Quote: (05-04-2018 01:08 PM)Mage Wrote:  

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Quote: (05-01-2018 09:00 PM)Sherman Wrote:  

Nature never left you. That is why you are still alive. However, Judaism will not be missed.

And Islam will be even missed less than Judaism.

Sadly no, if Judaism would suddenly get banned only about 0.5% of people of this planet would get triggered. If Islam would get banned about 20% of people on this planet would get triggered. That is a scary percentage.



Another thing that is mind boggling to me - if we humans get only one life and if Christianity is correct - why does God allow such huge percentages of people to live and die in societies constructed on total lies? You know these people in most of majority Muslim countries - they just can't get baptized and be liberated from the original sin. There is no such option there.

God visits them through supernatural means. Those who are earnest in seeking God have dreams of Isa. And seek out the Christian faith afterwards at great risk to their lives. Where the church is absent God calls those who are his own.

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“Your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions,” asserts the promise of God from the book of Joel.

Yet some of those men reportedly seeing visions and dreams are neither Jews nor Christians … but Muslims.

What’s more, Middle East evangelists report the dreamers are coming to Christianity because of their visions of Jesus.

According to a CBN report, Christian Middle East evangelist Hazem Farraj’s television program “Reflections” is reaching a large Muslim audience. Farraj told CBN that he hears from Muslims who report having dreams or visions of Jesus.

Tom Doyle, an evangelist, pastor and the E3 Partners Ministry director for the Middle East and Central Asia says it’s true: Muslims are coming to Christianity through dreams and visions.

“Great things are happening in the Muslim world,” Doyle said in an email to WND. “It’s all very unexpected.”

Doyle told WND that he is familiar with Farraj’s program and that Jesus is breaking through where missionaries have not succeeded.

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“We’ve been seeing this for 15 years now, where Muslims are no longer Muslims but are Jesus followers,” Doyle said. “It’s someone who is a Christian, someone who is willing to die for Jesus.

“It all started with them with a dream,” Doyle said. “They had a Jesus dream, and some of them had many Jesus dreams. They would seek out Christians after a while because the dreams would get so intense that they wanted an answer.”

Doyle explains there is still a difficult process involved for a Muslim to convert to Christianity, even for those who have the dreams.

“Nobody goes to bed a Muslim and wakes up a Christian,” Doyle said. “They have a couple of barriers between them and Jesus. They’ve been told that Christians worship three gods. They’re told that the Bible is corrupted. It’s just what they’ve been told, kind of a party line rhetoric.”

Yet dreams, Doyle says, become a starting point.

“They’re motivated to find a Bible, find a Christian and ask what this means. Ninety-five percent of the Muslims who are now Jesus followers say that they were led to Christ by someone explaining the dream to them,” Doyle said.

Doyle says he wrote a book called “Dreams and Visions,” in which he recorded a series of real stories from Muslims who follow Christ and who did so because they had a dream about Jesus. He adds that the phenomenon is taking place in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, Syria and on the West Bank.

Doyle says he knows of one Muslim who was on a hajj, a pilgrimage to Mecca, and he had a daytime vision of Jesus.

“I met a man yesterday who said he saw a Jesus dream and he didn’t know what to do with it, so he got deeper into his Muslim faith,” Doyle said. “Then he went to Mecca on the hajj, and on the first time around the Kabah, he saw a vision of Jesus standing in front of him.”

Doyle said the man told him Jesus had a message: “You’re on the wrong path; you’re on the wrong road. Leave this place and come follow me.”

“This man is getting baptized in the next few weeks,” Doyle said.

Doyle believes that the phenomenon will continue and that the stories are taking place in countries that the West believes are bad and dangerous places.

Read more at https://www.wnd.com/2013/02/visions-of-j...QYXSE44.99

There is a particular dramatisation of what the Turkish man thought he saw:






Maybe its all bullshit. But its undoutably true that Muslims who think they had visions of Jesus are converting.

Quote: (09-13-2018 02:25 PM)Extinguished Light Wrote:  

Quote: (05-05-2018 09:29 AM)fenetre Wrote:  

I've thought about this question a lot recently. About which religion is truer, and why Christianity is arguably the most true. I'm no theologian so take my thinking for what it's worth.

There are two main points.

One. God is something to be discovered. This takes time, and the ability to understand yourself and the world around you. For example, electricity has always existed but was not discovered until relatively recently.

Pagans' understanding of God is limited to a primitive sort of understanding, because that was the level of development back then. Similarly, Hindus' and Muslims' conception of God and their development of this understanding is limited by differences in the way these cultures think, which is a function of their IQ, temperaments, other biological factors, and so on.

Is it any wonder that the superior European type has developed the greatest understanding of God, based on how he has discovered it? Why should our brilliance in discovery stop at the door of religion?

Two. Supporting my point is that we only need to look at how life is in various religious societies. "Ye shall know them by their fruits."
How can anyone hold on to the argument that all religions are equal? How is life for the average Muslim, Hindu or Christian? Which society is going to be more just, wealthy, compassionate, safe?

We know Christianity is more true because we see the fruits of the actions of 100s of millions of Christians over hundreds of years, and we compare this to the Hindu and Muslim equivalents.

No people has fully discovered God, but it's clear that Christianity is further along the road. Just zoom out a little.

The hindu conception of god and the universe is fairly complex and interesting actually. Neils Bohr spoke of how he used to read the Upanishads to help him figure out which questions to ask in his study.

Rene Guenon, one of the greatest perennialists, wrote an interesting book summarizing the theology: "Man and his Becoming According to the Vedanta". I read it recently and it really provided a fascinating conception of life and the universe.

Interestingly, most modern Indians don't seem to describe their religious beliefs according to the written theology. Perhaps this is due to regional differences, and partially due to the massive body of different texts compiled over many years as opposed to a single Bible or Quran.

But then again, I don't find many Christians are particularly solid on theology either.

Hinduism is the same religion as the pagan religions of Europe. There's a reason it's called the 'oldest religion'. It is polytheistic and the similarities in the Gods, myths and the ancient languages is evident and well documented. There are some elements of Hinduism that are different, this was probably culturally appropriated from the inhabitants of the subcontinent (whose ancestors now populate southern india).

People should follow science. It works.

Quote: (09-14-2018 11:52 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

People should follow science. It works.

Science is not something to be followed. But a method of determining truth. It is one of the most error-proof methods through which we discover the truths of physical reality.

^Come on, you know what I mean. People should follow reason, facts and evidence. They work.

Some videos I made related to this topic in case anyones interested.

Quote: (09-14-2018 08:09 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

Hinduism is the same religion as the pagan religions of Europe. There's a reason it's called the 'oldest religion'. It is polytheistic and the similarities in the Gods, myths and the ancient languages is evident and well documented. There are some elements of Hinduism that are different, this was probably culturally appropriated from the inhabitants of the subcontinent (whose ancestors now populate southern india).

I know very little of current day Hindu practice. I imagine it has little to do with the Hinduism of the Rigveda, like modern day Protestantism has little resemblance to first century Christianity.

It is however very interesting how incredibly interconnected the world is due to the memetic energy of the Aryans. Before anyone accuses me of WRT'ing, this is the same as the memetic energy of Mohammed.

Consider that Buddhism, which stretches unto the farthest reaches of Asia in Japan, is a derivative of Hinduism, a spiritual clarification of the concepts of Hinduism. Not unlike what Christianity is to Semittic religion (which again is from Zoroastrianism and Babylonian (who got it from the Sumers).

You can see it as one dominant people, the Aryans, bringing with them a dominant culture, a meme, which is then adapted by other people, discarding what doesn't fit and adapting what does fit. Is that an explanation why so many westerners love Yoga and Buddhism?

This is the strength of paganism. It allows for adaptation and improvisation. It allows memetic exchange, so that people can recognize their own cultural ancestry in foreign people.

Quote: (09-21-2018 10:29 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Quote: (09-14-2018 08:09 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

Hinduism is the same religion as the pagan religions of Europe. There's a reason it's called the 'oldest religion'. It is polytheistic and the similarities in the Gods, myths and the ancient languages is evident and well documented. There are some elements of Hinduism that are different, this was probably culturally appropriated from the inhabitants of the subcontinent (whose ancestors now populate southern india).

I know very little of current day Hindu practice. I imagine it has little to do with the Hinduism of the Rigveda, like modern day Protestantism has little resemblance to first century Christianity.

It is however very interesting how incredibly interconnected the world is due to the memetic energy of the Aryans. Before anyone accuses me of WRT'ing, this is the same as the memetic energy of Mohammed.

Consider that Buddhism, which stretches unto the farthest reaches of Asia in Japan, is a derivative of Hinduism, a spiritual clarification of the concepts of Hinduism. Not unlike what Christianity is to Semittic religion (which again is from Zoroastrianism and Babylonian (who got it from the Sumers).

You can see it as one dominant people, the Aryans, bringing with them a dominant culture, a meme, which is then adapted by other people, discarding what doesn't fit and adapting what does fit. Is that an explanation why so many westerners love Yoga and Buddhism?

This is the strength of paganism. It allows for adaptation and improvisation. It allows memetic exchange, so that people can recognize their own cultural ancestry in foreign people.

Very interesting thought. It's also odd that many cultures share their believes about blue eyed blonde gods.

Quote: (09-15-2018 01:57 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-14-2018 11:52 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

People should follow science. It works.

Science is not something to be followed. But a method of determining truth. It is one of the most error-proof methods through which we discover the truths of physical reality.

Quote: (09-15-2018 02:47 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

^Come on, you know what I mean. People should follow reason, facts and evidence. They work.

Have you not been seeing how atheists or other people devoid of religion attempt to substitute religion with science? In some cases fanatically. Take religion away from people and they will substitute it with something else in a similar fashion, regardless of how factual it is. Global warming. Climate change. Climate change denial? Sounds familiar, like heresy in medieval Europe. And how factual is that?

I see what you’re saying Pride Male but we are already seeing the folly of that argument in society today.

Quote: (09-21-2018 10:37 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  

Very interesting thought. It's also odd that many cultures share their believes about blue eyed blonde gods.

It's not odd at all.

The birthplace of blue eyes are in Western Europe, but they at least arrive around 10.000bc (probably earlier). Plenty of time to reach the Armenian highlands from where the likely Urheimat of both Proto-Meds and Proto-Semittics come from.

The Proto-Meds sailed down Tigris and Euphrates and founded a culture which became the Sumerians. From Sumer they sailed eastwards towards India, up the Indus and founded the Indus Valley. The combined Semittic/Sumerian culture of that region became Egypt and Egyptians sailed to South America. Some refugees from the Indus Valley civilization sailed eastwards settling in Polynesia giving birth to the only alphabet there, which bears striking resemblance.

https://www.quora.com/How-can-you-explai...00-km-away





To wrap up, the blue eyed Indus Valley, do we believe that?

This is the so called Pashupati seal found in the Indus Valley:



This is the Celtic god Cernunnos:

^^^^
Are you saying that Kona's polynesian ethnostate is the true aryan nation? Are we gonna have a 4th Reich in the Pacific?

I'm saying that Kona's ancestors slayed the Red Haired Long Ears of Polynesia.




Or maybe Kona is a long ear?

Quote: (09-21-2018 03:19 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

^^^^
Are you saying that Kona's polynesian ethnostate is the true aryan nation? Are we gonna have a 4th Reich in the Pacific?

#Kona4Fuhrer

Get it trending folks. I'll be the first to join up.

I'll personally give a case of Busch beer to the first 100 recruits.

Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Kona.

Quote: (09-15-2018 02:47 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

^Come on, you know what I mean. People should follow reason, facts and evidence. They work.

Humanity needs an answer to the questions of WHY? and WHAT TO DO? which are bought by faith.

Science and reason don't give an answer to a why? and What to do?. Science only gives answers to questions like - how much? , and maybe how? That is good but not enough.

Without any faith and with only reason humanity will commit suicide. Any individual or social group that has high enough intellect to override basic instincts inevitably ends up committing suicide in one of the two ways:

1)Physical suicide - by overriding self-preservation instincts (a.k.a. fear) a reasonable person will commit suicide if they see nothing but suffering in their most probable future.

2)Demographic suicide. This is what is happening in high IQ societies right now. By overriding procreation instincts or by subverting them (gay sex, contraception, abortion, anal sex, masturbation) a reasonable person will conclude that children are not worth the hassle and will substitute natural intercourse with any of the surrogates listed above. Such a society enters negative birthrate loop and is displaced by a more sexually aggressive lower IQ society with more Faith. This is happening right now.

Faith provides answers to why a person needs to continue living and procreating even if it rationally brings only more suffering. Faith gives it all meaning which can make life's struggles meaningful. A meaning can actually turn pain into pleasure. This is why most important and heated questions in any faith are sexual taboos and a taboo on suicide unless it is martyrdom for a greater cause. This is why a person with faith is stronger then a person without faith and will not give up in face of a hardship where an atheist would give up. This is from where the stereotype of atheists more likely being fat comes from. This is why so many atheists turn to liberal beliefs about non-shaming, accepting every body shape and sexual deviation - they lack the WHY? to change anything, they lack the drive and energy to do so. Believing in a fairy tales about miracles or mythology being real is a small price to pay for that energy. Atheists don't understand that and ridicule these beliefs not seeing how these beliefs give power and drive to those who hold them.

In modern times there exists a third way a humanity can commit suicide - by too rapid and uncontrolled technological development. This can lead to human extinction in many ways:

- Nuclear war
- Biological agent immune to all antibiotics
- Nanotechnology a.k.a great goo
- Chemical agent that destroys atmosphere
- A.I that decides humans are obsolete

Science today is totally blind it advances in great speed and corporations and scientists create things just because they can, without giving a second thought on the subject SHOULD WE? It has become an uncontrolled process and the reason these tech people are so proud of is but a blind leading the blind. Many people,mainly religious ones who are accustomed to faith controlling their reason out of suicide don't believe something so global and large can be left of control and seek some hidden pattern or sense in this - this is how most conspiracy theories are born.

The old religions are too slow and outdated to properly react to each new scientific achievement and put brakes on that. Christians do the best they can by warning people about evil side of contraception, abortion, human cloning and electronic chipping, but on other side they have little or no material in their scriptures to react to such things as GMO's, substitution of real money with electronic one, virtual reality, total surveillance, killer robots, A.I. and similar.

This is why a form of NeoPaganism is the only faith that could help us. Because NeoPaganism is scientific on one hand but it believes that humans are feeling the best when they lead a natural lifestyle they are evolved for and limit the use of technology. No other religion then Paganism can bring the right integral balance between natural and holistic lifestyle and use of technology.

^What about nationalism? You know blood and soil. Judaism is a religion that is tribal in nature. I dont see why people cant just replace god with the nation. Fatherland, flags, founding fathers, national holdiays etc.

Humans are spiritual beings. Even if you made the whole planet atheistic, there would still be some people
experiencing visions, spiritual experiences and so on. You can only get so far without spirituality.

Communists had their own ideology as a God, and they were miserable.
Died building a railway for Stalin and claiming it gave their life a meaning.
After removing God and the idea that our lives have a meaning, or even the idea of afterlife, what is there left?
Founding fathers and national figures would slowly become gods and saint like figures and you'd have a religion again.

Quote: (09-22-2018 05:32 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

^What about nationalism? You know blood and soil. Judaism is a religion that is tribal in nature. I dont see why people cant just replace god with the nation. Fatherland, flags, founding fathers, national holdiays etc.

Paganism is a very nationalistic faith and nationalism is at it's core. In paganism you venerate your ancestors, their wisdom, their traditions. You also venerate mother earth, rivers, mountains and trees of your land, you fight to preserve them and pass them on to your children. The nature of your land are also your ancestors and your siblings because you have evolved in unison with it.

The main deity in paganism are your ancestors and their heritage. You must live to embody that and make them proud, to utilize the potential you have received from them to it's maximum.

Judaism is basically Jewish paganism. They have their prophets and forefathers instead of gods and so they venerate their ancestors. They also venerate their homeland Israel. The problem with Judaism is that their homeland is a desert. So wherever they go they bring desert with themselves, that is bad for the planet. Indo-European paganism is different, our homeland is forests, riverbeds and seashores. Therefore Indo-European Pagansim is good for the whole planet.

Christianity and Islam are bastard religions for those who have forgotten their ancestors and their homeland. They are the winds of ashes and locusts that travel across the earth. Ultimately they consume their host land and serve to spread the the desert.

Judaism is aware of it's unique status as a survived and recognized pagan tribal religion. They will therefore do what they can so that all others only fallow bastard religions or have no faith at all. They don't want any other tribe to have their own tribal pagan faith, especially not one that would push back the desert and make the former sand-plains green again.

Mage, did you watch my video titled "Introduction to Indo European Religion"? I am interested in your opinion because you know a bit about the topic.

Also, I do not agree with your criticisms of Atheism. Atheism is the only place from which true Indo European religion can develop. Because it is pure and without baggage.

Atheism is an important step in the transition Abrahamic > Atheist > Indo European.

Indo European religion can only develop on an Atheist foundation. People who follow Abrahamic faiths have too many dysfunctional ideas and conceptions for them to be able to grasp the nuanced and sophisticated ideas of IE Religion.

We should secretly turn this into the Kona Ethnostate thread. He will never think to look here.

Quote: (09-22-2018 08:23 AM)mzp1 Wrote:  

Mage, did you watch my video titled "Introduction to Indo European Religion"? I am interested in your opinion because you know a bit about the topic.

Also, I do not agree with your criticisms of Atheism. Atheism is the only place from which true Indo European religion can develop. Because it is pure and without baggage.

Atheism is an important step in the transition Abrahamic > Atheist > Indo European.

Indo European religion can only develop on an Atheist foundation. People who follow Abrahamic faiths have too many dysfunctional ideas and conceptions for them to be able to grasp the nuanced and sophisticated ideas of IE Religion.

You might be right to a degree about atheism being pure start, but I have two points to consider here:

1) Atheism can also come with baggage, such as Communism and Cultural Marxism.

2) There are a few good things in the old Abrahamic religions, and we don't need to invent the bicycle for the second time in those.

The only reason why Europeans resonated with Christianity is because Hellenized Jews like Philo mixed Judaism with Stoic and Greo Roman philosophy. A Trojan horse.

“The foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.”

This should be believed by everyone, regardless of what religion they follow. The acknowledgement that you are inferior to your creator, and that you’re at his mercy, is crucial to preventing not only evil actions, but arrogance, which is rampant today in elite circles, who think of themselves as gods in full control of the planet.

This only leads to bad leadership, and is the primary reason for all the bad decisions being made by the globalist elite: they have uncontrolled greed, unrealistic expectations, and a stupid amount of ambition going in all the wrong directions. They refuse to admit the very clear limitations within our frameworks as animals, as fallen beings if you will—they have no humility, and will fall from power because of their arrogance.

What about buddhism?

Quote: (10-28-2018 09:46 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

What about buddhism?

You just wrote your own koan.

Meditate my son.

The answer will come.