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Social circles that have a lot of good looking women discussion.

Quote: (10-01-2018 09:05 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

Sigh...... going to be the bigger man here and take the high road because of the value this thread has already brought to many as well as the potential value it can bring. I've learned a lot and thanked the posters that made the quality posts, will be reading this thread many times.

There are a few points addressed on this thread that I wanted to talk about. I am practically a newb to social circle game because I was a late bloomer with game and didn't really come into my own until I graduated college and moved out into the real world, in a slump now obviously.

About the volunteering part guys mentioned and then bringing up the whole blue-haired SJW stereotype, my issue has been the where to find the quality as well.

I know everyone says the whole "you attract who you are" (more on that later) statement but I too have had this issue. Its almost like all of the people a lot of us would want to associate with are all flocking to one activity and I kind of always feel out of the loop on a lot of that. I can genuinely relate with the concern members here have of where to look and someone made the sales analogy, a part of business is also the where instead of the how.

Maybe I am looking at it from a different perspective but from my experience, it seems like a lot of social crews that formed had that one bonding experience that brought them all together or at least some similarities in the crews they run with. Now I have had opportunities for that but the only successful one was with my roommates in NYC. Most of the other ones did not pan out because the people were too uptight and traditional types that looked down on things you're supposed to enjoy with youth (going out, having some drinks, partying, etc.).

A part of me cannot help but think that stuff like location and lifestyle you choose has an impact on it all. Had I lived in flyover country or suburbia after college, no way I could have had the experiences I had socially in my early 20s. I know its a complicated topic but I think common sense can work here too, not going to be partying with supermodels if your hobbies involve LARPing. Then again given how novice I am here, I could be looking at it from the wrong angle.

About being a quality guy yourself....

I used to feel that way too but just looking around, so many of the dudes I see that are a part of these crews are not exactly a Hemsworth brother in terms of looks. In fact I've seen more than a number of guys, even the younger ones, who had nothing special going for them in terms of looks yet were a part of these types of crowds. Now granted I spent a lot of my life in flyover country so for the Californians on this thread, it might be somewhat of a shock.

My belief about being the best version of yourself is to do it regardless of whether pussy and social life are concerned or not. I have mixed feelings about your looks and the kind of social life it can bring because countless times throughout my life I have seen guys who were uglier and not even that charismatic on the surface have luck with social circle game because of their circumstances.

I always try to find out what a man can control in his life but with social circle game, so much of it has seemed like dumb luck to me so far. Guy grew up in the right areas and had rich parents so he was friends with other rich kids in his adolescence, hence he is set. Some guy got lucky in his school days and ran with the right social crews so he is well off now.

Going out having fun has not worked that well.

It just seems like most of these people who come out in their crews are tight with their crews throughout, they don't want outsiders breaking in. To some degree it makes sense because if you're a guy, you don't want extra competition from other men. It seems like a case of if you already have the quality crew yourself, its the only way other crews will give you a shot. Then that comes back to what Dalaran said, the guys who need it the least are the only ones who seem to be able to get it.

Outside of a rare exception, its been my personal struggle even when I have done well in the game. This thread will be read by me many times due to how rich in information it is.

Outside of my time in NYC in my early 20s where I just lucked out having awesome roommates, social circle game has been a giant hurdle for me. I feel like even when I have done well in the game through dating apps and bar game, I've struggled socially for the most part. Always on the outside looking in during my adolescence and college days, never a part of the crews where the fun was going on and the hot girls were gathering near.

Definitely a lifelong journey for me to try and fix this because I have had issues with it for most of my life. Either I was with the boring home bodies that had a grudge against going out and having fun, the uptight morally self-righteous people (religious folks if you're in flyover country) or just deciding to isolate myself because that was better than dealing with the less fun people out there.

I understand your frustrations. When I was in high school, I was good looking and yes, there were many ugly guys who had success with social circle game. When you say something like as long as you're a male 6, and aren't afraid of pussy, and surround yourself with women and you will get laid like crazy, the cold approachers come out of the woodwork and argue against it. Especially the self improvement cold approachers who think that getting laid is akin to climbing Mt. Everest. Having said all that, if a male 6 had it easy, I had it double easy. So getting laid starts off as easy if you are "cool" enough, and becomes exponentially EASIER the better looking and high status you are.

Just because male 6's can easily get laid in social circles does not disprove the "you attract what you are" paradigm. It just means that guys who are 7+ have multipliers in terms of females opening doors for them. They have it THAT MUCH better. It's literally infinite validation. So as you can see...nature did not make any mistakes. They made women perfectly attracted to men.

The cold approachers have forgotten what life was like in high school and college. Females are actually the real seducers, and you are the "sport" as many in this thread have already pointed out. They are always boy crazy. Romance is their life.

Do you know who cold approach is for? Guys like me. Well, the person I used to be. Even though I was handsome, I was a pussy. I couldn't pull the trigger to save my life. Even if a girl threw herself at me, I would rationalize why she wasn't attractive. I don't know what or how I became that way. Maybe social conditioning.

So I ventured outside of my circles and learned how to escalate. At some point I forgot that abundance existed in social circles. I forgot how to network. I was all about the instant pull. It became more of an ego thing. But even at my best, I had to deal with sociopathic women, douchebags, fatty cockblocks, getting cockblocked by my own wings (probably over 100 times), etc. Whereas in a social circle, all I gotta do is use plausible deniability and we are having sex.

The argument is not whether or not it is easier in social circles. Anyone with half a brain and actual life experience as a relatively cool guy in social circles knows that it is easy as hell. The crux of the matter is access outside of college. In college, everything was handed to you on a silver platter.

In the real world, you need to develop networking skills not just for women, but for business, social access, and overall high quality friends.

This is why I am not against cold approaching. You need cold approaching skills to attain access. But you also need to be a cool guy who knows how to network and provide value. You can't just be a mindless seducer knocking everything over. Some of the biggest access I've ever attained happened when I randomly talked to people who seemed to be by themselves. Next thing you know, all of their friends show up (with a lot of hot girls) and the dude that I befriended is suddenly telling all of his friends how cool I am.

One time I sat in front of a guy and just started talking about game to him. We had a good chat and he agreed with a lot of what I said. We ended up going to a bar across the street and started approaching women. He hooked every woman in the bar. I was completely blown away. It was not something I expected. He ended up hooking a 2 set and I ended up getting laid just because I was the tag along wing man. A month later he hooked me up with his friend visiting from LA. She was like a 9. He's one of the most popular guys I have ever met with women and our friendship started when I approached him randomly and treated him like a proper friend.

Other examples of networking would be befriending fatties who have access to a lot of hot women. I also met an art gallery owner who routinely threw "art openings" where only women were invited.

Outside of college, you really will sink or swim depending on your networking abilities and what I call "Grown man status game." A guy who treats every adult like they have value and is able to befriend a variety of social networks. A guy who is able to weave in and out of social networks.

He's kind of like a hybrid guy. He doesn't strictly rely on social circles and is powerless when his crew isn't around like most non cold approachers. And he has the ability to network and not just see the world as "target, cockblock, obstacle, ug, beta orbiter, fatty." That's the guy that you DON'T want to give access to.

The life of a cold approacher could be very exciting as long as you are able to think beyond the limited paradigm of a 21 year old fuckboy trying to desperately lay everything in sight and discards anything that he doesn't see any value in. Some of the biggest gatekeepers I've met were low-key people seemingly hanging out by themselves.

One last story. I used to work a summer job in the poconos when I was 21 and started cold approaching the first time. There was this mexican guy named Alex. Where I was at was 99% white with 1 black guy, a few Asians, and a few hispanic. The first time I ran into Alex, he saw me pulling some cougar. The next time I met him, he kept trying to hang out with me. He seemed cool so I spend the whole night just hanging out with him and ignoring the girls at the bar. After closing time he invited me to a party with his friends. I assumed that most of his friends were just like him. I walked into a house with like 7-8 hot white chicks. It turned out that Alex's family owned the most popular restaurant in town. Every single girl in the house was trying to sleep with him that night. Somehow I got grandfathered in to the biggest social circle in that small town because I was cool with Alex when I had no idea who he was. He once showed me pictures of women he slept with and it was literally a collection of 50+ hot women bent over naked. It was like looking at porn. Surely enough, after I met Alex, I never cold approached again for the remainder of my summer job.

At some point I met another guy named Tim. Tim was the most intimidating guy I had ever met. And he was only about 5'7. But he looked like he was 225 lbs +. He had that Mike Tyson build. He claimed that he ran the town and knew all the girls and they all belonged to him. He actually threatened me because he heard that I slept with one of his "hoes." We actually started hanging out and became friends. One night it was me and him, and a few guys. At some point he just got up and said "Fuck that, everyone is getting laid tonight." He left and came back with 6-7 hot girls.

If you really want access, you have to picture yourself as the "main character" of a movie. This guy usually has an "it" factor about him that makes him universally likable. Based on my experience, I think that "it" factor is empathy. It certainly helped me weave in and out of top tier social groups. I became best friends with these guys. I wasn't just trying to use them for access or tried to compete against them like a pua or whatever.
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#52

Social circles that have a lot of good looking women discussion.

Damn good post Masta but I will disagree with one thing, until the day I die, about anything being handed on a silver platter in college but that is a matter for another thread. The gist of it being you had to be socially well connected through frats at most schools and most decent frats wanted someone from a decent background, family and all that.

Its interesting that you guys bring up access as you get older though because of the belief in here that exists saying you'll be miles ahead if you are fit and not in debt, but in that case its "lonely at the top" which is counterintuitive to the whole thread.

Supposedly, the younger you are the better off you are with access. Everyone is fit, free of responsibilities and generally wants to do things like having fun and meeting people.

Now as you get older, say past the age of 25 or so, people "settle down" with life. They get fat, boring, out of shape and turn into "adults".

This naturally means less access because if you're say the one lone 30 year old guy who is fit and well off financially, very few are in the same situation as you are. The few who would be in your situation, from what I have seen in most cases, are married and heading down the path of a family life.

So you're left hanging out with younger people because most people your age suck but even being in my mid 20s, I'd hate to be around too many college kids or folks in their early 20s because of how much of a misfit you will eventually feel like.

It is almost like thinking about this gives me a more hopeful mentality towards people.

I hope more and more people continue to see life as you get older as an opportunity to keep improving as opposed to seeing so many people just hit the wall after their college years or turn into utterly boring people that hate life.

Or maybe to an extent that is it.

In high school and college you needed rich parents and had to be from a well off background to enjoy those perks of a cool social life, for the most part. On the other hand in the adult world maybe not making major mistakes with your life like marriage and divorce before you are 30 could be enough to get you access because so much of it takes your own decisions as opposed to the circumstances you are born into.
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#53

Social circles that have a lot of good looking women discussion.

Quote: (10-01-2018 11:09 PM)masta Wrote:  

One time I sat in front of a guy and just started talking about game to him. We had a good chat and he agreed with a lot of what I said. We ended up going to a bar across the street and started approaching women. He hooked every woman in the bar. I was completely blown away. It was not something I expected. He ended up hooking a 2 set and I ended up getting laid just because I was the tag along wing man. A month later he hooked me up with his friend visiting from LA. She was like a 9. He's one of the most popular guys I have ever met with women and our friendship started when I approached him randomly and treated him like a proper friend.
...

Other examples of networking would be befriending fatties who have access to a lot of hot women. I also met an art gallery owner who routinely threw "art openings" where only women were invited.
....


Outside of college, you really will sink or swim depending on your networking abilities and what I call "Grown man status game." A guy who treats every adult like they have value and is able to befriend a variety of social networks. A guy who is able to weave in and out of social networks.

...

One last story. I used to work a summer job in the poconos when I was 21 and started cold approaching the first time. There was this mexican guy named Alex. Where I was at was 99% white with 1 black guy, a few Asians, and a few hispanic. The first time I ran into Alex, he saw me pulling some cougar. The next time I met him, he kept trying to hang out with me. He seemed cool so I spend the whole night just hanging out with him and ignoring the girls at the bar. After closing time he invited me to a party with his friends. I assumed that most of his friends were just like him. I walked into a house with like 7-8 hot white chicks. It turned out that Alex's family owned the most popular restaurant in town. Every single girl in the house was trying to sleep with him that night. Somehow I got grandfathered in to the biggest social circle in that small town because I was cool with Alex when I had no idea who he was. He once showed me pictures of women he slept with and it was literally a collection of 50+ hot women bent over naked. It was like looking at porn. Surely enough, after I met Alex, I never cold approached again for the remainder of my summer job.

At some point I met another guy named Tim. Tim was the most intimidating guy I had ever met. And he was only about 5'7. But he looked like he was 225 lbs +. He had that Mike Tyson build. He claimed that he ran the town and knew all the girls and they all belonged to him. He actually threatened me because he heard that I slept with one of his "hoes." We actually started hanging out and became friends. One night it was me and him, and a few guys. At some point he just got up and said "Fuck that, everyone is getting laid tonight." He left and came back with 6-7 hot girls.

If you really want access, you have to picture yourself as the "main character" of a movie. This guy usually has an "it" factor about him that makes him universally likable. Based on my experience, I think that "it" factor is empathy. It certainly helped me weave in and out of top tier social groups. I became best friends with these guys. I wasn't just trying to use them for access or tried to compete against them like a pua or whatever.

Nola/ NTP / Papa Hemingway (et al) is that you?

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_______________________________________
- Does She Have The "Happy Gene" ?
-Inversion Therapy
-Let's lead by example


"Leap, and the net will appear". John Burroughs

"The big question is whether you are going to be able to say a hearty yes to your adventure."
Joseph Campbell
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#54

Social circles that have a lot of good looking women discussion.

Quote: (10-03-2018 08:34 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Quote: (10-01-2018 11:09 PM)masta Wrote:  

One time I sat in front of a guy and just started talking about game to him. We had a good chat and he agreed with a lot of what I said. We ended up going to a bar across the street and started approaching women. He hooked every woman in the bar. I was completely blown away. It was not something I expected. He ended up hooking a 2 set and I ended up getting laid just because I was the tag along wing man. A month later he hooked me up with his friend visiting from LA. She was like a 9. He's one of the most popular guys I have ever met with women and our friendship started when I approached him randomly and treated him like a proper friend.
...

Other examples of networking would be befriending fatties who have access to a lot of hot women. I also met an art gallery owner who routinely threw "art openings" where only women were invited.
....


Outside of college, you really will sink or swim depending on your networking abilities and what I call "Grown man status game." A guy who treats every adult like they have value and is able to befriend a variety of social networks. A guy who is able to weave in and out of social networks.

...

One last story. I used to work a summer job in the poconos when I was 21 and started cold approaching the first time. There was this mexican guy named Alex. Where I was at was 99% white with 1 black guy, a few Asians, and a few hispanic. The first time I ran into Alex, he saw me pulling some cougar. The next time I met him, he kept trying to hang out with me. He seemed cool so I spend the whole night just hanging out with him and ignoring the girls at the bar. After closing time he invited me to a party with his friends. I assumed that most of his friends were just like him. I walked into a house with like 7-8 hot white chicks. It turned out that Alex's family owned the most popular restaurant in town. Every single girl in the house was trying to sleep with him that night. Somehow I got grandfathered in to the biggest social circle in that small town because I was cool with Alex when I had no idea who he was. He once showed me pictures of women he slept with and it was literally a collection of 50+ hot women bent over naked. It was like looking at porn. Surely enough, after I met Alex, I never cold approached again for the remainder of my summer job.

At some point I met another guy named Tim. Tim was the most intimidating guy I had ever met. And he was only about 5'7. But he looked like he was 225 lbs +. He had that Mike Tyson build. He claimed that he ran the town and knew all the girls and they all belonged to him. He actually threatened me because he heard that I slept with one of his "hoes." We actually started hanging out and became friends. One night it was me and him, and a few guys. At some point he just got up and said "Fuck that, everyone is getting laid tonight." He left and came back with 6-7 hot girls.

If you really want access, you have to picture yourself as the "main character" of a movie. This guy usually has an "it" factor about him that makes him universally likable. Based on my experience, I think that "it" factor is empathy. It certainly helped me weave in and out of top tier social groups. I became best friends with these guys. I wasn't just trying to use them for access or tried to compete against them like a pua or whatever.

Nola/ NTP / Papa Hemingway (et al) is that you?

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I sent you a message. Let's meet in person.
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#55

Social circles that have a lot of good looking women discussion.

Quote: (10-03-2018 03:55 PM)masta Wrote:  

Quote: (10-03-2018 08:34 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Quote: (10-01-2018 11:09 PM)masta Wrote:  

One time I sat in front of a guy and just started talking about game to him. We had a good chat and he agreed with a lot of what I said. We ended up going to a bar across the street and started approaching women. He hooked every woman in the bar. I was completely blown away. It was not something I expected. He ended up hooking a 2 set and I ended up getting laid just because I was the tag along wing man. A month later he hooked me up with his friend visiting from LA. She was like a 9. He's one of the most popular guys I have ever met with women and our friendship started when I approached him randomly and treated him like a proper friend.
...

Other examples of networking would be befriending fatties who have access to a lot of hot women. I also met an art gallery owner who routinely threw "art openings" where only women were invited.
....


Outside of college, you really will sink or swim depending on your networking abilities and what I call "Grown man status game." A guy who treats every adult like they have value and is able to befriend a variety of social networks. A guy who is able to weave in and out of social networks.

...

One last story. I used to work a summer job in the poconos when I was 21 and started cold approaching the first time. There was this mexican guy named Alex. Where I was at was 99% white with 1 black guy, a few Asians, and a few hispanic. The first time I ran into Alex, he saw me pulling some cougar. The next time I met him, he kept trying to hang out with me. He seemed cool so I spend the whole night just hanging out with him and ignoring the girls at the bar. After closing time he invited me to a party with his friends. I assumed that most of his friends were just like him. I walked into a house with like 7-8 hot white chicks. It turned out that Alex's family owned the most popular restaurant in town. Every single girl in the house was trying to sleep with him that night. Somehow I got grandfathered in to the biggest social circle in that small town because I was cool with Alex when I had no idea who he was. He once showed me pictures of women he slept with and it was literally a collection of 50+ hot women bent over naked. It was like looking at porn. Surely enough, after I met Alex, I never cold approached again for the remainder of my summer job.

At some point I met another guy named Tim. Tim was the most intimidating guy I had ever met. And he was only about 5'7. But he looked like he was 225 lbs +. He had that Mike Tyson build. He claimed that he ran the town and knew all the girls and they all belonged to him. He actually threatened me because he heard that I slept with one of his "hoes." We actually started hanging out and became friends. One night it was me and him, and a few guys. At some point he just got up and said "Fuck that, everyone is getting laid tonight." He left and came back with 6-7 hot girls.

If you really want access, you have to picture yourself as the "main character" of a movie. This guy usually has an "it" factor about him that makes him universally likable. Based on my experience, I think that "it" factor is empathy. It certainly helped me weave in and out of top tier social groups. I became best friends with these guys. I wasn't just trying to use them for access or tried to compete against them like a pua or whatever.

Nola/ NTP / Papa Hemingway (et al) is that you?

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I sent you a message. Let's meet in person.

I tried to reply but you put me on your "ignore list" before I could for some reason.

So I'll post your message and my reply here

Quote:masta Wrote:

I don't know who you are but notice you keep following me around and trolling me without ever actually talking about my points. If you would like, I would meet you in real life and we can have a battle and post it on roosh. I dont like to talk much id rather just do the walk. I am in philly and available any time.

Im not addressing any of your points because I dont believe any of your ridiculous stories. You may or may not be NOLA but whoever you are youre full of shit. If youre not him then youre just another in a long line of pathological liars that have some bizarre need to draw anonymous validation from gullible chodes on the internet.

The problem for someone like you is that you will find a higher intellectual threshold on RVF and less tolerance for your fictional shenanigans than youre probably used to on other platforms. So it wont be long until your dysfunction, whatever it is, leaves your "masta" incarnation on the ethereal scrapheap with a line through it.

As far as your invitation to meet you in Philly I'll pass. Ive been there before, a few times actually, and while I appreciate its history and significance to our USA it's a blue collar declining shit hole. No thanks.

But if you ever find yourself visiting the beautiful beaches of SoCal or in Prague let me know and Ill be happy to have a dance off

Cheers

PT

_______________________________________
- Does She Have The "Happy Gene" ?
-Inversion Therapy
-Let's lead by example


"Leap, and the net will appear". John Burroughs

"The big question is whether you are going to be able to say a hearty yes to your adventure."
Joseph Campbell
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Social circles that have a lot of good looking women discussion.

Quote: (10-03-2018 05:20 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Quote: (10-03-2018 03:55 PM)masta Wrote:  

Quote: (10-03-2018 08:34 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Quote: (10-01-2018 11:09 PM)masta Wrote:  

One time I sat in front of a guy and just started talking about game to him. We had a good chat and he agreed with a lot of what I said. We ended up going to a bar across the street and started approaching women. He hooked every woman in the bar. I was completely blown away. It was not something I expected. He ended up hooking a 2 set and I ended up getting laid just because I was the tag along wing man. A month later he hooked me up with his friend visiting from LA. She was like a 9. He's one of the most popular guys I have ever met with women and our friendship started when I approached him randomly and treated him like a proper friend.
...

Other examples of networking would be befriending fatties who have access to a lot of hot women. I also met an art gallery owner who routinely threw "art openings" where only women were invited.
....


Outside of college, you really will sink or swim depending on your networking abilities and what I call "Grown man status game." A guy who treats every adult like they have value and is able to befriend a variety of social networks. A guy who is able to weave in and out of social networks.

...

One last story. I used to work a summer job in the poconos when I was 21 and started cold approaching the first time. There was this mexican guy named Alex. Where I was at was 99% white with 1 black guy, a few Asians, and a few hispanic. The first time I ran into Alex, he saw me pulling some cougar. The next time I met him, he kept trying to hang out with me. He seemed cool so I spend the whole night just hanging out with him and ignoring the girls at the bar. After closing time he invited me to a party with his friends. I assumed that most of his friends were just like him. I walked into a house with like 7-8 hot white chicks. It turned out that Alex's family owned the most popular restaurant in town. Every single girl in the house was trying to sleep with him that night. Somehow I got grandfathered in to the biggest social circle in that small town because I was cool with Alex when I had no idea who he was. He once showed me pictures of women he slept with and it was literally a collection of 50+ hot women bent over naked. It was like looking at porn. Surely enough, after I met Alex, I never cold approached again for the remainder of my summer job.

At some point I met another guy named Tim. Tim was the most intimidating guy I had ever met. And he was only about 5'7. But he looked like he was 225 lbs +. He had that Mike Tyson build. He claimed that he ran the town and knew all the girls and they all belonged to him. He actually threatened me because he heard that I slept with one of his "hoes." We actually started hanging out and became friends. One night it was me and him, and a few guys. At some point he just got up and said "Fuck that, everyone is getting laid tonight." He left and came back with 6-7 hot girls.

If you really want access, you have to picture yourself as the "main character" of a movie. This guy usually has an "it" factor about him that makes him universally likable. Based on my experience, I think that "it" factor is empathy. It certainly helped me weave in and out of top tier social groups. I became best friends with these guys. I wasn't just trying to use them for access or tried to compete against them like a pua or whatever.

Nola/ NTP / Papa Hemingway (et al) is that you?

[Image: bsflag.gif]

I sent you a message. Let's meet in person.

I tried to reply but you put me on your "ignore list" before I could for some reason.

So I'll post your message and my reply here

Quote:masta Wrote:

I don't know who you are but notice you keep following me around and trolling me without ever actually talking about my points. If you would like, I would meet you in real life and we can have a battle and post it on roosh. I dont like to talk much id rather just do the walk. I am in philly and available any time.

Im not addressing any of your points because I dont believe any of your ridiculous stories. You may or may not be NOLA but whoever you are youre full of shit. If youre not him then youre just another in a long line of pathological liars that have some bizarre need to draw anonymous validation from gullible chodes on the internet.

The problem for someone like you is that you will find a higher intellectual threshold on RVF and less tolerance for your fictional shenanigans than youre probably used to on other platforms. So it wont be long until your dysfunction, whatever it is, leaves your "masta" incarnation on the ethereal scrapheap with a line through it.

As far as your invitation to meet you in Philly I'll pass. Ive been there before, a few times actually, and while I appreciate its history and significance to our USA it's a blue collar declining shit hole. No thanks.

But if you ever find yourself visiting the beautiful beaches of SoCal or in Prague let me know and Ill be happy to have a dance off

Cheers

PT

I'm not going to get into a flame battle with you simply because I have never met you before nor do I care. There is real life and there are internet Forums. I have never understood the mindset of someone who has such a strong emotional reaction to a random poster.

You are on my ignore list because you kept accusing me of being someone else and acting like a passive aggressive ex-girlfriend. I thought you were a weirdo troll. I didn't know anything about reputation systems or stars, I just saw you as a troll. If you approached people you don't know like this in real life, you would probably get punched in the face. But we are all tough guys on the internet, right?

The guys I am planning to meet are hankmoody and kbell and other reputable philly guys. I even texted hankmoody when I was out hitting on girls but he didnt reply back. I'm not hiding behind a monitor, lol.

Anyway I am not going to qualify myself to you, I gave you a chance to meet me since you are so emotionally charged about me for some reason (even though I have no idea who you are nor do I have any interest in getting into a dick measuring contest.

If you are not going to meet me then I am just going to leave you on my ignore list.

For a guy with your stature on this forum, I am surprised you decided to derail this thread and made it about me and you....acutally you made it about ME. Lol. Noone on this thread gives a damn about me except for you. That's pretty hilarious.

I honestly don't even understand half of your psychoanalysis about me. It reminds me of girls who used to have a crush on me back in high school telling me "You think you are so cool, but deep down inside you are a jerk" and I'm like "Huh? Have we met?"

Is this a shit test??? Lol.

Since you want to psycho-analyze, based on your post, I can see you are exposing your frame as reacting to me. But to me, I couldn't distinguish you from another random poster. That means you see me as more dominant than you, or at least a threat. If I was really a loser like you are insinuating, I wouldn't have gotten this reaction out of you. And you wouldn't have been this obsessed about me. Didn't you read my post about frame game?

Your words say one thing, but your actions are highly reactive and passive aggressive. It's obvious that I've sparked some insecurity in you.

But honestly, I feel like I wasted 15 minutes of my life replying to you. If you wanna talk, then show up. If not, stop derailing threads trying to get me to react to you.
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You have a penchant for deflecting the issue...another similar characteristic to the previous other outed liars. So I'll really try to pin this down for you.

Quote: (10-03-2018 05:56 PM)masta Wrote:  

At some point I met another guy named Tim. Tim was the most intimidating guy I had ever met. And he was only about 5'7. But he looked like he was 225 lbs +. He had that Mike Tyson build. He claimed that he ran the town and knew all the girls and they all belonged to him. He actually threatened me because he heard that I slept with one of his "hoes." We actually started hanging out and became friends. One night it was me and him, and a few guys. At some point he just got up and said "Fuck that, everyone is getting laid tonight." He left and came back with 6-7 hot girls.

^ This did not happen. This is fiction writing. Poor fiction writing at that. That you would try to pass this ridiculousness off as truth is an insult to the intelligence of RVF community.

I wasnt sure what you were referring to about me "following" you until you mentioned Hank Moody. Then I found it


Quote: (10-03-2018 05:56 PM)masta Wrote:  

The guys I am planning to meet are hankmoody and kbell and other reputable philly guys. I even texted hankmoody when I was out hitting on girls but he didnt reply back. I'm not hiding behind a monitor, lol.

Or

Quote: (09-22-2018 06:17 AM)masta Wrote:  

hmmmm I see. One of my best friends ever is hankmoody from this forum. he has like 147 reputation...whatever that means. ill have him record me. and ill show my dominance in front of women. hopefully when I show myself on cam, all of you guys who have trolled me will show yourselves too.

one of the things that hankmoody taught me was to be confident...yet humble. if you going to talk smack, i wanna see what you got.

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So which is it? Are you going to meet Hank Moody or is he one of your best friends?

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I stand by my analysis

You may have something of value to say and share. Too bad you dont believe in yourself enough to do it without embellishment or fabrication

You have a credibility problem

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I have some questions and I'm a longtime lurker. I saw this thread and had to write something.

How would you go on about changing your behavior to raise your social status and find at least good social circle with hot girls?

How do keep women interested while being a lonewolf if I should not be able to make some cool friends ?


Now my personal story maybe it can act as a real life example because it's what the OP wrote about. It's just another viewpoint.


I really like this topic and I think about this often because it’s one of my biggest annoyances when dealing with women

I’m 23 years old and I have the experience that it is the perfect inbetween age. 16-18 or 28-35 are ages where some are more likely to embrace new life stages and meet new people. I joined hobby groups and everybodyseems to be older. I don’t know why but they are either older or way younger. Especially men don't seem to venture out of their circles to try something new. I came across girls my age sometimes. Girls are just naturally more open to put themselves in new social situations.

It’s the age where you’re the closest with your social circle or new friends you made in school or in college. I can be alone for 2 weeks straight just work/school and Salsa. Some Tinder dates. At work there are only people who way older 35+.

I do go to the gym and I believe that I look above average because I have muscles and a nice face, I also dress in style. I lack the social component though. I’m not a social butterfly -obviously more introverted. I don’t have a big family. I’m have been at 3 weddings.

I see lucky people using their families and relatives to be more social and I wish I could do this but I can’t. I wasn’t born into a big family with many people my age or have brothers and sisters who also have friends or many uncles, aunts.

I have never been an outcast in any way it's just that I had this never on my mind. I was just comfortable in my position with my girlfriend and a few friends while growing up (0-17). Without moving I would have been fine I guess.

The day I lost my best friends and girlfriend because moving changed everything. I saw the world and interactions through other lens and felt like it was suddenly harder to go out with people because everybody seemed to have their “close friend group” which I didn’t suddenly. I could always chat and joke with others, but I never had a “close friend” like I had before. I was just an acquaintance for most guys got invited sometimes but I was just not in on most jokes and it wasn't that fun. When I invited somebody I shared interests with they often didn't have time or took time.

I am an approachable friendly guy and that’s the reason I can make friends with people who want to make friends.

I tend to make friends/acquaintances with guys who have no high social status or women in their circle. The are cool to hang out but have not many friends (for living in the same city their whole life) and are often 5 years older. It's nothing bad and they don't care but I'm going in another direction and I don't want to be only part of these circles with only single man in it. These guys are pleasant personality wise I actually like them. They don’t help me in any way though to do fun things and have an awesome social life because they have different interest in that regard. They don’t self-improve, and they only go out “sometimes” because they are single and want to find a girlfriend. They don't have much time only on the weekends and of course sometimes they do something with people their age even though they act like outgoing students.

I did quite much with 2 such guys my age. They didn't like drinking and parties but we did cool trips and had fun meeting people and doing some cool stuff also because I was leading much. For 3 years we had fun but they both found girlfriends “now”. We met the girls all at the same time while having fun and they played the ultimate nice guy game from then on and got them after two years. The girls are 4-5s. I have no hate but it sucks for me and I have to see how both are so easy to emotionally manipulate it's quite sad. I could tell stories about this, but I must stop.
Since 3 Months their vanished basically haha.

I spend many days in front of the computer after work or with girls I date. I don't have anything better to do. Hobbies like learning spanish, gym and Salsa are keeping me occupied also. I don’t have enough time and money to do many things I want to do, at the same time where I could meet people. Paying rent, driving around also kills money and time.

My plan is to join some sports groups at university which are only possible for non-students if they're not full with students already. That seems to be the best thing to do if I want to meet more people my age.

When I was travelling for 6 weeks and stayed at hostels it was perfect. I made friends we did go out and I got girls left and right. The groups we formed at the hostel. There where some quite hot girls there who seemed really innocent and would never do online dating.I would love to have something like this again. I would need only 2 cool people I really click with and I could see myself forming a circle around that.
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I also feel like social circle game is something you are, for the most part, born into. It was the cool kids at an early age who hit their social primes in their adolescence or college years who have those friendships and high status friends to be around. On top of that they had the environment and family money to help them out as rich parents are likely to push their kids into being social.

Even my two awesome roommates I lived with in NYC were getting by with college status in the sense that the friends they made in college moved to NYC with them so they partied together, I just met friends through them.

What does get me in the social circle journey is how easy it is to get it wrong, how many people you will meet that do not help you with your game journey compared to the small amount that will.

I talk about my roommates from my early 20s in NYC but outside of that, my attempts at social circles have failed hard. It is just so easy to get it wrong and meet the wrong kinds of people. Even when you meet the few quality people, they are there to do the activity and then get going. I have done co-ed and intramural sports only to find that when the season ends, people are back to their regular social crews.

The job I work is a corporate role with awesome benefits but there, most coworkers are competition. Business relationships are really only good for business and not much else, seeing a coworker or someone who is in your space notice you gaming hot girls can turn into a disaster with the way HR runs in a lot of corporations and how it can ruin your reputation.

Typical hobbies and groups that people mention, especially if they have older guys in them, are loaded with the downtrodden of society. You start to get why the guys who are lonely are lonely and realize how easy it is to run into the typical weirdo or goober, making the wrong kinds of friends.

But the only piece of advice I can give is that NYC and major cities are the go tos no question.

Flyover country is hell for making new friends and it is discouraging how quickly people become tight knit.

Maybe with people delaying marriage for longer and such people moving to a major city, there could still be that window of opportunity for us late bloomer types!

Oh Distant Light you give me hope!!!
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Quote: (10-04-2018 07:40 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

I also feel like social circle game is something you are, for the most part, born into. It was the cool kids at an early age who hit their social primes in their adolescence or college years who have those friendships and high status friends to be around. On top of that they had the environment and family money to help them out as rich parents are likely to push their kids into being social.

Even my two awesome roommates I lived with in NYC were getting by with college status in the sense that the friends they made in college moved to NYC with them so they partied together, I just met friends through them.

What does get me in the social circle journey is how easy it is to get it wrong, how many people you will meet that do not help you with your game journey compared to the small amount that will.

I talk about my roommates from my early 20s in NYC but outside of that, my attempts at social circles have failed hard. It is just so easy to get it wrong and meet the wrong kinds of people. Even when you meet the few quality people, they are there to do the activity and then get going. I have done co-ed and intramural sports only to find that when the season ends, people are back to their regular social crews.

The job I work is a corporate role with awesome benefits but there, most coworkers are competition. Business relationships are really only good for business and not much else, seeing a coworker or someone who is in your space notice you gaming hot girls can turn into a disaster with the way HR runs in a lot of corporations and how it can ruin your reputation.

Typical hobbies and groups that people mention, especially if they have older guys in them, are loaded with the downtrodden of society. You start to get why the guys who are lonely are lonely and realize how easy it is to run into the typical weirdo or goober, making the wrong kinds of friends.

But the only piece of advice I can give is that NYC and major cities are the go tos no question.

Flyover country is hell for making new friends and it is discouraging how quickly people become tight knit.

Maybe with people delaying marriage for longer and such people moving to a major city, there could still be that window of opportunity for us late bloomer types!

Oh Distant Light you give me hope!!!

Man O Man you sure love running around in circles! This post's intellectually sound... but literally means nothing! Read & Re-read kaotic and Noir responses until you're Blue in the face! Take Action & Write responses with a Goal in mind
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Inb4 ban.

But seriously, PT is great at sniffing out this persistent troll.

This guy's fucking mentally ill. Like hardcore.

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^Lol, what the fuck.

Shit like this makes me addicted to this site. This is easily the most entertaining place on the internet.
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This is an actual book. Pappaya paid me to do his copywriting for him. It's like the manifesto for all the mods on this forum. Explains why bans are handed out like candy on Halloween night, and how the most estrogen filled posters are promoted to mod status.
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I sure as hell miss Tuthmosis.
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Damn PT really sniffed that out early! Pretty subtle too.

Also noticing this HankMoody theme with latest trolls -- it's not HM, but it's "eaglesfan" and "SbigdOgsbigtatsNbigOtruckS" which had me laughing tremendously.

Back to the topic: there is really NO OTHER SOLUTION than being social, getting "out there", talking to people, not being scared to "number close a guy and get him out for a day2 hang" hahah, and the invites will start flowing.

Familiarity over time, trust, fun experiences, and that's how you break into a social circle.

The easiest circles to break into are ones that are a little "lower than you"... it's a little harder to get in above your level. But the more you do it, the higher up you'll go because of the natural value you have / learned from your peers / absorbed yourself. It's similar to "you are who you attract".

What helps is when there are complimentary skills... for example, a great musician who is fun but broke, hanging with top tier business guys who have money but are boring. They can help each other absorb from both sides.

The essence, Beer, is that for ever new post you make about this same topic, you bury yourself deeper and farther away from getting what you want.
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The Hydra effect is strong huh...
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Quote:papayatapper Wrote:

I tried to reply but you put me on your "ignore list" before I could for some reason.

So I'll post your message and my reply here

Quote:masta Wrote:

I don't know who you are but notice you keep following me around and trolling me without ever actually talking about my points. If you would like, I would meet you in real life and we can have a battle and post it on roosh. I dont like to talk much id rather just do the walk. I am in philly and available any time.


Lol Looks like the thread got compleely derailed. Now I don't have a horse in this race, but just by looking at the posts, I clearly see PappayaTapper trying to call out the poster Masta on his posts, which prompted Masta to send PappayaTapper a private message, which got BROADCASTED on the forums and put on blast. I think this is called "doxing another member," the very same reason why Masta got banned.

Imagine if Masta said something like "Hey man, I live in philly. I work for such and such company. Here's my number. Call me anytime, and let's settle this. Regardless, a member's private message should NEVER be broadcasted. It could ruin his career knowing the social climate we are in right now.

So I guess as a mod, if you don't like a member, you can derail a thread, put them on blast, post their private messages to you, yet when they do the same (probably because they don't know the rules as MUCH as you should), then they get the ban hammer..

Hmmmmm....Looks like abuse of power to me. Does @Roosh pay attention to his own forum or is he still on sabbathical?

So guys, I guess if the mods don't like you, they can come after you incessantly and ban you for the very same offences they committed against you.

Looks like your privacy isn't safe after all.

Of course, the PappayaTapper will come in and say "I couldn't send him a message because he blocked me." Well, I wonder why he blocked you? Could it be you kept trolling him? Even so, that's no excuse to dox another member. You should know better as a guy who's been here forever.

Expect his 4-5 friends to come in and defend him and brush this aside as a troll post. That's usually how it is around here. The mods do whatever they want, and file everything they don't agree with as "troll." They have been given full autonomy, and that includes the right to provoke you, gang stalk you, and ban you for the very same things they get away with.

What is @Roosh going to do? Brush this aside and let his members know the mods can broadcast their privacy without punishment? Or will he ban a member who's been here forever and has developed a God complex?
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Entering to a social circle with a good number of hot girls is hard. You will need status, money, looks or being great in something that attracts them.

My experience is that Some months ago, i joined to a gym.They also offered fit dancing classes 7 hours per day(I love to dance a lot). Short story is that i participated to these dancing classes and one week later, i was teaching some hours and i got quiet popular at my gym.

The gym has 3 professional male dancers who have a social circle with hot dancing students and other hot dancers. At the beginning, two of them were cold and distant with me, i think they see me as a competition in dancing and getting the hot girls. Just of one the guys was cool and became a good friend fast.

Recently, the cool dancer invited me to an important event and i gave a good presentation. At the end, a hot milf who is a popular dancer asked me for a pic. She also introduced me 3 hot girls(2 of them professional dancers).

I would say that now i am part of the social circle of hot dancers in my city.Even if i was better looking, have decent game and great dancing abilities than many guys in the group, this social circle were so closed and took me 6 months to be there.

Now, i am enjoying the benefits of this SC and it also helps me to increase my status with other groups, bang hotter local and foreign girls. Finally, my advice to OP is that instead of posting questions how to, i would recommend you to take action and do something that you like and can attract a hot crowd(local musician, a semi profesional athlete, a great dancer or something that involves hot girls).

Saludos, Drix
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Quote: (10-05-2018 12:50 PM)hitmanwalking Wrote:  

Lol Looks like the thread got compleely derailed. Now I don't have a horse in this race, but just by looking at the posts, I clearly see PappayaTapper trying to call out the poster Masta on his posts, which prompted Masta to send PappayaTapper a private message, which got BROADCASTED on the forums and put on blast. I think this is called "doxing another member," the very same reason why Masta got banned.

Imagine if Masta said something like "Hey man, I live in philly. I work for such and such company. Here's my number. Call me anytime, and let's settle this. Regardless, a member's private message should NEVER be broadcasted. It could ruin his career knowing the social climate we are in right now.

So I guess as a mod, if you don't like a member, you can derail a thread, put them on blast, post their private messages to you, yet when they do the same (probably because they don't know the rules as MUCH as you should), then they get the ban hammer.

Quote: (10-05-2018 12:50 AM)eaglesfan Wrote:  

This is an actual book. Pappaya paid me to do his copywriting for him. It's like the manifesto for all the mods on this forum. Explains why bans are handed out like candy on Halloween night, and how the most estrogen filled posters are promoted to mod status.

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Quote: (10-05-2018 05:03 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Quote: (10-05-2018 12:50 PM)hitmanwalking Wrote:  

Lol Looks like the thread got compleely derailed. Now I don't have a horse in this race, but just by looking at the posts, I clearly see PappayaTapper trying to call out the poster Masta on his posts, which prompted Masta to send PappayaTapper a private message, which got BROADCASTED on the forums and put on blast. I think this is called "doxing another member," the very same reason why Masta got banned.

Imagine if Masta said something like "Hey man, I live in philly. I work for such and such company. Here's my number. Call me anytime, and let's settle this. Regardless, a member's private message should NEVER be broadcasted. It could ruin his career knowing the social climate we are in right now.

So I guess as a mod, if you don't like a member, you can derail a thread, put them on blast, post their private messages to you, yet when they do the same (probably because they don't know the rules as MUCH as you should), then they get the ban hammer.

Quote: (10-05-2018 12:50 AM)eaglesfan Wrote:  

This is an actual book. Pappaya paid me to do his copywriting for him. It's like the manifesto for all the mods on this forum. Explains why bans are handed out like candy on Halloween night, and how the most estrogen filled posters are promoted to mod status.

^[Image: laugh4.gif]

Edit. True story. Nick Foles was my neighbor for a little over a year back in 2015 (when he did his stint with the Rams under Jeff Fischer). Used to see him walking the dog very frequently and say "hi". He and his wife Tori pretty much kept to themselves but were friendly and seemed like down to earth kids. It was kind of cool to see him win the Super Bowl MVP.

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