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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 08:52 AM
Not sad about her leaving cuz I realized I turned beta cuck while with her and I’m happy to be back in the game.
But she won’t return the ring and I’m filing a small claims suit to get it back.
1. It’s completely classless to not return an engagement ring if you break it off right?
2. How do I win this thing? Never been to court before. RVF legal minds where you at?
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 08:59 AM
Keep in mind I have no legal background nor formation.
To me, when you Give an object to someone, you can't have it back, even if that person left you or insulted you.
Take it as a life lesson, don't make the same mistake again.
Welcome back to the dating scene, have fun friend.
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 09:02 AM
@Latan actually a conditional gift must be returned if the conditions upon which the gift was given no longer hold true.
Engagement rings must be returned legally in almost every state.
I did basic research before I filed I know the law is on my side I just want tactics to win in court
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 09:13 AM
^ Dude just forget about it. This court shit will drain your mental and emotional energy to recoup 2-3k?. Focus on your new $ and new girls.
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 09:34 AM
I am not sure about USA, but here in Latvia if you give a gift of Jewelry while in relationship and then that relationship breaks, the law states that such gifts are to be given back. One of my friends was in this situation and he got the gold earrings he gave to a woman back. In his case trough the woman gave them back, just due to knowing the law. I am not sure it would pay off to sue her for keeping them if she would not cooperate.
It's a wise thing to always keep receipts of all expensive things you buy including jewelry.
It's a dumb and beta thing to give gifts of jewelry trough, unless you are very rich. Only give gifts you can afford to not care about later.
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 09:40 AM
My ex-gf, the first one whom I was well and truly in love with, owes me 500$ for a plane ticket and has my favorite blazer that's worth close to that. Being young and strapped for cash at the time I tried getting the stuff back for a few weeks and it drained me. So, I just said "momentary beta bux" learned my lesson, and moved on (as hard as it is to do).
You don't get there till you get there
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 09:42 AM
The old custom, usually recognized by law, is that the ring is collateral against the slut-shame damages of being rejected after publicly announcing your engagement and having to find another man as damaged goods.
Some states have changed things around, and I don't know what state you're in, but make sure you have a clear chain of evidence that "here is how I am proving how much this ring is worth, here is how I am proving that this is why I gave it to her, and here is how I am proving that she is keeping it". Bring the relevant statute or a printout of the controlling case in case the judge isn't familiar with it, although they should be. You want a receipt, some evidence of the engagement afterwards (emails, SMS, even an announcement in the family newsletter, whatever), and her refusal to return it with an implicit admission that she has it.
She'll probably try to claim it was an unconditional gift so showing the intent to marry may be important. Small claims usually cannot do anything but award money, and won't be able to give you the ring back.
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 09:56 AM
If he goes to small claims court, he won't need a lawyer. A paralegal can walk him through the filing process and help him with the forms. That should cost OP about $150-$200. If the ring is worth $2-3k, it might be worth it.
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 10:01 AM
You can consider it payment for the lessons you learned, assuming you never get them back.
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 10:02 AM
Consider a lawful payment for you not having to deal with her ever again.
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 10:12 AM
Best to claim she stole it from you. It will be an easy win and she will get a criminal conviction!
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 10:23 AM
Is there a family member that you can reach out to, even in a formal way to whom you can show the relevant statutes in your state and reiterate your intention to see the claim through?
I reckon most women would think that they could keep it; having a third party explain the consequences and potential costs of dragging things out may resolve the problem quickly and cheaply.
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 10:23 AM
Collateral damage. Charge it to the game playa.
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 10:28 AM
I hear where you guys are coming from in terms of dropping it. I thought about it and really for me This isn’t stressful it’s kinda fun to see how things play out. If I really felt held back by this I wouldn’t do it.
I really like confrontation and winning (I’m in business) she knows that about me. I know that about myself. So tbh dropping this and letting it go would be the beta move in my mind since I wouldn’t be true to who I am.
I’m open to being talked out of it for logical reasons but it isn’t really affecting my ability to move on at all
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 10:30 AM
@saweep family ignoring calls and texts
Ghosted by the whole clan it would seem
I’ve talked to my girlfriends about this all of them said they would return it. Shows no class to keep it really
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Fiancé left me won’t return engagement ring
07-06-2018, 10:33 AM
@saweep that’s the outcome I am hoping for. Easy peeezy