[Eskhander]

I think a similar ROK article was the first one I read. Strangely, I hadn't even heard of Rick and Morty at that point.

It's damn good.

[AnonymousBosch]

(08-23-2017 01:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I am a sucker for Science Fiction and unlimited space exploration. If we were having inter-galactic tech, then I would return to Earth once every 10 years or not at all. But that is my dream job - which is currently not available and our actual leaders are not interested in giving mankind an out of the planet - rather creating an on-site prison complex and fully controlled theme-park for them.

I also like that Rick despite his flaws is an Alpha - or probably more a Dark Triad Sigma - and he is not a 15yo black female genius who does these things on an afternoon like in the current SJW created comics.

Frankly I think that a lot of the appeal of the show is unlimited expansion of travel - distant planets and places. For example if you observe how the original Star Trek was created with positive exploration into uncharted territories by a united Earth - and then later more like administrative social justice negotiations with other intergalactic nations - the shift was pretty clear frankly.

My point was simply: every Gamma will identify with Rick, because that's how they seem themselves in relation to the world.

The sourness of the whole experience makes me very wary of giving creator Dan Harmon space inside my head, because the ultra-specific nature of the references is telling = "Look at all my specialised knowledge of nerd culture."



Yeah... he's not for me. That Avengers takedown is Textbook Cultural Marxism in action. Your mileage may vary.

EDIT: This is an obvious Gamma meltdown. One tweet triggers a sour library of responses.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2...him-s.html

[Simeon_Strangelight]

The funny part is that Rick is rotten miserable despite his abilities. Who would want to be him? This is abject nihilism - I like parts of his personality.

Also - the other parts of the creator's personality traits seem to be shining through ever more strongly - morality does not exist, everyone is an asshole deep inside. Even the part about the infinite universes and infinite lives simply devalues each individual life and decision - as if it all did not matter.

The show even in the first 2 seasons had rampant feminism on - for example on that one planet where they showed that a species separated their 2 genders. The men were violent beasts who lived in a stone age environment and the women had created a high-tech utopia and lived in the 25th century in terms of technology. So those kind of things add up over time as more of the Gamma personality of the creator shines through:



But it makes sense - those guys actually want to be Rick - genius, almost all-powerful, getting pussy whenever they want it, having a drug fueled party at times and confusing this with real charisma - it makes sense.

[Malone]

Come on Zel, you can't talk about that episode without the gems from it.

The way women in the Utopia say hello: "I'm here if you need to talk."

"The spider in Sector C is still alive. Plan your route accordingly and expect delays. We're not telling you what to do, we're just sharing how we feel."

A restaurant called "Just a bite of yours"

[BortimusPrime]

(08-22-2017 06:47 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(08-21-2017 08:35 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I still like the show - among a sea of programs that are unwatchable propaganda drivel this is still good:

Out of curiousity, I watched a few episodes of Season 3 last night, to see what exactly this was.

Oh, it's Gamma Bait.

There's no point shitting on everyone's fun here, because then I'd be Rick, wouldn't I?

It's times like this I need a blog.

Oh man, you just nailed what was bugging me about Rick's characterization in season 3. He's turned into the gamma fantasy self where he's always right in every situation and in a position of smug superiority. The bit where he's psychologizing Jerry while the alien snake is slowly consuming Jerry is telling: it's a gamma display of "I know everything and I need you to see and acknowledge that I know everything". Once again there's no payoff in the writing for the reality that while Rick sees Jerry as a predator on Beth for tying her down with a family at a young age, Rick is presently a predator on Beth by tearing her family apart.

I wonder if Harmon was a gamma all along and the old writers they had in seasons 1 and 2 were responsible for fleshing out the characters correctly. Similar to how the old Star Wars was better when George Lucas had less control over everything. Plus I can see female writing staff not actually daring to challenge Harmon if he's pushing stupid shit, and why the old staff would have left or gotten canned in the first place. Gammas are shit managers.

[King of Monkeys]

I wouldn't be surprised of Dan Harmon is the main reason this season is sucking more than the last ones. I recall something similar happening to Community: it was a solid and grounded show for the first two seasons, but then it jumped the shark in season 3 and only got worse from there. If this is anything like the progression of quality from his other projects, it's going to be downhill from here.

[CynicalContrarian]

Trump derangement syndrome perhaps?

Matt Stone & Trey Parker failed with their last season of South Park by attempting to satirize Trump.
Then realizing they couldn't compete with reality.

Whereas with Dan Harmon, his REEE-steria over the current situation may cause him to falter...?

[tarquin]

For what it's worth, Dan Harmon is a confirmed Aspie. I don't know if that explains the season 3 shift, but I think it helps explain Rick's gamma/sigma personality.

[Transsimian]

(08-24-2017 03:06 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Trump derangement syndrome perhaps?

Matt Stone & Trey Parker failed with their last season of South Park by attempting to satirize Trump.
Then realizing they couldn't compete with reality.

Whereas with Dan Harmon, his REEE-steria over the current situation may cause him to falter...?

It's not hysteria, it's very sensible to bunker down when you are surrounded by 100 million invisible Nazi stormtroopers.

[CynicalContrarian]

(08-24-2017 04:25 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  

It's not hysteria, it's very sensible to bunker down when you are surrounded by 100 million invisible Nazi stormtroopers.

I guess.
When even Asian ESPN announcers are potential nazi's...

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-24-2017 04:23 AM)tarquin Wrote:  

For what it's worth, Dan Harmon is a confirmed Aspie. I don't know if that explains the season 3 shift, but I think it helps explain Rick's gamma/sigma personality.

The difference between a Sigma personality is massive though it's on the same development track.

A Sigma can get laid easily with women in the prime. A Sigma can also inspire and lead men if he ever desires to and at times he does. Rick is a Sigma. As for Dan Harmon .....

Now I get it why Rick likes redheads:



She divorced him after a year of marriage.


Note how quickly she gained some weight and cut heir hair after marrying him. Women of Alphas or high-status men usually try to shape up, because they feel like they need to compete with his other options.



The only excuse of a Sigma marrying up this would be to have been married when she was 20 and not 38 - she was likely at least a 6.5 when she was young. He is a Hollywood creator - even if not top-shelf certainly able to get hot young things.

Gamma status confirmed.

He is no Rick - Rick is what Dan Harmon would want to be or imagines he is. It explains the constant drinking and drug use of Rick, because Dan Harmon is known to take legal drugs like Adderall and be constantly on it.

[Nowak]

(08-24-2017 05:20 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 04:23 AM)tarquin Wrote:  

For what it's worth, Dan Harmon is a confirmed Aspie. I don't know if that explains the season 3 shift, but I think it helps explain Rick's gamma/sigma personality.

The difference between a Sigma personality is massive though it's on the same development track.

A Sigma can get laid easily with women in the prime. A Sigma can also inspire and lead men if he ever desires to and at times he does. Rick is a Sigma. As for Dan Harmon .....

Now I get it why Rick likes redheads:



She divorced him after a year of marriage.


Note how quickly she gained some weight and cut heir hair after marrying him. Women of Alphas or high-status men usually try to shape up, because they feel like they need to compete with his other options.



The only excuse of a Sigma marrying up this would be to have been married when she was 20 and not 38 - she was likely at least a 6.5 when she was young. He is a Hollywood creator - even if not top-shelf certainly able to get hot young things.

Gamma status confirmed.

He is no Rick - Rick is what Dan Harmon would want to be or imagines he is. It explains the constant drinking and drug use of Rick, because Dan Harmon is known to take legal drugs like Adderall and be constantly on it.

Harmon's liberal ranting confirms as much. Rick and Morty was bound to implode if its creator is a neck beard gamma

[thebassist]

Personally the biggest change that I noticed was an abrupt shift in Summer's role from more of a secondary character to a much more prominent role. The first two seasons were mostly focused on various facets of the relationship between Rick and Morty, as a Grandfather-Grandson relation and everything else that they embody as a duo. I always thought that Summer was used well in her smaller role previously, but now that they're pushing her to the forefront I'm just bored by everything centered around her.

It came off quite forced to me- forcing a secondary character into the limelight without the character having much interesting to explore in that much depth. An equivalent would maybe be the office, where I felt that the character of Andy Bernard was always much better outside of the spotlight than when he was forced to occupy one of the main slots with the departure of Steve Carell from the cast.

At the end of the day, I'm still entertained by the sheer imagination and possibilities involved in the Rick and Morty Universe, but besides the Pickle Rick episode (which was the shit), I can't say that the rest of this season comes close to the past two.

[Once Was Not]

After I learned of what massive leftists Harmon and Roiland are I was genuinely shocked at how palatable the show was for me. Never would have guessed it after the first two seasons. Even the feminism episode poked plenty of fun at them, not my favorite episode but not bad. There aren't a lot of politics in the show. Except that end credits part of an episode where Rick and Summer take steroids and go beat up "Nazis". That seemed really shoehorned in. Why not go beat up some communists too? Oh...right...

As for this season, it started off pretty well but it's starting to feel like it's all about the character development within this divorce scenario with a little bit of fun crazy Rick adventure stuff happening around it. Instead of it primarily being about the latter with some of the former. I don't want the show to become like the cult following over at reddit and spend every second analyzing shit and trying to make grand thought provoking statements. It honestly feels like more of Harmon's writing made it into this season than Roiland's.

I think I had the biggest(largest?) problem with the last episode and the lack of any realization that Summer is a fucking hypocrite who made a life with that guy in the Mad Max universe then just bailed out of nowhere with total and utter detachment. Much worse than a guy trying to let her down easy and her having a meltdown. Though I think the point is supposed to be the kids drifting into an increasingly worse mental state trying to cope with the divorce or something. We'll see if the show continues to spiral down this path.

Ultimately I think it will get bad at some point, because both creators are super liberal and it's only a matter of time before they just can't resist shoehorning their politics into their baby that is rapidly developing a cult following, a cult following full of those faggot loving liberal redditors that believe the same shit they do.

[YoungBlade]

Anyone else think Roiland has pedoface? Also, won't link them here, but you can find some of his early work on youtube, including the predecessor of Rick and Morty, "Dok and Mharti". Some disturbing shit in there.

[Slim Shady]

The all women's planet episode is one of the best episodes of the series. Terrifying, but golden.

[Transsimian]

(08-24-2017 05:20 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The only excuse of a Sigma marrying up this would be to have been married when she was 20 and not 38 - she was likely at least a 6.5 when she was young. He is a Hollywood creator - even if not top-shelf certainly able to get hot young things.

Trey Parker's not much better, he's married a ex-stripper single mum.

Compare and contrast Seth MacFarlane.

[Delta]

The show's Twitter page mocks the whole (((triple parentheses))) thing. I have no problem with this in particular, but it's a clear sign that the creators are leftists who are pretty plugged into present-day politics.

Regardless of the writers' political views, it's a quality show that doesn't come off as propaganda in the least, so I will continue to watch and enjoy.

[Mochihunter]

(08-24-2017 07:03 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  

(08-24-2017 05:20 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The only excuse of a Sigma marrying up this would be to have been married when she was 20 and not 38 - she was likely at least a 6.5 when she was young. He is a Hollywood creator - even if not top-shelf certainly able to get hot young things.

Trey Parker's not much better, he's married a ex-stripper single mum.

Compare and contrast Seth MacFarlane.

I think MacFarlane is gay. As Mike Tyson once said," No straight man, knows or sings that many show tunes."

Also, I liked the first episode it was fun watching Rick kill all of his enemies in one swoop.

PICKLE RICK!!!!

[The Beast1]

Roiland and Harmon are strange. The avengers episode had them making a sly dig at Israel in a not so pandering way.

If they can keep the overt politicking out, the show will be interesting. When they decide to parody Trump, that may be the shark moment.

[Belgrano]

Interesting contrast:

Ethan does the honest and honorable thing and officially breaks up with Summer because he wants to start dating another girl (with the big tits).

Now, a few episodes ago Summer fucked Hemorrhage aka Chad Thunderdome in Mad Max world, and basically married and moved in with him.
All while still in a relationship with Ethan, apparently.

Then in the last episode, she went ballistic on him for breaking up with her.

What is the result?
As the after credit scene shows, Morty cronenberged Ethan.

Because he totally was the one that did something wrong here, right.

[Mochihunter]

(08-25-2017 09:06 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  

Interesting contrast:

Ethan does the honest and honorable thing and officially breaks up with Summer because he wants to start dating another girl (with the big tits).

Now, a few episodes ago Summer fucked Hemorrhage aka Chad Thunderdome in Mad Max world, and basically married and moved in with him.
All while still in a relationship with Ethan, apparently.

Then in the last episode, she went ballistic on him for breaking up with her.

What is the result?
As the after credit scene shows, Morty cronenberged Ethan.

Because he totally was the one that did something wrong here, right.

I missed the post credit scene. I guess what we're seeing is typical white knight thinking, bad writing or a combination of both. It's as slight possibility that the creators of the show want to show the kids's instability is starting to grow due to Rick's adventures. I doubt that's the case though.

On a side not, did any of you guys know that there is a Rick and Morty porn parody. It's of Mr. Meeseeks teaching Summer how to gave a proper blowjob. It's pretty comical.

[Alpharius]

(08-25-2017 10:03 AM)Mochihunter Wrote:  

On a side not, did any of you guys know that there is a Rick and Morty porn parody. It's of Mr. Meeseeks teaching Summer how to gave a proper blowjob. It's pretty comical.

[Transsimian]

(08-25-2017 12:36 AM)Mochihunter Wrote:  

I think MacFarlane is gay. As Mike Tyson once said," No straight man, knows or sings that many show tunes."

That would explain it

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-25-2017 04:15 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 12:36 AM)Mochihunter Wrote:  

I think MacFarlane is gay. As Mike Tyson once said," No straight man, knows or sings that many show tunes."

That would explain it

Who knows - he is extremely high IQ with a very active mind - coupled with high industriousness. We should not forget that many musical creators in the not so distant past of the 1930s-80s were still many heterosexual men.

He appears to be a former humorous Gamma nerd who delved into the sea of pussy as soon as he became famous.

In our times and in his mostly background position there would be zero reason to fake being straight.