[HankMoody]

(05-14-2018 11:43 PM)MKE-Ed Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 02:10 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  

I actually wanted a Jeep Wrangler but couldn't justify the pricetag. Anything I found that was decent cost at minimum $10k. They're awesome cars, though. My Dodge Ram gets the job done. Women love it. Plus, if you put a construction hat in your dash, you can pretty much park outrageously and no one says anything about it. I park on sidewalks, no parking zones, you name it. I've only gotten towed once (that sucked). I'm a big fan of Wranglers. They hold their value, which in my opinion, is big. You can sell a Wrangler with 177 miles. Big detriment? I hate driving stick, mostly because I'm on my phone a lot. My GF drives a stick. I like to talk on the phone while I'm driving.

Women also love the Benz but it has the same issues with the Wrangler -- it's easy to break into and steal shit. During the winter it's got a hard top, but that isn't fun to drive. The engine is loud as fuck, so your stereo has to be on point. If you're driving anything with a droptop, you need a good stereo but it's also easy to steal. If you live in a city like me, no bueno.

I've said this before in the thread, but my favorite car I've ever owned was the 2000 Land Rover Discovery II. I raised the tires and put a snorkel on. I sealed the engine. The car's estimated value was $2500. People thought it was a $50k car after I put a good stereo system in it. For some reason, it never got fucked with. No one ever broke into it.

In any case, I hope my point came across. You can get a lot of girls with cheap, fun cars. Get a giant truck, muscle car, or a convertible. They can be bought on the cheap. I don't see the point in buying really expensive cars, but your milage may vary.

One thing that has always impressed me about Jeep Wranglers is that they are a true off road SUV. I was visiting friends down in Puerto Rico eight years ago and we went to a very remote part of the island that had dirt roads up high on a mountain and the Wrangler handled this terrain very easily. It was actually a lot of fun to drive it off road. The Wrangler didn't skip a beat. Most SUVs today are nothing more than glorified station wagons and suburban boulevard cruisers. But like you say, Hank, the Wranglers are getting very expensive, new and used ones.

I looked at a 2018 model at the Chicago auto show and it was very nice. Jeep updated the interior and tuned the ride a little to make it more street friendly. I have a friend that works at a local Jeep dealer and he tells me that the new Wranglers are selling very well. Chicks do like them big time.

Funny story...

I went camping last year, and we took my Disco II off-roading. Through all kinds of crazy puddles and shit. Really back-woods stuff. We were beating up my truck and everyone was having fun. People are riding on the back of it, we're smashing puddles, and driving over some crazy terrain.

One of the guys I was with wanted to be a tough guy. He was driving a Subaru, and his girlfriend was there. Kid is 10 years younger than me.

I was like "Dude, trust me on this, don't try it. I'm not trying to be Mr. Cool. Although Subarus might look like SUVs, they're not. You can't take them through big rain ditches or off-roading. The snorkel is why I can drive through all this crazy stuff. You'll kill your engine."

Low and behold, he takes the fucking thing back in the woods. Runs it into a rain puddle.

Engine gives out in like two seconds, and his $25k car is dead. Right on the spot.

Expensive lesson.

Not every SUV is actually an SUV.

I've been trying to pickup a decent Wrangler, but they're fucking expensive. And I don't want to drive a stick. Been keeping my eye out, but anything decent seems to be over $15k.

[Dulceácido]

I'd do unspeakable things for a Super Bee...

[ShotgunUppercuts]

^. Damn skippy.

[Dulceácido]

MOPAR or no car...

[JekyllAndHyde]

The Mercedes CLS is a nice looking car but these 4-door coupe things have this annoying tunnel in the middle which could make it more difficult to bang in the backseat.


Yet the E-Class which it is based on doesn't have it.

coupe action @ 16:14, 17:56 & 19:40

4some @ 21:30

I guess you don't need a large car.

[IveBeenFramed]

I'm looking to take advantage of the 25 year import law the US has and bring something unique across the pond.

Unfortunately, I can't quite afford the Sierra RS Cosworth or Escort RS Cosworth I want but have a good alternative with the Scorpio Cosworth.

I can already hear the "Why is the steering wheel on the wrong side?" questions already.

[SlickyBoy]

(05-14-2018 08:09 PM)Saweeep Wrote:  

Not sure what the situation is across the World, but those old Landies (Kona is being very naughty calling them gay) are almost impossible to prevent being stolen here in the UK. It's an epidemic.

Dunno why you'd want one unless you live on a farm though.


On topic, I've got a German SUV and a Classic Bentley; I wouldn't even bring the old gal out of the garage for a woman but I suspect it's not sporty enough to be anything other than a status symbol to them really.

Young bitches love German 4x4s...as Jay-Z said...hotel on wheels.

Those have become prime yuppie hobby toys and are priced accordingly. You can't even touch an early 90s Defender 90 for less than 22k. The 110s are similarly priced. Both versions haven't been imported to America for years because the company didn't want to bother with a US spec version that would have totally changed the vehicle.

It may be blasphemy, but they've always had reliability problems though. Even so, the US Rangers use them (they call it an RSOV) because the Humvees won't fit in the back of a CH47. They weren't made for serious long haul journeys so longer term reliability problems (drive train, usually) didn't surface during quick airfield assaults. Kept in the field too long, and I've seen them sit for a while, dead, before a recovery team could get to them.

Ask any South African hunting guide why he drives a Toyota Land Cruiser instead of a Land Rover and he'll laugh out loud, then tell you if you ever go with an outfitter using a Land Rover, he doesn't know what he's doing. The guys using land rovers literally have to pack extra axles just in case one breaks. Toyota? Hell, even the Taliban uses them in bumfuck Afghanistan without much trouble - and they sure as hell aren't pulling any maintenance on them.

[Saweeep]

Land Rover reliability problems are not a new thing and seemingly they just can't ever get it right.

It's a shame really because although the latest ones are over styled bling-mobiles, they are nice cars.

[kaotic]

(05-14-2018 06:32 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

Are you sure? All the rider ed classes I've seen use Rebels - that's a bicycle, for chrissakes. But they make the Shadow up to 800cc and at one point had 1100cc bikes that looked just like a Harley - and I know that's gotta sting!

Up to 800cc to 1100cc is laughable bro, might as well get an R1 and ride that instead of a charlie. If it isn't 96cu's or up it ain't worth riding as a Harley style bike.

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If part of the point is to impress women with the "born to be wild" approach, do you really think your average *young* woman is going to know or care about the difference?

I don't care about impressing women, they can ride with me or not, I was explanation the culture behind it and why women gravitate towards it.

Women know what a Harley is, they're confused when they see a Honda or Yamaha that isn't a street bike.

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The Honda's actually got more power anyway - that's why Harley promotions never shut up about the torque because frankly the horsepower sucks for such big engines (the air cooled variety - not the V-rod which average people still don't associate with "Harley").

Why do you think there's such a huge aftermarket for parts for Harleys, from big bore kits to chain conversions, to exhaust, etc ?

Noone rides a stock harley, if they do, they just bought it, or can't afford parts for it yet.

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But I get your point - SoCal is at least for now a different animal when it comes to bikes. How much that changes with the age & racial demographics remains to be seen.

Agreed SoCal is, agreed harley does have a problem.

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Softails were not selling well ever since the late 2000s, but cancelling the Dyna was definitely a major move - I hope they thought that one through.

They didn't, however, prices on the 17's basically froze and didn't depreciate.The aftermarket parts exploded after the news, and alot of the original Dyna riders HATE the new softail move.

[Ski pro]

(05-15-2018 09:31 AM)IveBeenFramed Wrote:  

I'm looking to take advantage of the 25 year import law the US has and bring something unique across the pond.

Unfortunately, I can't quite afford the Sierra RS Cosworth or Escort RS Cosworth I want but have a good alternative with the Scorpio Cosworth.

I can already hear the "Why is the steering wheel on the wrong side?" questions already.

A mate of mine had a modded one of those once. Still the fastest accelerating thing I’ve ever been in ( including a Tesla on ludicrous mode)

[DJ-Matt]

I've always wanted a suzuki samurai but ever since consumer reports torpedoed them by labeling them unsafe, they quit selling them in the US. The newest one you can get is a 1992 model I believe, with a very problematic fuel-injection system. Most of the ones I've seen are shit since they're now almost 30 years old, might be easier to import a foreign one.

[ShotgunUppercuts]

If a ever grab a coupe frim over seas itll be a renault clio v6.

[YoungBlade]

Can any Russlanders speak to the quality of the UAZ?

[IveBeenFramed]

(05-15-2018 03:24 PM)Ski pro Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 09:31 AM)IveBeenFramed Wrote:  

I'm looking to take advantage of the 25 year import law the US has and bring something unique across the pond.

Unfortunately, I can't quite afford the Sierra RS Cosworth or Escort RS Cosworth I want but have a good alternative with the Scorpio Cosworth.

I can already hear the "Why is the steering wheel on the wrong side?" questions.

A mate of mine had a modded one of those once. Still the fastest accelerating thing I’ve ever been in ( including a Tesla on ludicrous mode)

I've seen what tuners can do with those 2.9 Cologne engines. Cosworth simply breathed on it a bit and gave it nearly 200bhp naturally aspirated.

Turns out I just missed out on one. 65k miles and I could've had it bought, shipped, and converted to US legal spec for $10k all in. Good thing is they seem to pop up every 9 months or so.

http://www.barons-auctions.com/auctions_...d=2194&p=1

I still want that Sierra RS Cosworth 4x4 though....

[Leonard D Neubache]

(05-15-2018 03:34 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  

I've always wanted a suzuki samurai but ever since consumer reports torpedoed them by labeling them unsafe, they quit selling them in the US. The newest one you can get is a 1992 model I believe, with a very problematic fuel-injection system. Most of the ones I've seen are shit since they're now almost 30 years old, might be easier to import a foreign one.

Sold as the Sierra in other places, the more recent iteration being the Jimny if I'm not mistaken.

Don't do it. You will feel every bump so badly that your teeth will be chattering for an hour after you step out of the damn thing. You will search high and low for aftermarket modifications to solve the problem. You will fail. There are no products that can cure the stiffness of suspension required to stop a light, tall vehicle rolling when travelling at speed through a medium-to-tight bend.

Having racked up a few thousand ks in a Jimny, ie the much newer version, I can tell you that they're still functionally dangerous. If you hit corrugations while rounding a bend then the car will "rattle" a fair yard or two to the left or right of its intended placement. These cars were popular in places where the roads were utterly shit in the first place and nobody who valued their life was going anywhere faster than 60 k's an hour, so unless you're looking for a cheap car to run and you happen to be living in the DRC then avoid these things like the plague.

[IveBeenFramed]

(05-15-2018 05:22 PM)ShotgunUppercuts Wrote:  

If a ever grab a coupe frim over seas itll be a renault clio v6.

The Clio is on my list too. The Williams variant. We Americans missed out on a lot of JDM and Euro DM cars.

Again, coming back to cars and game, you have women go "what is that car?" with some of these.

[MOVSM]

(05-15-2018 05:33 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Can any Russlanders speak to the quality of the UAZ?

Only the most brainwashed Homo Soveticus would desire that piece of junk. Not even Batka would want it.


Of all soviet crap, only Ural motorcycles are worth getting, only because it is a copied BMW design which was never updated. You get brand-new retro style, at discount (-ish) prices.

[ShotgunUppercuts]

I prefer the more modern one they had with thr motor right behind the seat.

Looks like a fun bastard to beat around on a quiet street and tight roads.

[ShotgunUppercuts]

Or this right here



Mercedes w126 6.0 amg

[IveBeenFramed]

Ah a mid-engine version similar to the 205 GTi they took rallying in the 80s.

Those original AMG Benzes too. Before Mercedes-Benz bought them. Straight classics.

[ShotgunUppercuts]

Those w126s are timeless. I swear im gonna own one before i leave this earth

[IveBeenFramed]

Didn't AMG do something with those 300 CE coupes too?

Edit: They did!

[ShotgunUppercuts]

Look up “The Hammer”

And 500e

[Laner]

(05-15-2018 03:34 PM)DJ-Matt Wrote:  

I've always wanted a suzuki samurai but ever since consumer reports torpedoed them by labeling them unsafe, they quit selling them in the US. The newest one you can get is a 1992 model I believe, with a very problematic fuel-injection system. Most of the ones I've seen are shit since they're now almost 30 years old, might be easier to import a foreign one.

Those were popular here because of the small wheel base and two guys could essentially lift it back on the track if need be. A willow could winch it out of a mud pit.

Some of my favorite 4x4 missions were in one of these orange beauties. 4 low up a snow capped Coast Mountain on an overgrown logging road. 4 beers in, alders snapping at the roll bars and a 60 degree drop on the edge of a 2m cat track.

Yes, these things were certainly dangerous. But much of that came from the hosers behind the wheel.

[Leonard D Neubache]

For offroading they are admittedly excellent, particularly because their slim wheelbase allows them to ride the higher middle parts of tracks instead of having to slop through the trenches dug by previous drivers.