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03-07-2016, 05:14 PM
I like the opener.
Can imagine girls replying out of curiosity. Would say it's clickbait. Good way to get the girl's attention, which is important when she is probably getting flooded with messages from your competition.
Like mentioned, having a good profile (good pics and entertaining life) to follow up the conversation is a must.
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03-07-2016, 05:16 PM
Hey I also want to be one of the guys who does nothing but wants everything
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03-07-2016, 08:15 PM
There's a ton of PMs for me to reply to. I'm doing my best to keep up. I'm not ignoring anyone, it's just taking a while
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03-07-2016, 09:44 PM
Yea after some thought this exact premise can be used in person as well except with dealing with an object that could be on her person. You can then deflect and say it was a test of sorts leading into a cold read, or just smirk when the "WTF" look on her face comes in which would lead to a more direct approach.
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03-08-2016, 01:10 AM
I like this opener. It may have lead to a rekindling of a waning interaction. Very clever, he'll be getting a +1 from me.
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03-08-2016, 02:26 AM
The original opener is made for online websites.
I haven't used websites like ok cupid for a while, so it's useless for me in that sense at the moment.
I think I can adapt it easily as a line to through out at a bar or a date after you have talked to for a while.
I already throw out subtle "negs"
There are more then enough girls going around at a decent club. I usually call them out and say they are bad dancers..bad kissers, with a smile on my face. If they get mad.. I let them walk. Fine with me cause I'm not trying to put effort into a sub par chick.
But often the girl well take the comment and put in a little more work. If you are higher value then her, she may start trying harder to keep you around.
I can see how this line would work online.
But at the same time, I feel like online dating "negs" are a little played out. Girls are so uppity and over confident in their sub parness that they easily get offended.
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03-08-2016, 06:17 AM
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03-08-2016, 11:39 AM
It seems like this place is turning into PUA websites...
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03-08-2016, 11:54 AM
I think it's a good but not great opener and in my opinion some of you guys are over-estimating the power of openers for online game. A well calibrated opener can be the difference between a girl responding to you or ignoring you in a small percentage of situations. Your pictures are infinitely more important.
I've tested many openers and usually the opener just needs to be original and not over the top (let's fuck). "Safe" messages work all the time in the right situations. There is a difference between "safe" openers and boring repetitive openers like "hi, how are you".
There is a Tinder blog that suggests something like "Hi Stephanie :-)" as an opener. Some of you guys are probably cringing at the thought of that opener but I've used it on Tinder and it works in the right situations. It works because a girl that likes you is going to respond to you as long as you aren't an idiot. That opener might get half the response rate as SomeFcksGiven's opener but that is because you are weeding out responses from girls that aren't interested. Sometimes you want a high response rate but eventually you might have enough leads and girls that you don't want to waste your time with girls who aren't very interested. Another opener that does a similar job of weeding out less interested girls is the "we would have beautiful babies" opener mentioned in the Tinder App thread. Those are two very different openers but they both do a good job of weeding out less interested girls when used in the right situations.
I've tweaked SomeFcksGiven's opener and will test it out. I've successfully used similar openers that create curiosity and a little insecurity. I don't like using these as spam openers. Girls will follow up with "why..." and your follow-up response is more important than the actual opener. If you have a good response that relates to something in her pictures or profile then it is a great opener. If not, I think you would do better by using a different opener.
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03-08-2016, 04:27 PM
Quote: (03-08-2016 11:54 AM)birthday cat Wrote:
I think it's a good but not great opener and in my opinion some of you guys are over-estimating the power of openers for online game. A well calibrated opener can be the difference between a girl responding to you or ignoring you in a small percentage of situations. Your pictures are infinitely more important.
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There is a Tinder blog...
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I understand what you are saying. However when using Tinder (which I believe the majority does) you already got past the pictures phase. There's no such thing as a perfect opener but you do want to trigger her into a conversation. I think this opener is one of the better ones out there that will most likely trigger her to do so. From that point she invested in you and it's game on.
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03-08-2016, 04:31 PM
This is a good disqualifying opener, it works well when paired with a compliment first so it's sort of like a neg or a backhanded compliment afterwards. Good work OP
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03-08-2016, 04:33 PM
Quote: (03-08-2016 04:27 PM)Sebastian Wrote:
Why do you think I am bashing and you are offended?
I only used the word 'PUA' - In a very negative tone. You basically think 'PUA' is a dorky or lame thing. that's why you are offended. Opener is part of PUA stuff period
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03-08-2016, 04:46 PM
I got the original opener (it's good). I think a good follow-up to her response would be something involving either what she does or how she looks. Girls today are "invested" emotionally into what they do, be it their degrees, jobs, etc., and make a big deal out of being taken seriously. Mentioning those things in the follow-up could work very well.
On the other hand, girls think a lot about their looks. If you can glean something from her pictures to mention (like her hair color, clothes, eyebrows, whatever), again that could work pretty well.
I'll send the OP some examples of follow-ups, maybe he can tell them to the next bunch of guys who ask for the opener.
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03-08-2016, 04:59 PM
Good Work OP. It works well as an amplifier of dissonance that they have to have resolved, and you're the one to do it. Something I would suggest is to cold read her profile and just pick something. For example, say she doesn't look like she could vibe with your Whitey Bulger style, or something to that effect.