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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce
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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Quote: (12-16-2018 04:43 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

I always thought his wife looked like a copy of him, but with a blonde wig. I didn't see what all the fuss was about.

Look, switch the glasses and the beard to her, and the wig to him. They're interchangeable.

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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Quote: (12-16-2018 05:46 AM)John Dodds Wrote:  

Lessons we can learn?
Don't get married in the western world.

Not even to a foreign girl. That's a mistake a lot of guys make. They disregard Western women but then marry a foreign girl and bring her back to the West where she gets poisoned by the environment and people in it until she eventually becomes Western and uses the same Western laws and culture against them that a native-born Western woman would have. If a man desires to marry a foreign woman, it is best that he move to her country (assuming that the laws and culture are not poisonous there) or at least that they both move together to a third country where the laws and culture are such that said country and society likely have a reasonably high chance of surviving into the next century barring some global cataclysm or act of God.
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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Strauss may not be the stud that some imagine mhim to be but kudos to him for the personak transformation he underwent in The Game . The book is also entertaining and a good survey of game pre smart phone. He's a good writer.

I think he has a sexual addiction based on insecurities so I'm not surprised his marriage didn't work. Most in the West don't anymore
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#29

Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Lessons:

- Don't marry a clearly unstable woman.
- Don't marry if you don't want to have children.
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#30

Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Quote: (12-16-2018 04:32 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

Strauss may not be the stud that some imagine mhim to be but kudos to him for the personak transformation he underwent in The Game . The book is also entertaining and a good survey of game pre smart phone. He's a good writer.

I think he has a sexual addiction based on insecurities so I'm not surprised his marriage didn't work. Most in the West don't anymore

I'll second part of that. I don't have much respect for his "game" or his manliness, but his writing and storytelling skills are exception.

His other book about prepping ("emergency" I believe it's called) was also very entertaining. I'm planning on going to one of those escape courses he talks about because I figure that learning how to get out of restraints and evade a manhunt would be a lot of fun, and it also can't hurt to know those skills.
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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

I don't know what lessons we can learn from this, but keep in mind Neil is still somewhat of a regular guy. Yeah he has some fame, but most people wouldn't recognize him on the streets.

Not to change the subject, but the whole Donald Trump Jr. and his ex-wife Vanessa thing earlier this year was what really opened my eyes. If a guy like Trump Jr. can get divorced, than it clearly shows that there's a heavy and serious problem in society.
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#32

Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

This is no real surprise.

Neil may be very good at gaming women into getting laid, but relationship/marriage game is a whole another ball game, with no shortage of cultural factors either helping it or interfering with it.

Plenty of players can get many woman, but can't keep one.

Quote: (12-16-2018 04:16 PM)Waqqle Wrote:  

If a man desires to marry a foreign woman, it is best that he move to her country (assuming that the laws and culture are not poisonous there) or at least that they both move together to a third country where the laws and culture are such that said country and society likely have a reasonably high chance of surviving into the next century barring some global cataclysm or act of God.

At the rate society is going, it won't be long before this becomes the only option for men wanting to start a family.
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#33

Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

That happened fast. I was just checking out his Instagram 3 months or so ago and there were many posts devoted to their relationship.

I like Neil because he's not afraid to admit his flaws. I'm sure this will be book material that will go in-depth about the demise.

Have you read the Truth? I got through about 1/4 of it on audiobook when I was stuck in the airport. IIRC he cheated on her quite a bit during the beginning and went to therapy for sex addiction. It was a very honest book even if a little on the new-agey side. Perhaps he fell back into that and that crumbled the relationship? Who knows?

Edit: Is the divorce still on? The article in Daily News stating they're getting divorced was in October. I just checked Neil's Instagram and there's family photo from 2 days ago. Are we sure the divorce is still on?
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#34

Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

It takes a while for a divorce to be finalized. It's too bad for their kid,
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#35

Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Feel bad for anyone who gets a divorce. If memory serves, he decided to go polyamorous which to me is often a sign that a divorce could be on the horizon.
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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Quote: (12-16-2018 04:32 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

Strauss may not be the stud that some imagine mhim to be but kudos to him for the personak transformation he underwent in The Game . The book is also entertaining and a good survey of game pre smart phone. He's a good writer.

I think he has a sexual addiction based on insecurities so I'm not surprised his marriage didn't work. Most in the West don't anymore

This. The Game was the book that red-pilled me, made the world suddenly make sense. I wish I had come across it in my teens, not for game, but for making sense of how the world really is.

Pickup doesn't seem to be as big of a business now, though Tyler and RSD are still going strong. I never really got into canned routines and everything, but The Game got me into studying style, body language and voice tonality.

If nothing else, it's still a great story.

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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

If you want to read something by Neil Strauss, then I recommend this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dirt
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#38

Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

His head resembles the NPC meme, a lot.

Maybe he can win her back with 'voice tonality' and other gobbledygook and sell another fantasy book this time aimed at cucked divorced men. She'll get a nice cut of the proceeds if she plays along.
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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

One thing about his books and his approach to things, he is thorough. For example, in the Game, he meets Tom Cruise and learned that Cruise studied and practiced how to walk so he would have a confident walk, important if you are as short as Cruise and Strauss. In Emergency, he invested several hundred thousand dollars to get a second passport from a Carribean country. You would want to follow up with deeper research, his books are not exactly how-tos, but they are thorough surveys over a broad landscape.
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#40

Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Thinking you can marry above a 7, who's much young, not have children, and not have a high chance of it blowing up is foolish.

Unless you are a handsome man, independently wealthy, and a respected member of a upper-end community, marrying an 8 who is much younger than you is a significant risk.

Us regular looking guys from middle class backgrounds who are moderately successful are best off wifing up a 6-7, who's only a couple years younger, and keeping her busy with babies until she's too old and worn to think about having options in a divorce...
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#41

Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Quote: (12-17-2018 07:26 AM)Hypno Wrote:  

One thing about his books and his approach to things, he is thorough. For example, in the Game, he meets Tom Cruise and learned that Cruise studied and practiced how to walk so he would have a confident walk, important if you are as short as Cruise and Strauss. In Emergency, he invested several hundred thousand dollars to get a second passport from a Carribean country. You would want to follow up with deeper research, his books are not exactly how-tos, but they are thorough surveys over a broad landscape.

Im sure Tom Cruise improved his notch count immeasurably once he got his walk game down.
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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Even though it ended in divorce I gotta give it to him for punching that much above his weight. Most of the guys I see around here who look like him don't do well.

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#43

Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Quote: (12-16-2018 05:14 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Lessons:

- Don't marry a clearly unstable woman.
- Don't marry if you don't want to have children.

I'm going to give the reverse advice for the West right now. If you just want to risk your own finances/freedom/sanity, go for it, but it's just too dangerous to risk your kids in that insane system.

I got custody of my kids after the break up, but it pushed me to my absolute physical and financial limits. If I had succumbed to pressure to marry the girl, I would have been forced to finance the lawyer she was using to fight me first. I would have lost horribly, and been destroyed financially. It's counterintuitive, because it's the first time in history marriage laws have been anti-family stability, but if you're going to be responsible parent today, it's a fact you have to live with.

You still have to deal with Family Court, but you have a much stronger hand when you're not living in a cardboard box to finance the top gun lawyer being used to destroy your family. Heck, a lot of women decide to actually put the kids first and reconcile when they find out thy're going to have to suffer too.
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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

I just found out a couple days ago that a buddy of mine got divorced and it sucks because he has a kid. What's amazing is apparently he got a GF fairly quickly after that breakup and he's taking it pretty well. We used to work at a pretty crappy job and if anything going through hell toughens you up. He's in his early 20s and got nothing in his name. Bless him, at least he isn't 40+ with a career and a net worth north of $500,000+.

I'm sure NS will be fine even after he's done getting taken to the cleaners. In this day and age if you think you won't get fucked in court you are naive. This is all just a sign that western civilization is on the decline. I personally want to get married and raise a stable family but it won't be at my expense.

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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Quote: (12-17-2018 01:24 AM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  

Quote: (12-16-2018 04:32 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

Strauss may not be the stud that some imagine mhim to be but kudos to him for the personak transformation he underwent in The Game . The book is also entertaining and a good survey of game pre smart phone. He's a good writer.

I think he has a sexual addiction based on insecurities so I'm not surprised his marriage didn't work. Most in the West don't anymore

This. The Game was the book that red-pilled me, made the world suddenly make sense. I wish I had come across it in my teens, not for game, but for making sense of how the world really is.

Pickup doesn't seem to be as big of a business now, though Tyler and RSD are still going strong. I never really got into canned routines and everything, but The Game got me into studying style, body language and voice tonality.

If nothing else, it's still a great story.

The Game is great red pill for any young man and in my opinion one of the key books for anyone that get into the game. One of the biggest lesson I took away from the story was the need for inner game/ handling your mental issues. You see the game becomes a band aid for deeper issues and failure to handle those issues leads to people running astray. From all the techniques and stories Neil gave in the book, the issues held by those cast of character still resonant more with me.
Its sad to see his divorce, but its another warning to get yourself in order before taken a wife.
Here to hoping both parents do not fuck up their kid.
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#46

Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

For those who haven't done so, please analyze carefully the risks of marriage. This is not an arrangement that lasts for most people in these times. When it falls apart, you will be up against the full power of the state which will destroy you. Neil is just 1 more in a long line of guys that have been/are being ruined financially (often for life). Marriage is simply way too risky in today's western culture. Open your eyes, look around, you know its true. Talking and rationalizing regarding marriage won't help. Do yourself a big favor. Please protect yourself by just saying "NO" to marriage.
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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Quote: (12-18-2018 12:46 AM)scrotus Wrote:  

For those who haven't done so, please analyze carefully the risks of marriage. This is not an arrangement that lasts for most people in these times. When it falls apart, you will be up against the full power of the state which will destroy you. Neil is just 1 more in a long line of guys that have been/are being ruined financially (often for life). Marriage is simply way too risky in today's western culture. Open your eyes, look around, you know its true. Talking and rationalizing regarding marriage won't help. Do yourself a big favor. Please protect yourself by just saying "NO" to marriage.

"Half the parachutes aren't opening, but people just keep jumping out of that plane".

And at least half the people that don't get divorced are living lives of quiet desperation in fear of what the divorce industrial complex would do to them.

People think marriage solves problem in relationships instead of adding whole new dimensions to them.
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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Quote: (12-16-2018 05:14 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Lessons:

- Don't marry a clearly unstable woman.
- Don't marry if you don't want to have children.

3. Don't have children if you're unstable
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Lessons We Can Learn from Neil Strauss’ Divorce

Quote: (12-18-2018 12:46 AM)scrotus Wrote:  

For those who haven't done so, please analyze carefully the risks of marriage. This is not an arrangement that lasts for most people in these times. When it falls apart, you will be up against the full power of the state which will destroy you. Neil is just 1 more in a long line of guys that have been/are being ruined financially (often for life). Marriage is simply way too risky in today's western culture. Open your eyes, look around, you know its true. Talking and rationalizing regarding marriage won't help. Do yourself a big favor. Please protect yourself by just saying "NO" to marriage.

This needs to be converted into a powerful meme.

"Say no to marriage, open your eyes," but in an image, in a meme format...
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