[~wrIghter~]

(06-25-2015 06:27 PM)Repo Wrote:  

May have more success dropping the asian preference and just say your open to all races, but then only message asian women. Regardless, solid profile I chuckled at a few of the lines.

I actually do this . I'd get girls replying but couldn't number close any of them! I'm on the east coast and you rarely see that combination out and about here in GA. My buddy in SF has banged out a pretty eclectic group of females, included an asian and middle eastern chick. The online stuff is another story alone.

[MdWanderer]

(06-25-2015 11:03 PM)SuS Wrote:  

And these are the kind of conversations I want to have; I could care less either way about some Confederate Flag. I've faced more discrimination from my own so-called "people" and SWPL SJW liberals than from rednecks and hicks. And how you pointed out how blacks and liberal whites tend to see non-ghetto blacks as a "threat" along with the massive racial politics of hating blacks to impress whites (mainly by Asian and Indian females) are why I have so much disdain for the East Coast, especially DC. The only groups I haven't grown to completely despise are Latinos, Asian males, Indian males, and Middle Easterners. Some women, most of whom were either transplants or from the exurbs, have been cool and DTF with simple game and charisma. But for the most part, most people in DC (regardless of race) range from passive-aggressive to outright hateful. And also, people in general, not just in this thread, need to start differentiating between diverse cities where people tolerate each other and integrated cities where one can befriend and date whomever he wants.

But don't get it confused. From the sound of it, the guy the thread is based on was probably beyond any sort of help the best guys in this forum could've provided.

Baltimore is way worse, it's a city full of self hating, crabs-in-the-barrel ghetto blacks and racist, Jewish liberals who live in the suburbs and there is no international community to fall back on unlike DC. The only friends you will basically have up there are whites. Also, DC does have a decent amount of educated, non-ghetto black people and things do get better once you hit the suburbs (I don't go into the city that often myself unless its for a sporting event or my Ben's Chili Bowl fix). Montgomery County, MD which borders DC is a sleeper and not often talked about but its good for black people there.

[262]

(06-26-2015 02:12 AM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 06:27 PM)Repo Wrote:  

May have more success dropping the asian preference and just say your open to all races, but then only message asian women. Regardless, solid profile I chuckled at a few of the lines.

I actually do this . I'd get girls replying but couldn't number close any of them! I'm on the east coast and you rarely see that combination out and about here in GA. My buddy in SF has banged out a pretty eclectic group of females, included an asian and middle eastern chick. The online stuff is another story alone.

Half-serious/half-joking question: I wonder if black guys could do the reverse of what Mindy Kaling's brother did: Black->Indian instead of Indian->Black. Story: http://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalin...-be-black/

[dtpilgrim]

(06-25-2015 06:07 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

Quote:

I'm going to hell for this, but challenge accepted:

http://www.okcupid.com/profile/Dice_Bowtie

Haha and that is better than most of the real okc men profiles. You have to update us with screenshots of your conversations.

It seems Brodiaga was right, as there was at least one Asian girl who responded to the celebrity pics. But so far mr Dice_Bowtie has not been too lucky yet, with a response rate of just about 10%, most not all to enthusiastic.

[the high]

It would have been better if Goldin Boy created a custom profile entry and not just copy and pasted it from his blog. That blatant yellow fever thirst he had on his proile is like repellent to a lot of Asian American girls.

[Clemmo]

^"If you want to be my Oriental Princess". That's a huge red flag right there.

[262]

Ah, OkC ... gotta love those snarky responses. They can't just leave it at blocking him ... no, they have to be snarky.

So glad to be leaving the Anglosphere.

[Il Bersagliere]

(06-26-2015 12:52 PM)262 Wrote:  

Ah, OkC ... gotta love those snarky responses. They can't just leave it at blocking him ... no, they have to be snarky.

So glad to be leaving the Anglosphere.

"No dice." That was painful, dude. I'm seriously howling here. That was the harshest neg-reframe/Agree and Amplify I've ever seen.

But girls screen for that Asian fetish hard, so I can see why.

[MdWanderer]

(06-26-2015 01:54 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 12:52 PM)262 Wrote:  

Ah, OkC ... gotta love those snarky responses. They can't just leave it at blocking him ... no, they have to be snarky.

So glad to be leaving the Anglosphere.

"No dice." That was painful, dude. I'm seriously howling here. That was the harshest neg-reframe/Agree and Amplify I've ever seen.

But girls screen for that Asian fetish hard, so I can see why.

Yeah, he brought it upon himself. As I stated before, most incels I know have one thing in common- pedestalizing a certain race of women.

The same actually works for women too. The emotionally healthy, reliable, loyal, feminine women that I have dated and known tended to be open to all races. I'll trust a black woman who has dated white, hispanic, asian, etc. over a black woman who only prefers black men being black myself.

[262]

(06-25-2015 10:29 AM)262 Wrote:  

You can sometimes read between the lines of the mainstream media to see this. Here's a recent article title on CNN Money that supports the quote above:

"For Millennials, it's good to be young, rich, and female" - http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/28/pf/rich-...ial-women/

Of course, the article spins this as a positive, but the obvious question that the article skips over is how these young females got rich in the first place... *cough* looks/family wealth/family connections *cough*

Note that I'm not supporting any sort of socialism though. Just saying the US isn't a meritocratic heaven. There are also obviously less meritocratic countries out there.

Also interesting to note that this mainstream article doesn't advocate for any of the usual socialism in this instance either - and we all know why. If it were about young rich males, it would have a VERY different angle - think of the recent "frat boy" articles.

H/T to Zelcorpion & his twitter feed - young females using looks to get rich: http://www.economist.com/news/united-sta...poon-sugar

Quote:

According to SeekingArrangement, a firm based in Las Vegas, two-thirds of sugar-baby graduates have no student debt.

Quote:

Young men keen for cash from a “sugar mama” have few prospects.

Of course, no feminist calls for equality here.

[SuS]

(06-26-2015 07:48 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 11:03 PM)SuS Wrote:  

And these are the kind of conversations I want to have; I could care less either way about some Confederate Flag. I've faced more discrimination from my own so-called "people" and SWPL SJW liberals than from rednecks and hicks. And how you pointed out how blacks and liberal whites tend to see non-ghetto blacks as a "threat" along with the massive racial politics of hating blacks to impress whites (mainly by Asian and Indian females) are why I have so much disdain for the East Coast, especially DC. The only groups I haven't grown to completely despise are Latinos, Asian males, Indian males, and Middle Easterners. Some women, most of whom were either transplants or from the exurbs, have been cool and DTF with simple game and charisma. But for the most part, most people in DC (regardless of race) range from passive-aggressive to outright hateful. And also, people in general, not just in this thread, need to start differentiating between diverse cities where people tolerate each other and integrated cities where one can befriend and date whomever he wants.

But don't get it confused. From the sound of it, the guy the thread is based on was probably beyond any sort of help the best guys in this forum could've provided.

Baltimore is way worse, it's a city full of self hating, crabs-in-the-barrel ghetto blacks and racist, Jewish liberals who live in the suburbs and there is no international community to fall back on unlike DC. The only friends you will basically have up there are whites. Also, DC does have a decent amount of educated, non-ghetto black people and things do get better once you hit the suburbs (I don't go into the city that often myself unless its for a sporting event or my Ben's Chili Bowl fix). Montgomery County, MD which borders DC is a sleeper and not often talked about but its good for black people there.

I feel you for the most part. But the reason why DC (the area) is better are because of Montgomery County and Northern VA, which from my observation is where most of the non-ghetto blacks reside. Living and hanging out in NoVA and MoCo is the only reason why I'm still sane despite being in the DMV. Take those out, and the DC Area becomes no different than Detroit, Birmingham, St Louis, and Baltimore.

But don't mind my venting. It just steams me how bourgie, ghetto, segregated, and plain anti-social DC and most of the inner suburbs are despite its transient nature and "liberal" reputation. Whereas in the West I can get a few numbers, a frequent lay, or at least have a good conversation when I go out either at day or night, in DC, I'm seen as a "solo loser" when I go to events designated to meet new people; don't even mention about going to bars at night. But thanks again for the insight, dude.

[Repo]

Yeah seriously cut those asian lines. They are essentially anti-game for most asian women. The point is to show that it is his game holding him back, not his looks, no?

[BDawg]

Here is a NYC "player" with a similar problem.

[Il Bersagliere]

(06-26-2015 09:25 PM)BDawg Wrote:  

Here is a NYC "player" with a similar problem.

First 2 approaches made my skin crawl.

"I wanna buy you a diamond ring." Are you fucking serious? He needs to stop going direct for now and get some better material. The anime/manga characterization is very poor. I noticed that when he opened the 3 girls, he opened indirect and that was an ok set until he said "no guy will ever date a fat chick." He was getting some IOIs, but direct is gonna kill his progress.

Also, the "no one speaks English in this neighborhood" qualifier needs to be reframed a bit more playfully. It comes of as really disrespectful the way it comes off.

I need to go lie down.

[TravelerKai]

(06-26-2015 10:35 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 09:25 PM)BDawg Wrote:  

Here is a NYC "player" with a similar problem.

First 2 approaches made my skin crawl.

"I wanna buy you a diamond ring." Are you fucking serious? He needs to stop going direct for now and get some better material. The anime/manga characterization is very poor. I noticed that when he opened the 3 girls, he opened indirect and that was an ok set until he said "no guy will ever date a fat chick." He was getting some IOIs, but direct is gonna kill his progress.

Also, the "no one speaks English in this neighborhood" qualifier needs to be reframed a bit more playfully. It comes of as really disrespectful the way it comes off.

I need to go lie down.

I just sent him an email. Let's hope he gets it and receives it well.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(06-26-2015 09:19 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Yeah seriously cut those asian lines. They are essentially anti-game for most asian women. The point is to show that it is his game holding him back, not his looks, no?

It's like we live in a day and age where common reason is thrown to the wind. If the roles were reversed the same result would occur. More men need to treat game in the sense if they had killer looks and could pull what they want if an average looking chick came up to you and did the same shit would it fly by them?

[~wrIghter~]

(06-26-2015 08:36 AM)262 Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 02:12 AM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  

(06-25-2015 06:27 PM)Repo Wrote:  

May have more success dropping the asian preference and just say your open to all races, but then only message asian women. Regardless, solid profile I chuckled at a few of the lines.

I actually do this . I'd get girls replying but couldn't number close any of them! I'm on the east coast and you rarely see that combination out and about here in GA. My buddy in SF has banged out a pretty eclectic group of females, included an asian and middle eastern chick. The online stuff is another story alone.

Half-serious/half-joking question: I wonder if black guys could do the reverse of what Mindy Kaling's brother did: Black->Indian instead of Indian->Black. Story: http://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalin...-be-black/

In high school I spoke really good spanish. I got away with saying I was domincan for a bit, later told them that I was joking. I think its a few things you can get away with, depending upon looks.

[Repo]

Not sure what your saying hwuzhere. Are you saying looks is his problem and not lack of game? Because all I'm saying is that his lack of game is holding him back, not looks. Not sure if I misunderstood you.

[dtpilgrim]

(06-26-2015 09:19 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Yeah seriously cut those asian lines. They are essentially anti-game for most asian women. The point is to show that it is his game holding him back, not his looks, no?

You're right. I've sent a total of 126 messages, all to Asian women, and got 6/126 responses, which is a response rate of 4%. Of those 6, only one response was actually good.

I'm gonna start a new campaign with some new variables, to see if they make a difference:

1. Move to the West Coast where there are more Asians.
2. Change the profile to remove the Asian preference, among other tweaks.
3. Change up the photo's and their description.

Honestly a response rate of 4% is the WORST 've ever seen for online, and I have a bunch of profiles with alternating variables of LooksProfile TextMessage Content. (My best profile of Looks/Profile/Message combination got 133/292 = 45% response rate).

Even my Elliot Rodgers account got a better response rate than Dice_Bowtie. (12/66 = 18%; Germany so no risk of recognition).
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/Is_Lavista

Maybe there is truth in the assertion that NYC Asian women just don't prefer Black men. Maybe mr Bowtie was simply too low on the SMP looks wise. Maybe all his style and semi-fame as a consequence of his bowties was irrelevant for his SMV. Maybe he was in the wrong city.

I'll send a new batch of questions in LA or San Fracisco to see if it mattered.

Edit: And yes, I'm doing this because I want to (hopefully) prove that game COULD have saved this tragedy from happening. I'll try to apply all I know of Online Game to give him the best OkC game possible with the photo's/story/first message I can construct.

[~wrIghter~]

Damn, I should let you moderate my profile, haha. I think the west coast will prove to be a pretty big change in the chance of response rate. While I've had better receptiveness since improving my profile, you're not getting too far with a lot of these chicks(meaning dates, even coffee). I like this experiment though.

[Suits]

(06-27-2015 11:17 AM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 09:19 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Yeah seriously cut those asian lines. They are essentially anti-game for most asian women. The point is to show that it is his game holding him back, not his looks, no?

You're right. I've sent a total of 126 messages, all to Asian women, and got 6/126 responses, which is a response rate of 4%. Of those 6, only one response was actually good.

I'm gonna start a new campaign with some new variables, to see if they make a difference:

1. Move to the West Coast where there are more Asians.
2. Change the profile to remove the Asian preference, among other tweaks.
3. Change up the photo's and their description.

Honestly a response rate of 4% is the WORST 've ever seen for online, and I have a bunch of profiles with alternating variables of LooksProfile TextMessage Content. (My best profile of Looks/Profile/Message combination got 133/292 = 45% response rate).

Even my Elliot Rodgers account got a better response rate than Dice_Bowtie. (12/66 = 18%; Germany so no risk of recognition).
http://www.okcupid.com/profile/Is_Lavista

Maybe there is truth in the assertion that NYC Asian women just don't prefer Black men. Maybe mr Bowtie was simply too low on the SMP looks wise. Maybe all his style and semi-fame as a consequence of his bowties was irrelevant for his SMV. Maybe he was in the wrong city.

I'll send a new batch of questions in LA or San Fracisco to see if it mattered.

Edit: And yes, I'm doing this because I want to (hopefully) prove that game COULD have saved this tragedy from happening. I'll try to apply all I know of Online Game to give him the best OkC game possible with the photo's/story/first message I can construct.

I'd like to see what happens if you stay in New York, but remove references to an Asian preference.

[WalterBlack]

(06-26-2015 09:25 PM)BDawg Wrote:  

Here is a NYC "player" with a similar problem.

This guy’s a fucking moron – most of the stuff he’s saying is straight up racist. How can it be acceptable to say “ching-chong” to a Chinese woman?! It’s so bad, it could pass as a “trolling Chinese FOBs” video. I wonder if there’s any footage of him using those on the lines on Chinese-American women and them telling him to go fuck himself.

If he wants to impress Chinese FOB women he should learn some basic Chinese – they LOVE it when a non-Chinese person speaks a few lines of Mandarin to them. If she’s Chinese-American, he should treat her like a white girl – any mention of Chinese culture is a turn off for her since it sets off the “yellow fever” alarm in her head.

[Mentavious]

I've only been successful with Asian girls while in college. I've never actually picked up an Asian girl from some bar/day game away from the college scene. I'm out here in the Upper Midwest though so I don't know how it is on the west coast. It seems like brothers need to head to canada or the west coast for an easier time...otherwise stick to colleges

[TravelerKai]

(06-29-2015 12:38 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 09:25 PM)BDawg Wrote:  

Here is a NYC "player" with a similar problem.

This guy’s a fucking moron – most of the stuff he’s saying is straight up racist. How can it be acceptable to say “ching-chong” to a Chinese woman?! It’s so bad, it could pass as a “trolling Chinese FOBs” video. I wonder if there’s any footage of him using those on the lines on Chinese-American women and them telling him to go fuck himself.

If he wants to impress Chinese FOB women he should learn some basic Chinese – they LOVE it when a non-Chinese person speaks a few lines of Mandarin to them. If she’s Chinese-American, he should treat her like a white girl – any mention of Chinese culture is a turn off for her since it sets off the “yellow fever” alarm in her head.

Well he replied back to my email and signed up on the forum. He is checking out my dating guide. Maybe he can turn that stuff around and become a top notch player on RVF that specializes in Asians. Well, that's my hope at least. One man at a time.

If you guys find more dudes from time to time that can be reached out to, speak up and let me or others know so we can spread the good word. If we are lucky we can add to our ranks and coach up the next group of young cats. We all had to start off somewhere. You never know who might become the next WIA, DistantLight, 20Nation, VincentVinturi, etc.

[deboinair]

(06-23-2015 06:49 AM)Libertas Wrote:  

He was found dead yesterday:

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Tyr...55991.html

At least this nut didn't kill anybody.

Edit: Also, as I was commenting on my blog, this proves that this isn't only a white male nut job phenomenon like Dylan Roof. Goes to the heart of the things Quintus said.

Don't see how you can compare this at all to that coward Dylan Roof. If you lined up the stories. White male nut jobs outnumber black male nut jobs by far with doing crazy shit with shootings.

Too bad he was mental ill and fixated on Asian women. As a black male in racist Amerikkka if you are going to go nuts on somebody it should be the crooked elite members of society.

Asians in the US are known to be white washed, so I don't understand why some black men seem so fascinated to get one. I've had a few, but they wanted to talk to me. I damn sure didn't chase them. I would take a Colombiana over an Asian chick any day. IMO you have to sift through a lot of Asian chicks to fine the pretty one with a woman's body instead of that normal 12 y/o boy shape they tend to have. Plus some remind me of tadpoles. lol