[chochemonger1]

(09-30-2012 04:36 PM)ZonZon Wrote:  

Armenia is a city in Colombia as well as the name of a country next to Turkey. He might be talking about the place in Colombia...and Bucara might be short for Bucaramanga in Colombia too.

Roger that!

There is a lifestyle imperative and a chick imperative. For life, it is hard for a man with family and business on the east coast of the USA to beat Colombia in the far off places. The climate is terrific, the people friendly, the woman ... there are tons. I have a friend who put together a web site, http://www.LindaPop.com It is not hard stuff. The point I want to make is that ALL the talent on those pages came from Cali only. It is representative of Colombia.

(AGAIN, it is a shame, and somewhat a mystery why I can not find LTR satisfaction in this gene pool. I guess it is my curse? Worse things could happen )

Colombian women in general are not long term material. I would say Brasileiras are more for that. But for a man who is looking to have a good quality rotation of girls, Cali is a damn good place.

[Marco]

Banging 7s on permanent basis and an occasional 8 is for me a pussy paradise and I am sure for many others which now settling for 5-6 in lower rate.
I have done many short trips to FSU/EE (as my job does not allow me longer trips), in all of them although I did not get much pussy (full sex) I did far much better than in any western country, make outs in clubs and dates with 7-9, plentiful of phone numbers, eye contact, girls chasing me etc.

Lets puts some real numbers, I have just came from a trip to Chisinau (5 nights), Tiraspol (3) and Iasi (3), I have used a bit love.mail.ru and okcupid, gamed mostly at night and this was my loot:
Bangs: 1
In Chisinau, girl from love.mail.ru, thin blonde, solid 8, my friends even said she was 9.
Make outs: another 4:
Chisinau- 23 yo, super cute and smart girls which I dated 2 times, she is 8.
Chisinau- 31 yo, yoga teacher with great body and beautiful face, 7.5.
Tiraspol- 19 yo virgin(!), 7 with perfect round tits.
Iasi - 23 yo student, petite brunette, 8.
Dates: 7 including the above. All were 7 at least.
Phone numbers: About 20-25, some from 9s.

And this is for only 11 days! My rates were about the same in Ukraine and Russia and I am completely honest, do not wish to make an impression on any of you in the forum, I can admit that I am average looking guy with mid level game, I don't shower money on girls (but do pay for the bill in dates and buy a tequila chaser after few minutes talk in the club)

I am quite sure that if I am staying long period in FSU/EE cities with the correct approach and logistics I can make it pussy heaven - at least for me.

[Wolverine]

(10-01-2012 11:08 AM)Marco Wrote:  

Phone numbers: About 20-25, some from 9s.

And this is for only 11 days!

May i ask why you bothered acquiring so many phone numbers when you knew you were only passing through?

Even the iron man of serial dating would not have had the time/energy to meet half of those girls over an 11 day period.

[Blunt]

Despite the sudden unpopularity of the FSU at the RVF, I banged more and hotter girls while I was there then in the West. It wasn't necessarily easy to change my style and start buying girls drinks or dinner after I'd considered that tricking for most of my life..that and learning the language..but I thought it was worth it. Even girls that took longer to put out were more satisfying and contributed more to my happiness levels. I dated 18 year olds more mature and intelligent than 24 year olds I dated here.

OP is right about the mindset though. Think about our mindset too though. We are trying to go in there and take from the girls one of the few assets that they have-- sex. So yeah, a lot of the girls are trying to take the only thing from a foreigner that could help them-- money. Every girl has that to some degree in their mind it is just a matter of whether they are vicious about it or if it is only a small factor. Some girls are happy to be able to go out to eat more often while other girls are going to be dropping hints about dresses and vacations, which is something I'm not going to fuck with for a girl I just met, but it works for some guys' situations.

You just got to remember that you're balls didn't get dipped in gold at the border and you're getting more attention for a reason, that way you can keep your head about you.

[The Duke]

(10-01-2012 11:08 AM)Marco Wrote:  

And this is for only 11 days! My rates were about the same in Ukraine and Russia and I am completely honest, do not wish to make an impression on any of you in the forum, I can admit that I am average looking guy with mid level game, I don't shower money on girls (but do pay for the bill in dates and buy a tequila chaser after few minutes talk in the club)

Love the report Marco. It's interesting the rates are similar to Ukraine and Russia. Was sort of hoping it was easier there than Ukraine. Or maybe it is? Looking forward to more detailed reports of your trip.

Wolverine, about getting numbers -- I do the same thing. For me, I dont know at the time if I'll have time to call the girl or not. I dont know how the night will play out. Getting the number is the safest move, even if you sort of know in the back of your mind you probably will never call her.

[tiggaling]

I have been to both Georgia and Russia briefly. I loved it there and feel a real calling to Armenia and also Kazahkstan.

Seems to me the depth of the FSU is largely unexplored. I get the vibe Ukraine is sort of like Romania - a bit garish and cheap, so I'm not overly attracted to the place.

This is the place where you will see females of supernatural beauty just stop you in your tracks. People have said, well, for the 9's and 10's you need big money. I don't think that is strictly true or must always be true. The most beautiful girl I saw there (and have ever seen) was with her fat boyfriend who she was mocking and bossing around!

[chochemonger1]

(10-01-2012 01:55 PM)tiggaling Wrote:  

I have been to both Georgia and Russia briefly. I loved it there and feel a real calling to Armenia and also Kazahkstan.

Seems to me the depth of the FSU is largely unexplored. I get the vibe Ukraine is sort of like Romania - a bit garish and cheap, so I'm not overly attracted to the place.

This is the place where you will see females of supernatural beauty just stop you in your tracks. People have said, well, for the 9's and 10's you need big money. I don't think that is strictly true or must always be true. The most beautiful girl I saw there (and have ever seen) was with her fat boyfriend who she was mocking and bossing around!

Sounds like he was a local. I think most people would agree with your statement about not needing big money if one is a local. From most of the reports I have read, being foreign completely changes the perception of the girls over there towards you.

[brianmark]

Gaston, I loved your description of the Ukraine and I can tell you spent a lot of time on the ground. I like Roosh's 2 sentence summary, that tells you how to play it. I spent a total of about 8 months there over 3 different years. After my first 10 day trip there I realized that I was the one that was being scammed or gamed and not the one doing the Gaming. When I got back to the USA all of my girlfriends just disappeared. They replaced me the latest bunch of guys that just arrived in the Ukraine.

You nailed it on the head that these girls are not honest. It is no coincidence that FSU supplies more prostitutes around the world than almost any counties.

The most interesting thing is that all these marriage agencies specialize in the countries that have the most lying and cheating girls in the world: like Ukraine, Russia, Philippines, Thailand, and some Latin American countries. This is not a coincidence. These girls will give the appearance that they love the men. Just to suck money out of them on a Short Term basis, and more the more cunning girls suck men dry on Long Term Game. There is many a guy that his ruined his life with a woman from these countries. You a playing with fire getting serious with women from these countries. Most have no morals!

I am in the process of writing several blog posts on my site about these scamming women. To be honest whole books need to written about this! All I can say is that you play with fire with these women. You better have balls of steel and be an experienced player or you'll be eaten alive!!!

[brianmark]

@ZonZon, I know about Poltavia. Dude, your report is interesting but the girl is wrong for you. You have her on a pedestal. 90% of the girls in the Ukaine are NOT innocent. If she's not putting out she doesn't like or love you. Don't fall for it. Move on to someone who does care about you. I don't think I met a single innocent girl in the Ukraine (maybe one that was asexual). Good luck.

[ZonZon]

Quote:

You nailed it on the head that these girls are not honest. It is no coincidence that FSU supplies more prostitutes around the world than almost any counties.

The most interesting thing is that all these marriage agencies specialize in the countries that have the most lying and cheating girls in the world: like Ukraine, Russia, Philippines, Thailand, and some Latin American countries. This is not a coincidence. These girls will give the appearance that they love the men. Just to suck money out of them on a Short Term basis, and more the more cunning girls suck men dry on Long Term Game. There is many a guy that his ruined his life with a woman from these countries. You a playing with fire getting serious with women from these countries. Most have no morals!

WELL ... PLEASE DON'T FEED THE ALLIGATORS. Although the women can have thick skin in Odessa and Kiev, to the point where authentic communication is not really possible in the first place, there are women that are complete, and moral, and do not fit these generalizations. IN FACT, the hardest part of knowing (notice I did not say "gaming") Ukrainian woman is overcoming the negative perceptions of the foreigners that have gone there before you! Guilt by association is a bitch.

True story, I shit you not ... I was in a small Ukrainian town while there was a "Marriage Tour". There were only 12 men! But, they had airplanes with signs from "LoveMe.com" They had full camera crews running video with boom mics filming a portly 65 year old was walking - "courting" - a 30 year old hottie. I walked bye the fine pair to take a photo, and caught the guy saying, "I have a gift for you in my room." (I am not making any of this up!) ONLY 12 "would be grooms" and it left a sink of embarrassment for days. It is remarkable really how powerful a handful of ill mannered visitors can destroy a place. Similar to a FART in its effect.

[ZonZon]

Quote:

(maybe one that was asexual)

Jajajaja - I think I met the SAME ONE!

Quote:

You have her on a pedestal.

Yep ... there can be no good that comes when a man puts a woman on a pedestal - ESPECIALLY if it happens fast. It was never ALL OF ME by the way! If that were the case, I would be too embarrassed to admit it! It was my heart ... all of a sudden it became a pussy. My brain NEVER went along with the show.

It was something new. I am better for it.

[jimukr104]

(10-01-2012 03:39 PM)brianmark Wrote:  

Gaston, I loved your description of the Ukraine and I can tell you spent a lot of time on the ground. I like Roosh's 2 sentence summary, that tells you how to play it. I spent a total of about 8 months there over 3 different years. After my first 10 day trip there I realized that I was the one that was being scammed or gamed and not the one doing the Gaming. When I got back to the USA all of my girlfriends just disappeared. They replaced me the latest bunch of guys that just arrived in the Ukraine.

You nailed it on the head that these girls are not honest. It is no coincidence that FSU supplies more prostitutes around the world than almost any counties.

The most interesting thing is that all these marriage agencies specialize in the countries that have the most lying and cheating girls in the world: like Ukraine, Russia, Philippines, Thailand, and some Latin American countries. This is not a coincidence. These girls will give the appearance that they love the men. Just to suck money out of them on a Short Term basis, and more the more cunning girls suck men dry on Long Term Game. There is many a guy that his ruined his life with a woman from these countries. You a playing with fire getting serious with women from these countries. Most have no morals!

I am in the process of writing several blog posts on my site about these scamming women. To be honest whole books need to written about this! All I can say is that you play with fire with these women. You better have balls of steel and be an experienced player or you'll be eaten alive!!!

If you read my last post , I bought up the issue. I was almsot a founding father of a marriage agency, it was one of the only profitable businesses open to foreighners to start .The scamming is 50% the girls and 50% the owners of the agency. Even the more honest agencies have to deal with scamming girls and employees. Alot of blogs and books have been written about the scammers.
So basically you are SAYING the girls in the poorest countries scam and lie?LOL, not exactly headline news, its almsot always that way. Heck most scams and lying in the US comes from the poor crime infested ghettos. You got to look at the FSU as one big GHETTO. Heck I have a flat i na good area but its still a ghetto. What makes the FSU worst is that there is no fear i n god to help keep them honest. Most citizens are athiest. The role models are also liers and scammers. Thier politicians are corrupt and successful businessmen are basically mafia. In surveys they always say they wish t o be successful businessmen. So basically it would be like us saying we want to grow up to be like John Gotti.
In my time in the FSU, I had to make bribes to get utilities hooked up and even had to bribe cargo deliverers to let go off my property ,although, I PAID THEM FOR DELIVERY,LOL. This is life for them there, 2 types of people prey and predaters, they all seek to be at the top of the food chain. Although, locals are better treated, look at the divorce rates. I think they have divorce rates higher than the US. Some say Ukrainians show more emotion in public than russians, not sure if this is true. However, You are more likely to meet an honest Russian than an honest Ukrainian due to1) Russians have better functioning gov't and opportunity to reach higher standard of living.(2) Alot of Russians have a more spiritual side or atleast want to think they do. They themselves find Ukrainians more materialistic. This doesn't apply ofcourse to Western Ukrainian villagers wh o are more down t o earth and religious.

Another point is the small dating pool of English speakers are being pursued by alot of guys,including the sex tourists. Lets say 3000 english speaking girls walking down center of kiev is being approached by over 30k foreign guys per month. It means they now think thier SHIT DON'T STINK. They are geting more attention than American bitches,

[Wolverine]

(10-01-2012 03:39 PM)brianmark Wrote:  

You nailed it on the head that these girls are not honest. It is no coincidence that FSU supplies more prostitutes around the world than almost any counties.

The most interesting thing is that all these marriage agencies specialize in the countries that have the most lying and cheating girls in the world: like Ukraine, Russia, Philippines, Thailand, and some Latin American countries. This is not a coincidence. These girls will give the appearance that they love the men. Just to suck money out of them on a Short Term basis, and more the more cunning girls suck men dry on Long Term Game. There is many a guy that his ruined his life with a woman from these countries. You a playing with fire getting serious with women from these countries. Most have no morals!

I am in the process of writing several blog posts on my site about these scamming women. To be honest whole books need to written about this! All I can say is that you play with fire with these women. You better have balls of steel and be an experienced player or you'll be eaten alive!!!

Those "prostitutes" are a victim of circumstance. I guarantee you half of them have a higher education that is not recognised in western countries and doesnt allow them to forge a proper career.

Not everything is as you see on the surface.

And those "scamming" women are using men in the same way that men are using them.

Western men come to the FSU knowing they can exploit a girls position of financial dependence and want of a better life elsewhere instead of earning her attraction through a natural courtship based on looks and personality.

Today i left kiev and at Borisopol airport i saw a beautiful 20 something girl crying while her 40 something fat bald american to be husband was bear hugging her. She was crying as she was forced into letting this creature touch her for the next 3 years just so she could get out of the Ukraine.

And you really feel sorry for the fat guy?
I walked away praying he gets burnt by her.

If you had to spend 5 years married to a socially retarted obese woman to escape poverty you would be very bitter my friend.

Its not cool being exploited in any capacity. You would become the scammer.

[Wolverine]

(10-01-2012 04:16 PM)brianmark Wrote:  

@ZonZon, I know about Poltavia. Dude, your report is interesting but the girl is wrong for you. You have her on a pedestal. 90% of the girls in the Ukaine are NOT innocent. If she's not putting out she doesn't like or love you. Don't fall for it. Move on to someone who does care about you. I don't think I met a single innocent girl in the Ukraine (maybe one that was asexual). Good luck.

I agree with this 100%.

There's a good chance shes getting regular action from a local guy while she's dating her potential to be husband (you).

Nothing with women is as it seems.

If she's avoiding physical escalation i would withdraw.

[Marco]

(10-01-2012 12:19 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 11:08 AM)Marco Wrote:  

Phone numbers: About 20-25, some from 9s.

And this is for only 11 days!

May i ask why you bothered acquiring so many phone numbers when you knew you were only passing through?

Even the iron man of serial dating would not have had the time/energy to meet half of those girls over an 11 day period.

1st, more numbers means I can choose from more options for a date, choose the ones which I most like out of them.
2nd, there are many flakes, girl can text with you and even talk on phone while later disappearing. If you have a tight schedule better have a plan b, c, etc.

(10-01-2012 01:26 PM)The Duke Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 11:08 AM)Marco Wrote:  

And this is for only 11 days! My rates were about the same in Ukraine and Russia and I am completely honest, do not wish to make an impression on any of you in the forum, I can admit that I am average looking guy with mid level game, I don't shower money on girls (but do pay for the bill in dates and buy a tequila chaser after few minutes talk in the club)

Love the report Marco. It's interesting the rates are similar to Ukraine and Russia. Was sort of hoping it was easier there than Ukraine. Or maybe it is? Looking forward to more detailed reports of your trip.

Wolverine, about getting numbers -- I do the same thing. For me, I dont know at the time if I'll have time to call the girl or not. I dont know how the night will play out. Getting the number is the safest move, even if you sort of know in the back of your mind you probably will never call her.

The rates were about the same as Ukraine for me, in Moldova there are many smart girls which knows how to play their asset- beauty, in order to secure a good spouse from richer country.
For example this super cute 23 yo girl had/have a boyfriend in Germany, in the past she visit Turkey as her good girlfriend married there and her big sister is married to English man she met in the internet, she is fully aware of everything, checking how much money you have, if you are Muslim (she hates them), if you are generous and not a drunk, etc. she is not desperate for the 1st foreigner which wants her. Many girls there are the same, I do not think she is a scammer though.

[iknowexactly]

Since I want to have a kid, it simplifies things. She has to not only want to fuck, but raw and ready. And believe me I'm getting any kid gene tested. I don't need her permission or awareness to swab his or her cheek.

I don't even listen to what anyone says. Words mean nothing. Marriage means little.

If she gives me a kid, what do I care what goes through her 5-year old-like female mind.
If she doesn't, next.

She'll be MUCH less appealing to the Slavic competition after she has a kid too.

[brianmark]

(10-01-2012 04:46 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(10-01-2012 03:39 PM)brianmark Wrote:  

You nailed it on the head that these girls are not honest. It is no coincidence that FSU supplies more prostitutes around the world than almost any counties.

The most interesting thing is that all these marriage agencies specialize in the countries that have the most lying and cheating girls in the world: like Ukraine, Russia, Philippines, Thailand, and some Latin American countries. This is not a coincidence. These girls will give the appearance that they love the men. Just to suck money out of them on a Short Term basis, and more the more cunning girls suck men dry on Long Term Game. There is many a guy that his ruined his life with a woman from these countries. You a playing with fire getting serious with women from these countries. Most have no morals!

I am in the process of writing several blog posts on my site about these scamming women. To be honest whole books need to written about this! All I can say is that you play with fire with these women. You better have balls of steel and be an experienced player or you'll be eaten alive!!!

Those "prostitutes" are a victim of circumstance. I guarantee you half of them have a higher education that is not recognised in western countries and doesnt allow them to forge a proper career.

Not everything is as you see on the surface.

And those "scamming" women are using men in the same way that men are using them.

Western men come to the FSU knowing they can exploit a girls position of financial dependence and want of a better life elsewhere instead of earning her attraction through a natural courtship based on looks and personality.

Today i left kiev and at Borisopol airport i saw a beautiful 20 something girl crying while her 40 something fat bald american to be husband was bear hugging her. She was crying as she was forced into letting this creature touch her for the next 3 years just so she could get out of the Ukraine.

And you really feel sorry for the fat guy?
I walked away praying he gets burnt by her.

If you had to spend 5 years married to a socially retarted obese woman to escape poverty you would be very bitter my friend.

Its not cool being exploited in any capacity. You would become the scammer.

Wolverine, I liked your answer.

I understand their circumstances are not perfect, but if you think you can save them, Good luck! I once believed this. I had LT girlfriends in both Ukraine and Philippines. I even thought they may be the ones to marry (never done it before). Their cultures are just too different once you get to know them.
I am not fat, and not ugly. Both times, after treating both girls very well, I caught them cheating! It's a product of their corrupt cultures. Note, Philippines is a Catholic country, so it's not the fact that FSU is supposedly Godless.

There is a 90% divorce rate in Ukraine and Russia. If you believe they can make good wives, good. I don't believe it anymore.
I'd love to think that i could find a wonderful woman from one of these countries but I don't think it is very likely, with divorcee rates like 90%. I don't feel sorry for 20 year old w/ that fat 40 year old Westerner. She'll make his life a total hell for the next 5 years. Just wait and see!

Gaston, ZonZon, and Wolverine how much time have you spent in the Ukraine?
I'll have to go along with Roosh's 2 lines. If you are a better gamer than them, then you'll win!

[brianmark]

(10-01-2012 04:27 PM)ZonZon Wrote:  

Quote:

You nailed it on the head that these girls are not honest. It is no coincidence that FSU supplies more prostitutes around the world than almost any counties.

The most interesting thing is that all these marriage agencies specialize in the countries that have the most lying and cheating girls in the world: like Ukraine, Russia, Philippines, Thailand, and some Latin American countries. This is not a coincidence. These girls will give the appearance that they love the men. Just to suck money out of them on a Short Term basis, and more the more cunning girls suck men dry on Long Term Game. There is many a guy that his ruined his life with a woman from these countries. You a playing with fire getting serious with women from these countries. Most have no morals!

WELL ... PLEASE DON'T FEED THE ALLIGATORS. Although the women can have thick skin in Odessa and Kiev, to the point where authentic communication is not really possible in the first place, there are women that are complete, and moral, and do not fit these generalizations. IN FACT, the hardest part of knowing (notice I did not say "gaming") Ukrainian woman is overcoming the negative perceptions of the foreigners that have gone there before you! Guilt by association is a bitch.

True story, I shit you not ... I was in a small Ukrainian town while there was a "Marriage Tour". There were only 12 men! But, they had airplanes with signs from "LoveMe.com" They had full camera crews running video with boom mics filming a portly 65 year old was walking - "courting" - a 30 year old hottie. I walked bye the fine pair to take a photo, and caught the guy saying, "I have a gift for you in my room." (I am not making any of this up!) ONLY 12 "would be grooms" and it left a sink of embarrassment for days. It is remarkable really how powerful a handful of ill mannered visitors can destroy a place. Similar to a FART in its effect.

Very interesting; was Loveme.com filming a reality show? They sent out a Casting Call for a reality show about a year ago. Or were they just being a pain in the ass following their guys around for their own website? My guess is they wanted guys that were losers to make it more romantic to fit their image: Old, fat, loser guy goes over and meets beautiful young 20s girls and lives Happily Ever After!

All these guys don’t hurt your chances, because you are not guilty by association. I'd say the problem is these guys, spoil these girls. So it makes it a lot harder for a normal guy to compete because the girls are so spoiled.

You make it sound like the problem with the Ukrainian girls is that the Western guys are corrupt and that is why the girls are corrupt. I can tell you they were corrupt long before the first Western man came to the Ukraine. Their corruption comes from within: the culture of the old Soviet Union.

[brianmark]

(10-01-2012 04:41 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

Another point is the small dating pool of English speakers are being pursued by alot of guys,including the sex tourists. Lets say 3000 english speaking girls walking down center of kiev is being approached by over 30k foreign guys per month. It means they now think thier SHIT DON'T STINK. They are geting more attention than American bitches,

I have to say this Thread is the best thread I've read on the Forum about the Ukraine. Most men are so enamored with the place, because all the dating sites keep the dream alive.

I too love the Ukraine and love the food and the locals were very nice to me too!

Congratulations about finding and marrying a good Ukrainian. I do believe it is possible. You did it the right way by living THERE. This going over for two weeks and bringing one back for marriage is a total joke!

[Soma]

(10-02-2012 02:16 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

I too love the Ukraine and love the food and the locals were very nice to me too!

[jackson.henley]

This might be interesting. It's a TV show similar to the bachelor. The contestants are Ukrainian gals all trying to get with a prince from the UK. One of them is a porn star that I thought I recognized...

[tiggaling]

chochemonger1, yes, the fat bf was a local.

Yep, girls from FSU lie.

ah, there are all kind of fucked up things about FSU culture and how people operate there.

BUT, there are all kinds of fucked up things about how we in the west operate and a lot of us accept this is "how it is", and don't see a problem with it, per se.

I used to judge the Russian culture, but then I realised this. I also saw, there were so many things that they had right, which we, in the west, we did not. AND, furthermore, these things are often so unknown to us, that we may not even be able to understand what they are.

Yes, I do think there is a price to pay for this sheer feminine finesse.

I watched a video of sashadaygame in Romania, and he said, once you have been to Russia you are fucked and I can pretty much concur.
Problem is, in most countries, the females just don't compare, it is hard to be really interested. At least for me, I find that.

[Spike]

I didn't read the whole thread since i'm short on time but I think you guys are being too negative now. I haven't been to the Ukraine but in Russia I picked up and boned three girls with not so much trouble and barely any money spend.
First girl worked in a hostel in Moscow (banged after 4 days, after two days of minor flirting)
Second girl, I met in Kazan in a small club. I went to her apartment with two more girls after only talking to them for a few minutes, banged her a few days later.
Third girl, I met her in a train to Vladivostok and only spoke with her for about 5 minutes. Met up with her the next day, went for a walk and to a cinema and stayed over at her apartment the same night. First night blowjob, second night bang. This girl has a model body and visited me in three different countries on her own costs.

All this while I was still in my beta days (with maybe some improved social skills but never ever heard of game/pua/pick up by then) and a poor backpacker.
Everywhere I went in Russia and Kazahkstan people were friendly,curious and enthusiastic and girls were nice to me.
I'm not trying to brag here, lord knows how I suffered in other places in the world but I just can't imagine Ukraine being a whole different world. I'm pretty sure I get laid in less than a week in Ukraine since my gaming skills have improved a lot since Russia.

Maybe you guys should look in different spots for girls.

[Excelsior]

(10-02-2012 04:00 AM)jackson.henley Wrote:  

This might be interesting. It's a TV show similar to the bachelor. The contestants are Ukrainian gals all trying to get with a prince from the UK. One of them is a porn star that I thought I recognized...

Yeah, I see her too. Eugenia Diordiychuk aka Jenya D (metart) aka Katie Fey. Lots of nudes floating around, very popular softcore porn girl/nude model. I've got some of her early in the 10 thread.
She starts talking at 5:00 in that vid.

[tiggaling]

Pretty average looking girls in that show I thought!