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Quote: (11-05-2017 07:26 AM)realologist Wrote:
You can't lose your virginity from a medical device. Can only lose it from getting fucked by a person. Can't believe this is even a question.
This thread isn't about the definition of virginity.
It's about how a female hymen should be broken by a man in her first sexual experience.
Quote: (11-05-2017 03:03 AM)Kona Wrote:
I have a theory mercenary needs to listen very carefully to:
1. Get tested. Shes got the clap. At 23 years old this "virgin" knows damn well every single thing that's been shoved in that pussy. That's if she really is. If so, why would she neglect to recall the giant piece of stainless steel barbeque tongs that one time from that one doctor. Come on.
My guess, given the aforementioned info, is that the extreme tightness youve experienced is actually acute inflammation brought on by the clap.
You obviously don't have much experience with asian pussy, family structure, or cultural/social norms there otherwise you would know what all RVFers in the far east have known for years.
Besides, even if what you said is even remotely possible, all this happened more a few months ago...symptoms would have shown up by now. And yes, I get regularly tested.
Also, more importantly, why should a girl bring up such an unpleasant topic to a guy she likes, turns her on, and who wants to help her lose her virginity ? Can you imagine a virgin girl saying "oh by the way, an old nurse shafted me with a cold speculum last summer, so technically I don't have a fully unpenetrated pussy...but we can still pretend you broke me first."
Quote: (11-05-2017 03:04 AM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:
It's probably as a means of preventing infection. As you probably know females are much more predisposed to UTIs than males by virtue of the female anatomy. Hymen probably evolved as a means to block bacteria from entering the vagina rather than as some kind of sexual "telltale." The best evidence against the latter theory is that a great many mammals from rats to elephants have hymens as well, and they most likely place little to no value on virginity
I don't buy into this idea.
If this "hymen as a infection/bacteria prevention tool" theory were true women would need their hymens even more AFTER sex and/or childbirth cause of their looser pussies.
As for other mammals, they might use this to verify if a female is "unspoiled" and untaken" so as not to come into conflict with other males who claim her as their own.
Quote: (11-05-2017 03:55 AM)Mage Wrote:
I was in similar situation and I understand how OP feels.
But as I looked in the internet it actually says it's not that uncommon for he first sex to be bloodless. I am not sure if that has to do with hymen breaking or not. Some sources say it's not the hymen that bleeds, but the vaginal walls that are too sensitive and it also may depend on the man, how experienced he is and how rough or gentle he is.
From what I understand, women are intended by nature to lose virginity from ages 16-21. Hymen in women older then that becomes more fragile and can brake more easily from various factors. But I am not sure it is true.
I believe her virginity because I found her secret diary, I know she had briefly dated two men before and kissed including kisses not only on lips, but she hasn't been penetrated. Also other reasons like her being totally inexperienced, easily bonding, no red flags and so on.
I believe Mercenary is experienced enough a member of this forum to trust in his gut instinct in this situation.
Thank you Mage.
Yeah, the internet nowadays says it's not uncommon for the first sex to be bloodless or that hymens are super fagile after age 21, but where's the evidence for that ? Where are all these girls breaking hymens by slipping on bananas or by running too fast to catch a bus ?
Medical books written before the 1950s never stated such things about fragile hymens. They DID however write books for men about HOW to break a hymen on your wedding night. Books like this existed a lot further back.
Also, in many countries in southern century Europe before the 20th century, the usual custom was for a newly married couple to hang the blood stained bedsheets outside their window the day after their first sex. Something doesn't make sense here.
Quote: (11-05-2017 03:55 AM)Mage Wrote:
When I was having the first time sex with my virgin bride, there was no blood, but she was still very tight and it was very painful for the first ten to twenty times. I was still somewhat upset that there was no blood because that is what I was expecting.
We also both expected blood and brought towels to deal with it. She was scared and anxious but wanted me to do it anyway. Her nervousness was unlike any other girl I had ever been with. Also on the day I finally penetrated her it took about 5 or 6 tries until it actually worked. Each time I would try to push inside she would instictually squirm her body upwards on the bed as soon as she felt pain. She would always apologise each time and a few minutes later ask me to try to enter again. Same thing would happen over and over.
Finally, I realised the only way this was going to work is if I used a harsher method. Without warning, I held her down firmly by her shoulders so she couldn't get away, looked her dead in the eyes, and said in a really severe stern voice "
don't move". She got real scared and freezed up....I was able to finally push inside and the rest is history.
She has thanked me many times since then for doing it that way. She admitted it was totally necessary in that scenario.
None of this behaviour would make sense if she already knew what sex was like.