude's wrinkled ballsack and earned her day's wage so now she can afford to just have a good time with you for free... then it won't attach by having a drink with Greek Kamaki.

Go pay for sex all you want Kman. Just don't be a hater because you can't get it for free.

[Beyond Borders]

(10-07-2014 01:24 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Hope the whoremonger reek won't attach to me. But I guess if it does not attach to you when you "shore" a girl who a few hours ago sucked some old dude's wrinkled ballsack and earned her day's wage so now she can afford to just have a good time with you for free... then it won't attach by having a drink with Greek Kamaki.

(10-06-2014 02:39 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Anyway, I can't preach as I've also been known to visit whores a few times but that's just for getting off and when options for gaming were not available.

For the record, I have no problem with Kamaki, though I wouldn't hang with him again if he propositioned girls when we were out together, or anyone else who whoremongers. Guys can do what they want as long as it doesn't affect me.

But it's always guys who freely admit to buying prostitutes from time to time that seem to be the most angry and disgusted about the whole shoring thing. Interesting. Also interesting that these same guys hamster their anger by wielding the hooker marketing pitch about doing what they do to survive, which you've clearly bought hook, line, and sinker.

Maybe you should change your forum name to Captain Save-a-Hoe.

[Onto]

(10-07-2014 05:02 AM)TejasRojo Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 04:10 AM)Inspired Wrote:  

I think based off of GK's contributions here, maybe he should be given the benefit of the doubt and an opportunity to correct his behavior.

I don't think so. He tried to P4P with a normal girl. What happens if you tried to lay down some roots (or whatever I guess a nomad lays down) and some dude who you just met takes a dump on everything? Roosh isn't exactly unknown in the world, and now this will be associated with him. It's not just losing that one chick (oneitis), it's about potentially losing his method of supporting himself and a possibility of being "forced" out of the country due to social pressure.

I don't think the guy did it on purpose, but obviously he was only thinking of how he could screw over Roosh to get what he wanted.

You're right, the potential damage done to Roosh in that area of the world could be bad and I can understand why he's very pissed about it. Combine that with the possibility some people (I did) on Roosh's forum assuming GK is a legend at game and with women, it can be a lot to just let slide.

That said, if I were to guess, and it's just a guess, I would imagine GK wanted to live up to his reputation in front of Roosh and I'm sure he tried to pickup legitimately, and out of a desire to prove himself and live up to the legend he fell back on P4P. If he were drinking a lot it would be even more likely he would make that mistake.

I don't think it was out of malice to Roosh or to cockblock him. For what purpose? What would GK gain from that? People only do things in this world to gain something, either for themselves or for others (usually with the unconscious desire it will benefit them indirectly)

I recently made a huge and possibly dangerous mistake where I am due to my being drunk. Then I made another huge mistake in posting about it the next day when I was angry and hungover. Now I wish I could take it all back...the event, the post, but I can't and I just have to live with it and learn from it. Part of that will be giving up drinking. It really does make us lose our sense of judgement.

[Duke Castile]

I think this sets a precedent for someone being banned for their behavior outside the forum if I'm not mistaken.

[rishboy77]

The link below sum's up Greek best. He is criticizing another member, when he was basically doing the same thing.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-24884-...#pid481154

[el mechanico]

Greek mentality:

You can be the worlds foremost expert on a topic giving them advice but if some guy from the village says something that contradicts that advice they will be skeptical and go with what was told by them by the villager.

Also. Everything is negotiable. But if you give them a good deal they view you as a punk but if you give them the most royal fucking you're the best.

I have no clue what he was thinking but it seems stupid if you're all ready talking to a normal girl to throw that on the table so fast but I'm not surprised.

He probably thought Roosh would not find out and just see him pull making him the player he wanted to be but he pulled the trigger too fast and blew his wad with that bad game.

I don't read the threads he's on usually but picked up on that gift thing and it stuck in my head and got me thinking.....

I imagined him in Greece preparing gift baskets using recycled kids easter baskets with that fake plastic grass and putting some knock off perfumes in them and other crap. Then filling a suitcase with them and leaving one basket on the table per "date".

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