[Mercenary]

True story.

I actually managed to actually find a 23 year old (almost 24) virgin asian girl. Quite shy, thin and nice looking. Between a 6 and 7.5 on the HB scale depending on how you rate asian girls. She had lived with her conservative over protective parents her whole life and still does today.

I'd never been with a virgin girl before and a lot of asian girls I was with before were usually quite tight anyway so I knew it would not be easy. I also know that girls can (supposedly) break their hymens by doing excessive gymnastics, splits, horseback riding and so forth. Or so it is claimed...never knew if these things are actually true. The only thing I can see actually breaking a hymen is using a dildo.

However I still prepared myself by educating myself on the different types of hymens girls and can have and the difficulty of breaking them. Here's an example of what I'm talking about:





So that actually got me curious what type of hymen she would have.

When it came time to do the deed, I opened her legs, spread her pussy lips with my fingers and could see no hymen at all.

To be sure she was the tightest girl I've ever had to deal with. Putting my dick in was out of the question. She had supposedly never even fingered herself. I had to slowly open her up over the course of a few days by using my fingers. First one, then 2, all the way up to 5. Every time I added another finger my fingers felt like they were being crushed. After about 4 or 5 days of fingering I (finally) managed to fuck her.

Long story short, during the days of fingering and then fucking she had a lot of pain, but bravely endured through it...but there never was any blood.


For a while after that I doubted her virginity claims, but she really gave no other sign of knowing anything about sex. She didn't watch porn, (its banned in her country anyway) has no idea what cum looked like and showed no knowledge of anything sexual in how she acted in bed. So, I was confused...maybe she really was telling the truth.

A few weeks later she remembered that a year before she had gone for a routine cervical cancer screening test (aka smear test) that all girls worldwide are strongly encouraged to do to avoid getting pussy cancer. In that test all girls get a medical instrument called a speculum shoved up their vagina.

She then remebered on that day she bled and felt a lot of pain.
Mystery solved.







Yet, I'm not happy about this.
Are these tests really necesary at such a young age ?
Why is the medical community breaking virgin girls hymens unnecessarily ?
Has your virgin wife lost her hymen and pre-cucked you with a speculum ?

Sounds ridiculous I know...but this is a serious issue.
Would appreciate what other guys think especially those looking for a wife.











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[YoungBlade]

Bad news bro.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(11-04-2017 09:36 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Bad news bro.

[Cane Toad]

Yeah, and my girlfriend got that STD from a toilet seat

[Repo]

In all seriousness though, a quick Google search says that this can happen, especially if she isn't relaxed for the test.

[Mercenary]

(11-04-2017 09:45 PM)Repo Wrote:  

In all seriousness though, a quick Google search says that this can happen, especially if she isn't relaxed for the test.

How can you be relaxed when you are a virgin girl and a nurse shoves a speculum up your unbroken pussy ?
Even in the rare case a virgin girl is 100% relaxed as can be in such a uncomfortable and embarrassing situation, there is no way to get that thing in without breaking the hymen.





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[Geomann180]

So can you tell us about the different hymens? How far are you in your research?

With images like those, I was expecting some sort of hymen datasheet.

G

[Mercenary]

(11-04-2017 09:58 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

So can you tell us about the different hymens? How far are you in your research?

With images like those, I was expecting some sort of hymen datasheet.

G

If all girls have to do these tests nowadays you won't get anymore unbroken hymens anywhere, no matter how conservative & protective her family is.




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[Roosh]

Have you seen the receipt on her doctor visit?

[redbeard]

I don't even know where to start.

I've never been with a virgin before.

I couldn't tell you the first thing about a hymen.

If you find one, lemme know.

[ball dont lie]

Ive had the same thing happen with some Chinese virgins. Early 20s, very sexually inexperienced to the point where I almost didn't have sex with them because it was such a turnoff. Shy to the point of near unbelievable.

These girls needed the same treatment. Over several unsuccessful tries and using some pillows to get her angled so that her vagina was easiest to enter. No blood but still pain. Incredibly tight.

I honestly think its an East Asian thing where these girls are so unsexual even until their early to mid 20s. Just weird shit that people don't bump into in places (the west) where girls are getting gangbanged at 16 from guys whose names she doesn't even know.

[Mercenary]

(11-04-2017 10:04 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Have you seen the receipt on her doctor visit?

I will ask her for it.
I'm quite sure she will find it for me as well without even questioning why or making a fuss.

There are zero red flags in her behaviour and attitude.
She has no social media profile and even offered me her passwords to her email accounts and phone if I felt jealous.
In this one case I have a gut feeling this is actually what happened.

These invasive cervical cancer tests have become almost mandatory for all girls in rich and middle income countries.

[Geomann180]

(11-04-2017 10:13 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

I will ask her for it.
I'm quite sure she will find it for me as well without even questioning why or making a fuss.

There are zero red flags in her behaviour and attitude.
She has no social media profile and even offered me her passwords to her email accounts and phone if I felt jealous.
In this one case I have a gut feeling this is actually what happened.

These tests have become almost mandatory for all girls in rich and middle income countries.

What's this girl's background?

G

[spokepoker]

[Mercenary]

(11-04-2017 10:20 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

What's this girl's background?

G

Middle income asian family.
Very strict father.
She has lived at home her whole life.
Spends most of her day studying.
Has a 9pm curfew.

[spokepoker]

One of the few virgins I've been with was asian (korean), and grew up that way too.
She still flies over to see me every few months, I like her.

[RedPillUK]

I agree it doesn't make sense why you would be tested so early. You would think you need to have an active sex life to be tested for that, but maybe the two things are unrelated, I have no idea.

[Geomann180]

(11-04-2017 10:26 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

Middle income asian family.
Very strict father.
She has lived at home her whole life.
Spends most of her day studying.
Has a 9pm curfew.

College education?

Career aspirations or lack of?

Pardon the sudden questions - I'm just a curious fella and I'm taking notes, as I ultimately want four children of my own someday.

G

[Higgs Bosun]

I had a fob Chinese virgin gf when I was still in college. Took me over 2 months to bang her. During that 2 month period she also went to a hospital to have that same exact test as OP's girl, but they actually asked her if she was a virgin and when she said yes they used a less invasive method to gather the tissue sample instead of a speculum. So there is a way to go about this that doesn't wreck the pussy before your dick can.

Sadly, that was the last time I fucked a virgin. I traveled to China a few times for a month or two at a time and had the opportunity to bang two more virgins, one of whom was 18 and was a 9/10 in my book but didn't have the heart to do it since I knew I would be leaving so soon. I find myself regretting it lol.

[John Michael Kane]

Cervical cancer test? Isn't being a 20-something virgin an automatic rule out for that, given that it has a link with HPV, and seeing she hasn't been sexually active? Unless the women in her family have a history of early-onset cervical cancer, the whole test seems unnecessary, unless she has been sexually active. Do you trust her implicitly? Did the doctor order the test, or did she do it of her own volition? Think about it for a second.

[The Beast1]

I remember reading about hymens breaking from riding a bicycle. I figured any sort of weird force on the vaginal area with an intact hymen could break it.

The medical practitioner probably just saw her age and assumed she needed one regardless of her being a virgin or not. From a doctor's point of view, he probably assumes all women coming through are getting the D fairly regularly. Nurses in particular are literally on auto pilot and just assumed she needed a pap smear done.

Take a holistic point of view of her life and behavior. Has she done anything out of the ordinary? She has a strict curfew and a strong father figure. From what you say, she's a good girl. This forum is a gold mine for teaching men how to sniff out bad female behavior.

I think you're fine bud. Don't worry about this.

[Mercenary]

(11-04-2017 10:54 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

College education?
Career aspirations or lack of?
Pardon the sudden questions - I'm just a curious fella and I'm taking notes, as I ultimately want four children of my own someday.

She studies from home and takes exams somewhere every now and then. Mostly cause her parents tell her to be like this. She obeys them almost implicitly.

For more questions like this - pm me.

(11-04-2017 11:00 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  

I had a fob Chinese virgin gf when I was still in college. Took me over 2 months to bang her. During that 2 month period she also went to a hospital to have that same exact test as OP's girl, but they actually asked her if she was a virgin and when she said yes they used a less invasive method to gather the tissue sample instead of a speculum. So there is a way to go about this that doesn't wreck the pussy before your dick can.

Good to know another person has experienced this situation as well.

(11-04-2017 11:43 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Cervical cancer test? Isn't being a 20-something virgin an automatic rule out for that, given that it has a link with HPV, and seeing she hasn't been sexually active? Unless the women in her family have a history of early-onset cervical cancer, the whole test seems unnecessary, unless she has been sexually active.

Most countries performing these tests do not ask if you are a virgin or any details about sexual history, they just strongly pressure you as a girl to do the test no matter what, with various propaganda methods. The age in which the medical establishment start pestering and scare mongering women about this varies from country to country. I don't know what the "normal age" is in her country to start getting these tests.

(11-04-2017 11:43 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Do you trust her implicitly? Did the doctor order the test, or did she do it of her own volition? Think about it for a second.

I do think she had some (non sexual) health issues last year, so the test may have been recommended by her doctor to rule early onset cancer out.
I will ask her.

She answers all my questions without getting upset or being evasive. If I ask for evidence she gets it. She is the first girl I have known to be this accommodating with detailed responses and real evidence whenever I have doubts. Like I said before, she had no red flags in her behaviour or any signs of knowing anything sexual by expierence. I'm a sceptical person about many things by nature, so I'm the first to be suspicious if something doesn't check out 100%.

Sadly, we have become so accustomed to girls hiding their sluttiness as much as possible, we that we cannot believe a virgin girl past 18 still may exist and that a female may occasionally be actually telling the truth. It's a sad reflection of the reality we now live in.


When I know more from her, I will post it here again.

[Higgs Bosun]

(11-04-2017 11:43 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Cervical cancer test? Isn't being a 20-something virgin an automatic rule out for that, given that it has a link with HPV, and seeing she hasn't been sexually active? Unless the women in her family have a history of early-onset cervical cancer, the whole test seems unnecessary, unless she has been sexually active. Do you trust her implicitly? Did the doctor order the test, or did she do it of her own volition? Think about it for a second.

Nah, that's not how medicine works these days. They have hundreds of "guidelines" such as "female above age of 21 is to have pap smear every 2 years." When the doc sits down in front of his computer and pulls up the electronic medical record, there is a million check-boxes he has to check off before completing the patient visit and moving down the assembly line to patient #35 of the day. He's not going to spend time figuring out if OP's 23 year old girlfriend is the 1/100 girls who has never had sexual activity by that age, he's just going to see she hasn't had a pap smear and will recommend she does.

It's going to be the rare virgin to be on the spot and not only know that cervical cancer is caused by HPV and her lack of sexual activity makes it unlikely she is infected with the virus, but also have that thought process in the 1 second she has to either accept or decline the doctor's recommendation. In the vast majority of cases, the word "cancer" and the fact the doc is recommending what sounds like a pretty innocuous screening test is going to result in a reflexive "yes."

[Beyond Borders]

(11-04-2017 10:13 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(11-04-2017 10:04 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Have you seen the receipt on her doctor visit?

I will ask her for it.
I'm quite sure she will find it for me as well without even questioning why or making a fuss.

There are zero red flags in her behaviour and attitude.
She has no social media profile and even offered me her passwords to her email accounts and phone if I felt jealous.
In this one case I have a gut feeling this is actually what happened.

These invasive cervical cancer tests have become almost mandatory for all girls in rich and middle income countries.

Alright, you had to have known the direction this thread would go. But honestly, what do you hope of accomplishing with this line of questioning?

There's little chance she kept a receipt even if it's true. And unless you've made some unbreakable vow to yourself that you're only going to marry a virgin, I honestly wouldn't give the girl an interrogation on the matter at this point. All you're going to do is drive yourself and her crazy.

The reality of life is that complete certainty is usually out of reach for most things. Unless there are other red flags to take into account, I would let this one go for now. Stay alert but don't spiral into paranoia.

[Mercenary]

(11-05-2017 12:10 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

I think you're fine bud. Don't worry about this.

I don't think you get the point I'm trying to make.
I don't think she is lying.
I'm much more unhappy this is how she lost her virginity.

The hymen should be broken by the first man she has sex with and emotionally bonds with...not in a sanitized chemical smelling hosptial where an old nurse shoves cold metal up your pussy in a probably totally unnecessary medical procedure. She will carry that memory to her dying day. Thats how I got my hymen broken.

Men in the past knew how strongly women emotionally bonded to the men who broke them and turned them from girls into women. That's why in most religions virginity in the female was NON negotiable when a couple married. Even in times when divorce did not exist you still could get your marriaged annulled if she did not bleed after the first sex.