[brianmark]

(10-01-2012 11:08 AM)Marco Wrote:  

Banging 7s on permanent basis and an occasional 8 is for me a pussy paradise and I am sure for many others which now settling for 5-6 in lower rate.
I have done many short trips to FSU/EE (as my job does not allow me longer trips), in all of them although I did not get much pussy (full sex) I did far much better than in any western country, make outs in clubs and dates with 7-9, plentiful of phone numbers, eye contact, girls chasing me etc.

Lets puts some real numbers, I have just came from a trip to Chisinau (5 nights), Tiraspol (3) and Iasi (3), I have used a bit love.mail.ru and okcupid, gamed mostly at night and this was my loot:
Bangs: 1
In Chisinau, girl from love.mail.ru, thin blonde, solid 8, my friends even said she was 9.
Make outs: another 4:
Chisinau- 23 yo, super cute and smart girls which I dated 2 times, she is 8.
Chisinau- 31 yo, yoga teacher with great body and beautiful face, 7.5.
Tiraspol- 19 yo virgin(!), 7 with perfect round tits.
Iasi - 23 yo student, petite brunette, 8.
Dates: 7 including the above. All were 7 at least.
Phone numbers: About 20-25, some from 9s.

And this is for only 11 days! My rates were about the same in Ukraine and Russia and I am completely honest, do not wish to make an impression on any of you in the forum, I can admit that I am average looking guy with mid level game, I don't shower money on girls (but do pay for the bill in dates and buy a tequila chaser after few minutes talk in the club)

I am quite sure that if I am staying long period in FSU/EE cities with the correct approach and logistics I can make it pussy heaven - at least for me.

This trip was to Moldova? You thought it was as good a the Ukraine? What is your age? Thanks for the good breakdown.

[Partizan]

(10-04-2012 11:32 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

I'm a 35 yr old Russian born Australian. 6ft tall, good looking and confident. I was born in Novosibirsk but left as a young child. I look closer to 28 and speak fluent Russian though with a slight Australian accent. The accent disappears after about 2 weeks back in Russia/Ukraine.

Although my roots are from Russia i have a typically Italian appearance. Brown hair, eyes, and tanned skin which fades in winter. Everyone thinks i look like the b-grade actor 'Mario Lopez' from 'Saved by the Bell'.

Since leaving Ukraine as a child i have spent about 5 months there as an adult in 8 different cities. Most recently in Lviv, Chernivtsi, Vinnitsa and Kiev. I have also spent considerable time in 7 cities in Russia (Moscow, Saint Petersburg, Rostov, Krasnodar, Samara, Ulyanovsk and Belgorod).

I am a semi successful finance professional and have traveled to 31 countries.

I am intimate with the culture and mentality of Russian/Ukrainian women. They love men that are ideally 10-15 years older than them, are pure white (preferably northern european or british, whom they treat like celebrities) are generally successful in life, and behave like confident gentlemen.

Being 47 does not place you at a disadvantage with the 31yr old girl.

But if she is a 9 as you say there are enough local guys whom she can date that possess your attributes. Money, non-alcoholism, good social skills. Even in Poltava.

Hence i say the only thing you can offer her is the passport and the new life experience this will provide.

This was not the case 5 years ago when there were simply too many beautiful girls that even they had to resort to foreigners for basic emotional and sexual validation.

If a 31 yr old is resisting your advances then you should withdraw and move on. A woman at that age is sexually mature and past her prudish years. At 31 shes more horny than you, and i feel her sex drive will suddenly re-ignite itself once she sees all the handsome successful men eye balling her upon arrival at whichever U.S airport you take her to.

Excellent insight and advise. Thanks for that. I'm Irish, 35, no kids, no wife, no mortgage, in good shape. I make about $3k a month. Next year I plan to take a year out and teach English in a provincial Russian city like Novosibirsk or Ekaterinburg. I was there before and had a blast. As a Russian guy, what advice would you give me or anyone thinking about doing the same thing. I have no intention of bringing anyone back just go with the flow.

[ZonZon]

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and i feel her sex drive will suddenly re-ignite itself once she sees all the handsome successful men eye balling her upon arrival at whichever U.S airport you take her to.

WHAT?!?!? do I sound like an idiot jajaja. I WOULD NEVER bring back a woman who was not 10000% into me, and after more than a little trial and error. I WOULD DOUBLE NEVER bring a woman to the USA, not because of male competition, but because of the "Golden Pussy Syndrome" here.

Generally speaking, Russian EE woman are like Fine Italian Sport's Cars ... exciting, perfect to drive. But, very costly to maintain. Generally speaking, Colombianas, DR's, Cubanas are like Chinese "knockoffs" of these Fine Italian Sport's Cars.

[iknowexactly]

To oversimplify ( divide people into two groups) A lot of "x" people like to tightly control their environment, and therefore be highly motivated by money and the physical control over the world it gives. They will tend to not respond as strongly to emotions from interaction with people. This type of person might be more likely to want to have sex with a wide variety of chicks.

In contrast, "Y" people might be more emotional , more dependent on interactions with other, and not as focused on money.

It's just a question of what elements of your world grab a bigger mindshare in you. The cars, the glitzy body as object, or for the other group the subtleties of expressions on people's faces. One is not better than the other, "it takes all kinds."

But EVERYONE including me has trouble understanding the motivations of others, when they are different from one's own.

[chochemonger1]

(10-04-2012 12:58 PM)ZonZon Wrote:  

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and i feel her sex drive will suddenly re-ignite itself once she sees all the handsome successful men eye balling her upon arrival at whichever U.S airport you take her to.

WHAT?!?!? do I sound like an idiot jajaja. I WOULD NEVER bring back a woman who was not 10000% into me, and after more than a little trial and error. I WOULD DOUBLE NEVER bring a woman to the USA, not because of male competition, but because of the "Golden Pussy Syndrome" here.

Generally speaking, Russian EE woman are like Fine Italian Sport's Cars ... exciting, perfect to drive. But, very costly to maintain. Generally speaking, Colombianas, DR's, Cubanas are like Chinese "knockoffs" of these Fine Italian Sport's Cars.

Except that you can have a lot of these knockoffs at a low cost per vehicle. And with some you cant even tell the difference lol. With the fine sports car you might be afraid of someone scratching or putting a dent in it.

[jimukr104]

(10-04-2012 11:32 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(10-04-2012 10:43 AM)ZonZon Wrote:  

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Physical attraction is important to all women.

I may be cold but i call things as they are which is what needs to be done on a travel thread where people want honest feedback before investing time and money going to unknown locations.

And having just spent a month in Ukraine i have every business commenting on this thread.

You have every right and credibility to post on this thread for sure. What cities did you to? Do you speak Russian? Did you go to other locations? (where are you from, age, and skill)

- I was not bad with women in my 20's and 30's, but I am better in my 40's - WITH SOME WOMEN, not all. I think for men over 30, or 35, the key is to not try to "be pretty" aim for "NOT UGLY." Be cool, fashionable, and let your life experience / success leverage you into unique situations.

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Its clear that she is in it for the passport. Its really the only thing he can offer a 9 that a local guy cant.

I don't know about this ... it depends. Most local guys over the age of 25 are, in fact, butt ugly. Most are rude and abusive, with a lack of education and prospects (most of the universities are full of women, not men). They do have culture in common - and that is BIG. But, I found it easy to just be reserved and let people measure me up ... let the chips fall where they may.

I'm a 35 yr old Russian born Australian. 6ft tall, good looking and confident. I was born in Novosibirsk but left as a young child. I look closer to 28 and speak fluent Russian though with a slight Australian accent. The accent disappears after about 2 weeks back in Russia/Ukraine.

Although my roots are from Russia i have a typically Italian appearance. Brown hair, eyes, and tanned skin which fades in winter. Everyone thinks i look like the b-grade actor 'Mario Lopez' from 'Saved by the Bell'.

Since leaving Ukraine as a child i have spent about 5 months there as an adult in 8 different cities. Most recently in Lviv, Chernivtsi, Vinnitsa and Kiev. I have also spent considerable time in 7 cities in Russia (Moscow, Saint Petersburg, Rostov, Krasnodar, Samara, Ulyanovsk and Belgorod).

I am a semi successful finance professional and have traveled to 31 countries.

I am intimate with the culture and mentality of Russian/Ukrainian women. They love men that are ideally 10-15 years older than them, are pure white (preferably northern european or british, whom they treat like celebrities) are generally successful in life, and behave like confident gentlemen.

Being 47 does not place you at a disadvantage with the 31yr old girl.

But if she is a 9 as you say there are enough local guys whom she can date that possess your attributes. Money, non-alcoholism, good social skills. Even in Poltava.

Hence i say the only thing you can offer her is the passport and the new life experience this will provide.

This was not the case 5 years ago when there were simply too many beautiful girls that even they had to resort to foreigners for basic emotional and sexual validation.

If a 31 yr old is resisting your advances then you should withdraw and move on. A woman at that age is sexually mature and past her prudish years. At 31 shes more horny than you, and i feel her sex drive will suddenly re-ignite itself once she sees all the handsome successful men eye balling her upon arrival at whichever U.S airport you take her to.

Good points! Although I think women after 30 there have a hard time . The rich Kievians use to get mistresses,wives, or GF'S from small cities and villages. Maybe thats why there are less of them? But in anycase 7 and 8's are common like the stars ,however ,the 9's and 10's have no real reson to leave because theres enough locals with GOOD qualities. If women is single over 30 with child,or eve n over 25 with a child that changes the situation IMHO. The local successful guys will avoid them. ofcourse those women won't be quick to bring you int o there life either.
Zon Poltava isn't soo out of the way. Its a day trip from KIEV and even closer to Kharkiv. It always has had foreighners coming to and from for couple of reasons:
1. very big marriage agency presence
2. Close to KIEV and on the express trai n route from Kiev - Kharkiv or further eastward.
3. believe it or not ,thers a famous historical battle that took place there with Swedish army, the museum is visited(i thought it was nice actually)
4. The christian church has a very large presence there. Large groups of American missionaries are there. I remember the city was almost empty one day when i was there becasue they were all gathered near that ferris wheel listening to preachers preach.
I lik e the way Wolverine displayed his credentials, like a resume! Bravo!.
i am American speak basic level Russian(forgot most) ,my grandparents were born in Russia and moved to western Ukraine before they finally left for America. I a m married to a Ukrainian girl 11 years now who is from Odessa , born in western Ukraine but identifies herself as Russian ,like most eastern ukrainians do. i have lived and worked in Kiev for 2 years a decade ago( family is i n night club business).i the nspent the next 4 years going back to odessa, 8 months total. i have visited alot o f cities :
Kiev, Odessa, Fastiv(village) , Poltava, Vinnitsa, Uman, Bila tserkov, Chernihov, Dniprpetrovsk, Dniprodizhinkz, krivy Rog, Savastopol, Simferopil, kherson ,mykoliav, Illichivsk, Bilgorod-Dnistrovsky, Moldova)I know another country). i would have t o say Chernihov and Bila tserkov were t o worst shit holes I have been in. Bila-Tser being close t o Kiev will have some rich locals wh o commute however i think there wasn't at the time any rich guys in Chernihov. i t was really a 1 horse town back then. Alot of the fruit sellers you see in KIEV come from that region. i am sure you ca npull a 9 fro m there or a 10 if any remain,LOL.
As for meeting guys at the airport, my wifes biggest concern was that i had to much access to girls living in Ukraine . However, she would love to move back there, most would if financially stable. Becausee of family issues we havn't traveled to my flat there i na few years but i am afraid if we go she will hide my passport so i can't leave. The only time they do not really miss home as much is whe n whole family immigrates t o a country. i wouldn't be surprised if Wolverines parents missed Siberia.

[Greek kamaki]

(10-04-2012 11:32 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(10-04-2012 10:43 AM)ZonZon Wrote:  

Quote:

Physical attraction is important to all women.

I may be cold but i call things as they are which is what needs to be done on a travel thread where people want honest feedback before investing time and money going to unknown locations.

And having just spent a month in Ukraine i have every business commenting on this thread.

You have every right and credibility to post on this thread for sure. What cities did you to? Do you speak Russian? Did you go to other locations? (where are you from, age, and skill)

- I was not bad with women in my 20's and 30's, but I am better in my 40's - WITH SOME WOMEN, not all. I think for men over 30, or 35, the key is to not try to "be pretty" aim for "NOT UGLY." Be cool, fashionable, and let your life experience / success leverage you into unique situations.

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Its clear that she is in it for the passport. Its really the only thing he can offer a 9 that a local guy cant.

I don't know about this ... it depends. Most local guys over the age of 25 are, in fact, butt ugly. Most are rude and abusive, with a lack of education and prospects (most of the universities are full of women, not men). They do have culture in common - and that is BIG. But, I found it easy to just be reserved and let people measure me up ... let the chips fall where they may.

I'm a 35 yr old Russian born Australian. 6ft tall, good looking and confident. I was born in Novosibirsk but left as a young child. I look closer to 28 and speak fluent Russian though with a slight Australian accent. The accent disappears after about 2 weeks back in Russia/Ukraine.

Although my roots are from Russia i have a typically Italian appearance. Brown hair, eyes, and tanned skin which fades in winter. Everyone thinks i look like the b-grade actor 'Mario Lopez' from 'Saved by the Bell'.

Since leaving Ukraine as a child i have spent about 5 months there as an adult in 8 different cities. Most recently in Lviv, Chernivtsi, Vinnitsa and Kiev. I have also spent considerable time in 7 cities in Russia (Moscow, Saint Petersburg, Rostov, Krasnodar, Samara, Ulyanovsk and Belgorod).

I am a semi successful finance professional and have traveled to 31 countries.

I am intimate with the culture and mentality of Russian/Ukrainian women. They love men that are ideally 10-15 years older than them, are pure white (preferably northern european or british, whom they treat like celebrities) are generally successful in life, and behave like confident gentlemen.

Being 47 does not place you at a disadvantage with the 31yr old girl.

But if she is a 9 as you say there are enough local guys whom she can date that possess your attributes. Money, non-alcoholism, good social skills. Even in Poltava.

Hence i say the only thing you can offer her is the passport and the new life experience this will provide.

This was not the case 5 years ago when there were simply too many beautiful girls that even they had to resort to foreigners for basic emotional and sexual validation.

If a 31 yr old is resisting your advances then you should withdraw and move on. A woman at that age is sexually mature and past her prudish years. At 31 shes more horny than you, and i feel her sex drive will suddenly re-ignite itself once she sees all the handsome successful men eye balling her upon arrival at whichever U.S airport you take her to.

What is your opinion about Belgorod,Krasnodar,Rostov,Ulyanovsk?I was for one week in southern Russia and did not like the situation much though the women are hot.

[Spike]

(10-04-2012 11:38 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(10-04-2012 06:21 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 08:44 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 05:51 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(10-03-2012 04:42 PM)ZonZon Wrote:  

Medellin was GREAT 4 years ago. TOO many mongerers . Too many backpackers. Bad steriotype in people's heads. Only 2 reasons to go to Colombia coke and girls. Other cities are more like the way it "used to be." But Colombia is experiencing a boom now. AND BY THE WAY, don't run game when you are in Gad Damn Dangerous Territory jajajaja Some places are still hot.

UKRAINE? I am not an expert yet (maybe next year) Kiev is a tough place for game. Everywhere is tough when THEY SEE AND EXPECT YOU. However, Kharkov was great for me! I could have made that place a playground. Just like Colombia 4 years ago. But, I spent most of my time in "non-game mode" in a little town in Ukraine. More conservative area in small towns. People are a little leary of being with a foreigner in public.

Another guy who blames backpackers for his lack of luck with girls, I don't know if you noticed but 95% of backpackers are beta dudes who are not pursuing the local girls. I doubt that 5% of backpackers in Ukraine and Colombia (which must be way under a hundred since they aren't particular popular destinations) are ruining things for the rest of foreigners.
Backpackers rarely go after local girls and always try to stick to their own "kind" which means western white girl with a backpack.

If backpackers were racking up lots of notches then there would be tons of books about it instead of only couple. One of my traveling friends traveled the world for a year and got three local notches. One girl I almost pushed him on. Most guys on short trips get zero local notches. Well, maybe a couple in SEA.

Neil you can last as a backpacker for only so long, if you want to slay the local pussy. I had a similar experience that you had traveling at 21, as a backpacker through all of Europe, but with less game and money. You did better for sure with the local girls...I was only with hostel chicks. That is young inexperienced man´s traveling game. Now another era in Skywalkers life has to begin.

Yes, I can feel the clock ticking but I think I can go on for a few more years. Fuck getting old. I have wasted the best years of my life NOT backpacking, now I have to catch up while I still can.

Neil, I guess you arent the rent a nice apartment in a different country (for a month or more) and try to bang as many locals type of traveler. I know I am. But admire your energy and wanting to keep on backpacking. I personally would never do it again.
I think by having your own pad and staying in cities for at least month, it would have been 160 girls instead of 80. Then again you would have missed out on a lot of adventure, which you enjoy.

You pretty much nailed it right there. If there's no adventure and some suffering/struggling to be done then i'm not that interested.
Also staying in one city cuts out one important element: the traveling itself which I enjoy a lot. I have been in some cities for longer than a week (for example Davao and Cebu, Cordoba,La paz,Quito, Rio, Sau paulo etc etc) and I have cursed been a poor backpacker once or twice but I don't think I can give up the lifestyle that easy.

[Wolverine]

(10-04-2012 12:45 PM)Partizan Wrote:  

Excellent insight and advise. Thanks for that. I'm Irish, 35, no kids, no wife, no mortgage, in good shape. I make about $3k a month. Next year I plan to take a year out and teach English in a provincial Russian city like Novosibirsk or Ekaterinburg. I was there before and had a blast. As a Russian guy, what advice would you give me or anyone thinking about doing the same thing. I have no intention of bringing anyone back just go with the flow.

You're the perfect profile for Russian/Ukrainian girls. But you know this yourself having already been there.

Just dress well and act like a confident gentleman and everything else will take care of itself.

Dont ask girls whether they speak english. Just approach with "Hi im X from Dublin".

The fact that you are white European will give you celebrity status.

Russian/Ukrainian girls are brainwashed into believing that white European men are better versions of their own men.

Eg. They associate British men with Hugh Grants character in Four Weddings and a Funeral, believe German men are charismatic and family oriented, etc.

It is complete nonsense but its what they believe.

As a white European you will not require much game or personality and will not be placed under the same levels of scrutiny by girls as other foreigners are. Neil Skywalker enjoyed the same priveledges being dutch and effortlessly romanced 3 beautiful girls as a beta backpacker.

The only thing that will stand in your way will be the language barrier.

Also Novosibirsk is Russia 3rd largest city and isnt considered provincial. Ekaturinburg is considered provincial.

[RawGod]

Wolverine, would it be an advantage to say you were British rather than Australian? I bet most women there have never fantasized about an Australian guy or living in Australia.

[Wolverine]

(10-04-2012 02:52 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

What is your opinion about Belgorod,Krasnodar,Rostov,Ulyanovsk?I was for one week in southern Russia and did not like the situation much though the women are hot.

As a general rule i dislike the provinces as they are boring beyond 5 days, have poor infrastructure, the locals have a redneck mentality, more liars/mentally unstable people to deal with, people more stupid/slow thinkers, depressing atmosphere, overly conservative girls with a 1950s mentality to dating, crap nightlife, and the cities are devoid of single girls over the age of 22.

In the provinces you are essentially hunting students, which for a 35yr old (myself) is too limiting.

Krasnodar and Rostov has amazing girls but the overall experience is unpleasant due to the presence of many Armenian and Caucasus immigrants as well as Turkish sex tourists. There is a strong cultural divide between the Russians and Caucasus muslims. Gang violence, girls scared to go out, general feeling of tension. The militia in this region is very corrupt as well. When i was in Krasnodar there was a serial killer active so you can imagine how standoffish the girls were with respect to day game.

Belgorod was the only city in Russia that did not have beautiful women.

Ulyanovsk is probably the easiest city in Russia to get a girls phone number, but once again as the city is so small you will die of boredom beyond 5 days. The centre consists of 2 streets. Its a place to find a wife not the place to operate as an anonymous player.

[Wolverine]

(10-05-2012 06:42 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

Wolverine, would it be an advantage to say you were British rather than Australian? I bet most women there have never fantasized about an Australian guy or living in Australia.

I do fine without lieing Rawgod as i have the cultural and language connection, but yes the girls are neutral at best with respect to Australia.

[Greek kamaki]

(10-05-2012 07:03 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(10-04-2012 02:52 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

What is your opinion about Belgorod,Krasnodar,Rostov,Ulyanovsk?I was for one week in southern Russia and did not like the situation much though the women are hot.

As a general rule i dislike the provinces as they are boring beyond 5 days, have poor infrastructure, the locals have a redneck mentality, more liars/mentally unstable people to deal with, people more stupid/slow thinkers, depressing atmosphere, overly conservative girls with a 1950s mentality to dating, crap nightlife, and the cities are devoid of single girls over the age of 22.

In the provinces you are essentially hunting students, which for a 35yr old (myself) is too limiting.

Krasnodar and Rostov has amazing girls but the overall experience is unpleasant due to the presence of many Armenian and Caucasus immigrants as well as Turkish sex tourists. There is a strong cultural divide between the Russians and Caucasus muslims. Gang violence, girls scared to go out, general feeling of tension. The militia in this region is very corrupt as well. When i was in Krasnodar there was a serial killer active so you can imagine how standoffish the girls were with respect to day game.

Belgorod was the only city in Russia that did not have beautiful women.

Ulyanovsk is probably the easiest city in Russia to get a girls phone number, but once again as the city is so small you will die of boredom beyond 5 days. The centre consists of 2 streets. Its a place to find a wife not the place to operate as an anonymous player.

I totally agree about Krasnodar and Rostov.It is a pity Kuban area lies in such a proximity to Caucasus and this skews all image of foreigners.
I also noticed that many Russians are very chamelaeontic(changing completely in one minute) and when drunk they are natural bullies.It is true of all Russia or just limited in Kuban area?May impression was also that Slavs are in general better accepted in Russia than any other foreigners.And that Russian bullies bully everyone not just foreigners.

[Gaston]

For those who of you who haven't been to Russia yet, but are considering going there at some point, perhaps some of these highlights from messages left on the ETX blog may give you an insight into some Russian females' mindset:

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"Elena said...

Sorry for my English but I am russian, speaking French also. My friend sent me the link on your blog. I am 30 y.o.woman living in Moscow speaking 2 languages, having French Master, earning 1500 euros which is very very little money for Russia. It is my first job as I was married for 9 years and never worked before. Now I am divorced and must earn my life so I understand that it is a shame to earn 1500 euros at 30 years old. I am trying to move, to make a career, to learn and to move forward. You are a man, 40 y.o., earning nothing, not learning, drinking and fucking 20 y.o. poor gilrs from poor russian provinces. What is your background? What are you doing in life when not fucking and teaching ? Reading ? Going to the theatre? You are humiliating women you fuck thus humiliating yourself. You show to public photos of girls who trusted you, to whom you were saying nice words and you are now making fun of them. It is disgusting. As is disgusting your old body and becoming bold head. You get what you are looking for - stupid cheap girls interested only in money. And you know why you get them and why they are interested only in money - because you can not give anything else. You can not give love, friendship, cleverness, you can not be interesting. So all girls around you are looking only for money. But you can not give them even money. So the only thing you can give them - is a good fuck. Buy you are 40, so in 5-10 years even this will not be possible. I am sorry that you could find only bad features in russian girls, but i believe that you found exactly what you were looking for.
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Elena said...

...If man wants to fuck a normal woman ("such a heart") he must be able to give her smth in return - maybe love, maybe interesting personality, maybe super sex, maybe intelligence. If he can not give all this - then money. English Teacher X can not give anything of it, not even money. The story of 250 roubles shashlyk run away is just pathetic for a man. So maybe before juging russian women he should look at himself in a mirror. Or maybe he should try an american girl. But i am afraid an american girl would not even look at him.
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Olya said...

For the foreigners who read this blog and think, that all what Russian girls want is money and don't understand, why they should pay in the pubs, restaurants and etc dedicated: it is Russia, and you came here as a guest, so you should follow the rules. And it is a rule, that THE MAN PAYS. So expect to pay, if you are inviting a girl somewhere. You can think it is unfair, but it is a rule. If you don't have much money - offer dinner at home or bring to a place which you can afford (eg McDonalds, if she stops meeting with you after that - better for you, probably that's not your type of girl and she doesn't like you. From this blog you really can think that all Russian girls are greedy whores. Not sure how X should be called then, but if he is digging in the dirt, then there is very little chance to find pearls, isn't it?

The main idea was "getting laid" - well, he've got it (for free!!!, he should be happy&grateful and not complain, how bad everyone around is. If he wanted good attitude and relations, he probably was with wrong people and/or showing wrong attitude. He should have been running from the girls with the type of behavior he described, but that is exactly what he wanted, so congrats! Its just a pity, that being in Russia, he could find only the bad sides of everything.
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Olya said...

I personally always offer to pay when I go out with foreigners (they usually refuse - probably well trained by former girlfriends As well i think if man invites me to some really expensive place, then he probably can afford that and I wouldn't offer to pay.

When i was in long term relations, to be frank, i didn't offer to pay, when we went out. He was American guy with 10K USD salary, so he was paying all the time, which didn't seem to bother him. If his salary was more like mine, then i would probably also pay.

As for average salary, this will probably sound not nice, but i don't think either Lena or i would meet with the guy who is permanently getting so much lower salary than we do. Permanent salary like that would mean either 1) he is a student 2) he has lower education than i have (eg he is a driver) 3) he has a good education but he just didn't fit into this life. In cases 1 he is probably too young for me, in case 2 he is not the right person for me (though he can be very nice), as i need someone who will be better or at least not worse than i, in case 3 - he is a looser, which is very sad.

If you are dating with girl and all what she wants is to go out to restaurants and bars every evening, i would start thinking, what exactly she wants from you and whether she likes to be with you there or she just likes to eat in nice places. Dinner at home can be as nice as in restaurant, sometimes even nicer.
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Olya said...

What is more important, no one likes angry sarcastic people hating everyone around. So until this changes, all the changes in your material status are not important. Other important things: What is your education? In which University you studied? Do you have your teaching certificate? I hope you do have all of that. What are you doing in your free time? How many exhibitions you visited? Do you go to theater? Are you interested in history? Reading books? What are your interests except tits/drinking beer/cheap girls? I don't see it from this blog (just look at the labels...).
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Olya said...

As i said, Russia gives lots of opportunities - go study English and you will find a job in better company, your salary will rise, prove that you know more, than others do, that you are a valuable employee. if you are lazy, it is easy to tell that this is "average". What i am saying is that there is always a way to improve yourself and your life. And "average poorness" is for losers, pls don't beat me for that... Again, i am talking about men/women 30-45 y.o. This is the age, when evth is possible and you and only you can take your life under control and responsible for it.

Do you know many women, who would tell you that money is not important at all and will agree to live with you under the bridge? Those who tell you so are either the ones living in a dreamworld or are the posers... Or maybe she is living under the bridge too. Everyone wants to live not worse, than he/she is living right now. I am not an exception.
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Olya said...

I will say that i don't believe in love from the first sight as it is shown in the films, at least when you are 30yo. I do believe that you meet a person and like him a lot, feel attracted to him, then you communicate and see, whether you have common interests, whether you can get along, his attitude towards you. All those things are important. And this is a base for long happy relations for me.
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Elena said...

When i meet a man i am interested in his personality and yes, sometimes i invited him to a bar or resto and pay for him. It is not a problem for me and thus i also want to show him that i am his equal (that is why i have problems with russian men - they are used to dominate women which i do not appreciate). When i met my boyfriend - i told him directly that everything i need from him is sex and no serious relations as i have no time and energy on this. So he thought i am a whore )) But he was so nice to me that I forgot about bitchy behavior pretty fast. He is very ill, at the beginning i didn't know about it. And now i can't leave him because i will never respect myself after this. Why i told you all this - i want you to understand that if you want to fuck whores - you will fuck whores, if you want to be loved - you will find this. You can not treat women like whores and wait something better in return. And yes, money counts )) I am just back from vacation where I was with my kids. 70 000 roubles for 5 days in 2 star hotel - please do not tell me after this that money doesn't count !!!!"

[Gaston]

To be fair, there's other side too:

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McT said...

Huh. Interesting conversation. The Russian girls being direct and respectful while many of the men launched personal attacks and exaggerations. I've been to Russia 15+ times and dated (long and short term) many Russian girls in Russia and Europe. All of them have been fabulous. Intelligent, kind, fun to be with, and beautiful. I've been asked to loan money once and got it back a few months later. I'm not a big gift giver. With the girls I find it is the thought of the gift that counts, not the price. Everyone has to bring something to a relationship. If you want to date a girl in the top (ex) 20% then you aught to be top 20% as well. That's just nature, same in any country. Here's a news flash, it takes a lot of time and effort to stay fit and good looking. If you want a girl that is putting time in to developing herself then it's reasonable for her to want a man that is developing himself as well. Ambitious, moving forward in life, pursuing a career. You guys that are getting down on the girls for wanting a successful man, are you lining up to date ugly girls? After all, love is love, right? No shallow concerns? I adore Russian girls. I encourage my friends to meet them.
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Seriously be practical, there has to be balance. If you want to date a girl that is 10 years younger than you, then you better have something to offer her that the better looking guy her own age doesn't. What a great country to be a man. If you act like a man (mentally strong, motivated, gentlemanly) then you will find a real woman (caring, attractive). There is even an annual official holiday to celebrate men. Fireworks, gifts from women, and the day off work. Awesome!
There is a stereotype about some poor village girl eager to find a foreigner and emigrate. Sure she exists. But there are also doctors, translators, aeronautical engineers, computer programmers, brain researchers, event organizers, artists, and other extremely talented women. They have their own life, some money of their own, and they are not in a hurry to run away from their native country. I adore my Russian girlfriend. When we visit the US my friends are jealous. And why wouldn't they be? The Russian girls I've dated are prettier, kinder, and less drama queen than what is available to them at home. Go to Russia, the odds are in your favor. If you can't meet a few decent girls there you are doing something wrong!
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Russia is certainly dysfunctional on a daily basis, no doubt about that. Of all the things to complain about in Russia, the girls aren't one of them. And certainly not compared to the women in other countries.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Like I said Russian girls have been pretty awesome to me.

Some of my experiences with Russian girls (and Russia in general):

Understand that Russian girls are culturally programmed to NEED a good man. There is a ton of pressure on them to find one. Compare that to the Western woman's attitude of 'I don't need no man!' All you have to do is be a good man and the girls will be competeing for you.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Girls that I knew with a car would pick me up to go out and take me home at the end of the night.

Girls on dates were almost always fun, energetic, and great company. None of that drama queen, easily upset, too uptight to have fun bullshit.

I'm not a big spender. I wasn't paying for cars or clothes or mobile phones. I paid of course for the times we were together and the occasional gift/trinket. I lent money once and got it back a few months later. Nobody really ever tried to hit me up for money or gifts.

Girls with a good job would invite me to accompany them on business trips (Greece, Singapore, etc...). I just paid my own ticket and the company took care of the hotel and most of the rest.

Girls with well off parents would invite me to their summer home. 'Come, use our boat, eat our food, drink our beer...'

Girls I was no longer dating (and not paying for) would still invite me to all sorts of parties and events.

When I was moody, childish or just shitty in general the girls were amazingly patient.

The girls never nagged about my drinking, hobbies, going out with the guys, or how I spent my time.

When visiting a girls family her parents would often give us their bedroom while they slept on the couch.

19 year old girls would introduce me (30+) to their family and I got treated great. 'Please, fuck our daughter, you look clean and responsible, be a good influence in her life....' Awesome!

I never got assaulted or robbed. Probably a few times I deserved to be.
Thowing snowballs at some thugs car because he's honking too much is not a great idea.
Neither is yelling 'fucking thief shit' at some mafia controlled Georgian taxi driver because he quoted at high price.
No one was every hostile because I was American.

Seldom do I feel that I got ripped of for being a foreigner. Most places have published prices and where you haggle they may start off with a nutso price but if you know what the proper price range is it's not hard. Don't worry, they're not just trying to rip off foreigners, they try it on everyone. The longer you stay there the more you realize Russians spend far more time fucking each other over than they do taking advantage of foreigners. Do you want to waste your life argueing over 99 cents extra for a watermelon or 50 cents more for a DVD from a street vendor?

Russia isn't paradise by any means and there's alot of dysfunction and things to hate but dear god there's alot to enjoy as well.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Many Russian girls deal with competition in a unique way. In some countries the girl may shout and scream alot, cut off sex, throw shit, trash your apartment, make your hell, etc... My experience with many (thought not all) Russian girls is that when confronted with the idea that you may be sleeping around, they will just try to drain every drop of sexual energy from you so you couldn't possibly screw anyone else. They may attempt to fuck you to exhaustion so you don't even have the energy to leave your apartment.

Katya...god bless you Katya. I always did a super evidence clean up at my apartment. No left behind girl items (earings, hair ties, socks, etc...), no hair in the shower drain or on the pillow, no lipstick stained cups or female cigarette butts. But you, Katya, you had been watching CSI and you, though the apartment was dark and you were already drunk, you found that one hair that I had missed.

K: Vat is thees, mmmm?
Me: Uhhh... it's the cleaning lady's hair I think.
K: Cleaning lady is blondinka, this is brunetka hair.
Me: Uhhh.... maybe this is your hair?
K: Don't be lying to me naughty boy.
K: You're very bad boy, must be spanked...
*spank* *spank* *fuck* *fuck*
*morning, 7am, Katya going to work, I'm still asleep"
K: Waking up naughty boy, I think you still have some bad ideas in you
Me: tired, want sleep, go away
K: Is not possible
*smash* *smash* *fuck* *fuck* *sore pelvis*

I didn't leave the apartment (or even the bed) all day until she came back after work and re-molested me, twice. It was not optional. Then she left and went home. I lay there, near death, with a -80% sperm level. I didn't even want to see another girl for 4 days. Also my pelvis really did hurt.

And there was Irina. We had a daytime weekend date and after a day in the park and some excellent sex (in the park and at home) I told her I had to meet some friends in the evening. She knew this meant another girl. So with about 30 minutes before I had to leave she crawled over with a mischevious look in her face and undid my pants 'meowwww, I want you....'. 'I can't', I said, 'penis tired, no work'. Honestly I was holding back, I wanted to have some mojo left for the evening date. Irina knew this too. I resisted, really, I tired. But she persisted (it took some work, I probably needed a few hour penis rest) until she managed to suck out any remaining mojo I had. Then she smiled, got dressed, said 'have a good a night', and left without any drama. I did meet the other girl and had intended to pursue her but my heart just wasn't in it anymore. I half assed it through the date and went home to sleep by 11.

Yah.....Russian girls are terrible! Don't go there ever!

Go to Russia. Meet some people, have a wild crazy time.

Now go back to your western country. Date a few women there. Talk with your friends about their girlfriends and wives and their sex life. Try not to cackle as they describe their misery and the bullshit they put up with for low quality sex with prissy and pudgy girls."

[Partizan]

(10-05-2012 06:29 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(10-04-2012 12:45 PM)Partizan Wrote:  

Excellent insight and advise. Thanks for that. I'm Irish, 35, no kids, no wife, no mortgage, in good shape. I make about $3k a month. Next year I plan to take a year out and teach English in a provincial Russian city like Novosibirsk or Ekaterinburg. I was there before and had a blast. As a Russian guy, what advice would you give me or anyone thinking about doing the same thing. I have no intention of bringing anyone back just go with the flow.

You're the perfect profile for Russian/Ukrainian girls. But you know this yourself having already been there.

Just dress well and act like a confident gentleman and everything else will take care of itself.

Dont ask girls whether they speak english. Just approach with "Hi im X from Dublin".

The fact that you are white European will give you celebrity status.

Russian/Ukrainian girls are brainwashed into believing that white European men are better versions of their own men.

Eg. They associate British men with Hugh Grants character in Four Weddings and a Funeral, believe German men are charismatic and family oriented, etc.

It is complete nonsense but its what they believe.

As a white European you will not require much game or personality and will not be placed under the same levels of scrutiny by girls as other foreigners are. Neil Skywalker enjoyed the same priveledges being dutch and effortlessly romanced 3 beautiful girls as a beta backpacker.

The only thing that will stand in your way will be the language barrier.

Also Novosibirsk is Russia 3rd largest city and isnt considered provincial. Ekaturinburg is considered provincial.

Cheers for that. What would be the ideal place to base oneself outside of Moscow and St. Pete in your opinion?

[jimukr104]

(10-05-2012 10:53 AM)Gaston Wrote:  

To be fair, there's other side too:

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McT said...

Huh. Interesting conversation. The Russian girls being direct and respectful while many of the men launched personal attacks and exaggerations. I've been to Russia 15+ times and dated (long and short term) many Russian girls in Russia and Europe. All of them have been fabulous. Intelligent, kind, fun to be with, and beautiful. I've been asked to loan money once and got it back a few months later. I'm not a big gift giver. With the girls I find it is the thought of the gift that counts, not the price. Everyone has to bring something to a relationship. If you want to date a girl in the top (ex) 20% then you aught to be top 20% as well. That's just nature, same in any country. Here's a news flash, it takes a lot of time and effort to stay fit and good looking. If you want a girl that is putting time in to developing herself then it's reasonable for her to want a man that is developing himself as well. Ambitious, moving forward in life, pursuing a career. You guys that are getting down on the girls for wanting a successful man, are you lining up to date ugly girls? After all, love is love, right? No shallow concerns? I adore Russian girls. I encourage my friends to meet them.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Seriously be practical, there has to be balance. If you want to date a girl that is 10 years younger than you, then you better have something to offer her that the better looking guy her own age doesn't. What a great country to be a man. If you act like a man (mentally strong, motivated, gentlemanly) then you will find a real woman (caring, attractive). There is even an annual official holiday to celebrate men. Fireworks, gifts from women, and the day off work. Awesome!
There is a stereotype about some poor village girl eager to find a foreigner and emigrate. Sure she exists. But there are also doctors, translators, aeronautical engineers, computer programmers, brain researchers, event organizers, artists, and other extremely talented women. They have their own life, some money of their own, and they are not in a hurry to run away from their native country. I adore my Russian girlfriend. When we visit the US my friends are jealous. And why wouldn't they be? The Russian girls I've dated are prettier, kinder, and less drama queen than what is available to them at home. Go to Russia, the odds are in your favor. If you can't meet a few decent girls there you are doing something wrong!
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Russia is certainly dysfunctional on a daily basis, no doubt about that. Of all the things to complain about in Russia, the girls aren't one of them. And certainly not compared to the women in other countries.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Like I said Russian girls have been pretty awesome to me.

Some of my experiences with Russian girls (and Russia in general):

Understand that Russian girls are culturally programmed to NEED a good man. There is a ton of pressure on them to find one. Compare that to the Western woman's attitude of 'I don't need no man!' All you have to do is be a good man and the girls will be competeing for you.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Girls that I knew with a car would pick me up to go out and take me home at the end of the night.

Girls on dates were almost always fun, energetic, and great company. None of that drama queen, easily upset, too uptight to have fun bullshit.

I'm not a big spender. I wasn't paying for cars or clothes or mobile phones. I paid of course for the times we were together and the occasional gift/trinket. I lent money once and got it back a few months later. Nobody really ever tried to hit me up for money or gifts.

Girls with a good job would invite me to accompany them on business trips (Greece, Singapore, etc...). I just paid my own ticket and the company took care of the hotel and most of the rest.

Girls with well off parents would invite me to their summer home. 'Come, use our boat, eat our food, drink our beer...'

Girls I was no longer dating (and not paying for) would still invite me to all sorts of parties and events.

When I was moody, childish or just shitty in general the girls were amazingly patient.

The girls never nagged about my drinking, hobbies, going out with the guys, or how I spent my time.

When visiting a girls family her parents would often give us their bedroom while they slept on the couch.

19 year old girls would introduce me (30+) to their family and I got treated great. 'Please, fuck our daughter, you look clean and responsible, be a good influence in her life....' Awesome!

I never got assaulted or robbed. Probably a few times I deserved to be.
Thowing snowballs at some thugs car because he's honking too much is not a great idea.
Neither is yelling 'fucking thief shit' at some mafia controlled Georgian taxi driver because he quoted at high price.
No one was every hostile because I was American.

Seldom do I feel that I got ripped of for being a foreigner. Most places have published prices and where you haggle they may start off with a nutso price but if you know what the proper price range is it's not hard. Don't worry, they're not just trying to rip off foreigners, they try it on everyone. The longer you stay there the more you realize Russians spend far more time fucking each other over than they do taking advantage of foreigners. Do you want to waste your life argueing over 99 cents extra for a watermelon or 50 cents more for a DVD from a street vendor?

Russia isn't paradise by any means and there's alot of dysfunction and things to hate but dear god there's alot to enjoy as well.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Many Russian girls deal with competition in a unique way. In some countries the girl may shout and scream alot, cut off sex, throw shit, trash your apartment, make your hell, etc... My experience with many (thought not all) Russian girls is that when confronted with the idea that you may be sleeping around, they will just try to drain every drop of sexual energy from you so you couldn't possibly screw anyone else. They may attempt to fuck you to exhaustion so you don't even have the energy to leave your apartment.

Katya...god bless you Katya. I always did a super evidence clean up at my apartment. No left behind girl items (earings, hair ties, socks, etc...), no hair in the shower drain or on the pillow, no lipstick stained cups or female cigarette butts. But you, Katya, you had been watching CSI and you, though the apartment was dark and you were already drunk, you found that one hair that I had missed.

K: Vat is thees, mmmm?
Me: Uhhh... it's the cleaning lady's hair I think.
K: Cleaning lady is blondinka, this is brunetka hair.
Me: Uhhh.... maybe this is your hair?
K: Don't be lying to me naughty boy.
K: You're very bad boy, must be spanked...
*spank* *spank* *fuck* *fuck*
*morning, 7am, Katya going to work, I'm still asleep"
K: Waking up naughty boy, I think you still have some bad ideas in you
Me: tired, want sleep, go away
K: Is not possible
*smash* *smash* *fuck* *fuck* *sore pelvis*

I didn't leave the apartment (or even the bed) all day until she came back after work and re-molested me, twice. It was not optional. Then she left and went home. I lay there, near death, with a -80% sperm level. I didn't even want to see another girl for 4 days. Also my pelvis really did hurt.

And there was Irina. We had a daytime weekend date and after a day in the park and some excellent sex (in the park and at home) I told her I had to meet some friends in the evening. She knew this meant another girl. So with about 30 minutes before I had to leave she crawled over with a mischevious look in her face and undid my pants 'meowwww, I want you....'. 'I can't', I said, 'penis tired, no work'. Honestly I was holding back, I wanted to have some mojo left for the evening date. Irina knew this too. I resisted, really, I tired. But she persisted (it took some work, I probably needed a few hour penis rest) until she managed to suck out any remaining mojo I had. Then she smiled, got dressed, said 'have a good a night', and left without any drama. I did meet the other girl and had intended to pursue her but my heart just wasn't in it anymore. I half assed it through the date and went home to sleep by 11.

Yah.....Russian girls are terrible! Don't go there ever!

Go to Russia. Meet some people, have a wild crazy time.

Now go back to your western country. Date a few women there. Talk with your friends about their girlfriends and wives and their sex life. Try not to cackle as they describe their misery and the bullshit they put up with for low quality sex with prissy and pudgy girls."

Mct is full of crap ,lol. i like his imagination though. I mean some of what he said is true ,however unless hes a Russian moviestar hes not getting such a large amount of super rich girls unless hes dating above 40. Als o Russian girls ca n get extremely emotional and have been known to not only throw things but to actually beat thier men.

.

[jimukr104]

(10-05-2012 03:07 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

(10-05-2012 10:53 AM)Gaston Wrote:  

To be fair, there's other side too:

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McT said...

Huh. Interesting conversation. The Russian girls being direct and respectful while many of the men launched personal attacks and exaggerations. I've been to Russia 15+ times and dated (long and short term) many Russian girls in Russia and Europe. All of them have been fabulous. Intelligent, kind, fun to be with, and beautiful. I've been asked to loan money once and got it back a few months later. I'm not a big gift giver. With the girls I find it is the thought of the gift that counts, not the price. Everyone has to bring something to a relationship. If you want to date a girl in the top (ex) 20% then you aught to be top 20% as well. That's just nature, same in any country. Here's a news flash, it takes a lot of time and effort to stay fit and good looking. If you want a girl that is putting time in to developing herself then it's reasonable for her to want a man that is developing himself as well. Ambitious, moving forward in life, pursuing a career. You guys that are getting down on the girls for wanting a successful man, are you lining up to date ugly girls? After all, love is love, right? No shallow concerns? I adore Russian girls. I encourage my friends to meet them.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Seriously be practical, there has to be balance. If you want to date a girl that is 10 years younger than you, then you better have something to offer her that the better looking guy her own age doesn't. What a great country to be a man. If you act like a man (mentally strong, motivated, gentlemanly) then you will find a real woman (caring, attractive). There is even an annual official holiday to celebrate men. Fireworks, gifts from women, and the day off work. Awesome!
There is a stereotype about some poor village girl eager to find a foreigner and emigrate. Sure she exists. But there are also doctors, translators, aeronautical engineers, computer programmers, brain researchers, event organizers, artists, and other extremely talented women. They have their own life, some money of their own, and they are not in a hurry to run away from their native country. I adore my Russian girlfriend. When we visit the US my friends are jealous. And why wouldn't they be? The Russian girls I've dated are prettier, kinder, and less drama queen than what is available to them at home. Go to Russia, the odds are in your favor. If you can't meet a few decent girls there you are doing something wrong!
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Russia is certainly dysfunctional on a daily basis, no doubt about that. Of all the things to complain about in Russia, the girls aren't one of them. And certainly not compared to the women in other countries.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Like I said Russian girls have been pretty awesome to me.

Some of my experiences with Russian girls (and Russia in general):

Understand that Russian girls are culturally programmed to NEED a good man. There is a ton of pressure on them to find one. Compare that to the Western woman's attitude of 'I don't need no man!' All you have to do is be a good man and the girls will be competeing for you.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Girls that I knew with a car would pick me up to go out and take me home at the end of the night.

Girls on dates were almost always fun, energetic, and great company. None of that drama queen, easily upset, too uptight to have fun bullshit.

I'm not a big spender. I wasn't paying for cars or clothes or mobile phones. I paid of course for the times we were together and the occasional gift/trinket. I lent money once and got it back a few months later. Nobody really ever tried to hit me up for money or gifts.

Girls with a good job would invite me to accompany them on business trips (Greece, Singapore, etc...). I just paid my own ticket and the company took care of the hotel and most of the rest.

Girls with well off parents would invite me to their summer home. 'Come, use our boat, eat our food, drink our beer...'

Girls I was no longer dating (and not paying for) would still invite me to all sorts of parties and events.

When I was moody, childish or just shitty in general the girls were amazingly patient.

The girls never nagged about my drinking, hobbies, going out with the guys, or how I spent my time.

When visiting a girls family her parents would often give us their bedroom while they slept on the couch.

19 year old girls would introduce me (30+) to their family and I got treated great. 'Please, fuck our daughter, you look clean and responsible, be a good influence in her life....' Awesome!

I never got assaulted or robbed. Probably a few times I deserved to be.
Thowing snowballs at some thugs car because he's honking too much is not a great idea.
Neither is yelling 'fucking thief shit' at some mafia controlled Georgian taxi driver because he quoted at high price.
No one was every hostile because I was American.

Seldom do I feel that I got ripped of for being a foreigner. Most places have published prices and where you haggle they may start off with a nutso price but if you know what the proper price range is it's not hard. Don't worry, they're not just trying to rip off foreigners, they try it on everyone. The longer you stay there the more you realize Russians spend far more time fucking each other over than they do taking advantage of foreigners. Do you want to waste your life argueing over 99 cents extra for a watermelon or 50 cents more for a DVD from a street vendor?

Russia isn't paradise by any means and there's alot of dysfunction and things to hate but dear god there's alot to enjoy as well.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Many Russian girls deal with competition in a unique way. In some countries the girl may shout and scream alot, cut off sex, throw shit, trash your apartment, make your hell, etc... My experience with many (thought not all) Russian girls is that when confronted with the idea that you may be sleeping around, they will just try to drain every drop of sexual energy from you so you couldn't possibly screw anyone else. They may attempt to fuck you to exhaustion so you don't even have the energy to leave your apartment.

Katya...god bless you Katya. I always did a super evidence clean up at my apartment. No left behind girl items (earings, hair ties, socks, etc...), no hair in the shower drain or on the pillow, no lipstick stained cups or female cigarette butts. But you, Katya, you had been watching CSI and you, though the apartment was dark and you were already drunk, you found that one hair that I had missed.

K: Vat is thees, mmmm?
Me: Uhhh... it's the cleaning lady's hair I think.
K: Cleaning lady is blondinka, this is brunetka hair.
Me: Uhhh.... maybe this is your hair?
K: Don't be lying to me naughty boy.
K: You're very bad boy, must be spanked...
*spank* *spank* *fuck* *fuck*
*morning, 7am, Katya going to work, I'm still asleep"
K: Waking up naughty boy, I think you still have some bad ideas in you
Me: tired, want sleep, go away
K: Is not possible
*smash* *smash* *fuck* *fuck* *sore pelvis*

I didn't leave the apartment (or even the bed) all day until she came back after work and re-molested me, twice. It was not optional. Then she left and went home. I lay there, near death, with a -80% sperm level. I didn't even want to see another girl for 4 days. Also my pelvis really did hurt.

And there was Irina. We had a daytime weekend date and after a day in the park and some excellent sex (in the park and at home) I told her I had to meet some friends in the evening. She knew this meant another girl. So with about 30 minutes before I had to leave she crawled over with a mischevious look in her face and undid my pants 'meowwww, I want you....'. 'I can't', I said, 'penis tired, no work'. Honestly I was holding back, I wanted to have some mojo left for the evening date. Irina knew this too. I resisted, really, I tired. But she persisted (it took some work, I probably needed a few hour penis rest) until she managed to suck out any remaining mojo I had. Then she smiled, got dressed, said 'have a good a night', and left without any drama. I did meet the other girl and had intended to pursue her but my heart just wasn't in it anymore. I half assed it through the date and went home to sleep by 11.

Yah.....Russian girls are terrible! Don't go there ever!

Go to Russia. Meet some people, have a wild crazy time.

Now go back to your western country. Date a few women there. Talk with your friends about their girlfriends and wives and their sex life. Try not to cackle as they describe their misery and the bullshit they put up with for low quality sex with prissy and pudgy girls."

Mct is full of crap ,lol. i like his imagination though. I mean some of what he said is true ,however unless hes a Russian moviestar hes not getting such a large amount of super rich girls unless hes dating above 40. Als o Russian girls ca n get extremely emotional and have been known to not only throw things but to actually beat thier men.

.

you read this?
reminds me of joke -- two Russian girls are walking down the street, one says to the other, "Do you like my new mink coat? It cost 14,000 euros." The other one sneers and says, "You dumb bitch, I know a place you could get it for 15,000 euros

they messed it up, usually its a joke about how girl spent more in Russia than in Paris but same idea.

[IainMuirs]

Quote:

You pretty much nailed it right there. If there's no adventure and some suffering/struggling to be done then i'm not that interested. Also staying in one city cuts out one important element: the traveling itself which I enjoy a lot. I have been in some cities for longer than a week (for example Davao and Cebu, Cordoba,La paz,Quito, Rio, Sau paulo etc etc) and I have cursed been a poor backpacker once or twice but I don't think I can give up the lifestyle that easy.

Neil when you get past the age of 25 / 26 I reckon you'll give up the backpacker lifestyle. It grows old and you get fed up of hostels, shared rooms, annoying backpacker stories, teenager idiots who've left home for the first time without their parents, having nowhere to bang etc. It just becomes a nuisance.

[Spike]

(10-05-2012 05:08 PM)IainMuirs Wrote:  

Quote:

You pretty much nailed it right there. If there's no adventure and some suffering/struggling to be done then i'm not that interested. Also staying in one city cuts out one important element: the traveling itself which I enjoy a lot. I have been in some cities for longer than a week (for example Davao and Cebu, Cordoba,La paz,Quito, Rio, Sau paulo etc etc) and I have cursed been a poor backpacker once or twice but I don't think I can give up the lifestyle that easy.

Neil when you get past the age of 25 / 26 I reckon you'll give up the backpacker lifestyle. It grows old and you get fed up of hostels, shared rooms, annoying backpacker stories, teenager idiots who've left home for the first time without their parents, having nowhere to bang etc. It just becomes a nuisance.

Why? because "society"says so?. I started backpacking at 31 and fucking loved it.

[chochemonger1]

(10-05-2012 06:19 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(10-05-2012 05:08 PM)IainMuirs Wrote:  

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You pretty much nailed it right there. If there's no adventure and some suffering/struggling to be done then i'm not that interested. Also staying in one city cuts out one important element: the traveling itself which I enjoy a lot. I have been in some cities for longer than a week (for example Davao and Cebu, Cordoba,La paz,Quito, Rio, Sau paulo etc etc) and I have cursed been a poor backpacker once or twice but I don't think I can give up the lifestyle that easy.

Neil when you get past the age of 25 / 26 I reckon you'll give up the backpacker lifestyle. It grows old and you get fed up of hostels, shared rooms, annoying backpacker stories, teenager idiots who've left home for the first time without their parents, having nowhere to bang etc. It just becomes a nuisance.

Why? because "society"says so?. I started backpacking at 31 and fucking loved it.

Neil it depends on your energy level and you have a lot of it. But by your 40s if your book sells well, you will be renting or buying a nice pad in the Philippines.

[Spike]

Maybe yes or maybe no. (a confusing sentence I used a lot with girls around the world.) I'd like to do some short trips in Russia and perhaps Ukraine/other FSU states but my mind is set on South America. I listen to Cumbia music all day fro crying out loud.

I have been in all Asian countries and in total 1 and half year. The girls are crazy, the sex is easy but I'd prefer South America for now.

One thing I missed about South East Asia and which was disappointing in South America was that people don't really give a damn about you. In SEA I had people taking pictures with me all the time, always kids running after me, clapping,, waving or cheering. People are super friendly. Teenage girls were giggling in whole groups all the time if they saw me. I didn't experience this in SA much. Although I most say I went of the beaten path more in Asia then in SA.
I went to slums (or got lost there) in Indonesia where children followed me and people offered me and my travel buddy free food in a lot of those small streets. we couldn't understand eachother but ejoyed the interaction anyway. I rode a motor through Vietnam and had whole army platoons who were marching stop dead in their tracks just to wave at me on my motorbike. Their AK47's dangling around the stomachs.

Lots of memorable experiences in local chicken busses also. I laugh in the face of rich people in airconditioned busses with tourguides. They experience nothing of the real friendliness of the locals.

[IainMuirs]

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Why? because "society"says so?. I started backpacking at 31 and fucking loved it

I thought you were early 20s. My bad. You did start late, maybe that's why you're still enjoying it but trust me it does get tiresome and it's nothing to do with society, it's to do with having your own place to sleep, shower, bang etc. Hostels are no good in that respect. You never get any peace or privacy in hostels and everyone you meet has the same story to tell plus bringing girls back is a nightmare and no self respecting local girl is going to let you fuck her in your hostel dorm room.

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Lots of memorable experiences in local chicken busses also. I laugh in the face of rich people in airconditioned busses with tourguides. They experience nothing of the real friendliness of the locals.

Sure it's a good experience when you're slumming it around like that but it doesn't make you better than the people with a bit of money to spend who choose a nice aircon bus. You better believe that if the locals on those poor buses could afford that aircon bus they'd be on it in a flash. The locals on the aircon bus are no less 'real' that the locals on the chicken bus, just people with a little more money.

I prefer to hang around with the middle class locals than the poor ones, the poor ones don't have money to do anything and you'll be expected to pay their way. The middle class ones have cash, will spend it and know good places to go.

[chochemonger1]

(10-06-2012 06:36 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

Maybe yes or maybe no. (a confusing sentence I used a lot with girls around the world.) I'd like to do some short trips in Russia and perhaps Ukraine/other FSU states but my mind is set on South America. I listen to Cumbia music all day fro crying out loud.

I have been in all Asian countries and in total 1 and half year. The girls are crazy, the sex is easy but I'd prefer South America for now.

One thing I missed about South East Asia and which was disappointing in South America was that people don't really give a damn about you. In SEA I had people taking pictures with me all the time, always kids running after me, clapping,, waving or cheering. People are super friendly. Teenage girls were giggling in whole groups all the time if they saw me. I didn't experience this in SA much. Although I most say I went of the beaten path more in Asia then in SA.
I went to slums (or got lost there) in Indonesia where children followed me and people offered me and my travel buddy free food in a lot of those small streets. we couldn't understand eachother but ejoyed the interaction anyway. I rode a motor through Vietnam and had whole army platoons who were marching stop dead in their tracks just to wave at me on my motorbike. Their AK47's dangling around the stomachs.

Lots of memorable experiences in local chicken busses also. I laugh in the face of rich people in airconditioned busses with tourguides. They experience nothing of the real friendliness of the locals.

Neil, when you hit up Colombia let me know. I can give you some suggestions and maybe we can meet up for a drink. Cali would be a good city for you. You would like the talent and there are relatively few gringos compared to Medellin. Some good hostels too.

[Wolverine]

(10-05-2012 08:03 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I totally agree about Krasnodar and Rostov.It is a pity Kuban area lies in such a proximity to Caucasus and this skews all image of foreigners.

I also noticed that many Russians are very chamelaeontic(changing completely in one minute) and when drunk they are natural bullies.It is true of all Russia or just limited in Kuban area?May impression was also that Slavs are in general better accepted in Russia than any other foreigners.And that Russian bullies bully everyone not just foreigners.

The Russian mentality can be categorised into two buckets. Those that live in Moscow or Saint Petersburg, and those that dont.

All the intelligencia is concentrated in the 2 big cities. This wasnt the case in soviet times when siberia housed the academics and scientists. In the provinces you will find the most primitive, dishonest and aggressive Russians. In the Kuban province they are forced to be moreso to deal with the violence from Causasus immigants, as the militia is corrupt and does not protect its own citizens.

Comparing the difference in mentality of Moscow with a provincial city (Eg. Samara) is the same as comparing New York City to Little Rock Arkansas.