[Wolverine]

(10-05-2012 02:02 PM)Partizan Wrote:  

Cheers for that. What would be the ideal place to base oneself outside of Moscow and St. Pete in your opinion?

It doesnt matter as your options with women will be the same. Just try to chose a city with good roads, clean parks and cleaner air.

I have not been to Ekaturinburg and left Novosibirsk when i was 2.

[ZonZon]

At age 42, I did not start back packing ... but, I did cut loose and throw most of my serious business in a sleep state. I never got-off on saving money and eating beans and franks jajaja But, when you are getting into the nitty gritty in Central and South America, money is not really a problem for most men that have been even mildly successful. I have shown many of my most wealthy friends my life style, and they look at me in astonishment - HOW DO YOU DO THIS? I have been not the most wealthy man ... but one of the "Freest Men" I know.

So, I enjoy bumping into the backpacker community in my travels. One of my high points of this last year, was meeting a backpacker chick in Colombia from Australia - hot, cool, living with eyes wide open.

However, increasingly, I am noticing that I do enjoy semi-luxury. And, increasingly I am aware that part of my attraction with women is that I can provide experiences and things that most men in their dating pool can not. Not a problem, it is a strategic advantage.

[Spike]

(10-06-2012 07:25 AM)IainMuirs Wrote:  

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Why? because "society"says so?. I started backpacking at 31 and fucking loved it

I thought you were early 20s. My bad. You did start late, maybe that's why you're still enjoying it but trust me it does get tiresome and it's nothing to do with society, it's to do with having your own place to sleep, shower, bang etc. Hostels are no good in that respect. You never get any peace or privacy in hostels and everyone you meet has the same story to tell plus bringing girls back is a nightmare and no self respecting local girl is going to let you fuck her in your hostel dorm room.

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Lots of memorable experiences in local chicken busses also. I laugh in the face of rich people in airconditioned busses with tourguides. They experience nothing of the real friendliness of the locals.

Sure it's a good experience when you're slumming it around like that but it doesn't make you better than the people with a bit of money to spend who choose a nice aircon bus. You better believe that if the locals on those poor buses could afford that aircon bus they'd be on it in a flash. The locals on the aircon bus are no less 'real' that the locals on the chicken bus, just people with a little more money.

I prefer to hang around with the middle class locals than the poor ones, the poor ones don't have money to do anything and you'll be expected to pay their way. The middle class ones have cash, will spend it and know good places to go.

It looks like we're not gonna agree on this one. I fucked local middle class girls in hostel dorms in Chile. Hot ones too.

[Spike]

(10-06-2012 08:16 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(10-06-2012 06:36 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

Maybe yes or maybe no. (a confusing sentence I used a lot with girls around the world.) I'd like to do some short trips in Russia and perhaps Ukraine/other FSU states but my mind is set on South America. I listen to Cumbia music all day fro crying out loud.

I have been in all Asian countries and in total 1 and half year. The girls are crazy, the sex is easy but I'd prefer South America for now.

One thing I missed about South East Asia and which was disappointing in South America was that people don't really give a damn about you. In SEA I had people taking pictures with me all the time, always kids running after me, clapping,, waving or cheering. People are super friendly. Teenage girls were giggling in whole groups all the time if they saw me. I didn't experience this in SA much. Although I most say I went of the beaten path more in Asia then in SA.
I went to slums (or got lost there) in Indonesia where children followed me and people offered me and my travel buddy free food in a lot of those small streets. we couldn't understand eachother but ejoyed the interaction anyway. I rode a motor through Vietnam and had whole army platoons who were marching stop dead in their tracks just to wave at me on my motorbike. Their AK47's dangling around the stomachs.

Lots of memorable experiences in local chicken busses also. I laugh in the face of rich people in airconditioned busses with tourguides. They experience nothing of the real friendliness of the locals.

Neil, when you hit up Colombia let me know. I can give you some suggestions and maybe we can meet up for a drink. Cali would be a good city for you. You would like the talent and there are relatively few gringos compared to Medellin. Some good hostels too.

I've been to Cali and it wasn't a success at all. I would sure like to try again but I vowed not to go back there unless I'm speaking some decent Spanish.

[chochemonger1]

(10-06-2012 05:41 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(10-06-2012 08:16 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(10-06-2012 06:36 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

Maybe yes or maybe no. (a confusing sentence I used a lot with girls around the world.) I'd like to do some short trips in Russia and perhaps Ukraine/other FSU states but my mind is set on South America. I listen to Cumbia music all day fro crying out loud.

I have been in all Asian countries and in total 1 and half year. The girls are crazy, the sex is easy but I'd prefer South America for now.

One thing I missed about South East Asia and which was disappointing in South America was that people don't really give a damn about you. In SEA I had people taking pictures with me all the time, always kids running after me, clapping,, waving or cheering. People are super friendly. Teenage girls were giggling in whole groups all the time if they saw me. I didn't experience this in SA much. Although I most say I went of the beaten path more in Asia then in SA.
I went to slums (or got lost there) in Indonesia where children followed me and people offered me and my travel buddy free food in a lot of those small streets. we couldn't understand eachother but ejoyed the interaction anyway. I rode a motor through Vietnam and had whole army platoons who were marching stop dead in their tracks just to wave at me on my motorbike. Their AK47's dangling around the stomachs.

Lots of memorable experiences in local chicken busses also. I laugh in the face of rich people in airconditioned busses with tourguides. They experience nothing of the real friendliness of the locals.

Neil, when you hit up Colombia let me know. I can give you some suggestions and maybe we can meet up for a drink. Cali would be a good city for you. You would like the talent and there are relatively few gringos compared to Medellin. Some good hostels too.

I've been to Cali and it wasn't a success at all. I would sure like to try again but I vowed not to go back there unless I'm speaking some decent Spanish.

Yes some spanish is a must. And that is the only city in Colombia where I stayed in hostels. Lets just say my notch per week wasnt that high fot that reason.

[brianmark]

(10-05-2012 10:50 AM)Gaston Wrote:  

For those who of you who haven't been to Russia yet, but are considering going there at some point, perhaps some of these highlights from messages left on the ETX blog may give you an insight into some Russian females' mindset:

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"Elena said...

Sorry for my English but I am russian, speaking French also. My friend sent me the link on your blog. I am 30 y.o.woman living in Moscow speaking 2 languages, having French Master, earning 1500 euros which is very very little money for Russia. It is my first job as I was married for 9 years and never worked before. Now I am divorced and must earn my life so I understand that it is a shame to earn 1500 euros at 30 years old. I am trying to move, to make a career, to learn and to move forward. You are a man, 40 y.o., earning nothing, not learning, drinking and fucking 20 y.o. poor gilrs from poor russian provinces. What is your background? What are you doing in life when not fucking and teaching ? Reading ? Going to the theatre? You are humiliating women you fuck thus humiliating yourself. You show to public photos of girls who trusted you, to whom you were saying nice words and you are now making fun of them. It is disgusting. As is disgusting your old body and becoming bold head. You get what you are looking for - stupid cheap girls interested only in money. And you know why you get them and why they are interested only in money - because you can not give anything else. You can not give love, friendship, cleverness, you can not be interesting. So all girls around you are looking only for money. But you can not give them even money. So the only thing you can give them - is a good fuck. Buy you are 40, so in 5-10 years even this will not be possible. I am sorry that you could find only bad features in russian girls, but i believe that you found exactly what you were looking for.
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Elena said...

...If man wants to fuck a normal woman ("such a heart") he must be able to give her smth in return - maybe love, maybe interesting personality, maybe super sex, maybe intelligence. If he can not give all this - then money. English Teacher X can not give anything of it, not even money. The story of 250 roubles shashlyk run away is just pathetic for a man. So maybe before juging russian women he should look at himself in a mirror. Or maybe he should try an american girl. But i am afraid an american girl would not even look at him.
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Olya said...

For the foreigners who read this blog and think, that all what Russian girls want is money and don't understand, why they should pay in the pubs, restaurants and etc dedicated: it is Russia, and you came here as a guest, so you should follow the rules. And it is a rule, that THE MAN PAYS. So expect to pay, if you are inviting a girl somewhere. You can think it is unfair, but it is a rule. If you don't have much money - offer dinner at home or bring to a place which you can afford (eg McDonalds, if she stops meeting with you after that - better for you, probably that's not your type of girl and she doesn't like you. From this blog you really can think that all Russian girls are greedy whores. Not sure how X should be called then, but if he is digging in the dirt, then there is very little chance to find pearls, isn't it?

The main idea was "getting laid" - well, he've got it (for free!!!, he should be happy&grateful and not complain, how bad everyone around is. If he wanted good attitude and relations, he probably was with wrong people and/or showing wrong attitude. He should have been running from the girls with the type of behavior he described, but that is exactly what he wanted, so congrats! Its just a pity, that being in Russia, he could find only the bad sides of everything.
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Olya said...

I personally always offer to pay when I go out with foreigners (they usually refuse - probably well trained by former girlfriends As well i think if man invites me to some really expensive place, then he probably can afford that and I wouldn't offer to pay.

When i was in long term relations, to be frank, i didn't offer to pay, when we went out. He was American guy with 10K USD salary, so he was paying all the time, which didn't seem to bother him. If his salary was more like mine, then i would probably also pay.

As for average salary, this will probably sound not nice, but i don't think either Lena or i would meet with the guy who is permanently getting so much lower salary than we do. Permanent salary like that would mean either 1) he is a student 2) he has lower education than i have (eg he is a driver) 3) he has a good education but he just didn't fit into this life. In cases 1 he is probably too young for me, in case 2 he is not the right person for me (though he can be very nice), as i need someone who will be better or at least not worse than i, in case 3 - he is a looser, which is very sad.

If you are dating with girl and all what she wants is to go out to restaurants and bars every evening, i would start thinking, what exactly she wants from you and whether she likes to be with you there or she just likes to eat in nice places. Dinner at home can be as nice as in restaurant, sometimes even nicer.
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Olya said...

What is more important, no one likes angry sarcastic people hating everyone around. So until this changes, all the changes in your material status are not important. Other important things: What is your education? In which University you studied? Do you have your teaching certificate? I hope you do have all of that. What are you doing in your free time? How many exhibitions you visited? Do you go to theater? Are you interested in history? Reading books? What are your interests except tits/drinking beer/cheap girls? I don't see it from this blog (just look at the labels...).
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Olya said...

As i said, Russia gives lots of opportunities - go study English and you will find a job in better company, your salary will rise, prove that you know more, than others do, that you are a valuable employee. if you are lazy, it is easy to tell that this is "average". What i am saying is that there is always a way to improve yourself and your life. And "average poorness" is for losers, pls don't beat me for that... Again, i am talking about men/women 30-45 y.o. This is the age, when evth is possible and you and only you can take your life under control and responsible for it.

Do you know many women, who would tell you that money is not important at all and will agree to live with you under the bridge? Those who tell you so are either the ones living in a dreamworld or are the posers... Or maybe she is living under the bridge too. Everyone wants to live not worse, than he/she is living right now. I am not an exception.
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Olya said...

I will say that i don't believe in love from the first sight as it is shown in the films, at least when you are 30yo. I do believe that you meet a person and like him a lot, feel attracted to him, then you communicate and see, whether you have common interests, whether you can get along, his attitude towards you. All those things are important. And this is a base for long happy relations for me.
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Elena said...

When i meet a man i am interested in his personality and yes, sometimes i invited him to a bar or resto and pay for him. It is not a problem for me and thus i also want to show him that i am his equal (that is why i have problems with russian men - they are used to dominate women which i do not appreciate). When i met my boyfriend - i told him directly that everything i need from him is sex and no serious relations as i have no time and energy on this. So he thought i am a whore )) But he was so nice to me that I forgot about bitchy behavior pretty fast. He is very ill, at the beginning i didn't know about it. And now i can't leave him because i will never respect myself after this. Why i told you all this - i want you to understand that if you want to fuck whores - you will fuck whores, if you want to be loved - you will find this. You can not treat women like whores and wait something better in return. And yes, money counts )) I am just back from vacation where I was with my kids. 70 000 roubles for 5 days in 2 star hotel - please do not tell me after this that money doesn't count !!!!"

What is the name of the blog. I'd like to see it. Thanks!

[jackson.henley]

(10-06-2012 10:10 PM)brianmark Wrote:  

What is the name of the blog. I'd like to see it. Thanks!

http://englishteacherx.blogspot.com/ (i think)

[Partizan]

(10-05-2012 07:03 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(10-04-2012 02:52 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

What is your opinion about Belgorod,Krasnodar,Rostov,Ulyanovsk?I was for one week in southern Russia and did not like the situation much though the women are hot.

As a general rule i dislike the provinces as they are boring beyond 5 days, have poor infrastructure, the locals have a redneck mentality, more liars/mentally unstable people to deal with, people more stupid/slow thinkers, depressing atmosphere, overly conservative girls with a 1950s mentality to dating, crap nightlife, and the cities are devoid of single girls over the age of 22.

In the provinces you are essentially hunting students, which for a 35yr old (myself) is too limiting.

Krasnodar and Rostov has amazing girls but the overall experience is unpleasant due to the presence of many Armenian and Caucasus immigrants as well as Turkish sex tourists. There is a strong cultural divide between the Russians and Caucasus muslims. Gang violence, girls scared to go out, general feeling of tension. The militia in this region is very corrupt as well. When i was in Krasnodar there was a serial killer active so you can imagine how standoffish the girls were with respect to day game.

Belgorod was the only city in Russia that did not have beautiful women.

Ulyanovsk is probably the easiest city in Russia to get a girls phone number, but once again as the city is so small you will die of boredom beyond 5 days. The centre consists of 2 streets. Its a place to find a wife not the place to operate as an anonymous player.

Funny that you mentioned Ulyanovsk, i had a peek on mamba and the talent that is on offer there is just off the charts. Even the MILFS are hot.

[ZonZon]

Yes, a little Spanish is necessary ... but, only a little. AND, there is a unique "game" that works in Colombia (PSST - dont try to pick up at night)

Ukraine, IMO is a different situation. If you are a foreigner, it is true the game is on you. There is no "element of surprise." There is a definite feeling of "transaction" in the air. However, if you are looking for a quality woman, intelligent, educated, with some inner fiber (not a whore) ... and able to follow the rules of the road (not be taken advantage of like a fucking mule), then it can be a gold mine.

Very beautiful women of quality of screwed there once they are over 30 years of age. If they have a child, it is even worse. There is the angle

[EPMD]

(10-07-2012 10:31 AM)ZonZon Wrote:  

Yes, a little Spanish is necessary ... but, only a little. AND, there is a unique "game" that works in Colombia (PSST - dont try to pick up at night)

Ukraine, IMO is a different situation. If you are a foreigner, it is true the game is on you. There is no "element of surprise." There is a definite feeling of "transaction" in the air. However, if you are looking for a quality woman, intelligent, educated, with some inner fiber (not a whore) ... and able to follow the rules of the road (not be taken advantage of like a fucking mule), then it can be a gold mine.

Very beautiful women of quality of screwed there once they are over 30 years of age. If they have a child, it is even worse. There is the angle

I personally don't find Ukrainian women to be especially intelligent. And as far as Education goes, many of these girls are paying their way to exam success.

I also think that most of them have inner nothingness, very dull and boring even when they can speak decent English.

[jimukr104]

(10-07-2012 02:59 PM)EPMD Wrote:  

(10-07-2012 10:31 AM)ZonZon Wrote:  

Yes, a little Spanish is necessary ... but, only a little. AND, there is a unique "game" that works in Colombia (PSST - dont try to pick up at night)

Ukraine, IMO is a different situation. If you are a foreigner, it is true the game is on you. There is no "element of surprise." There is a definite feeling of "transaction" in the air. However, if you are looking for a quality woman, intelligent, educated, with some inner fiber (not a whore) ... and able to follow the rules of the road (not be taken advantage of like a fucking mule), then it can be a gold mine.

Very beautiful women of quality of screwed there once they are over 30 years of age. If they have a child, it is even worse. There is the angle

I personally don't find Ukrainian women to be especially intelligent. And as far as Education goes, many of these girls are paying their way to exam success.

I also think that most of them have inner nothingness, very dull and boring even when they can speak decent English.

The normal girls isn't payign to pass liberal arts exams ,lol
We sound boriNG to them also , what do you expect? Even whe n they speak English they still think in Russian and its a big headache. my wife use to get a head ache when i would talk to her mother and she wouldhave to translate and forth . You have to pretend you are talking to a 3 year old due to thier language comprehension. guess what? They are als o talking to you like you are a baby. The way they learn english i nschool is basically grammar not conversational. Kind of like in America i was forced to study Spanish 6 years eve ngot a 95% on the Regents exam. However all i know how to say is como esta este? LOL. my sister in law is the head of the English dept at an Odessan university and I barely can talk to her until recently after shes bee nworking in USA for a bit. my wife on other hand spoke great English. She got a chance to at work and she was a scammer until i made her a women.

[EPMD]

(10-07-2012 03:26 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

(10-07-2012 02:59 PM)EPMD Wrote:  

(10-07-2012 10:31 AM)ZonZon Wrote:  

Yes, a little Spanish is necessary ... but, only a little. AND, there is a unique "game" that works in Colombia (PSST - dont try to pick up at night)

Ukraine, IMO is a different situation. If you are a foreigner, it is true the game is on you. There is no "element of surprise." There is a definite feeling of "transaction" in the air. However, if you are looking for a quality woman, intelligent, educated, with some inner fiber (not a whore) ... and able to follow the rules of the road (not be taken advantage of like a fucking mule), then it can be a gold mine.

Very beautiful women of quality of screwed there once they are over 30 years of age. If they have a child, it is even worse. There is the angle

I personally don't find Ukrainian women to be especially intelligent. And as far as Education goes, many of these girls are paying their way to exam success.

I also think that most of them have inner nothingness, very dull and boring even when they can speak decent English.

The normal girls isn't payign to pass liberal arts exams ,lol
We sound boriNG to them also , what do you expect? Even whe n they speak English they still think in Russian and its a big headache. my wife use to get a head ache when i would talk to her mother and she wouldhave to translate and forth . You have to pretend you are talking to a 3 year old due to thier language comprehension. guess what? They are als o talking to you like you are a baby. The way they learn english i nschool is basically grammar not conversational. Kind of like in America i was forced to study Spanish 6 years eve ngot a 95% on the Regents exam. However all i know how to say is como esta este? LOL. my sister in law is the head of the English dept at an Odessan university and I barely can talk to her until recently after shes bee nworking in USA for a bit. my wife on other hand spoke great English. She got a chance to at work and she was a scammer until i made her a women.

Reminds of this old B+B episode

[Wolverine]

(10-07-2012 07:02 AM)Partizan Wrote:  

Funny that you mentioned Ulyanovsk, i had a peek on mamba and the talent that is on offer there is just off the charts. Even the MILFS are hot.

I tried Mamba to zero effect whilst i was in Ulyanovsk, and i dont remember there being many hotties on there to choose from.

[ZonZon]

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She got a chance to at work and she was a scammer until i made her a women

Perfect I, personally, loved going to agencies (I went to 3). I mean, to be honest, if you are decent looking and a good guy, you stick out very positively. Of course, there is a little uphill climb because of the pollution associated with "agencies". But, a good idea for a real guy looking for a real woman and a LTR. BAD IDEA for pick-up.

[jimukr104]

(10-10-2012 01:12 PM)ZonZon Wrote:  

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She got a chance to at work and she was a scammer until i made her a women

Perfect I, personally, loved going to agencies (I went to 3). I mean, to be honest, if you are decent looking and a good guy, you stick out very positively. Of course, there is a little uphill climb because of the pollution associated with "agencies". But, a good idea for a real guy looking for a real woman and a LTR. BAD IDEA for pick-up.

Well as an almost former partner of an agency heres a tip: do not let them bait and switch you. If they recommend someone , its probably a girl who makes them money over and over and over again, pick someone else.

[ZonZon]

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Well as an almost former partner of an agency heres a tip: do not let them bait and switch you. If they recommend someone , its probably a girl who makes them money over and over and over again, pick someone else.

I was in Ukraine for over a month, and paid for 3 meetings total. The agency did not make ANY money on me - not that I planned it that way. And, they all become "friends" of sorts and extended themselves often with favors, etc... Without the normal transactional mentality that is common in Colombia, for example.

Maybe I was lucky, or maybe i was just being "set-up" for a bigger sting down the road?

[jimukr104]

(10-18-2012 05:22 PM)ZonZon Wrote:  

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Well as an almost former partner of an agency heres a tip: do not let them bait and switch you. If they recommend someone , its probably a girl who makes them money over and over and over again, pick someone else.

I was in Ukraine for over a month, and paid for 3 meetings total. The agency did not make ANY money on me - not that I planned it that way. And, they all become "friends" of sorts and extended themselves often with favors, etc... Without the normal transactional mentality that is common in Colombia, for example.

Maybe I was lucky, or maybe i was just being "set-up" for a bigger sting down the road?

lol, i can not say for sure. i am not sure how some small city agencies work. i do remember a agency owner i n kherson wh o actually would telL the girls to END the meetings short so she ca n sell more NAMES.
My tip still stands go by your own gut feelings not what they tell you .You have to understand if 10 years ago they had to protect tier database fro m not being depleted it has to be eve n worst for them now. Its a much smaller amount of females wh o are interested in marrying to move abroad than 10 years ago so they cant afford to lose too many of the girls they have. ofcourse i am sure to get references they have to help some relationships get off the ground.
Obvious its better than using Mamba where 90% of girls want locals.

[ZonZon]

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Obvious its better than using Mamba where 90% of girls want locals

Rather than much of the hype, the reality is most of the FSU women want an FSU man. Even when the guy is ugly, drunk, with very low prospects for the future. After I spent a couple weeks on the ground, I began to realize that, although very beautiful, there is much "trailer trash" walking with high heels on these streets. And, most of the upper class women may as well be on Real Housewives of Orange County.

I was on one date (it was a blind date made by a woman that cut my hair - I must look rich), and the woman was spectacular, but absolutely not my style. At about the 20th minute she said:"I am an independent woman so my future husband should give me a deposit so I can start my own jewelry store. This way I can earn my own money." Well, that's one way to do it.

Is there such thing as a "diamond in the rough". Is there such a thing as an unscarred quality woman in her late 20's early 30's? I don't know. I call that seach Plan A. In the mean time, I have Plan B ... and that is hard to beat.