Black man kills himself after attacking Asian girls for being rejected [retitled]
06-23-2015, 04:45 PM
Why did he have such a thing for asian women?
Quote: (06-23-2015 11:46 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
From some of the articles I've read, he seems like a high-functioning paranoid schizophrenic who fixated on Asian women -- as opposed to the low-functioning schizophrenics who obsess over UFOs and "the government."
People need to understand that mental illness hits in degrees. Schizophrenia doesn't always mean you're bonkers-crazy. Sometimes people are just "off" because they have the symptoms and weird thoughts, but aren't hit as hard by them.
Why isn't this discussed more? Because mental illness hits far more men than women and this society obsesses over women's issues (i.e. anorexia) and jails or shoots men who can't function properly.
But this guy, Elliott Rodger and Dylan Roof all have commonalities in their unrealistic, obsessive thought patterns.
Once again, I'll say what I said regarding Rodger: Game wouldn't have helped. And the problems we talk about here (hypergamy, etc.) have no bearing on someone like this guy. My feeling is that had this been 1955, all these men would have been "put away in the looney bin," as people used to callously say. They would not have found wives in any era, no matter what the sociological makeup was like.
Mentally ill men with paranoid delusions need professional help, not daygame seminars. If you're looking to place blame, place it at the feet of a misguided chivalrous society that throws away damaged men, from the mentally ill to wounded veterans.
Quote: (06-23-2015 05:31 PM)civpro Wrote:
So this black guy would have rather died than consider dating someone of his own race.
LOL.
Quote: (06-23-2015 05:26 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:
I know this may come off with a lack of elegance, but I am glad he killed himself and no one else. I have been in a deep depression in my life that was the worst six months of hell I had ever experienced, I contemplated suicide, acted in a self destructive way, and tried to drink every ounce of alcohol available. It was truly as bad as it ever was, homeless, alone, sleeping where I could with no self respect, possibly facing prison (long story). Never ever, not once, did I want to hurt other people, I wanted to hurt myself plenty, but never others.
At least he was decent enough to only kill himself, shame he could not find the help he needed.
Quote: (06-23-2015 05:36 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2015 05:31 PM)civpro Wrote:
So this black guy would have rather died than consider dating someone of his own race.
LOL.
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Quote: (06-23-2015 05:31 PM)civpro Wrote:Reading his blog, he prefaces all this with general statements like...
So this black guy would have rather died than consider dating someone of his own race.
LOL.
Quote: (06-23-2015 06:00 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:
I know this might go against what a lot of guys stand for, but I think he may have been better off if he didn’t approach. There must have been something about his vibe that scared off all of these Asian women.
He should have tried online dating – he could have messaged as many Asian women as he could, and he would definitely have got a few replies and then he could have gone from there. A lot of SE Asian women are open to black men.
Quote: (06-23-2015 07:04 AM)Repo Wrote:
"I just couldn’t understand why Asian Women didn’t find me attractive.
Quote: (06-23-2015 05:22 PM)Snurby Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2015 11:46 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
From some of the articles I've read, he seems like a high-functioning paranoid schizophrenic who fixated on Asian women -- as opposed to the low-functioning schizophrenics who obsess over UFOs and "the government."
People need to understand that mental illness hits in degrees. Schizophrenia doesn't always mean you're bonkers-crazy. Sometimes people are just "off" because they have the symptoms and weird thoughts, but aren't hit as hard by them.
Why isn't this discussed more? Because mental illness hits far more men than women and this society obsesses over women's issues (i.e. anorexia) and jails or shoots men who can't function properly.
But this guy, Elliott Rodger and Dylan Roof all have commonalities in their unrealistic, obsessive thought patterns.
Once again, I'll say what I said regarding Rodger: Game wouldn't have helped. And the problems we talk about here (hypergamy, etc.) have no bearing on someone like this guy. My feeling is that had this been 1955, all these men would have been "put away in the looney bin," as people used to callously say. They would not have found wives in any era, no matter what the sociological makeup was like.
Mentally ill men with paranoid delusions need professional help, not daygame seminars. If you're looking to place blame, place it at the feet of a misguided chivalrous society that throws away damaged men, from the mentally ill to wounded veterans.
While I agree overall, the issue of nature vs nurture comes up whenever I see a tragedy like this -- was he truly condemned and unfixable from the start, or did he slowly turn to such desperation with each rejection as a result of lack of positive father figure/male guidance.
He was apparently a competent and respected artist with gallery shows in New York, so not a complete mental incompetent in all areas of his life.
I would need to know a bit more about his life/upbringing before writing him off as a hopeless example of mental illness from the get-go.
Quote: (06-23-2015 06:47 PM)lemko Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2015 05:22 PM)Snurby Wrote:
Quote: (06-23-2015 11:46 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
From some of the articles I've read, he seems like a high-functioning paranoid schizophrenic who fixated on Asian women -- as opposed to the low-functioning schizophrenics who obsess over UFOs and "the government."
People need to understand that mental illness hits in degrees. Schizophrenia doesn't always mean you're bonkers-crazy. Sometimes people are just "off" because they have the symptoms and weird thoughts, but aren't hit as hard by them.
Why isn't this discussed more? Because mental illness hits far more men than women and this society obsesses over women's issues (i.e. anorexia) and jails or shoots men who can't function properly.
But this guy, Elliott Rodger and Dylan Roof all have commonalities in their unrealistic, obsessive thought patterns.
Once again, I'll say what I said regarding Rodger: Game wouldn't have helped. And the problems we talk about here (hypergamy, etc.) have no bearing on someone like this guy. My feeling is that had this been 1955, all these men would have been "put away in the looney bin," as people used to callously say. They would not have found wives in any era, no matter what the sociological makeup was like.
Mentally ill men with paranoid delusions need professional help, not daygame seminars. If you're looking to place blame, place it at the feet of a misguided chivalrous society that throws away damaged men, from the mentally ill to wounded veterans.
While I agree overall, the issue of nature vs nurture comes up whenever I see a tragedy like this -- was he truly condemned and unfixable from the start, or did he slowly turn to such desperation with each rejection as a result of lack of positive father figure/male guidance.
He was apparently a competent and respected artist with gallery shows in New York, so not a complete mental incompetent in all areas of his life.
I would need to know a bit more about his life/upbringing before writing him off as a hopeless example of mental illness from the get-go.
I'm surprised he couldn't parlay his talent as an artist into attracting a woman. He must've been pretty successful as an artist to have gallery shows in NYC. I've known plenty of extremely talented people who've never managed to have a gallery show in NYC. Plenty of women attend art shows and are excited to meet the artist. Weirdness wouldn't have even hurt him as a lot of artists are quite eccentric. He must've been really way out there, extremely ugly, had poor hygiene or a combination of all three. Were there plenty of black, white, and Hispanic women throwing themselves at him and he ignored them in his singular quest for an Asian?