Ive been working on game and myself a lot lately. Eating healthier, working out, dressing nicer and putting myself into situations outside of my comfort zone.
I'm an extroverted dude, I used to think I was an introvert or strong silent type but I definitely get my energy from other people but I only get that energy when people are vibing off of me. If they aren't my energy nosedives and I become very quiet and my state gets all out of whack. I have a very hard time "toning" it down when I'm on and not in my head. I become this whirlwind of energy with NO direction, but there's a problem with that because it's a whirlwind with no direction or control. I talk too much when I get into this state, not so much about myself but stupid things (for lack of a better term I like to always put my 0.02 in, or have something to say)
I'm very much a "joker", I like to prank and overall fuck with people, around other dudes I pull this personality trait back but around women I'm an "asshole" but not in a good way. I usually end up insulting the girl, or say some dumb shit that makes her roll her eyes and leave. I have a very hard time reeling this personality trait in and when I try to reel it in I become this super boring guy. There doesn't seem to be a "middle ground".
I'll give you an example, I was at a bar with some friends. The bartender was friendly with our group, I had to leave early so I walked to the register to the pay the bill taking out a twenty, she reaches her hand out to take the twenty and I pull mine back "faking her out". It seems like a dick move now, but at the time I thought it was funny. That's an example of what I mean by "jokester/pranker".
Another thing I've done is lets say a chick asked me if I'm in school I'll reply no I'm just a lowlife bum who hangs around the bars and hits on attractive women which is meant as a sarcastic reply but they usually just go "oh" or something else then walk away. Maybe my delivery is off?
I guess another aspect could be the incongruence with my personality and my "seduction", I may talk like an asshole or whatever you want to call it but then when I'm alone with a chick I have a very hard time escalating, I care about what other people think of me.
I've studied body language to a degree but I have a very hard time noticing body language, an incredibly hard time because I'm usually to interested in myself. That's the same with looking people in the eyes, I'm awful at that I always get caught up in the interaction and forget to look the person into the eyes. I understand that most communication is done through the non-verbal but I have a hard time applying this into my life. Like I said, I like to talk a lot especially if people let me and respond positively to my talkativeness.
The only time I've seduced a women who I hadn't met online, was at a hostel. She was sitting on her bed which was next to me, I chatted a little with her about mundane crap and looked right through her eyes. I sort of saw them "glaze" over which in my head meant she was getting turned on. I brought up with her that I was going to prank this group of girls from Australia by moving their beds around, she didn't believe I was going to do it but she was game. We moved the beds, and afterwords I had her sit down on my bed next to me and well you know the rest. How can I translate this game over to day game or even night game when my true personality is an over talkative extrovert.
My problem is, I know my game is weak and I have an idea whats wrong but I don't know how to fix my problems. I've tried to tinker but it hasn't really gotten me anywhere.
Is anyone here similar to me in that you like to fuck with people. play pranks and joke around?
Is anyone also an over talkative extrovert? How do you game? How do you tone it down?
Lastly, I understand this is a relatively long post and for the amount of time I have been with the forum I haven't contributed much. I'd like to contribute however I feel I really should just listen because I haven't had much success with women. There's not a lot of value I can offer.
Thanks for reading
element.
I'm an extroverted dude, I used to think I was an introvert or strong silent type but I definitely get my energy from other people but I only get that energy when people are vibing off of me. If they aren't my energy nosedives and I become very quiet and my state gets all out of whack. I have a very hard time "toning" it down when I'm on and not in my head. I become this whirlwind of energy with NO direction, but there's a problem with that because it's a whirlwind with no direction or control. I talk too much when I get into this state, not so much about myself but stupid things (for lack of a better term I like to always put my 0.02 in, or have something to say)
I'm very much a "joker", I like to prank and overall fuck with people, around other dudes I pull this personality trait back but around women I'm an "asshole" but not in a good way. I usually end up insulting the girl, or say some dumb shit that makes her roll her eyes and leave. I have a very hard time reeling this personality trait in and when I try to reel it in I become this super boring guy. There doesn't seem to be a "middle ground".
I'll give you an example, I was at a bar with some friends. The bartender was friendly with our group, I had to leave early so I walked to the register to the pay the bill taking out a twenty, she reaches her hand out to take the twenty and I pull mine back "faking her out". It seems like a dick move now, but at the time I thought it was funny. That's an example of what I mean by "jokester/pranker".
Another thing I've done is lets say a chick asked me if I'm in school I'll reply no I'm just a lowlife bum who hangs around the bars and hits on attractive women which is meant as a sarcastic reply but they usually just go "oh" or something else then walk away. Maybe my delivery is off?
I guess another aspect could be the incongruence with my personality and my "seduction", I may talk like an asshole or whatever you want to call it but then when I'm alone with a chick I have a very hard time escalating, I care about what other people think of me.
I've studied body language to a degree but I have a very hard time noticing body language, an incredibly hard time because I'm usually to interested in myself. That's the same with looking people in the eyes, I'm awful at that I always get caught up in the interaction and forget to look the person into the eyes. I understand that most communication is done through the non-verbal but I have a hard time applying this into my life. Like I said, I like to talk a lot especially if people let me and respond positively to my talkativeness.
The only time I've seduced a women who I hadn't met online, was at a hostel. She was sitting on her bed which was next to me, I chatted a little with her about mundane crap and looked right through her eyes. I sort of saw them "glaze" over which in my head meant she was getting turned on. I brought up with her that I was going to prank this group of girls from Australia by moving their beds around, she didn't believe I was going to do it but she was game. We moved the beds, and afterwords I had her sit down on my bed next to me and well you know the rest. How can I translate this game over to day game or even night game when my true personality is an over talkative extrovert.
My problem is, I know my game is weak and I have an idea whats wrong but I don't know how to fix my problems. I've tried to tinker but it hasn't really gotten me anywhere.
Is anyone here similar to me in that you like to fuck with people. play pranks and joke around?
Is anyone also an over talkative extrovert? How do you game? How do you tone it down?
Lastly, I understand this is a relatively long post and for the amount of time I have been with the forum I haven't contributed much. I'd like to contribute however I feel I really should just listen because I haven't had much success with women. There's not a lot of value I can offer.
Thanks for reading
element.