[nomadbrah]

If you're going to adopt, definitely better to go with parents like this with kids already.

Many horror stories with infertile careerist parents (usually women) mistreating their adopted children. Usually burdening the child with a false burden of gratitude: "I saved you from starvation and death". Or not being satisfied when someone with different genes from your own don't behave like you do.

[Transsimian]

If a terminally ill close friend wanted me and my [hypothetical] wife to adopt their children I'd do it.

Otherwise, I'm not cucking myself to help reckless people spread their genes at my expense.

[HermeticAlly]

The problem with trying to dissuade Christians from this sort of behavior is that you'll get hit back with emotional appeals saying something like, "But adopting kids from a different culture into our home is a reflection of the Gospel because God adopted us into HIS home while we were still "aliens"/sinners/enemies/etc.!" It's a mindset that propagates itself through the power of appearing virtuous and feeling good about yourself, without giving sufficient consideration to the idea of whether parents from such a vastly different culture are really a good fit, vs. the less conspicuous but higher chances of success for raising a kid of one's own race, who will probably fit into the family and surrounding culture more naturally.

It's one thing if you're adopting a kid as a baby, another if they're a few years into elementary school like this group, and have already been acculturated into their home culture. As much as I hope it works out for them, I wouldn't be surprised if this goes badly. Either way, you're likely to wind up with kids who experience an identity crisis and associated stresses because they don't know to which group they belong. (I suspect many interracial kids have a similar experience.)

Has anyone ever heard of black Americans (Christian or otherwise) adopting children from Africa? I sure haven't. Actually, I struggle to think of any non-white adoptive parents I've met.

[Disco_Volante]

It's shit like this that makes me want to give up on the west. So many are committed to their own destruction or otherwise blind to it, it's a waste to spend your life trying to help them.

[frozen-ace]

Adoptions aren't cheap. I had a friend who did this, and each adoption cost about $40k. They probably went into debt to finance this, and did the rest through fundraising.

They are going to be on every form of welfare- earned income tax credit, child tax credit, food stamps, energy assistance, state funded child medical care and dental...with that many kids you qualify for EVERYTHING.

[Samseau]

(10-03-2017 03:38 PM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  

The problem with trying to dissuade Christians from this sort of behavior is that you'll get hit back with emotional appeals saying something like, "But adopting kids from a different culture into our home is a reflection of the Gospel because God adopted us into HIS home while we were still "aliens"/sinners/enemies/etc.!" It's a mindset that propagates itself through the power of appearing virtuous and feeling good about yourself, without giving sufficient consideration to the idea of whether parents from such a vastly different culture are really a good fit, vs. the less conspicuous but higher chances of success for raising a kid of one's own race, who will probably fit into the family and surrounding culture more naturally.

It's one thing if you're adopting a kid as a baby, another if they're a few years into elementary school like this group, and have already been acculturated into their home culture. As much as I hope it works out for them, I wouldn't be surprised if this goes badly. Either way, you're likely to wind up with kids who experience an identity crisis and associated stresses because they don't know to which group they belong. (I suspect many interracial kids have a similar experience.)

Has anyone ever heard of black Americans (Christian or otherwise) adopting children from Africa? I sure haven't. Actually, I struggle to think of any non-white adoptive parents I've met.

See, the difference between actual Christians and fake Christians is that in the olden days, if you wanted to make a difference somewhere in the world you became a missionary.

You packed your bags, moved out to a different culture, and spread the Word. You became Neighbors and worked with them each day to help out. This is in imitation of the original disciples of Christ. Becoming a missionary meant you did not get special recognition from your homeland either. You basically disappeared and it would be decades before anyone heard from you again.

These adoptive "parents" want to skip the hard parts of being a missionary while enjoying the rewards of feeling like a martyr. They have placed heavy burdens on their actual Neighbors by requesting aid to help raise their "kids" in the America even though they could have, for the same amount of money it takes to raise 10 kids in America, helped 300+ more in Sierra Leone. Not to mention the heavy tax burden.

The more I examine this situation, the worse it looks from every angle. This is a sick woman masquerading as a Christian enabled by her beta cuck husband. She's doing more damage to people's lives than she actually is helping the kids due to the extreme costs imposed on everyone around her. She also makes the faith look bad and turns people away from Christ: "This is Christianity? A bunch of fuckin nutjobs who waste money...!"

That said, I have seen Black Christian couples who have been charitable to White folks. I've seen them take in White kids in trouble and help them get by until they are back on their feet. The idea that only Whites are altruistic is false. There are many good and loving Black Neighbors out there, but they don't write books praising themselves.

[TravelerKai]

(10-04-2017 03:08 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 03:38 PM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  

The problem with trying to dissuade Christians from this sort of behavior is that you'll get hit back with emotional appeals saying something like, "But adopting kids from a different culture into our home is a reflection of the Gospel because God adopted us into HIS home while we were still "aliens"/sinners/enemies/etc.!" It's a mindset that propagates itself through the power of appearing virtuous and feeling good about yourself, without giving sufficient consideration to the idea of whether parents from such a vastly different culture are really a good fit, vs. the less conspicuous but higher chances of success for raising a kid of one's own race, who will probably fit into the family and surrounding culture more naturally.

It's one thing if you're adopting a kid as a baby, another if they're a few years into elementary school like this group, and have already been acculturated into their home culture. As much as I hope it works out for them, I wouldn't be surprised if this goes badly. Either way, you're likely to wind up with kids who experience an identity crisis and associated stresses because they don't know to which group they belong. (I suspect many interracial kids have a similar experience.)

Has anyone ever heard of black Americans (Christian or otherwise) adopting children from Africa? I sure haven't. Actually, I struggle to think of any non-white adoptive parents I've met.

See, the difference between actual Christians and fake Christians is that in the olden days, if you wanted to make a difference somewhere in the world you became a missionary.

You packed your bags, moved out to a different culture, and spread the Word. You became Neighbors and worked with them each day to help out. This is in imitation of the original disciples of Christ. Becoming a missionary meant you did not get special recognition from your homeland either. You basically disappeared and it would be decades before anyone heard from you again.

These adoptive "parents" want to skip the hard parts of being a missionary while enjoying the rewards of feeling like a martyr. They have placed heavy burdens on their actual Neighbors by requesting aid to help raise their "kids" in the America even though they could have, for the same amount of money it takes to raise 10 kids in America, helped 300+ more in Sierra Leone. Not to mention the heavy tax burden.

The more I examine this situation, the worse it looks from every angle. This is a sick woman masquerading as a Christian enabled by her beta cuck husband. She's doing more damage to people's lives than she actually is helping the kids due to the extreme costs imposed on everyone around her. She also makes the faith look bad and turns people away from Christ: "This is Christianity? A bunch of fuckin nutjobs who waste money...!"

That said, I have seen Black Christian couples who have been charitable to White folks. I've seen them take in White kids in trouble and help them get by until they are back on their feet. The idea that only Whites are altruistic is false. There are many good and loving Black Neighbors out there, but they don't write books praising themselves.

Vastly underrated Samseau post right here. Might even be top 20 Samseau post worthy.

[RedPillUK]

"Dissuading" them with facts and logic isn't going to work. These ridiculous christ-cucks should be shamed. Talk about real and fake Christians all you want, but all of the ones I've met seem to be these types of Christians, including priests. I went to a 'Catholic' school and basically got taught socialism and "treat others as you want to be treated" bullshit. Christianity is subverted and annoying or maybe it always was.

[Samseau]

(10-04-2017 09:57 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

"Dissuading" them with facts and logic isn't going to work. These ridiculous christ-cucks should be shamed. Talk about real and fake Christians all you want, but all of the ones I've met seem to be these types of Christians, including priests. I went to a 'Catholic' school and basically got taught socialism and "treat others as you want to be treated" bullshit. Christianity is subverted and annoying or maybe it always was.

Mathew 7

15 `But, take heed of the false prophets, who come unto you in sheep's clothing, and inwardly are ravening wolves.
16 From their fruits ye shall know them; do [men] gather from thorns grapes? or from thistles figs?
17 so every good tree doth yield good fruits, but the bad tree doth yield evil fruits.
18 A good tree is not able to yield evil fruits, nor a bad tree to yield good fruits.
19 Every tree not yielding good fruit is cut down and is cast to fire:
20 therefore from their fruits ye shall know them.


^ This is yet another passage which refutes the "never judge" crowd. How can you recognize false prophets without judgement? Be skeptical, but don't judge people by standards you wouldn't judge on yourself.

And by the way, Christ never says to "never judge," he says,

1 Judge not, that ye may not be judged,
2 for in what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged, and in what measure ye measure, it shall be measured to you.

Huge difference between "judge not," and "never judge."

[HermeticAlly]

Well put Samseau. It's very telling how all the SJW Christians have basically no interest in mission work.

[Leonard D Neubache]

The debate between scripture and current practice is purely academic.

It doesn't matter if Christians are scripturally incorrect in cucking to the point where their nations are overrun by hostile barbarians. The fact is that they cuck and show no signs of slowing their cuckery. Like good masochists they have a persecution and punishment fetish. Talk to most of them about islamic terrorist attacks and they'll don a rather sickening smile and tell you that the victims are in heaven and that earthly suffering is simply part of God's plan. Bring up the possibility that importing muslims en-masse is perhaps bad policy and their eyes glaze over. See, the countries those muslims come from are (by sheer coincidence apparently) shit-holes. It would therefore be un-Christianly to refuse admittance to these poor, downtrodden souls who might otherwise lead poorer lives.

Christianity has been entirely co-opted into a system of belief for feminine cowards incapable of making hard choices and protecting their own. Whether this is a flaw in the coding or a result of outside interference is irrelevant. Christianity only survived this long because international travel was for the longest time a dangerous and difficult process and because xenophobia was rightfully still hardwired into our societies.

[nomadbrah]

(10-04-2017 11:06 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

2 for in what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged, and in what measure ye measure, it shall be measured to you.

Quote:

Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law.

[spydersuit]

I can understand the situation somewhat. My wife's grandparents are uber liberals of white Scandinavian descent that live in Minneapolis (big shock right?). Anyways, after my mother-in-law was born her grandmother had a hysterectomy performed (or something similar due to birth complications). My wife's grandmother wanted more kids and her grandfather would only agree to it if they adopted non-white kids from messed-up backgrounds, and they ended up adopting 6 kids and this how it turned out (fake names):

1. Jenny - Black - Con artist/thief/kids at 16/kids are all the same

2. Jessica - Black - Dead in 30s - drug user and prostitute - daughter is hoe now just like ma'

3. Mark - Asian - Marine corp vet - conservative - hates most of his family, serious women and relationship problems. lol

4. Gloria - Indian/Spanish mix - Director in major Fashion company, feminist, nice person and good family/kids

5. Roberto - Native / Black - Army Vet, Fireman, conservative, family traditional guy, probably reading this thread

6. Mary - White - Uber feminist, straight shooter, funny, hippy, good family and kids

7. Anne (Wife's mother natural born) - uber feminist - hypocrite, although - very domesticated, serves husband well, raised my wife and her brother ok - Brother-in-law is a cuck/bitch

Some of the kids turned out great, and some did not. Thank the grandfather for improving the lives of the successful kids, and sparing society of the incarceration costs of the turds. The funny thing is the grandfather gives all of their money to the black family members that perpetually rip him off and manipulate him. It is the weirdest white guilt that I have ever scene. Oh, and he "hates white people" now. The worst part is all of the siblings came together to prevent their criminal siblings from spending all of his retirement, because he would gladly give all his money to these criminals.

[armenia4ever]

Here's a question - why didnt the adopt the numerous kids in the US here who are suffering, left alone, or wasting away in foster care?

When me and my wife lived in Missouri, one of my old bosses and his wife were unable to have children. (7 miscarriages - all early on. Something to do with her thryoid.)

They adopted a white girl, and three brothers. Two of the brothers were hispanic and one was half hispanic/half black. They didn't write a book about it. There's no bragging about it. No, "Look at me and how incredible we are!"

The reason for the adoption were the kids were all from troubled back grounds. The boys had a mother who was a druggie and had various different boy friends at all times.

Key thing is they got these kids young - exception of the girl being five years old. The boys were all infants. Note that this is during the diaper change staging, the terrible twos, and all the unglorious parts of parenthood that people forget about.

The boys have something vastly important for every boy to have - a father. The boys are healthy, active, and will be learning various different trades from a young age.

Other key thing is that they respect their father. It's crazy how different it is with many other families where the kids even from young ages are filled with disrespect.

[augen sehen]

Good money is on her fucking one or more of the older boys. If not now, then soon.

I know a woman in her 40's who was married to a man, similar age. They didn't/couldn't have kids and somehow adopted a troubled teen whom she somehow knew. Maybe he didn't have parents or something happened to them, or he ran away. They raised him from a fairly young age, throughout his teens. When I got to know her, she introduced him as her adopted son.

Turns out she was fucking him since he was 15 or 16. She left her husband for him soon after he turned 19 and last I heard, is still trying to turn him into a productive member of society.

[Fortis]

(10-03-2017 11:50 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Adopting kids of another race is weird, plain and simple. Fortis and others said it more precisely than I have.

I didn't say that.

I think it's fine to adopt kids of another race, but I was pointing more towards nationality. There is no reason they couldn't have adopted 8 Black, White, Asian or Middle Eastern American kids. I wouldn't feel that annoyed since it would be Americans taking care of their own instead of virtue signalers bringing more bodies and mouths from another continent.

From what I read, these people have no skin in the game in Africa. It's not like they were missionaries who lived in Africa for 10 years, learned some local dialects and absolutely know the culture of the kids they're bringing over. Nah, they just watched some infomercials and just knew they had to do something about Africa!

One big criticism I have of American Christians is that they're often too concerned with the international shit and not concerned enough with our domestic problems. The American foster system is fucking awful. Rescue those kids and teach them what it means to be a Christian, not some random Africans you have no connection to.

At least if they had adopted American kids they could at least understand where the kids are coming from and the challenges that they'll face as they grow up. Fuck, I'm Black and I would be totally in the dark raising kids from Africa. So, I don't have high hopes for this couple being able to pull it off.

They gotta go back.

[The Beast1]

(10-06-2017 11:10 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 11:50 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Adopting kids of another race is weird, plain and simple. Fortis and others said it more precisely than I have.

I didn't say that.

I know, that's my own opinion. I agree with your statement about international adoptions of kids from obscure 3rd world African nations.

[etshella]

When I see/hear stories like this, my first thought is for the thousands of needy kids they flew by on the way to adopt. I don't get it.

[Suits]

(10-11-2017 08:26 PM)etshella Wrote:  

When I see/hear stories like this, my first thought is for the thousands of needy kids they flew by on the way to adopt. I don't get it.

Maybe their desire was, for better or for worse, to help those who had the greatest need.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Crystal ball time.

Father is at work. Mother is at home. Oldest boy concocts some reason to stay at home for the day, as teenagers do. Mother hamsters that it's warmer than she first thought and changes into a short, flighty summer dress. Mother hamsters that she desperately needs to vacuum whatever room oldest boy is in. Mother is set upon. Mounts a pathetic resistance hamstered under the guise of not wanting to hurt the child. Leaves the room after being fucked. Hamsters that oldest boy will know he's done the wrong thing but there's no reason to let father know since it will just make things harder. Showers and changes back into morning clothes, realising it's really not that warm after all. Hamsters up the need to make oldest boy a sandwich because she doesn't want him to think that she hates him.

From the oldest boy's perspective. Makes up some bullshit to stay home. Playing video games. "Mum" walks in wearing some slutty dress she wasn't wearing before, sweating pure fuck-me hormones, making up some shit about having to vacuum the floor she vacuumed two days earlier. She gets on her hands and knees to get to the spots under the bed. "Fuck it" says oldest boy, and makes his move. She provides the level of "no" that utterly means "yes, but rougher". After he's done she doesn't complain or yell. In fact she comes back 10 minutes later with a sandwich.

By the end of the week he's already fucked her another four times and worries about how long it's going to be until he has to share her with his next youngest brother.

[General Stalin]

I don't know how this sort of thing works. Why 8? Did they get some kind of package deal? Why not 4? Or why not 10?

[Kid Twist]

Leonard, that's pretty far out there, I'm skeptical, even having heard a lot on this forum

[CJ_W]

(10-12-2017 06:50 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Crystal ball time.

Father is at work. Mother is at home. Oldest boy concocts some reason to stay at home for the day, as teenagers do. Mother hamsters that it's warmer than she first thought and changes into a short, flighty summer dress. Mother hamsters that she desperately needs to vacuum whatever room oldest boy is in. Mother is set upon. Mounts a pathetic resistance hamstered under the guise of not wanting to hurt the child. Leaves the room after being fucked. Hamsters that oldest boy will know he's done the wrong thing but there's no reason to let father know since it will just make things harder. Showers and changes back into morning clothes, realising it's really not that warm after all. Hamsters up the need to make oldest boy a sandwich because she doesn't want him to think that she hates him.

From the oldest boy's perspective. Makes up some bullshit to stay home. Playing video games. "Mum" walks in wearing some slutty dress she wasn't wearing before, sweating pure fuck-me hormones, making up some shit about having to vacuum the floor she vacuumed two days earlier. She gets on her hands and knees to get to the spots under the bed. "Fuck it" says oldest boy, and makes his move. She provides the level of "no" that utterly means "yes, but rougher". After he's done she doesn't complain or yell. In fact she comes back 10 minutes later with a sandwich.

By the end of the week he's already fucked her another four times and worries about how long it's going to be until he has to share her with his next youngest brother.

So basically, she imported exotic dick.

And she has 6 more to go through once they come of age.

Not really so Christian now is it.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(10-12-2017 06:26 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  

Leonard, that's pretty far out there, I'm skeptical, even having heard a lot on this forum

That's OK. I'm just doing focus groups for my new career writing interracial porn romance novels.