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The Gamma Megathread

The Gamma Megathread

Quote: (07-22-2017 12:02 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

One last little tidbit on this:

Firestarter wondered in another thread a couple of weeks back if a Nasa Test Pilot Personality is a subset of Gamma, or something else entirely. I've known a couple of NTP's in real life, so was trying to get a handle on what exactly they are, because they're definitely some form of Gamma. Note my logic:

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Whilst a Gamma might create a sockpuppet to win an argument, an NTP will create many entirely-separate personas, with detailed backstories, and spend hours creating long conversations with 'himself', all to increase the attention upon or popularity of one or two profiles in particular. Problem is, these personas frequently 'leak' into each other, tipping off a careful observer.

For anyone interested, this discussion is in the Hater's Lounge thread where I posted "I hate NASA test pilots". At the time a relatively new poster had started gaining traction and within a short time had four rep points. It looked like we were going to get a repeat of what happened last year. And it did. Fortunately the cycle was relatively short and he was banned quickly.

The cycle is:
1. Enters a group, makes a big entrance, most people think he's awesome
2. Some people have suspicions, but say nothing because there's nothing concrete
3. Inconsistencies are observed and talked about
4. People take sides
5. The NTP is either expelled or the group implodes

The interesting thing about this, is that there were other people who pointed out the similarities to NTP. I don't believe it was the same person, the original NTP, despite being full of shit, was reasonably intelligent. This one was not a premium NTP. From what I can tell there is zero correlation between intelligence and whether someone's a Gamma/NTP. One of the real life NTPs I've known was dumb as dog shit. That didn't stop the cycle from happening.

One thing that I've overlooked with these types is their tendency to create multiple online accounts that talk to each other. I guess that's because it's not something that would even occur to me to do, logically I'm thinking that's way too much effort for minimal benefit. Then again, their logic isn't something that's going to make sense to most of us.
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Quote: (07-25-2017 01:36 AM)FireStarter Wrote:  

One thing that I've overlooked with these types is their tendency to create multiple online accounts that talk to each other. I guess that's because it's not something that would even occur to me to do, logically I'm thinking that's way too much effort for minimal benefit.

What are you talking about Firestarter? Even if you had to run multiple accounts with detailed backstories, and log in and out constantly and sometimes forget who you're playing, it wouldn't matter. Because then you'd be right! Everyone would know you were right! And the person who didn't think were right would be forced to eat shit! In front of everyone! And then everyone would know they were wrong and you were right! So there!

If that makes sense to you. You're Gamma.

If that seems like too much work to you, you're probably Alpha or Beta.

If you feel have visible look of contempt on your face at the whole idea of anyone fucking around like that for what amounts to a virtual pat on the head, and you're driven to expose them, then you're Sigma.

Huh, that's just confirmed a long-held suspicion about another member. I remember saying to him "If I look into this for you, you're not going to use this information to cause trouble now, are you?"

"Oh no! It's purely to satisy my own curiousity."

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I just noticed an article today obviously-written by him under another pen-name, no doubt to get closer to his target of contempt.

Sigmas gonna Sigma.
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Quote: (07-18-2017 05:40 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

^ To his credit, the Walking Dead is pretty boring and fucking lame...

Frank Darabont is an overvalued uncreative hack.

The Shawshank Redemption was based on a story by Stephen King and actually disappointed in the box office despite the fantastic story.

The Walking Dead is based on a comic novel - still running - written by another man. It's not that boring in the comics as it was in the series.

That guy was mostly busy doing crappy projects - his biggest hits were mostly based on good material that was created by Robert Kirkman (Walking Dead) or Stephen King (Shawshank).

That Walter White article by Krauser is gold - by the way. https://krauserpua.com/2013/08/29/walter...lpha-male/
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Quote: (07-25-2017 12:31 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

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I think the last thing in the world you want to see is Julian Assange saying, "Now this is fun" followed by your name.

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Quote: (07-19-2017 10:28 AM)bbgun Wrote:  

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have a blessed day, y'all

I still can't believe the whole 'hover hand' thing or how it even started to become the expected norm for photos like this. Did the conventions start to post or distribute a policy or what?

When I first started seeing photos like this, about a few years ago, I thought the photographer had just taken the shot too soon and not waited for the people to be ready. i.e. I thought the guy was still in the process of placing his hand around and on the woman but the photo got snapped too soon. I didn't realize the whole "hand hover" was intended until people started to post about it online.
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Quote: (07-25-2017 03:33 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The Shawshank Redemption was based on a story by Stephen King and actually disappointed in the box office despite the fantastic story.

The Walking Dead is based on a comic novel - still running - written by another man. It's not that boring in the comics as it was in the series.


Does that make him a literary cuck?

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All this armchair wannabe Sigmund Freud analysis obsession over Gammas seems pretty Omega to me.

How will this help with self improvement?
How will this turn you into a better person?
Will you gain anything from this?

No all across the board.

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Apparently "Andrew MCDonald" is one of his alias'. Check out the linked review on this tweet. This was the most interesting line for me...

"For all I know, it could just be one person -- but if not, it is a handful of obsessed people working together"

Quote:[url=https://twitter.com/therealbiostate/status/889708521318514688][/url]
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Quote: (07-25-2017 04:07 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

All this armchair wannabe Sigmund Freud analysis obsession over Gammas seems pretty Omega to me.

How will this help with self improvement?
How will this turn you into a better person?
Will you gain anything from this?

No all across the board.


On first glance, your post makes sense.


But...a lot of times, you have to look things from a more broader prospective. It does not matter whether it's politics, SMP or this very thread.


The way I see it, a lot of stories here basically tells us how not to behave, and about the consequences of such behavior. That can indeed help you to become a better person, and to help you in your self improvement. If I tell you that this topic did not help me...I would be lying to you.
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Quote: (07-25-2017 01:54 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Quote: (07-25-2017 01:36 AM)FireStarter Wrote:  

One thing that I've overlooked with these types is their tendency to create multiple online accounts that talk to each other. I guess that's because it's not something that would even occur to me to do, logically I'm thinking that's way too much effort for minimal benefit.

What are you talking about Firestarter? Even if you had to run multiple accounts with detailed backstories, and log in and out constantly and sometimes forget who you're playing, it wouldn't matter. Because then you'd be right! Everyone would know you were right! And the person who didn't think were right would be forced to eat shit! In front of everyone! And then everyone would know they were wrong and you were right! So there!

If that makes sense to you. You're Gamma.

If it ever turns out one day that you two are the same person... my head will explode.

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Quote: (01-19-2016 11:26 PM)ordinaryleastsquared Wrote:  
I stand by my analysis.
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Quote: (07-25-2017 04:07 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

All this armchair wannabe Sigmund Freud analysis obsession over Gammas seems pretty Omega to me.

How will this help with self improvement?
How will this turn you into a better person?
Will you gain anything from this?

No all across the board.

I guess if you're Tom Hanks, stranded alone on an island, then no, learning about how to detect, diagnose and deal with the mentally ill is of no use at all.

For the rest of us it pays to learn what makes these loons tick because invariably we will have to negotiate the world and all the people in it.

People skills.
Win friends and influence people.
Gain the upper hand in social dealings with Gammas.

Yes all across the board.

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Quote: (07-26-2017 07:32 AM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  

If it ever turns out one day that you two are the same person... my head will explode.

You're quite safe on that one.

But what if you and me are the same person.....


In seriousness, I think after a long enough time frame, anyone with multiple personas will be discovered. People write how they think, this doesn't mean they can't pretend to be someone/something else, but if someone is pretending there is going to be something just a little bit off about it.

You can't know what you don't know.

When someone's trying to pass themselves off as vastly different to who they are, the best they can do is imagine what their persona is thinking. What happens is it's an approximation, close to the real thing but there's a piece missing. You see this happen on this forum a fair bit, when women join and try to pass themselves off as men.

Edit: As soon as I posted this, I noticed this thread (I'm not sure if she was trying to remain undiscovered)
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Quote: (07-25-2017 04:07 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

All this armchair wannabe Sigmund Freud analysis obsession over Gammas seems pretty Omega to me.

How will this help with self improvement?
How will this turn you into a better person?
Will you gain anything from this?

No all across the board.

Before I took the red pill, I definitely had some of these tendencies. I was passive aggressive, snarky, and socially uncalibrated. I wasn't the worse example of these behaviors, but I was definitely guilty.

Calling it out, and instructing people who are able to understand and change is well worth it. I haven't analyzed the question end to end, but I suspect there is a huge overlap between blue pill behavior and gamma behavior. Most blue pill men need to learn to sack up and stand up for themselves, and to be bold and forthright in the way they deal with women they want to bang, the way they deal with other people, and the way they take on life's problems. Anyone who truly does this will pretty much stop being gamma.

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Quote: (07-25-2017 04:07 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

All this armchair wannabe Sigmund Freud analysis obsession over Gammas seems pretty Omega to me.

How will this help with self improvement?
How will this turn you into a better person?
Will you gain anything from this?

No all across the board.

Mate it's like sports or the boxing thread. Some of us like to play Freud instead. Shit no one's gotten on your ass about MILF sport fucking(we know that's your real hobby). So chill mate.

Go shit on the Politics and War guys instead.

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Quote: (07-26-2017 07:32 AM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  

If it ever turns out one day that you two are the same person... my head will explode.

It's easy to get paranoid.

A member, whom I've always said has razor-sharp perceptive skills, pointed out to me yesterday: 'Leonard The New Bosch'.

Me:

[Image: mindblown.gif]

Except, I thought back to my High School German about street names and liking a particular 80's industrial band: Wouldn't Neubauche sound like NOY - BOW - K?
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Quote: (07-26-2017 07:35 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

I guess if you're Tom Hanks, stranded alone on an island, then no, learning about how to detect, diagnose and deal with the mentally ill is of no use at all.

For the rest of us it pays to learn what makes these loons tick because invariably we will have to negotiate the world and all the people in it.

I think Gamma identification is a very useful skill, and my skills have definitely been sharpened by this thread. I was reading an old car magazine earlier and came across this letter to the editor...

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I was watching channel 31 on 5/8/08. While watching they did an interview with a member of the Early Falcon Car Club. The member of the Early Falcon Car Club stated that The Early Falcon Car Club is 14 years old.
The Early Falcon Car Club is 22 years old.
I would like to advise all Early Falcon Car Club members that the Early Falcon Car Club is not 14 years old but 22 years old.
I formed the Early Falcon Car Club in 1984 / 1985. I am the ex President of this club. People should get their facts right.
I hope this has corrected the truth.

(redacted)
Ex President
Early Falcon Car Club
Box Hill, VIC

I wonder why he's not president any more.

Quote: (01-19-2016 11:26 PM)ordinaryleastsquared Wrote:  
I stand by my analysis.
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Quote: (07-26-2017 05:35 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Quote: (07-26-2017 07:32 AM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  

If it ever turns out one day that you two are the same person... my head will explode.

...
A member, whom I've always said has razor-sharp perceptive skills, pointed out to me yesterday: 'Leonard The New Bosch'.
...

Like the new version of Coke. Add a bit of lemon or vanilla and it sells well for a few weeks before everyone goes back to old-faithful.

The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
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I AGREE WITH LEONARD HE IS WISE AND ALL-KNOWING
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Quote: (08-07-2017 04:10 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (07-26-2017 05:35 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Quote: (07-26-2017 07:32 AM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  

If it ever turns out one day that you two are the same person... my head will explode.

I stand by my analysis.

Quote: (01-19-2016 11:26 PM)ordinaryleastsquared Wrote:  
I stand by my analysis.
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Quote: (08-07-2017 06:28 AM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

I AGREE WITH LEONARD HE IS WISE AND ALL-KNOWING

The only thing I have in common with an enlightened spiritual guru is a severe lack of money.

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Yes, but since you live in a third world country it goes so much further.
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My dad is so gamma when it comes to political and/or opinion matters.

When he has a strong opinion he feels the need to lecture everyone around about it. When I'm right he would discuss in circles, initially disagreeing, then "explaining" his POV to eventually be the exact same as mine like 5 minutes later.

And when he changes his mind over the course few weeks/months say. He never acknowledges it, like he doesn't even realise he changed his mind and he always thought this way. Doing a complete 180 really. It's almost as if he's insulting my intelligence/memory because obviously I remembered him say the opposite thing before and he's trying to gloss over it and pretend it didn't happen. He doesn't seem malicious so maybe he genuinely he changes his mind and doesn't even know it.

It's so funny and frustrating about it I'm tempted to do a recording of his rants then when he says 2 opposite things without even admitting or backtracking then I can replay them and "call him out", as it were. However, I admit this wouldn't really achieve anything as despite the fact he's generally super rational, his need to have his opinions matter and not be wrong would generally cause him to rationalise things.

I generally try to ignore him but sometimes the things he says are ridiculous enough that as a sigma I feel I have to stir(the latest example between American "hypocrisy" over their wall vs their criticism of the Berlin Wall, so I had to stir that it was obviously different in that one wall kept people out and one kept people in). Otherwise he would rant at my mum over and over with his lecture/ramble, who doesn't care at all in the slightest. Sometimes I feel it's therapy for him to express his opinions like this because I don't believe it's viable for him to do it to Kiwis who aren't his family, as Kiwis just write you off really quick.

This latest incident he rambled on and on for about an hour after I stirred, and thought it was better to do the WSP tactic of smile and nod. I literally don't care about his ramble but I figured I didn't have much of a choice and using Bike Cuck logic, he's gaining more than I'm losing. Ultimately he had his release but I felt it was all a giant waste of time and effort(well, effort on his part mainly) to get all worked up.

The other thing is interesting to note is classic Chinese Nationalism- they always see the evil/wickedness/hypocrisy of the West- especially the US/UK which they feel "humiliated" China- that they see the things which aren't there and attribute wickedness which isn't there. Then they go ahead and claim China has noble intentions for doing things like colonising Africa(while claiming the West is evil and the "proof" being that Africa is still poor).

The extent of projection(the West does X, I would only do X if I was evil, therefore the west is evil) and rationalisation(China is doing X, but it's "justice" for all the evil/humiliation China has gone through etc etc... even if it's not against the people who caused them harm in the first place) is astounding really.
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Glad you've bumped this thread.

Over the last few weeks I've come to learn that a guy can simply be gamma over certain issues that trigger such tendencies while otherwise living a relatively gamma-behavior-free life.

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Aurini will like this:

I've long trying to toss up whether Gamma is a personality type in and of itself, or if the resulting personality was due to - potentially-programmable - childhood psychological damage.

My Gamma Stepfather had a massive emotional breakdown over New Years that ended up with him being hospitalized. As I previously wrote, he was acting very strange before and after Christmas in his pursuit of Would-Be New Mommy.

After his reveal of his pattern of creepy-stalker behaviour with ill women in the process of breaking up with their partner, I had many discussions with my girlfriend about exactly where I could go with him from here in our relationship.

The conclusion I arrived at was that I had to be able to forgive him, because it was obvious WBNM wouldn't be interested when he did make his play, and someone would have to be there to clean up the mess.

So when I got the call from the Hospital, I figured things had gone south, so hurried up there and ran into my sister in the car park. She said she wasn't entirely-sure what happened.

"I'd say he made a play for [WBNM], and then she popped his bubble by refusing him."

She nodded. "He doesn't understand women. Some guys think if you're nice to them it means you're, you know, interested. You're just being nice." (She had many Gamma Stalkers in High School, and one who persisted through most of her twenties).

I sighed. "I bet the words 'I'm sorry if I ever gave you the wrong idea' were used."

"I only see you as a friend."

We steeled ourselves and walked towards the Mental Health wing, and I explained that he'd been playing on our mother's death for sympathy from this woman, and, because of that, he'd created a phantasm of the experience being far worse than it was. I'm not saying the death was easy, or pretty, just that it was, realistic, cruel human suffering. He'd been milking it, which, in his mind, turned it into an exaggerated phantasm: it was now the worst kind of suffering that had ever happened to anyone in the history of existence. Doing this, he'd forget that my mother would make jokes about her hair falling out from Chemo, threaten to haunt us if we gave eulogies, or said "I'm sure [my grandfather] is down there, looking up at us."

So yeah, there was bad moments there, but also, a lot of good moments.

Obviously, he created a bullshit reality, hung his salvation upon a relationship with WBNM, and, when rejected - since no woman, let alone an ill one who already has a husband and a kid wants to take on board an emotionally-weak man - he had nothing left to fall back on.

Hence, loony bin.

Eventually we got to talk to him, and he seemed OK, if highly-medicated. He recognised he was in a bad place and seemed happy that he would be getting help going forward. I noticed he was evasive when actually discussing what had happened. He just said he "went crazy", and said he guessed he hadn't really dealt with my mother's death.

As we sat there, the topic of conversation had moved onto other topics, when as is his Gamma Way, he suddenly leapt back into the conversation from a few minutes earlier.

In an oh-so-casual, faux-apropos of nothing manner, he said "... and I don't know if [WBNM] will ever forgive me."

My Sister and I shot a knowing glance to each other, that said "Yep. She was there. He made a play. Was shot down. Gamma Rage." Later, she said "What do you think he said to her?"

"At least 'Bitch'."

She sighed. "I don't know. I think it would have been more pathetic. He would have begged and cried."

I pictured snot coming out of his nose. Look, it's not that we don't care about him, we just have a realistic understanding of what he is.

Anyway, they put him on a diet and exercise regime, regular anti-depressants and weekly sessions with a psychologist, (unfortunately, female, so I'm hoping he won't fixate on her next). He needed continual care there for a while, but then it got to the stage he could be left alone again, and I didn't see him for a couple of weeks due to some issues Bill and I have been having dealing with a mutual alcoholic friend.

He turned up, unannounced, around dinner time, as he has a habit of doing, a couple of weeks ago when my Sister was visiting. We'd all had a damn busy day on a big project, but I'd thrown some Lamb Shanks in the Slow Cooker about 7 that morning, and my Sister and I were just discussing mashing some potatoes to go with it - Bill said you 'have to have potatoes with lamb shanks' - when my girlfriend said / audibly-winced "Your stepfather is parking out the front."

My sister groaned. "Well, he won't stay for dinner. I'm sure you've heard the Lamb Shanks Rant?"

"Yeah," I said. He has this rehearsed play he rattles off should anyone ever dare to mention Lamb Shanks in his vicinity. I know it by heart by now. They're not real food. On the farm you gave them to the dogs. Why would anyone pay good money for them? Blah gamma blah.

Gammas have a habit of doing this kind of thing on particular topics, not understanding that no-one has asked or cares about their opinion, particularly, when as in this case, you're insulting someone who is talking about cooking them, because, for the rest of the world, fashions change. The tell is that the opinion never changes or takes into account new information. It's more like an unfunny stand up routine they launch into, not understanding you've already heard the non-joke.

He came in, invited himself to stay for dinner, and made no comment when he was presented the Lamb Shanks. He ate them, and obviously enjoyed them, even sucking out the bone marrow.

He didn't constantly try to make himself the center of attention. He let others speak. He could keep up with the flow of conversation rather than steering it back to a couple of minutes ago, where he was more comfortable. He asked my girlfriend how her life was going. He listened to people, instead of waiting for his moment to talk. When he was corrected, he seemed interested in what he didn't know, rather than trying to make out that he already knew it, or sulking. He talked to them, not at them.

After he left, we all sat quietly. My girlfriend spoke first: "Who was that?"

"I'm not sure," my sister said. "Is it the medication?"

Bill - who despises him - said "He's more betterer. Like he's been unfuckwitted."

My sister leant closer to me. "Did you notice he didn't mention [WBNM] once?"

Bill snorted. "It's like whoever dropped him on his head as a kid finally picked him up."

Flash forward to yesterday, my girlfriend was going to help her father and Bill had asked me to mix cement for him all day for him due to his usual cement guy having taken the Cask Wine Train to Dysfunction Junction.

Since it was short notice, and my girlfriend wouldn't be back, I remembered I still had some lamb shanks in the freezer, so took 10 minutes before I left in the morning to toss it all together into the slow cooker. At least it would be a hot meal waiting for us when we returned.

Which we did, dirty and sore. We showered up, and I went to cut up some potatoes when my girlfriend rang saying she was coming home early after all. Since I always prepare extra - people have a habit of dropping in at my place in town - I said I'd throw extra potato on.

Just as I was dishing it out, my Stepdad turned up, and, as tired as we all were, we figured, ok, we can put up with him.

Nope.

Although it didn't stop him shoving it in his mouth, we got the Lamb Shanks Rant. He criticized the cut, saying the bones are so much longer in a true Lamb Shank, like anyone has pans, or ovens, or pots that could possibly fit an untrimmed bone. He suddenly became The Expert On Cooking Lamb Shanks, despite having never cooked them that I've seen, and how much better he would have made the dish than me, because I used tinned chickpeas (in a 10 minute prep meal made on the spur of the moment) and that I didn't use enough Mint, (understanding Bill has reflux, I went easy on it), and despite not even knowing what the dish was.

He talked over everyone, and wouldn't listen.

He suddenly wouldn't shut up about making some kind of Vegetarian Meal. I pointed at my kitchen bookshelf, which holds about 70+ cookbooks from all eras and said, "Take your pick." But no, it now became vitally-important that he discuss his need to cook a vegetarian meal at great length, until I figured "Oh fuck, this is a WBNM thing, isn't it?"

I pointed at the bookshelf. "Any of the post 80's books will have Vegetarian sections".

He was now fixated on chickpeas, and discussing 'chickpea research' on which are supposed to be the most popular based on taste tests. (I tried his suggestion once when he'd done THAT particular rant in the past. I didn't see any detectable difference to the standard 9mm ones I buy that made it worth the extra expense and effort of tracking down these super special exclusive chickpeas, when they're, at best, a filler anyway).

Bill, wanting him to STFU, dropped two Vegetarian cookbooks books from the shelves in front of him, as he continued to obsess over the 'right' vegetarian recipes, despite 'The Complete Vegetarian Cookbook' and '150 Fast Vegetarian Meals' sitting right in front of him.

Gammas gonna Gamma.

Eventually, the motivation behind his vegetarian obsession became clear. WBNM had decided to stay with her kid and husband - whose lack of apparent emotional care obviously-provides her with the kind of obsession-causing tingles my Stepfather could never hope to generate in her.

He now wanted to invite them both over for dinner and cook a meal for them.

I groaned inwardly. Give it the fuck up, dude.

Bill said he was 'going out back for a smoke'.

It got worse. It turns out SHE isn't a vegetarian, the husband is. This is all about proving what a good guy he is to cook a special meal for her husband, thinking that will make her respect his kindness and reward him with sex, instead of thinking he's a massive, subservient pussy to the alpha male.

I don't think there's anything you can cook with Eggplant and Chickpeas that will guarantee that kind of delusional reward.

My girlfriend tried to explain why that wasn't a good idea, and it got weird from there. He said this was about 'caring' for 'a friend', and, turning to me, said I was "too selfish to understand".

As my girlfriend said later, "You visited him every day in hospital last year during his knee surgery, drove him to physio, and did his cooking, cleaning and shopping."

"I bought him a fridge for next to his desk and a spare kettle so he wouldn't have to walk so far in the first few days at home to make coffee."

"You picked up his prescriptions."

"I rubbed cream into his feet each evening for a week, because he was in too much pain to bend that far."

"You nursed him for two weeks in January and didn't leave him alone. It's like he doesn't see."

Of course he doesn't, he's Gamma. If you don't give them what they want in the moment, you're the selfish arsehole who only thinks of themselves.

Things went downhill from there - every sentence became about WBNM - until I eventually had to say to him, "Did you take your tablets today?"

"I forgot it last night before bed, but it doesn't matter."

We made our excuses and said we were going to have an early night - him "No apple crumble?" - and got rid of him, with me thinking I should possibly check in with the doctor in the morning, and maybe I should track down WBNM and, for everyone's sake, tell her to cut off all contact with him.

My girlfriend, after he was gone. "As yummy as they are, promise me you'll never cook Lamb Shanks again."

Bill, was more blunt, "Whenever it's getting near to dinner time, lock the bloody gate, turn off the outside lights and shut all the curtains."

Mustering up all my patience and forgiveness - if they're virtues, i'm about to sprout wings - I rang him the next day, trying to figure out the best way to say something that wouldn't trigger Fixated Gamma Resentment over criticism.

Instead, he surprised me, and said he realised "I was out of control last night," and that he didn't understand until he "took his tablet." He'd learnt that "I can't miss even one."

It's horrific to consider both what he is, and what he could be, and understand one daily pill is all that stands between functional and destructive social behaviour.

Even more intriguingly, it seems you can medicate the Gamma out of a man.
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The Gamma Megathread

What medication is he on? It sounds like a wonder drug
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