[Papa Hemingway]

I had some success today scoring a date with a waitress scheduled for tomorrow. She is really into salsa dancing but I don't know how to dance so this be interesting. The only men I know that enjoy dancing are gay, beta or black. I don't think this place is that difficult. But I guess I will not know until tomorrow. It doesn't seem much different than Podgorica from my initial observations as far as talking to girls.

[LINUX]

(06-27-2018 12:36 PM)lookslikeit Wrote:  

You are putting all of this work just to get girlfriend? What exactly is magical about the girls there? If you put that work as extra in your current western city can't you land a high calibre girl?

I still don't get the point. You go to SEA and you get laid easier. You go to party locations and you increase your chances. You go to expensive cities to build a career. I'm not sure I get the point of Belgrade.

You said the city is "cool". What does that exactly mean?

Women in Belgrade are beautiful and smart. You are rarely going to find that in SEA. Their bodies are not great, they have no asses, but they have faces like angels.

I actually admire guys who to Belgrade in search of a good woman and wish them luck. I hope Dragan stays there until he meets someone, taking a one way to Manila at this point would be like throwing in the towel to fight Glass Joe instead.

Also Dragan make sure you are hanging out with people who make you a better person. That's important in game and in life. If others have a negative outlook on everything, it will rub off on you.

[PainPositive]

(06-27-2018 12:24 PM)lookslikeit Wrote:  

So let me get this straight: The city is shit. It's a malfunctioning third-world. The woman are pretty but 1. They are difficult to lay and 2. City logistics and nightlife are bad thus making your lay expensive in terms of effort and time.

So it is not a good option (as dragan suggests) for long term living and working? And if the nightlife is bad/limited it is not a good option for short term either.

What exactly is the attraction?

Yes correct on all counts except the nightlife can be good. If you're broke as fuck living on 1000 USD a month then a $5 cocktail might seem expensive to you. To most people it's not. Nobody should come here expecting to have a few nights of fun and lays easily. You can fuck 5/6s (like most visitors do) but that's it.

I see a lot of clams from dudes who visit but when they send me pics or I see them on the street with a girl they are fucking hideous by Belgrade standards and plain/average by any standard. Even the "high level" PUAs like Krauser are fucking a lot of very average girls.

Think about that. One of the best daygame guys in the world, who had fucked a ton and put in years and years of relentless approaching is only pulling average but virgins and newbies somehow think this is a good place to visit/live for girls. Silly.

Belgrade is only great because the women. (if/when you figure out how to bang them) They are extremely attractive and are a joy to spend time with. They don't act trashy or insane and know when to shut their mouths. They don't want your money and make it painful when you try and pay for something small like movie tickets, cabs, or coffee. They're loyal and traditional. They don't slut around and finding girls with less than 5 notches is commonplace. Finding "wife material" here isn't too hard. I've found a few. In my opinion I'd rather date Serb girls than any other nationality.

I have a girl here who I will probably marry when she's done with school. She was early 20's when we met, had never had a boyfriend, beautiful, super cool, traditional, kind, submissive etc.

That being said I'm leaving. This place is a shithole. I don't like it. I'm burnt out but I can't stand the lack of modernity, things to do besides drink, and small-minded village people mindsets.

People here who're 25-30 and still living at home with mommy and daddy incessantly have really strong opinions about how life works and what is the right way to do things. This annoys me.

Some people on this thread have told me it's easy to make money here. They are retards. Doing business here sucks, margins are razor thin, people don't spend much money here. This is not a good place to make money.

One great thing about Belgrade it will never be overrun with PUAs or tourists. They can't make it here since they can't fuck anything above a 6 (and rarely get any pussy at all), the food is all the same shit, it's ugly, girls make you wait, etc.

You can have a great setup here. My first two years here were some of the best of my life. Making good friends and learning Serbian helps but I wouldn't advise anyone to live here. There are better places to live in the world as a single guy. Maybe I'll raise a family here someday but besides that fuck this place.

[Dulceácido]

^^HOLY!

Science recognized.

[Papa Hemingway]

(06-27-2018 01:06 PM)PainPositive Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 12:24 PM)lookslikeit Wrote:  

So let me get this straight: The city is shit. It's a malfunctioning third-world. The woman are pretty but 1. They are difficult to lay and 2. City logistics and nightlife are bad thus making your lay expensive in terms of effort and time.

So it is not a good option (as dragan suggests) for long term living and working? And if the nightlife is bad/limited it is not a good option for short term either.

What exactly is the attraction?

Yes correct on all counts except the nightlife can be good. If you're broke as fuck living on 1000 USD a month then a $5 cocktail might seem expensive to you. To most people it's not. Nobody should come here expecting to have a few nights of fun and lays easily. You can fuck 5/6s (like most visitors do) but that's it.

I see a lot of clams from dudes who visit but when they send me pics or I see them on the street with a girl they are fucking hideous by Belgrade standards and plain/average by any standard. Even the "high level" PUAs like Krauser are fucking a lot of very average girls.

Think about that. One of the best daygame guys in the world, who had fucked a ton and put in years and years of relentless approaching is only pulling average but virgins and newbies somehow think this is a good place to visit/live for girls. Silly.

Belgrade is only great because the women. (if/when you figure out how to bang them) They are extremely attractive and are a joy to spend time with. They don't act trashy or insane and know when to shut their mouths. They don't want your money and make it painful when you try and pay for something small like movie tickets, cabs, or coffee. They're loyal and traditional. They don't slut around and finding girls with less than 5 notches is commonplace. Finding "wife material" here isn't too hard. I've found a few. In my opinion I'd rather date Serb girls than any other nationality.

I have a girl here who I will probably marry when she's done with school. She was early 20's when we met, had never had a boyfriend, beautiful, super cool, traditional, kind, submissive etc.

That being said I'm leaving. This place is a shithole. I don't like it. I'm burnt out but I can't stand the lack of modernity, things to do besides drink, and small-minded village people mindsets.

People here who're 25-30 and still living at home with mommy and daddy incessantly have really strong opinions about how life works and what is the right way to do things. This annoys me.

Some people on this thread have told me it's easy to make money here. They are retards. Doing business here sucks, margins are razor thin, people don't spend much money here. This is not a good place to make money.

One great thing about Belgrade it will never be overrun with PUAs or tourists. They can't make it here since they can't fuck anything above a 6 (and rarely get any pussy at all), the food is all the same shit, it's ugly, girls make you wait, etc.

You can have a great setup here. My first two years here were some of the best of my life. Making good friends and learning Serbian helps but I wouldn't advise anyone to live here. There are better places to live in the world as a single guy. Maybe I'll raise a family here someday but besides that fuck this place.

What are your thoughts on using Belgrade as a venue for labor arbitrage? As opposed to places like Ukraine or Poland.? With the high English penetration and the lack of EU oversight seems like it could be a good place to hire a bunch of data entry professionals.

Also how intertwined are the politicians with corporate legal services.?

[PapayaTapper]

(06-27-2018 10:49 AM)Papa Hemingway Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 09:52 AM)Malone Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 06:13 AM)Papa Hemingway Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 02:22 AM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

It's kind of funny and sad that this is the most active thread in the travel section.

What's wrong with Belgrade? It's one of the more interesting cities. I'm a little surprised there is not more talk about it. I just did a search of the forum and there is not many interesting threads with information one could get not from a travel bureau or simply being a tourist for a few days.

It seems like a great city.

Tell me, Papa Hemingway - how much do you know about boats?

I like this city so far. It does not seem like a place for boating activities. I haven't looked into this.

That so?....how long have you been there? Couple/three weeks maybe?

[PainPositive]

Be advised: Some of the banned guys from this thread have "other accounts" and are super butt-hurt about getting banned. They will be back trolling. Keep that in mind when you waste your time engaging and debating with low-repped posters.

Also, I've finally had a chance to read through this thread. Here's something to think about when you're wondering why people don't take your advice seriously. http://www.imagiver.com/authority-vs-credibility/

Quote:

Hypocrites can have authority, but they’ll never have credibility.

Authority figures say, “Do as I say”. People with credibility say, “Do as I do.”

Ask yourself: "Have I built any credibility on this subject or am I just making myself an authority because of my geographical location?"

Trying to do and doing is not the same thing and doesn't deserve the same respect.

[lookslikeit]

@PainPositive

edit: referring to your longer reply.

That seems highly emotional. You say the place suck and the economy is bad. You realize that by raising a family there you are subjecting your kids to a lower IQ culture, not so good schools and limited opportunities for their growth.

My understanding is that the place is a shithole from what you say. Apart from the fact that the girls are "sweet" (whatever that means).

The last few posts are a massive contradiction to what have been said about Belgrade during this thread. There was massive praise making it seem like the lost paradise.

Things just flipped 180degrees.

[Papa Hemingway]

(06-27-2018 01:24 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 10:49 AM)Papa Hemingway Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 09:52 AM)Malone Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 06:13 AM)Papa Hemingway Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 02:22 AM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

It's kind of funny and sad that this is the most active thread in the travel section.

What's wrong with Belgrade? It's one of the more interesting cities. I'm a little surprised there is not more talk about it. I just did a search of the forum and there is not many interesting threads with information one could get not from a travel bureau or simply being a tourist for a few days.

It seems like a great city.

Tell me, Papa Hemingway - how much do you know about boats?

I like this city so far. It does not seem like a place for boating activities. I haven't looked into this.

That so?....how long have you been there? Couple/three weeks maybe?

A few days, yes, so far I like it.

[lookslikeit]

(06-27-2018 01:04 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 12:36 PM)lookslikeit Wrote:  

You are putting all of this work just to get girlfriend? What exactly is magical about the girls there? If you put that work as extra in your current western city can't you land a high calibre girl?

I still don't get the point. You go to SEA and you get laid easier. You go to party locations and you increase your chances. You go to expensive cities to build a career. I'm not sure I get the point of Belgrade.

You said the city is "cool". What does that exactly mean?

Women in Belgrade are beautiful and smart. You are rarely going to find that in SEA. Their bodies are not great, they have no asses, but they have faces like angels.

I actually admire guys who to Belgrade in search of a good woman and wish them luck. I hope Dragan stays there until he meets someone, taking a one way to Manila at this point would be like throwing in the towel to fight Glass Joe instead.

Also Dragan make sure you are hanging out with people who make you a better person. That's important in game and in life. If others have a negative outlook on everything, it will rub off on you.

That's not my point. It's easier to lay in SEA and the quality is lower. That is correct. But you have to put things into perspective of the effort you put into the lay. If you need 100 approach, 10 dates and 25 hours of girl gaming to score a 7-8 in Belgrade, does that effort score you a 9-10 in Thailand? In that case, your effort/quality ratio is equal and thus Belgrade only differentiation from Thailand is different kind of woman and not "hotter" woman.

My understanding is that Serbian woman look like Easter European. I didn't go to easter europe but I heard nice things about Budapest and Prague. Plus they are much bigger cities/countries. You get more choices.

[Mercenary]

(06-27-2018 01:24 PM)PainPositive Wrote:  

Be advised: Some of the banned guys from this thread have "other accounts" and are super butt-hurt about getting banned. They will be back trolling. Keep that in mind when you waste your time engaging and debating with low-repped posters.

Most of us have been aware of their many sock puppet accounts for some time now...but thanks for confirming this.



Live shot of banned members "super butt-hurt"

[LINUX]

(06-27-2018 01:33 PM)lookslikeit Wrote:  

That's not my point. It's easier to lay in SEA and the quality is lower. That is correct. But you have to put things into perspective of the effort you put into the lay. If you need 100 approach, 10 dates and 25 hours of girl gaming to score a 7-8 in Belgrade, does that effort score you a 9-10 in Thailand? In that case, your effort/quality ratio is equal and thus Belgrade only differentiation from Thailand is different kind of woman and not "hotter" woman.

My understanding is that Serbian woman look like Easter European. I didn't go to easter europe but I heard nice things about Budapest and Prague. Plus they are much bigger cities/countries. You get more choices.

Chasing notches is what people do at the beginning stages of game. Guys who live and roll though Serbia are obviously past that stage or they wouldn't be there. Also Hungarian women and Serbian women look completely different. I saw very few attractive woman in Budapest. In Serbia, all you have to do is walk outside and wait 5 minutes. I don't care if you have to make 1000 approaches to meet a good woman. It's worth it. Nothing in life worth having comes easy.

[Henny]

[/quote]Their bodies are not great, they have no asses, but they have faces like angels.

Quote:

Disagree, other way round in fact. Linux have you been to Serbia, according to your profile not?

Yes correct on all counts except the nightlife can be good. If you're broke as fuck living on 1000 USD a month then a $5 cocktail might seem expensive to you. To most people it's not. Nobody should come here expecting to have a few nights of fun and lays easily. You can fuck 5/6s (like most visitors do) but that's it.

Quote:

Dude $1000 in Belgrade is not "broke as fuck" you can live a comfortable life on that.

Even the "high level" PUAs like Krauser are fucking a lot of very average girls.

Quote:

Krauser fucks average girls because game doesn't really work all that much, he is more concentrated on coaching others

Belgrade is only great because the women.

Quote:

Not true

My first two years here were some of the best of my life. [quote]

How could things change so suddenly for you?


OH FFS I NEED SOME MULTIQUOTE PRACTICE

Not now though watching football

[Papa Hemingway]

Pussy is pussy and it does not matter what country you're in. As a medical doctor will tell you he/she will diagnose you within the first 90 seconds of walking into the examination room. Same goes for people and their judgement of people when the first meet them. Take a second to think about all your close friends. Most of mine with the exception of a few I liked within the first few minutes of talking to them. I did not know anything about them but just enjoyed the way the conversation began.

This over analysis by culture, country, looks is a little bit ridiculous. Also another mans shithole can be another mans paradise, to that point it's purely about perspective.

[Dragan]

Pain Positive, I find it odd you calling out people for having sockpuppets (I readily admitted to having none in our meeting), because you readily admitted you had a second account after your first was banned.

You also said don't give a fuck about what people on the forum think, but why are you responding to low-rep members?

[Henny]

(06-27-2018 02:23 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Pain Positive, I find it odd you calling out people for having sockpuppets (I readily admitted to having none in our meeting), because you readily admitted you had a second account after your first was banned.

You also said don't give a fuck about what people on the forum think, but why are you responding to low-rep members?

[LINUX]

(06-27-2018 02:01 PM)Henny Wrote:  

Their bodies are not great, they have no asses, but they have faces like angels.

Disagree, other way round in fact. Linux have you been to Serbia, according to your profile not?

If I have never visited Serbia, then I wouldn't be here giving my opinions.

Maybe Serbian asses are big to you in comparison to where you are from or living. But surely you aren't living in Colombia or Brazil if you disagree with me.

[Shimmy]

(06-27-2018 01:25 PM)lookslikeit Wrote:  

The last few posts are a massive contradiction to what have been said about Belgrade during this thread. There was massive praise making it seem like the lost paradise.

PainPositive landed a really solid girl in Belgrade and I have seen pictures of her, the other posts in here are guys who have done nothing but tried with no success. Who should we listen to?

[Henny]

(06-27-2018 02:46 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 02:01 PM)Henny Wrote:  

Their bodies are not great, they have no asses, but they have faces like angels.

Disagree, other way round in fact. Linux have you been to Serbia, according to your profile not?

If I have never visited Serbia, then I wouldn't be here giving my opinions.

Maybe Serbian asses are big to you in comparison to where you are from or living. But surely you aren't living in Colombia or Brazil if you disagree with me.

Serbian asses and bodies are some of top in Europe, it's their faces that can be a let down, too masculine.

Colombian and Brazilian asses too big for most EE enthusiasts

[LINUX]

(06-27-2018 02:23 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Pain Positive, I find it odd you calling out people for having sockpuppets (I readily admitted to having none in our meeting), because you readily admitted you had a second account after your first was banned.

You also said don't give a fuck about what people on the forum think, but why are you responding to low-rep members?

What is said in private at a bar between the two of you should not be regurgitated on this forum.

This is why the travel section is dying, because some guys can not be trusted and the veterans will stick to the ones that can.

[Going strong]

(06-27-2018 02:41 PM)Henny Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 02:23 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Pain Positive, I find it odd you calling out people for having sockpuppets (I readily admitted to having none in our meeting), because you readily admitted you had a second account after your first was banned.

You also said don't give a fuck about what people on the forum think, but why are you responding to low-rep members?

The plot thickens! First, it seemed that NTP was NOLA who was also Dragan, but then it was revealed by PainPositive that Dragan is for real and distinct from NOLA (and NTP?), but suddenly Dragan rejects the backing and validation from PainPositive and accuses him of being part of the mysterious (nautical?) re-born hydra, and meanwhile Papa Hemingway kinda stole my avatar (and is probably NOLA?) and pops up in Belgrade.

This thread looks more and more like:

[HD668B]

(06-27-2018 01:04 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

Women in Belgrade are beautiful and smart. You are rarely going to find that in SEA. Their bodies are not great, they have no asses, but they have faces like angels.

Have you actually been to Serbia, or any other Balkan state? Because pretty much the opposite of what you said is true. The women are the most curvy of East-Europe, and the face is basically the opposite. Like another poster wrote, very masculine face, almost chiseled, and the nose... jesus can be scary sometimes. Let's not even mention the voice after smoking 2 packs of cigarette daily.

[LINUX]

(06-27-2018 03:11 PM)HD668B Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 01:04 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

Women in Belgrade are beautiful and smart. You are rarely going to find that in SEA. Their bodies are not great, they have no asses, but they have faces like angels.

Have you actually been to Serbia, or any other Balkan state? Because pretty much the opposite of what you said is true. The women are the most curvy of East-Europe, and the face is basically the opposite. Like another poster wrote, very masculine face, almost chiseled, and the nose... jesus can be scary sometimes. Let's not even mention the voice after smoking 2 packs of cigarette daily.

Yes. I have. I explained this 5 post up.

And I'm not comparing Serbia to other EE countries. I've been to 57 countries. I'm comparing to asses of the whole world. I stand by my statement, Serbian women have beautiful faces to me. No asses.

[lookslikeit]

(06-27-2018 03:11 PM)HD668B Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 01:04 PM)LINUX Wrote:  

Women in Belgrade are beautiful and smart. You are rarely going to find that in SEA. Their bodies are not great, they have no asses, but they have faces like angels.

Have you actually been to Serbia, or any other Balkan state? Because pretty much the opposite of what you said is true. The women are the most curvy of East-Europe, and the face is basically the opposite. Like another poster wrote, very masculine face, almost chiseled, and the nose... jesus can be scary sometimes. Let's not even mention the voice after smoking 2 packs of cigarette daily.

cool. now even the girls are not pretty?

[lookslikeit]

(06-27-2018 02:47 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

(06-27-2018 01:25 PM)lookslikeit Wrote:  

The last few posts are a massive contradiction to what have been said about Belgrade during this thread. There was massive praise making it seem like the lost paradise.

PainPositive landed a really solid girl in Belgrade and I have seen pictures of her, the other posts in here are guys who have done nothing but tried with no success. Who should we listen to?

I don't know the both of you but that's why i asked for different opinion. There is a perspective angle here and i felt the thread is an echo-chamber. so i asked for a different point of view.

i'm not moving to serbia anytime soon but if it really was the paradise it was being talked about i'll certainly hop on a plane tomorrow to see what's going on.