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07-22-2017, 07:14 PM
Wow. This subject brings up so many different topics.
Firstly, its very sad to hear of a member of this community's untimely death.
So my thoughts are with his family, his close friends, and most of all, himself.
I hope that wherever he is now, he is happy and free from all the troubles of our (and ofcourse his own!) earthly existence. I also hope that his family and close friends can move on and be at peace, remembering just the good.
Having said that, I take a really dim view of some of what he did. Other things I don't know, and other things I kind of understand. If I knew someone selling heroin etc to my kids or whatever, I'd really take a dim view of it, without discussing it further. And the guns/financial fraud certainly has issues to it. As for cocaine/weed etc, TBH I don't have a problem with it, as its a substance I would take myself... til I became my more "sensible" self.
I don't think we'll ever truly know all the facts. All we can do is speculate on some of it. I wonder how much his activity here contributed to his downfall. And ofcourse I wonder about how he died.
Additionally, I do sometimes wonder about the various definitions of "alpha" and "red pill". To me, thinking that "alpha" is just a mindset, and about taking risks alone is very wrong. Its also wrong to think that "rules are only for the betas and fools". ANYONE can take risks, ANYONE can trample over the rules and say "they don't apply to me". But as he alluded to himself, thats an oversimplistic belief, one destined to cause misery in just a moment.
I've seen a few people attempt "short cuts" as it could be described. It skyrocketed some, it caused misery for some, and death for some. For others, it just meant a life of fear or sadness. Karma might not be like the classical definition, but I really have seen something like it operate on people. I wonder if Alex even semi wanted the massive money making to end.
Ultimately, he was a member of our community. If he sold smack to my family etc I'd have no moral qualms in hospitalising him. But he can't harm anyone now. Competition and continual acquisition is fine... up to a degree. Perhaps he could have been pulled away from his path if he hadn't succumbed to the temptation to bling it all up. I'm sure a cause of that was the fact he'd previously felt insecure and seen as worthless to some (probably even to himself!). The posts of the Alex I saw just showed someone who really wanted to help his fellow community members. So despite the apparent bad, there WAS much good in him. I heard elsewhere that he gave away 15k USD to some guy who's family were on the breadline.
I know a guy who was far far richer than Alex. He died recently. Whether its accident or an "accident on purpose" we probably won't know. My guess is that he was taken out, due to the shennanigans of his business and its "invisible backers". If we can save just one life from similar path of catastrophe on this forum then to me, that would be a valuable achievement.
TBH maybe what I'm saying is bs. I don't know what the answer to it all is. But maybe we can all learn from his occurrences. About what is truly alpha and how there is something incredibly transient about life, whatever path we might take.
Sure Alex was deeply flawed. But his life was taken far too early. And thats the first and last thing I will remember in all this.
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07-22-2017, 08:07 PM
Rawmeo's story would make a fantastic movie. Anyone on the forum in the movie business or have Hollywood connections?
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07-22-2017, 08:29 PM
Quote: (01-15-2017 09:08 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:
This is a debate I was having with my wife today. As a business owner, I strongly favor ethics rather than money.
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What are you guys opinion on that?
I will just leave these words here, I am not judging.
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07-22-2017, 08:59 PM
Quote: (07-22-2017 07:52 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:
Quote: (07-22-2017 02:30 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:
How much unique traffic did this drive to RVF and ROK?
This could be a problem for the forum going forward: how many stupid, careless men looking to be criminal players are going to wander our way, now that there's social proof that we're not living in our mother's basements?
I'd say when I was a kid, most biker gang types were just Sigma males. Years of government and media hype turned them into magnets for hardcore criminals, to the extent Sigmas don't see the point of taking the fall for someone else's stupid bullshit, so stick to being a lone wolf. Perhaps that's a subversive tactic to stop western men gathering together in strong tribal groups: encourage the introduction of dysfunctional actors. The obvious tactic being to introduce women into every male environment, but to a lesser degree, gays, transsexuals, mental defectives or idiotic criminals work to destroy group unity just as well.
Who wants to emulate a guy that got caught and committed "suicide" though?
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07-22-2017, 09:42 PM
He used Chinese arbitrage shops, which allowed him to exchange in baht and USD.
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07-22-2017, 10:58 PM
Quote: (07-22-2017 07:52 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:
Quote: (07-22-2017 02:30 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:
How much unique traffic did this drive to RVF and ROK?
This could be a problem for the forum going forward: how many stupid, careless men looking to be criminal players are going to wander our way, now that there's social proof that we're not living in our mother's basements?
I'd say when I was a kid, most biker gang types were just Sigma males. Years of government and media hype turned them into magnets for hardcore criminals, to the extent Sigmas don't see the point of taking the fall for someone else's stupid bullshit, so stick to being a lone wolf. Perhaps that's a subversive tactic to stop western men gathering together in strong tribal groups: encourage the introduction of dysfunctional actors. The obvious tactic being to introduce women into every male environment, but to a lesser degree, gays, transsexuals, mental defectives or idiotic criminals work to destroy group unity just as well.
Criminals are a lot like regular people in that regard. You only have to worry about associating with them if they're sloppy, emotional idiots.
Personally I'd qualify it as a knock-on effect of the hippy boomers becoming teachers and brainwashing kids to accept emotional defectives into their social circles, against all instincts and no matter the consequences. "You have to be nice to
everyone, OR ELSE."
It's a strong and often overlooked indoctrination most of us suffered if we went to a public school and I personally only cut that programming out of my OS about ten years ago.
It's amazing how deep that shit can run. Even at age 25 I would find myself at a party with my mates and someone would introduce "Bob" to us, who we knew
instantly was a giant emotional disorder wrapped in a disguise of shy-ness. None-the-less we'd all stand there uncomfortably trying to make him feel like one of the guys for several hours rather than simply telling him "buddy, just stand there and nod while we talk to each other and it'll all be over by midnight."
"We'll give you that much. We're not
monsters, after all."
The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
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07-23-2017, 02:03 AM
Lately I haven't been able to keep up as well, but this entire story has been a tremendous surprise.
When news broke out about a regular forum member dying it was sad and I gave my condolences. After all , most of us have been in other communities as well and it happens as well (Remember the passing of the private man here in this one).
In my own flesh and bone life I've also passingly met people that went on to the next one.
To know the story behind the forum poster was something I did not imagine I would ever know.
What can I say? It's a story beyond my imagination and quite outside my spectrum of familiarity.
It is sad to see a young man in his prime gone, his deeds were condemnable but what else can be said? I had never interacted with him enough that I feel I can pass an adequate judgment nor eulogy.
I will maintain my salute to the memory of a member that passed away and lament the life choices of a young man that should have reflected more on the consequences of the path he took, as others here have said.
If anything, we can take this as a lesson on the value of humility and try to learn whatever can be learnt from it...?
We move between light and shadow, mutually influencing and being influenced through shades of gray...
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07-23-2017, 03:00 AM
What is the "hustle" that some dudes are "respecting" here exactly?
Is it facilitating the sale of..
..stolen credit cards and identity documents?
..firearms to to felons?
..fentanyl to teens?
Man some of you guys must be some really hardcore libertarians for this to be written off as simply "sticking it to the man". What the CIA is doing has nothing to do with this.
He was not simply selling some ripped CD's and bags of weed, grinding a way to feed his children.
My brother lost everything to identity theft last year and had to move in with our parents at age 40. When true identity theft happens, when a person/group gets everything about you, they are you as far as the banks are concerned. He is only now, a year later, getting some of his money back. And this is putting aside the fact that he lost his job in a hight tech high paid industry and is back on the bottle heavily from depression. It will take years, if ever, to get back where he was.
But, it's all good, because people like this skinny-fat Quebecois loser with Thai 5 wife got to play pretend for a while in Lambos before off-ing themselves.
Americans are dreamers too
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07-23-2017, 03:13 AM
Quote: (07-23-2017 03:09 AM)Mercenary Wrote:
Is this the way you want the forum to talk about you when you finally kick the bucket GlobalMan ?
If it is discovered that I have been facilitating the destruction of an untold number of lives, possibly even people close to you, then yes you should absolutely talk about me this way.
Americans are dreamers too