Quote: (04-08-2019 09:46 PM)TripleG Wrote:
Leonard's advice doesn't really make sense, especially the first part:
"Married today. (25 years old, 20 year old wife)
First kid one year later (26 years old, 21 year old wife)
Second kid 2 years later (28 years old, 23 year old wife)
Third kid 2 years later (30 years old, 25 year old wife)
10 years later:
40 years old with enough energy to keep up with his:
35 year old wife
14 year old kid
12 year old kid
10 year old kid"
There are very few of us (only military officers come to mind) who could provide a comfortable life for 3 kids by the time we are 30 assuming that the wife does not work (even if the wife works one can assume that almost all her salary will go towards raising 3 toddlers via daycare or nanny).
So most of the forum members here should not consider the first choice at all else they may have regrets down the line and even a mid-life crisis (see Tiger Woods). Also, IMHO your 20s are the most productive years of your life to advance your career and date. Being hitched that young will kill your drive. Kids should be saved till one is in their 30s, has an established career and has played the field already.
My 2 cents.
While I think 25 may be a bit young to start a family these days (I was 26 when I had kid #1 of four kids), the notion that a guy can start having a family at age 40 is just flat out retarded. It's the flip side of the same coin that tells women they can wait into their mid to late 30s to start having kids. Most guys that wait that long will end up getting hitched with some chick in her mid 30s like LDN described and having small kids when you're both that old would be just pure torture. That is, if the bitch can even pump out any kids at that age without fertility treatment.
From a biologic perspective, LDN is also right, men should ideally have kids in their mid 20s and women in their early 20s. It's only because things are FUBAR that everyone, men and women both, feel like they gotta ride on the cock/cunt carousel for years upon years upon years before they mature enough to finally become adults and start having children. I can't tell you how many late 30s, early 40s couples I meet in my business that have waited until then to start a family. With these folks, do you know how many kids they usually end up having to form their "family"? One. One lousy fucking kid is all these selfish douchebag late 30s men and women can handle having. All because they wanted to have fun and "get financially stable" first. If you want to know why the West is fucked, this right here is all you need to know. How in the hell can a married couple just have one kid? To me that is the height of the selfishness of the modern day man and woman.
So because these people couldn't think of starting a family 10 years earlier, the kid they do have has to suffer being an only child. No camaraderie with a sibling, just the parents around. So when these parents get old and sick, not only will their only child be still very young to have to take care of the elderly parents, they also have to bear this burden all alone, since they have no siblings to help them with their parents. When the parents finally do die, then they have no other blood relations other than maybe their own kids. Is it any wonder that our modern era is filled with some of the most selfish, messed up men and women in maybe the history of mankind? Any dude that thinks he's going to wait until his late 30s, early 40s to start a family and do just fine with it is one hell of a delusional fool.
As to the OP, dude you're 25, you're not a little kid anymore, come up with a 10 year plan and execute it. If it involves starting a family (and I think it should because that's what adults do) then I'd say 32-33 is the best age for you to have kid #1. That gives you 7-8 years to figure shit out. Surely that should be more than enough time, no? Please don't tell me you need a full 15 years to figure out where you're going in life.
