[Yves555]

We all know how important is to have game, but the REAL question that interesting me is how powerful it really is, for an example, someone who "mastered" the game can be able to pick up ANY woman he desires? I'm not talking only about beautiful women but about high status,rich,famous women.

If all of those pick up masters are so good with women, so how come we never heard of any average guy dating chicks like jennifer lopez and other stars/famous/high status women?

I noticed that successful and famous (super models,actresses,etc) women always date and marry with RICH guys. So the question is HOW game can set you above them? How mastering it can enchance your pickup skills to be able to get ANY women you really desire?

Maybe the term "Game" is just overrated?

[Rhyme or Reason]

Hey it's one of these guys

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So the question is HOW game can set you above them?

See: the rest of forum. Or the rest of the manosphere for explanation on that. You obviously did not even do the most cursory research on the topic if you're bring that question on our volume.

I know Roosh wants us to go easy on the newbs now and I tend to agree so I'll take your post at least somewhat seriously.

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How mastering it can enchance your pickup skills to be able to get ANY women you really desire?

This betrays a lack of experience in life and with women.

Here's what you should do:

STOP thinking in absolutes.

STOP worrying about externalities over which you have no control.

Try actually running some game then come back and share your experiences. But I can tell you've only read about it and applied next to nothing. So before you come back and start bitching, I want you to try.

[subterfuge]

''Try actually running some game then come back and share your experiences.''

I agree.

Firstly, maybe the OP could explain what he thinks 'running game' actually is though, otherwise we're essentially just spinning our wheels!

I have my own opinions but at least it's based on real life experience.

[Rhyme or Reason]

Here's something else to consider for the OP:

What good does it to you to ruminate about "why we never hear about average guys picking up Jlo and Brittany spears?"

I only see you constructing walls for yourself, the thought process which tells you not to try.

You obviously know game works, or you wouldn't be here asking about it. You owe it to yourself to give it a try.

So rather than think about "does mastering game mean one can get ANY WOMENZ HE DESIRES!?" you should instead focus on "How can game benefit me to get higher quality / quantity of women that I currently am getting?"

Over analysis of the effectiveness of game is the nail in the coffin to so many youngsters trying to get into it, they block their own path to success.

This is why I stress action over analysis, especially when you're new to it.

[Beirut]

Im embarrassed that i know ths but Jennifer Lopez dated/married a few of her backup dancers. Bad example dude.

[philosophical_recovery]

Not only that but why date a "high status" woman? There are tons of younger, hotter girls than j lo or other actresses that can be quite fun and compliant.

Unless you're trying to work that "kept man" angle and have a millionaire starlet keep you in nice digs while banging Instagram models.

[Jungle]

(12-02-2016 04:10 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  

STOP thinking in absolutes.

STOP worrying about externalities over which you have no control.

^ 100%

(12-02-2016 03:58 PM)Yves555 Wrote:  

how come we never heard of any average guy dating chicks like jennifer lopez and other stars/famous/high status women?

What kinda example is that bs, it seems you think vacuous celebs are something we should be aspiring towards, stop reading cosmo mag madame.. because newsflash - ain't no guy with game tryna date such washed up spinsters.

[heavy]

You're coming at it from a pre-enlightenment, pre-individualist, pre-western culture view of the world.

The rich high status guys usually came from normal average guy beginnings.

(12-02-2016 03:58 PM)Yves555 Wrote:  

If all of those pick up masters are so good with women, so how come we never heard of any average guy dating chicks like jennifer lopez and other stars/famous/high status women?

You've seen average guys dating incredibly hot babes. You just don't see them as average guys when they're with hot babes (hot famous high status etc).

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I noticed that successful and famous (super models,actresses,etc) women always date and marry with RICH guys. So the question is HOW game can set you above them? How mastering it can enchance your pickup skills to be able to get ANY women you really desire?

Many became rich because of game (charm. charisma. etc. game)

Pre-enlightenment, people thought Richard The Lionheart actually had a different heart than laymen. Peasants weren't just poor laborers. Their entire identity was as a peasant, born and raised and will die a peasant.
What the enlightenment did, through philosophy and science, was offer an individualist perspective. You could be born a peasant and move up, slide up and down the socio-economic scale.

[PapayaTapper]

Real men don't find a woman's value in how rich, high status, or famous the woman is. Edit: You cant slide your meat puppet in any of those things

[subterfuge]

Well, game isn't a jedi mind trick! (unfortunately ) If she thinks you are not very good looking, game won't help you much. If she thinks you're hot, having absolutely zero game would probably make her walk away. It's just trying to be charismatic and being able to hold a conversation at the end of the day.

[Drix]

Awesome thread. Your first post with a great beginning, first, You should Master the game and after that try to bang all the celebrities, then return and publish your results and maybe some naked photos of the famous,rich,high status girls.

Answer to your questions:

1) No. Even Masters fails. No all the girls are for you.
2) who knows? Maybe some average guys banged celebrities and you don't know. About yor Puas, don't believe in everything you see in Youtube.
3)become richer than them?
4) No
5)No. Game open my eyes and is helpig me to become a better man, the same for most of members. The only overrated thing is YOUR THREAD.

[Deepdiver]

Ok finished work grabbed silver line to the ICA inst of crazy art 10th anv party ... talent all over the place D2 running grey haired most interesting man in the world game ... got photo booth pics with a 28 & 29 yo blonde and brunette pre wall banglers. Blonde was a solid 8 eyelashes braider in a cfmnow red dress had fun... laid the 2 million view red pill neoman site meme of the month is to find a nordic celtic teutonic (she said Aryan) princess for a Trump baby boom... invited both to Empire for soocheee ... one was a bartender with a promise so I said I only offer once and bye-eeee ... no wait yet off I went and I had a great gnosh at empire and next... point is even gray haired GAME IS LIFE... SWAG UR SWAGGAH!

[Suits]

(12-02-2016 03:58 PM)Yves555 Wrote:  

We all know how important is to have game, but the REAL question that interesting me is how powerful it really is, for an example, someone who "mastered" the game can be able to pick up ANY woman he desires? I'm not talking only about beautiful women but about high status,rich,famous women.

If all of those pick up masters are so good with women, so how come we never heard of any average guy dating chicks like jennifer lopez and other stars/famous/high status women?

I noticed that successful and famous (super models,actresses,etc) women always date and marry with RICH guys. So the question is HOW game can set you above them? How mastering it can enchance your pickup skills to be able to get ANY women you really desire?

Maybe the term "Game" is just overrated?

(11-29-2016 09:47 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

We're being too hard on newbies

The feedback I'm getting is that newbies are frightened to make their first post because of the "OP is a faggot" hazing that goes on.

[Mufasa]

(12-02-2016 10:53 PM)Suits Wrote:  

(12-02-2016 03:58 PM)Yves555 Wrote:  

We all know how important is to have game, but the REAL question that interesting me is how powerful it really is, for an example, someone who "mastered" the game can be able to pick up ANY woman he desires? I'm not talking only about beautiful women but about high status,rich,famous women.

If all of those pick up masters are so good with women, so how come we never heard of any average guy dating chicks like jennifer lopez and other stars/famous/high status women?

I noticed that successful and famous (super models,actresses,etc) women always date and marry with RICH guys. So the question is HOW game can set you above them? How mastering it can enchance your pickup skills to be able to get ANY women you really desire?

Maybe the term "Game" is just overrated?

(11-29-2016 09:47 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

We're being too hard on newbies

The feedback I'm getting is that newbies are frightened to make their first post because of the "OP is a faggot" hazing that goes on.

choked on my tequila reading this. doesnt feel too good.

(11-29-2016 09:47 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

We're being too hard on newbies

The feedback I'm getting is that newbies are frightened to make their first post because of the "OP is a faggot" hazing that goes on.

That is hilarious
don't like being a faggot don't be a faggot lol.
The rules are there for a reason. real talk most newbie posts can be solved with a simple search. if anything they should be given warnings for not reading the rules. I sure as hell was...

[XXL]

Yves555 Wrote:

... the REAL question that interesting me is how powerful it really is, for an example, someone who "mastered" the game can be able to pick up ANY woman he desires? I'm not talking only about beautiful women but about high status,rich,famous women.

If all of those pick up masters are so good with women, so how come we never heard of any average guy dating chicks like jennifer lopez and other stars/famous/high status women?"

Why don't you go back to school and...




Game is not some magic skill that can cast as spell on any girl you want. There's much more to it to getting a girl that you want. It's just common sense dude, you're asking before thinking.

You can have a shot with girl only if you have free access to that girl. Then game is on. If you don't have an access you can't do shit. Simple as that.

This is also why the best way to get the hottest girls is by networking and being introduced to them or her friends. It's way tougher and much more time consuming to break through the barriers and climb social ladders and hierarchies on your own trying to get to her in straight line as an outsider.

But in the end love conquers all

[subterfuge]

(12-03-2016 08:39 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Game is not some magic skill that can cast as spell on any girl you want.

Exactly. But in defense of some of the newer members, they might think that way since some people do write in a way that almost implies that game is some sort of magic as opposed to pretty much just being socially normal! There aren't magic sentences that you can say to make a girl who thinks you are physically unattractive want to sleep with you. There aren't really any secrets.

If you were to show a regular, normal, social guy who has never heard of 'pickup' a video of someone 'running game' he would ask himself why there needs to forums and books about it, and why it needs to be taught, since the PUA is simply having a conversation with a girl, trying to be 'fun' and interesting etc but calls it 'gaming'. You could almost say that everybody has 'game' with the exception of those who have certain mental health issues that badly effect their ability to socilalise

[Vincent Chase]

This question is too amateur even for the newbie forum.