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06-24-2015, 11:13 AM
Quote: (06-24-2015 10:18 AM)Socrates Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2015 10:25 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2015 10:10 PM)catoblepa Wrote:
I'm actually surprised that all these instances of incels acting crazy are surfacing only now, since sexual liberation and hypergamy failed a lot of men since the 60s. or maybe it's long been an ongoing process and all the maniacs and people displaying anti-social and destructive behaviors can be explained by that among other things.
It's caused by a number of things which reduces the total supply of pussy for young men:
- High rates of divorce and low rates of marriage = more older men competing in the market for young pussy reducing supply
- Obesity epidemic drastically reduces supply of bangable women
- Bitch feminists and lesbians also reduce total supply
- Declining birth rates over time = fewer young girls
End result: omega male armageddon. Lifelong incels who take their rage out on anyone they can before meeting death.
I might add the ubiquitous availability of porn. It does nothing but feed a person's desire. While in the real world there are fewer young, attractive girls available, online they are plentiful and willing to fulfill every desire imaginable. Watch enough of it on a regular basis and frustration levels go through the roof. Add this to someone in an unstable mental condition... boom.
If we're adding increasing availability of porn for males, we should add the female equivalent: e-books (and now theater movies!) like "50 Shades of Grey."
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06-24-2015, 11:32 AM
Quote: (06-24-2015 10:55 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:
He was getting joy from hitting women in the face with a metal rod. My sympathies tend to wane when someone is getting sadistic pleasure from hurting innocent people.
Agree that what he did was wrong, won't defend that. But I also agree with Feldeinsamkeit that asking why he was crazy can also be useful. Think of it less personally, and more like a scientist or historian. In fact, history shows that even seemingly upstanding people can commit horrible crimes, given bad circumstances (Nazi Germany and the Holocaust, etc). Again though, I won't say this particular guy's circumstances warranted what he did (never mind the Nazis).
Quote: (06-24-2015 10:55 AM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:
Where the hell was his family in all of this someone with this kind of personality would've shown signs from a young age.
Not sure about this particular guy's family background, but at least on this forum, it's a well-worn observation that the Western family unit has been decaying for some time, and unfortunately but especially, for African-Americans such as this guy (see RoK's "How Black America Has Predicted Our Future":
http://www.returnofkings.com/2090/how-bl...our-future ).
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06-24-2015, 12:00 PM
No game could save him when he was able to do such action. Sure the answer why someone do crazy things are often to simple. Also when someone go amok. Often we then look for a simple answer then go deeper into the reasons. Because not all of them have psychological patterns, often they are more normal to us then we want to accept. Just one drop to much. So the question how much you guys can take?
On the other hand a lot of other people have a bad life too and don't go that crazy.
To some point I understand this guy. God I was so often rejected and I did nothing really different to my friends that had more luck. On the other hand I also fucked up some situations. So it was more a numbers game and I had not that much opportunities. Still tricky in my area now. Bad logistics, small town, conservative mindset and some other things too. Anyway what was mind blowing for me: Going to South America, more or less by accident. Well there I feel the difference. I did not feel like I'm invisible. Don't know why but be a blond, blue eyed muscular German ain't negative there. And I did not fucked it up like I did in Germany.
What I want to say: Yes, some guys are super strange creepers that will be forever alone because they lack basic social skills. Probably he was one of those because hit on 150 women should be a numbers game at the end. Even I did numbers game at first and had success. The other thing is that he never left his shell. We all know that sometimes your marked value is in an other place different. Compare to the hard times I have in my country, its super easy for me abroad. Don't know why kind of yin and yang balance thing I guess.
So before I start to go amok and kill myself I would switch the location. When your goal is to kill you anyway, well you can still do a cheap 1 - 3 month trip somewhere and try a difference.
Furthermore the last thing, only asian women? Its more or less a proof that he was a creeper with mental issues. I can understand a preference quite well but some are so much into their nutshell that they miss a lot of opportunities.
I had my dark times too, guess most here, frustration and so on. But I never started to hate women. I love them, they are great. They are tricky and complicated but when you think negative you will attract the negative ones. I keep my positive mindset and be a little bit smart and aware and you filter the bad ones quite easy. When you just meet bad women / people / circumstances, I believe the reason is you.
But maybe there was nothing that could save him, some people are just to far out of society and he seems like one of them. For me, before I start a lonely life in sexual frustration I just go abroad.
The point with prostitutes, well its legal in Germany. Did you guys know that some go there for talk? Its not only the sex, its that some guys feel lonely and have nobody to talk. And thats the difference between be able to pull a girl and a prostitute. When you just look for sex, well its ok. But when you never be able to make a girl like you without money, you feel like you are an alien. Its one of the most negative feelings in the world when you cant create an emotional attraction to other people. When a girl touch you because of you and not because you pay her.
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06-24-2015, 12:05 PM
As if black men don't have a hard enough time getting with American Asian women as is, especially on the super racist East Coast.
When it comes to game, I'm a huge believer of LOCATION, especially for black men. And despite everyone and their dog bragging about NYC, I don't see the big deal about it. It's a huge ground of SJW liberals, has a huge income gap, racially segregated to a T, and just plain overcrowded. It's probablt better than DC and Toronto, but that's like saying autism is better than mental retardation. And for black men, particularly those who don't want to "coon and swag" it up, leaving America is the most fullproof option. But if that's not an option, the more West one goes, the better the results.
Granted this guy sounded mentally disturbed, so this wouldn't made a difference for him. But I wouldn't be surprised if some of the headbutting accusations are exacerbated. The MSM definitely has it in for black men, and what steams America up more than a black man with a white female is a black man with an Asian female.
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06-24-2015, 04:10 PM
150 Asian chicks and not one nibble? This guy was just insane, bad game or not. The times I've seen Asian women dating outside their race is with either white or black guys. The guy had a shot. Shoulda called that Justin Wayne fella.
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06-24-2015, 04:23 PM
As Aaron Clarey would say: "The father could not be reached for comment."
Nothing that we could have done for this poor, sadistic bastard; but a father in the home might have helped him.
[Note: the single mother background is merely an assumption; an extremely plausible assumption.]
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06-24-2015, 04:58 PM
Quote: (06-24-2015 12:11 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (06-24-2015 11:13 AM)262 Wrote:
Quote: (06-24-2015 10:18 AM)Socrates Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2015 10:25 PM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2015 10:10 PM)catoblepa Wrote:
I'm actually surprised that all these instances of incels acting crazy are surfacing only now, since sexual liberation and hypergamy failed a lot of men since the 60s. or maybe it's long been an ongoing process and all the maniacs and people displaying anti-social and destructive behaviors can be explained by that among other things.
It's caused by a number of things which reduces the total supply of pussy for young men:
- High rates of divorce and low rates of marriage = more older men competing in the market for young pussy reducing supply
- Obesity epidemic drastically reduces supply of bangable women
- Bitch feminists and lesbians also reduce total supply
- Declining birth rates over time = fewer young girls
End result: omega male armageddon. Lifelong incels who take their rage out on anyone they can before meeting death.
I might add the ubiquitous availability of porn. It does nothing but feed a person's desire. While in the real world there are fewer young, attractive girls available, online they are plentiful and willing to fulfill every desire imaginable. Watch enough of it on a regular basis and frustration levels go through the roof. Add this to someone in an unstable mental condition... boom.
If we're adding increasing availability of porn for males, we should add the female equivalent: e-books (and now theater movies!) like "50 Shades of Grey."
I believe celebrity culture poisons women's minds more than anything else. They see all these hot and famous guys, and suddenly the dude with a 9-5 job just isn't good enough for them. And think: this started way back in the 1950's, then you see an explosion of divorces throughout the 1960's, 70's, and 80's for every group of Americans.
Agreed, western media in general is designed to appeal to women's lowest most basic impulses and then celebrate it.
Right now the mainstream's greatest focus is to glorify female hypergamy under the guise of equality. With its endless character narratives of women living the 'strong & independent lifestyle' all with consistent, uniform conclusions: glorification of the woman who lived the 'you can have it all' mantra and, in doing so, beat the male oppressor at his own game. It's working because we're now well into the second generation of this propaganda. The parents were inundated with it and now girls are raised with it as their religion.
Men and women will remain divided and conquered by the system as long as the narrative of having to overcome female inferiority is allowed to prey on the minds of young girls.
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06-24-2015, 05:08 PM
Quote: (06-24-2015 01:28 PM)Vitriol Wrote:
Success in the U.S. in 2015 is mostly defined as things that make one attractive to the opposite sex: good physical condition, socially adept, financially successful, etc.
True. However, this guy seemed to have all three of these elements.
He had enough sociability and salesmanship to have his own interesting start-up with celebrities wearing his product.
He was definitely a good looking, stylish guy with shit going for him. If anything, being black would have been a plus for him living in NYC among all the hipsters.
With just an ounce of confidence and game he could have cleaned up in NYC as well as other urban centers.
I guarantee with a bit of guidance these time-bombs could be diffused and lives would be saved.
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06-24-2015, 05:10 PM
Quote: (06-24-2015 12:05 PM)SuS Wrote:
As if black men don't have a hard enough time getting with American Asian women as is, especially on the super racist East Coast.
When it comes to game, I'm a huge believer of LOCATION, especially for black men. And despite everyone and their dog bragging about NYC, I don't see the big deal about it. It's a huge ground of SJW liberals, has a huge income gap, racially segregated to a T, and just plain overcrowded. It's probablt better than DC and Toronto, but that's like saying autism is better than mental retardation. And for black men, particularly those who don't want to "coon and swag" it up, leaving America is the most fullproof option. But if that's not an option, the more West one goes, the better the results.
Granted this guy sounded mentally disturbed, so this wouldn't made a difference for him. But I wouldn't be surprised if some of the headbutting accusations are exacerbated. The MSM definitely has it in for black men, and what steams America up more than a black man with a white female is a black man with an Asian female.
These are very interesting observations. A lot of people in my circle, especially blacks, have reached the same conclusions regarding location as you have. Huge metro areas the further west are your best bet. I cannot say for sure because I haven't been to a lot of these areas, but I may decide to spend some time in a few cities below in the few niche cities for interracial couples.
Denver - Dallas - Phoenix* - San Diego - Seattle to name a few
I am also hearing that metro areas in the midwest are also palatable for black men looking for other dating options. Not really a fan of the midwest for other reasons, but Minneapolis, Memphis, Lansing, Cleveland, Chicago, and around the Kansas City metro area are also decent. Some cities I mentioned above are integrated cities, where everyone of different backgrounds gets along and has many friends of different backgrounds, not just where people coexist. I hope this makes sense. Not arguing the merits of multiculturalism, but you guys will have to be able to distinguish between the two.
I think you and I both share sentiments about the East Coast. I left DC last November and several parts were hostile. Other parts were docile and welcoming, but that is only because of its international status.
A lot of minorities, especially on the East Coast think they will score points with "the establishment" if they vilify or viciously oppose blacks which is partly why the dating landscape is tougher on the East Coast, despite its liberal identity. It's also why you see predominantly white social circles, white-asian circles, or "token" circles in those areas. They say they are open-minded and accepting, but their actions dictate otherwise. It's subtle, but you definitely notice it.
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06-24-2015, 06:31 PM
Asians are not nearly as Anti-Black on the East Coast in my opinion compared to the West Coast...
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06-24-2015, 07:22 PM
Quote: (06-24-2015 07:01 PM)kleyau Wrote:
Quote: (06-24-2015 05:10 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:
Quote: (06-24-2015 12:05 PM)SuS Wrote:
As if black men don't have a hard enough time getting with American Asian women as is, especially on the super racist East Coast.
When it comes to game, I'm a huge believer of LOCATION, especially for black men. And despite everyone and their dog bragging about NYC, I don't see the big deal about it. It's a huge ground of SJW liberals, has a huge income gap, racially segregated to a T, and just plain overcrowded. It's probablt better than DC and Toronto, but that's like saying autism is better than mental retardation. And for black men, particularly those who don't want to "coon and swag" it up, leaving America is the most fullproof option. But if that's not an option, the more West one goes, the better the results.
Granted this guy sounded mentally disturbed, so this wouldn't made a difference for him. But I wouldn't be surprised if some of the headbutting accusations are exacerbated. The MSM definitely has it in for black men, and what steams America up more than a black man with a white female is a black man with an Asian female.
These are very interesting observations. A lot of people in my circle, especially blacks, have reached the same conclusions regarding location as you have. Huge metro areas the further west are your best bet. I cannot say for sure because I haven't been to a lot of these areas, but I may decide to spend some time in a few cities below in the few niche cities for interracial couples.
Denver - Dallas - Phoenix* - San Diego - Seattle to name a few
I am also hearing that metro areas in the midwest are also palatable for black men looking for other dating options. Not really a fan of the midwest for other reasons, but Minneapolis, Memphis, Lansing, Cleveland, Chicago, and around the Kansas City metro area are also decent. Some cities I mentioned above are integrated cities, where everyone of different backgrounds gets along and has many friends of different backgrounds, not just where people coexist. I hope this makes sense. Not arguing the merits of multiculturalism, but you guys will have to be able to distinguish between the two.
I think you and I both share sentiments about the East Coast. I left DC last November and several parts were hostile. Other parts were docile and welcoming, but that is only because of its international status.
A lot of minorities, especially on the East Coast think they will score points with "the establishment" if they vilify or viciously oppose blacks which is partly why the dating landscape is tougher on the East Coast, despite its liberal identity. It's also why you see predominantly white social circles, white-asian circles, or "token" circles in those areas. They say they are open-minded and accepting, but their actions dictate otherwise. It's subtle, but you definitely notice it.
Easiest way to get laid if you're not white?
Move to a rural area or just find a country bar, buy a pair of wrangler's, cowboy boots and cowboy hat and learn how to two step.
Before Jake locked up Cedo he had a good post on this. He was trying to game women in southeast asia, so he dressed like a korean pop star.
If you're way different race wise, you have to blend in culture wise, easiest way being dances and clothes.
Why don't they cover themselves in flour? That'll probably help too. I know way more "incels" that are white than those who identify as minorities.
What I am simply pointing out is the cultural climate. That's just the way it is. Also, blending in for the brothas cannot consist of "the dances and clothes." A lot of people need to be able to perceive blacks as militant in order to respect them. Once they lose the "coon and swag" mentality, as someone said above, it becomes an issue. Why? Because you have internal forces in the black community dragging them down or as Uncle Toms, whatever the hell that is. Also, your so-called liberals fixate in these qualities that are classically "black" or "hood" and once you step outside of that, you are then a "threat" or "weird" or "acting white." It's a good thing that they are seen as progressive and "cool" -- the culture helps with that.
Asians and Indians will typically flock toward "white culture" and bastardize (i.e. subtly and openly) blacks and other minorities because they feel it will allow them to secure their spot on the colonialist pecking order, which is why you see a lot of social circles the way they are. I only notice this among the Americanized Asians and not so much the ones from abroad; they seem a lot more insular. These are my observations from the East Coast I am talking about. Things seem dandy where I live, for the most part. Great thread.
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06-24-2015, 08:12 PM
As an asian american male I find asian american girls to be the most racist ignorant hypergamous bitches ever. Specifically Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese asian american females in that order.
Lots of unique challenges for the asian male in the US, especially if you're not tall or good looking, but persistent application to become a better person and communicator can help you make progress.
Been said over and over again but a focus on becoming a fun and outgoing person who enjoys life nets better results than obsessing on getting laid. I have made this mistake before but caring less about women and more about building relationships and learning how to give emotional value to people is a better strategy.
With that said I have found women of all races respond to me warmly in social situations, even cold approaches despite not getting a close. However, on average I have found asian women to have the coldest ice queen attitudes. And they seem especially frustrated and more often offended because I'm asian.
I don't know what it is, maybe they are projecting their own self view of being asian on to me and must reject me hastily and with maximum prejudice.
This doesn't really apply to fresh off the boat types but many things go into psyche of asian women. Culture plays a big part and you will find other challenges with them, especially if they're from the a upper crust of their culture.
Asian american women though... good luck with you if you got yellow fever.
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06-24-2015, 11:01 PM
I'm noticing that this story is not all over the mainstream media. If this was a White guy who committed these acts attacking random Asian women. This would be front page news like the whole Julien Blanc in Japan fiasco. It's clear this story doesn't fit a mainstream media narrative.
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06-25-2015, 12:14 AM
This guy was way too far gone for help and I have no sympathy for someone boasting about bashing women in the face for a steel rod for exercising their choice to not date him. He hates them for doing the same thing he is doing, rejecting an entire race of people as potential romantic partners...the lack of self-awareness is breathtaking on the one hand and yet also points to stronger evidence of some sort of mental illness.
I have very little sympathy because I did run into those type of characters when I was in grad school. The worst one was a guy who seemed surly but sane, however, after repeated exposure his insanity revealed itself in paranoia, xenophobia, racism, and behaviour in class and in groups that poisoned the environment so much several students later revealed they were close to dropping out of the program. He fixated on chicks to the point of staring creepily (the word is appropriate to use) and unceasingly for hours, following them home, blowing up their phones at all hours of the day, waiting for hours for them to emerge from other classes and picking fights with their boyfriends and husbands. These girls (I knew some of them) probably exchanged 5 sentences in total with this nut, i.e there was no relationship of any sort with him. Several restraining orders were filed. He progressively got worse, getting into fights, fixating on study abroad girls from Europe and FOLLOWING one back to her country, and surprising her with a ring. The poor girl probably exchanged 1 minute of conversation with him when she met him in grad school. We found later on he assaulted a relative with a gun and attacked another with his bare hands and spent time in jail for it. After graudation he went to another country, dated a really stupid girl, tried to marry her and then lost his sanity when her parents stopped it after they investigated him (he lied about his past). He burned down their house, sent poison letters to her employers, bought weapons, scoped out her place of work and showed up in a van with rope and paraphenelia to kidnap her. He's in jail for 8 years, exactly where most of us suspected he would end up.
We would joke about him coming to class one day and going on a shooting spree but it was half-joking. Several of us tried to talk to him, to tell him to stop bothering the girls, to stop being a racist asshole to the non-white international students and to just stop being an overall dick but in one and out of the other. I've seen him "flip" mentally several times, when an international student challenged him in class; his eyes simultaneously reddened and became dead, he swelled in size, started to breath through his nostrils and brought about such a heavy and toxic presence that a 15th century peasant would have called him "possessed".
This is a guy worshiped white girls and put them on a pedestal but would get nasty, crazy and dangerous if he perceived rejection. He had some fundamentally wrong with his wiring and as animals we can sense crazy in others which is why ppl like my former classmate and this black guy get rejected.
These Asian girls trusted their instincts and got hurt for it for rejecting a mentally ill person.
Some ppl are beyond help and he is one of them. In the past, his weirdness would not be tolerated (we're not talking about Bill Gates Aspie like character, we're talking about a mentally ill person) and he would have been institutionalized. Don't romanticize the past, people back then were very intolerant about mental illness and all sorts of individuals (some perfectly sane) were thrown in mad houses.
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06-25-2015, 02:01 AM
Quote: (06-24-2015 04:58 PM)NomadofEU Wrote:
Agreed, western media in general is designed to appeal to women's lowest most basic impulses and then celebrate it.
Right now the mainstream's greatest focus is to glorify female hypergamy under the guise of equality. With its endless character narratives of women living the 'strong & independent lifestyle' all with consistent, uniform conclusions: glorification of the woman who lived the 'you can have it all' mantra and, in doing so, beat the male oppressor at his own game. It's working because we're now well into the second generation of this propaganda. The parents were inundated with it and now girls are raised with it as their religion.
Men and women will remain divided and conquered by the system as long as the narrative of having to overcome female inferiority is allowed to prey on the minds of young girls.
At least the lowest base impulses are being acknowledged in today's media, for the smart kids to pick up on and spot the flaws.
This shit was hidden completely from generations of western men for a really long time and look where that got us.
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06-25-2015, 04:43 AM
The sad thing is you could've replaced the word "African American" with "Too Short", "Too Poor", "Asian", "Autistic", "Ugly", or whatever else.
It's not about who you are it's the style of thinking you use.
Sad story, but it helps me appreciate game all the more.