Quote: (04-20-2014 04:19 PM)Roosh Wrote:
The general problem is that the hot girls know they are hot. The way they walk is arrogant and haughty with no eye contact. They act in a way that when you start your approach, there is no doubt that you are being judged as scum until you prove otherwise.
I'm seeing the logic on how Day Bang was constructed with American girls in mind. I had the misfortune of opening two American girls directly the other day. One did this dramatic sidestep like she was in a movie trying to escape a bear, the other one said "huh?", took out her phone and shrieked "do you need something?!" A little later I approached 2 different German girls (one a model) and the differences in their reactions compared to the Americans were ridiculous. It's not enjoyable interacting with American girls yet they demand fun, whatever that means at whatever moment they're feeling. It's like dealing with schizophrenics. If only there were little flags on top of their heads so I would know it's an American girl and
not approach her London style, or hell, not approach at all.
Quote: (04-20-2014 08:43 PM)Roosh Wrote:
When talking to these girls, you have to hide reality and connect with her based on fantastical assumptions. So not only do you have to be a clown, but the audience you're entertaining is hypersensitive children who are one step away from crying to mom and dad because they didn't like your performance.
The state of the game in 2014 America is bread and circuses. Shiny, happy, sterile fun bubbles. Megalomania with a pint of tiger blood. We're a nation of narcissists and need the next quick fix before we cast it aside for something more fun. One can hope the hyperinflated attention economy crashes, taking social media and the thirsty hordes with it. Realistically, the bread and circuses will continue as social media finds creative new ways to make people autistic.
Another problem is there are too many dancing monkeys who get addicted to a girl's validation. The more they entertain, the more they think the girl likes them. Everyone is trading validation, the guy with his 'fun vibe' and the girl with her laughs but nothing is actually happening. The "vibing" is so meaningless but people are becoming accustomed to this 'service with a smile' nonsense as a default "hello". If you can't meet this minimal baseline fun factor, you won't be considered worthy of attention. A lot of these guys are clueless on escalating and closing so they become the best friends playing their little orbit game, flooding the market with useless attention.
The american girl is not her own person. She has put herself in a position so she can never think for herself and never make a truly empowered decision. She has her friends deciding for her, she has her iphone thinking for her, and she has all the attention in the world preventing her from taking control of her emotional life. Even if she's 'alone with you', that phone is still her window into the world. If her phone dies, finding a charger may be more important than talking to you.
This is not a war that can be won and red pill men in america are pilgrims in an unholy land. After 2 years of heavy approaching, the only girls whose names, personalities and good memories I can remember are the nonAmerican girls. The American girls seamlessly blend into a collective blank. I can stay here, make money and grind it out for an unsatisfactory romp, or I can say fuck it and finally start my Deadbatesque journey in Europe. My boss is saying I should really consider grad school. Maybe it's time....
Quote: (04-20-2014 08:56 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:
Quote: (04-20-2014 08:35 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:
My personal observation in a different thread a few months back was the astonishing amount of time girls and people in general take to text back (2-3 days often times). Even just 3 or 4 years ago 3-4 hours was a long time to text back.
The growth in text-response time is definitely happening. I used to have a "two-hour rule," where I'd physically cross out a girl off my list if she didn't respond by then. If didn't reply within a two-hour window, it used to mean--at least statistically--she was definitely never replying.
I've now had to extend that twice, to account for the consistent (though often tepid and flakey) responses well beyond that time limit.
Last few #s I've gotten have taken 1-2 days to respond back without a 'sorry' or have texted at 1am a few days after my text insinuating they're at a far away bar but not actually inviting. They want to write you off as 'overeager' if you respond quickly, or if you take your time they can let you go with 'oh he's playing games.' It's high time these iphones come with zap apps. A little punishment goes a long way.
Quote: (04-20-2014 09:13 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Even in Manhattan (lower east side) things aren't as happening as they used to be.
Weather's been shit for the past 4 months, could be that. Also the weekends are rife with big mixed groups, so much unnecessary headache that simply doesn't exist on a weeknight, though weeknights won't have as many opportunities so you have to on point.
Quote: (04-20-2014 10:13 PM)Vaun Wrote:
Last year was a revelation for me, finding day game, approaching over 100x and experiencing the thrill and truly enjoying the ride. Since it got cold, I gave up the day game totally. Now I am getting back to it, and look forward to revitalizing that same thrill again.
The fact that there are always foreign girls walking around nyc is what keeps me going for now. It's still no substitute for being in-country but it's a nice break from the absurdity of the usa. The funny thing is it feels better getting a polite rejection from a European girl than taking a # from an American girl.