[jariel]

(06-09-2015 09:12 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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A while back, Roosh sent out a tweet or made a comment here that said that, in the near future, American men will need to be straight-up famous to get some quality pussy. Those words may prove prophetic.

I wrote this five years ago:

http://www.rooshv.com/the-future-of-game

That post is a must-read, the only thing I feel that could be added is the requirement that most men will have to literally pay to fuck average and above-average pussy.

Where I live, the strip clubs are always packed and escorts are all over the place-- that's not even counting the number of "regular" bitches who have become soft pros --that tells me that a lot of men are resigning themselves to the fact that if they want to fuck women they could actually stand to look at afterwards, they will have to put on a jersey that says "Simp" or "John" on the back.

[Travesty]

(06-15-2015 11:23 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

I had an older couple (relatives) tell me the following just the other day... In italics:

These girls nowadays are really without *quality* options. Go to the movie theatres on a Friday night and you will see a bunch of single girls out by themselves without guys to accompany them. Often times you see a girl with her boyfriend and another girl that is also cute as the third wheel. What happened to the days of traditionally taking girls out to the movie theatre for a date?

Sure this isn't a perfect statement. But it goes to show a lot of guys are eliminating themselves from the game. It's too easy to just skip out on it. Think about what most 18-25 year old guys do on friday and saturday nights: beer with the bros and/or video games. Porn before bed. (I see nothing wrong for the most part with these things, AS LONG as it's not predominant behaviour).

Although there are times you see a couple where the guy is clearly out of her league (the case of an ugly or overweight girl with an otherwise normal guy), there are many times you see a girl that has put in a lot of effort into looking her best, with a guy that is dressed poorly with minimal effort on his appearance.


Go to a bar/club district on a friday or saturday night and you will see TONS of cute, young girls.

I don't believe this and don't see this on a day to day and I look for it. The vast majority of mixed groups have a few couples with 4 guy stragglers and one or two semi-cute girls that 3 of the 4 guys are competing for.

Most couples the guy is slightly better looking than the girl, what makes it uneven is that they are the same age. If the girl was 5-10 years younger than the guy in the average couple I see I'd say things are even, they aren't. In fact the girl may even be a year or two older than the guy in many cases which is even worse.

I would say 80% of the 7+ girls I approach have the boyfriend excuse and I genuinely believe them because when I see these girls walking about they aren't looking for any male attention they seem very satiated already. They exhibit zero female thirst.

I never see this unicorn, bored, third wheel girl being talked about. I also never see a sloppily dressed guy with a good looking girl, bad boy-esque instead of GQ maybe, but he still has his stuff together in an attractive way.

As for clubs I see more and more often closed off social groups going out for an occasion and not looking to socialize. If I find 2 or 3 girls out actually looking around the bar or club to mingle I almost pinch myself.

I have approached 600+ girls in the last 2 years. Out of those 1 is what I would consider, thin, feminine, well-dressed, cool, and genuinely available for a real relationship. Chew on that. I wish I was joking or trying to be over-the-top. It actually hit me kind of hard when I thought about it a few weeks ago.

I spend much more of time on my side business and Spanish than gaming after realizing this fact. LINUX posted his reactions coming back to Denver clubs after being in Colombia. My feeling has been the same with never having been to Colombia for the last 6 months or so.

Take my words though as a guy that is starting to feel a little older with more interest in LTR's and has zero interest in banging 6's anymore. Ever.

[CH-Toronto]

(06-15-2015 03:18 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

*words*

Gotta agree with a lot being said here. I'm from Toronto along with Nascimento, and while there is SOME quality- it's few and far between.

You will see plenty of girl/4 orbiters groups, and most couples I've seen on the street -- the guy is CLEARLY dating below him.

Samseau is on point though

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I don't think my game is particularly good and I've never claimed so. However, most guys who kill it in tough environments like Toronto absolutely avoid complaining or ruminating on the degradation of nightlife or how women are becoming worse.

You CAN'T dwell on the bad and you must be in a positive mindset when going out.

[Travesty]

^ I agree with this. When I go out to approach I am only thinking about getting laid (if I was thinking about forming a connection I felt over conversation (not her perceived connection) I would barely ever get laid lol). I only concentrate on number of quality approaches. I do my warm up before going out routine have a drink or two and get ready to chase. You can do well. I just find even if I am doing well - the only thing I am getting out of I'd say 4 of the 5 girls I pick up is just sex. That's it.

[Aenigmarius]

(06-15-2015 03:11 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 09:12 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

A while back, Roosh sent out a tweet or made a comment here that said that, in the near future, American men will need to be straight-up famous to get some quality pussy. Those words may prove prophetic.

I wrote this five years ago:

http://www.rooshv.com/the-future-of-game

That post is a must-read, the only thing I feel that could be added is the requirement that most men will have to literally pay to fuck average and above-average pussy.

Where I live, the strip clubs are always packed and escorts are all over the place-- that's not even counting the number of "regular" bitches who have become soft pros --that tells me that a lot of men are resigning themselves to the fact that if they want to fuck women they could actually stand to look at afterwards, they will have to put on a jersey that says "Simp" or "John" on the back.

From the article:

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Therefore the beta men who didn’t resort to homosexuality or sex dolls will dabble in mail order brides to fulfill their evolutionary destiny.

This may sound trite, but the sexbot is legitimately going to alter human society. The technology (hardware and software) will progress to a point where the AFC will be able to pretty much get all of his sexual and emotional needs met by a robot with a fleshlight between her legs and a program that continually gives him positive reinforcement.

There will be a social stigma attached to it for a while, but as the state of male/female relations continues to deteriorate, eventually having an android girlfriend will suffice for significant amounts of AFCs.

Consider the huge ham-beasts and mega-bitches that guys are willing to date now, just so they have a girlfriend and the (remote) possibility of sex (maybe) on special occasions. Consider the levels of cheating, cuckholding, verbal abuse, emasculation, etc., that the AFC is willing to take from a woman. Think about all the lies he tells himself, the delusions he lives in, maintaining this alternate vision of his perfect unicorn one-itis that is nowhere near the sloppy, skanky shrew he is actually dating (or just chasing and making stupid internet videos for).

The same internal mechanism that allows the AFC to do all that will latch onto a halfway life-like sexbot in an instant. When all he deals with are entitled, bitchy hog-princesses in his day-to-day world, and when he has never had a taste of the real thing in his entire life... he'll be more than glad to come home to a sexbot programmed to give him a backrub and tell him how awesome he is before blowing him while he plays World of Warcraft.

Sexbots will change the future of human dynamics. Believe that.

[CleanSlate]

(06-15-2015 03:38 PM)Aenigmarius Wrote:  

Sexbots will change the future of human dynamics. Believe that.

[Nascimento]

(06-15-2015 03:18 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

I have approached 600+ girls in the last 2 years. Out of those 1 is what I would consider, thin, feminine, well-dressed, cool, and genuinely available for a real relationship. Chew on that. I wish I was joking or trying to be over-the-top. It actually hit me kind of hard when I thought about it a few weeks ago.

Out of 600 girls you've met you only found one you really liked?

No offense to your standards, to each their own; but your measures are ones I would not want to have.

[Travesty]

^ I met dozens, like I said though most girls that have this are locked down - others I find out after dates have way too many slut tells. I said I am starting to look at mini-LTR, LTR material. So I am out of the banging borderline 6's. And for the record I would say any girls in the 10 thread are way above my Game right now, I am just talking about cute, thin, well dressed, cool, ready for a real connection (7).

6's for the record are easy as hell, probably easier than ever.

For a sample I was just out on my lunch walk I crossed a young Asian couple, guy was jacked with a fresh hair cut, girl was cute but nothing special. Hair up no make up, sweat pants, flip flops, no tits, no ass, no hips, not trying other than not eating too much.

Another couple was on a lawn. Guy was jacked and good looking male 7.5-8.0. Girl was a frumpy low 6. At least she was doting over him and not the other way around.

Next up was a young redhead walking up at me from a distance. Of course she has her earbuds in, flip flops, sweat shirt, hair up, no make up on. Could easily be a 7.5-8.0, instead relies on her facial beauty to offset the extra 20 lbs that she is lucky enough to have evenly distributed throughout her body so it only looks a little sloppy. Her empty stare and the fact if she just put in a tiny bit of effort could bump herself up a point or more stopped me from approaching.

I didn't want to mention the 2 moridly obese women I saw as well vs. zero overweight men, America has its quotas though.

America is turning into Australia Junior.

Australia will turn into India except the guys will all be jacked, but a quality girl will be just as hard to get.

I wish I was dreaming I am not, I notice and take care to notice my environment every time I am out and ready to approach. I still try to make as many quality approaches as I can, and I can still do very well with effort, the effort is increasing though.

I'm not giving in I want my approaches to get into the thousands - either that or I find a gem beforehand. To counteract all this I am going to spend much more time on social circle game.

[Nascimento]

I do agree with you on aiming higher. Post-sex with a 6 is just a lame feeling. However with a higher-quality girl it's a different story.

[Samseau]

(06-15-2015 03:11 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(06-09-2015 09:12 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

A while back, Roosh sent out a tweet or made a comment here that said that, in the near future, American men will need to be straight-up famous to get some quality pussy. Those words may prove prophetic.

I wrote this five years ago:

http://www.rooshv.com/the-future-of-game

That post is a must-read, the only thing I feel that could be added is the requirement that most men will have to literally pay to fuck average and above-average pussy.

Where I live, the strip clubs are always packed and escorts are all over the place-- that's not even counting the number of "regular" bitches who have become soft pros --that tells me that a lot of men are resigning themselves to the fact that if they want to fuck women they could actually stand to look at afterwards, they will have to put on a jersey that says "Simp" or "John" on the back.

Yeah, the more I think about it the more I realize the end-game of the sexual revolution is a society of extremely low-birthrates, a lopsided amount of women relative to men, and the remaining hot women cashing in once they realize their true value.

[BlurredSevens]

Did you guys know that 90% of startup companies fail?

Top causes: running out of money, bad market fit, bad product, inexperienced founders, and, of course: getting outcompeted.

I see the sexual market in the exact same light.

But you know what's different?

In business, failed companies never blame the market. They blame themselves, or they otherwise blame variables that were within their own control.

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However, in the game, and on RVF, I see guys complain constantly about the "decline of western civilization" and shit like that.

I think the sexual market is exactly the same as it's always been: the guy with the biggest dick, or the best body, or the most money, or the highest status is going to fuck the most girls.

You can debate nuances all day long, but that's the bottom line.

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In fact, if anything, thanks to technology, the sexual market is probably operating more efficiently than it has in the past. So, the truth hurts, and I don't think many guys want to accept the fact that they've been rejected not just by a few girls, but by the entire market.

If you're average, well then I'm sorry, but it sucks to be you. Either don't be average, or go pick a different hobby.

Just like in business: there are a few winners, and a whole lot of losers.

Not everyone gets to be a millionaire, and not everybody gets to fuck lots of women.

It's the sign of a strong market, not one that is failing.

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It takes courage to go out there and play the game, but at some point, you have got to cut your losses and put that energy elsewhere.

If you're doing poorly, then that's the market telling you your offering is weak. You're brining weak product, you're not calibrated to market demand, your game is whack, you're inexperienced, or it's simply that other guys are beating you.

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The RVF is a place where guys can learn to become the best version of themselves. Unfortunately, most of the discussion here is about what's wrong with women and culture. It's a perverse mentality and it does a lot of harm to young players that have real potential, and it's a pity party for everyone else.

Just look at the "Everything Else" section. It's almost entirely negativity.

The Travel Forum is the same. There is zero discussion about "what is the most beautiful/remote/adventurous/exotic place on earth?" Which, upon traveling to, would actually make men more interesting and appealing to women.

Instead, guys are asking "which country/city/location has the most sluts?"

Guys want to travel to a place where their 1998 Nokia Flip Phone is still hot shit. They don't want to have to compete with the iPhone 6.

Most men simply don't have what it takes, and the rest aren't willing to put in the effort.

So, in my mind, the plight of the "Average Frustrated Chump" is a self-perpetuating condition. If it weren't, we'd be seeing much different discussions and attitudes here on the forum.

[Ziltoid]

So guys who travel/expat to countries with slimmer and sweeter women are just weaklings who don't want to compete for the ever shrinking number of quality women in their home country?

Interesting perspective.

[Travesty]

I agree with B7's 100%. If you can kill it in America or another Anglo nation meaning banging 7+ non stop you are top of the food chain anywhere.

Look at how many girls you've had to message, how many girls Gio has to had approach (thousands), how many nights Distant Light went out (70 in a row), how much vodka has CMcQueen drank or GManifesto.

Yes you can get there, you need to question if that is where you want to spend your time, that's all. I am still in the Game I just have a realistic outlook on the investment.

[BlurredSevens]

(06-15-2015 10:49 PM)Ziltoid Wrote:  

So guys who travel/expat to countries with slimmer and sweeter women are just weaklings who don't want to compete for the ever shrinking number of quality women in their home country?

Interesting perspective.

A lot of them are, yeah.

Or they're simply incapable or reluctant to compete in the first place. Or they view foreigners through rose colored glasses.

The guys who travel abroad and fuck lots of women, are always the same guys who fuck lots of women in their home country.

If you can find an example of a sexless chump who travels abroad and bangs dimes, I'd love to read his story.

My guess is that such a story only exists in fantasy.

[Travesty]

And I say to any newbies in Anglo countries reading this or lurker newbies...

Keep working at it, game no matter will do great things. As my Game grows and I keep going to the gym and getting stronger ... I end up talking less, being more present, and less worried about anything. I am seeing more and more people defer to me off the bat without me saying much. I worry less about myself knowing that I am on track and start wanting to look out for others such as family members. It is a great gift especially in this fast pace disconnected world.

My advice is to keep upping your standards and measure your success in the small everyday victories.

[depravity]

So now what.

[Samseau]

(06-15-2015 10:45 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

However, in the game, and on RVF, I see guys complain constantly about the "decline of western civilization" and shit like that.

I think the sexual market is exactly the same as it's always been: the guy with the biggest dick, or the best body, or the most money, or the highest status is going to fuck the most girls.

You can debate nuances all day long, but that's the bottom line.

Except none of what you said is true.

Study your history and you will see: at the start of new civilizations the men are feared by the women, the men have their pick of the women, and birthrates are high.

Towards the end of civilizations you get the opposite: women are feared by the men, the women have their pick of the men, and birthrates are low.

By the way, to continue your startup analogy: what we're doing is a macro-market analysis.

If people are constantly talking about it, that's because they are living it and want to know what to do. I can't blame them. As for myself, I am just a scholar who pursues knowledge independently of its immediate effect on my life.

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In fact, if anything, thanks to technology, the sexual market is probably operating more efficiently than it has in the past. So, the truth hurts, and I don't think many guys want to accept the fact that they've been rejected not just by a few girls, but by the entire market.

If you're average, well then I'm sorry, but it sucks to be you. Either don't be average, or go pick a different hobby.

Just like in business: there are a few winners, and a whole lot of losers.

Not everyone gets to be a millionaire, and not everybody gets to fuck lots of women.

It's the sign of a strong market, not one that is failing.

A dying civilization is the sign of a strong market?

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It takes courage to go out there and play the game, but at some point, you have got to cut your losses and put that energy elsewhere.

If you're doing poorly, then that's the market telling you your offering is weak. You're brining weak product, you're not calibrated to market demand, your game is whack, you're inexperienced, or it's simply that other guys are beating you.

Agreed. Hence MGTOW. Of course every guy should give the game a good college try before throwing in the towel. There's no shame in defeat as long as you give it your all.

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The RVF is a place where guys can learn to become the best version of themselves. Unfortunately, most of the discussion here is about what's wrong with women and culture. It's a perverse mentality and it does a lot of harm to young players that have real potential, and it's a pity party for everyone else.

Just look at the "Everything Else" section. It's almost entirely negativity.

I don't see the negativity you do. I think you're reading into the text too much. Assume people are speaking with positive tones, and the negativity goes away.

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The Travel Forum is the same. There is zero discussion about "what is the most beautiful/remote/adventurous/exotic place on earth?" Which, upon traveling to, would actually make men more interesting and appealing to women.

Instead, guys are asking "which country/city/location has the most sluts?"

Guys want to travel to a place where their 1998 Nokia Flip Phone is still hot shit. They don't want to have to compete with the iPhone 6.

Most men simply don't have what it takes, and the rest aren't willing to put in the effort.

Almost certainly true. What else do you expect? Everyone to contribute equal value? 80% of the value on this forum comes from 20% of the members.

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So, in my mind, the plight of the "Average Frustrated Chump" is a self-perpetuating condition. If it weren't, we'd be seeing much different discussions and attitudes here on the forum.

Of course it is. Welcome to the good fight - trying to get men to wake up via the internet since 2008.

[CleanSlate]

I try to stay out of the negativty here, but I don't quite understand the market efficiency analogy when it comes to the sexual market here. I mean, I get the supply and demand concept, but the part that I don't get is why would so many high value men compete for low value women with tattoos, slut tells, and extra weight. It's the whole mismatched value that I don't get.

(06-15-2015 11:09 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  

The guys who travel abroad and fuck lots of women, are always the same guys who fuck lots of women in their home country.

If you can find an example of a sexless chump who travels abroad and bangs dimes, I'd love to read his story.

My guess is that such a story only exists in fantasy.

Ummm... *raises hand*

My notch count was 23 before I went to the Philippines. My best year? I had 5 notches. Given that I was single for 10 calendar years from when I lost my virginity, that's only 2.3 girls a year... some of you guys get 2.3 girls in 2 weeks. Plus, I hardly got any sex while I was married.

I would think that's pretty close to sexless chump territory. Yet, I go to SEA and light it up there. I don't know, either I just don't jive with Western women or I'm not motivated enough to game them here.

[BrazilianCocaine]

Great that there are so many different perspectives here. I have to agree that an AFC can go to certain places and get laid fairly easily. I know a fat kid who is probably a solid 5/10 but could be a 7/10 if he lost weight got lean muscle and shaved his ridiculous looking afro. He probably has some jaw definition underneath that fat. But he went to Las Vegas as-is and got plenty of foreign chicks and even some standard Anglo American girls.

More and more guys are looking at the time investment and money and saying....I can go on a month long vacation to DR or Brazil and get sex from 100 Women or I could stay here in the states spend 10x the money getting sex from just 10 Women in the whole year.

A lot of these guys come back with greater confidence and their internal game actually improves leading to more lays state side, their standards are so high they don't even care anymore about not getting a 6's number in the club here. They have abundance mentality and no matter how it was achieved (some may consider it "cheating" on here) if it works - It works.

For me personally I've never been fully invested into the game regarding Western Women. I haven't been attracted to White Women since I was 14. Maybe it was just a phase. People will say game is the same no matter the race or origin of the Woman but I have to disagree. It depends on many factors and her ethnicity and culture is a big differentiatior (along with yours).

[Nascimento]

B7

The problem is that it takes much more work than most realize.

I've put in extraordinary amounts ever since I first started almost 3 years ago now and although I've had plenty to show for it, I'm still definitely a beginner.

[Nascimento]

Samseau, you make good points.

The environment is not the best.

But of course, we choose not to accept those conditions as our own. Which makes it much, much harder for us to get what we want, but it is doable, as it's been shown time and time again.

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I don't see the negativity you do. I think you're reading into the text too much. Assume people are speaking with positive tones, and the negativity goes away.

You're an exception. I've noticed the tone of your posts. You speak honestly about the cards we have been dealt with. But, you're not pessimistic about it. You still go out and do your dance game I'm sure. Approach and meet new girls and what not.

Most of those guys who speak with negativity aren't actually doing anything to improve themselves or get what they want. There's also a lot of ingenuity. I've observed this but this is largely my opinion. This point ties to the 80/20 reference you made. I'm glad there are still quality minds sharing their knowledge here on the forum.

[StrikeBack]

(06-15-2015 10:49 PM)Ziltoid Wrote:  

So guys who travel/expat to countries with slimmer and sweeter women are just weaklings who don't want to compete for the ever shrinking number of quality women in their home country?

Interesting perspective.

On that...

I actually did better, notch count wise, in a month-ish travelling in America last year than I did in Australia for the entire year. Granted, most of that time was spent in NYC...

I have no doubt I'd kill it in other regions of the world with better quality women than my home city in the land down under.

While some of you may enjoy the Game as a sport or computer game (the harder it is, the more fun), I think many of us would rather spend our time and effort in other pursuits. That would explain the different view points here.

I'm not bringing a flip phone into a market with iPhone 6 and Samsung Galaxy S6. This is more like, why should I pay ripoff prices for a flip phone here while other countries are selling iPhone 6s and the likes for less?

Just to make it clear, this is macro-market analysis.

We men, even the high value Red Pill ones with Game, have it all backwards. We simply can't see that the more we improve ourselves, the worse (overall) the women here are getting. It's us men competing for the ever shrinking pool of quality (can even substitute thin for quality, if you just want raw hard data from the obesity/overweight population figures) women. Meanwhile, all the game-unaware lower value guys in other countries are rolling in an abundance of thinner, sexier, more feminine women, simply because their women are competing for the shrinking pool of quality men.

I see the same stuff as Travesty444 said above. I don't see an abundance of girls going out in groups hoping to meet guys, I see closed social groups who don't want to meet anyone else. Hell they often spend more time on smart phones than talking to their own group of friends. I don't see cute girls as third wheels at the movies (was just there with some mates watching Jurassic World, and I also live near a local artsy cinema), I just see couples, often guy better looking than girl.

I'd like to go to places where Nascimiento's older relatives hang out for Gaming, because that's pussy paradise compared to here. But I have a feeling they might have exaggerated things a little bit... and I think I'd rather trust reports from guys here who are out gaming actively, than older people who observe occasionally from the side line not getting the full picture.

[CleanSlate]

StrikeBack's post puts it perfectly. That was exactly what I was trying to say.

I especially love the flip phone vs smartphone analogy the way he put it.

Rather than working so hard to improve my game just to get 6s and 7s here, I rather focus on getting my businesses off the ground and taking in passive streams of income. With that, I can improve my marketability and salesmanship while going to places where I am appreciated more and avoiding places where I am not appreciated as much.

Just like companies go to where their best markets are instead of trying to sell to the wrong markets.

[BrazilianCocaine]

(06-16-2015 09:05 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

While some of you may enjoy the Game as a sport or computer game (the harder it is, the more fun), I think many of us would rather spend our time and effort in other pursuits. That would explain the different view points here.

I'm not bringing a flip phone into a market with iPhone 6 and Samsung Galaxy S6. This is more like, why should I pay ripoff prices for a flip phone here while other countries are selling iPhone 6s and the likes for less?

Just to make it clear, this is macro-market analysis.

Bingo

I am fully aligned with this sentiment

[Nascimento]

I was downtown Toronto today with a buddy, we had some work to do but we also had plenty of free time. Walked around plenty outside in the core since it was a nice day out.

From mere observation, I see plenty of everything. Cute girls, ugly girls, well-dressed girls, poorly-dressed girls, fat girls, thin girls... you name it.

From the couples, I also see a lot of variance. Good looking guy/good looking girl (most common). Good looking guy/below average girl is indeed more common than average guy/cute girl.

I'm just starting to ignore what doesn't benefit me. Rather, I see it, but I choose not to think about it too much. See Saladin's earlier posts in this thread.

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I went to a currency exchange place this afternoon. Rude woman served me. Oh well.

I went to another place because the first one didn't have what I was looking for. The guy was also rude, what is it with these people?

The third one I went to I was helped by a very chatty blonde in her late 20's. She's had better years, but she is still good looking. Went the extra mile with conversation, asked plenty about where I am going, asked where I'm from, we talked for another minute after I had everything I needed. Meanwhile, the whole time I could see that her coworker, a thin, cute-faced Asian girl somewhere in her 20's, couldn't keep her eyes off me.

I received a text message last night from a girl I gave my phone number out to after I approached her on the street during the day. In short, I gave her my number and told her to text me when she finally got a phone to replace her broken one. This happened 3 weeks ago. She texted me last night with a smiley face and some light-hearted comments. I texted her back, no reply since, and it's been more than 24h.

I remember approaching a girl the last night out who looked at me with a disgusted face and told me to shoo with an 'Ew' expression. She was cute, but nothing special.

Back to today, I went to the movie theatres with my buddy to watch the Jurassic movie. We got discounts from the enthusiastic girl at the service counter, I convinced her to allow me to use my points for not only myself, but also for my buddy. We got in VIP for a total of $13 between the two of us when regular price is $14.99 each for VIP on a tuesday. She wasn't particularly attractive, but she was nice.

Leaving the theatre, I saw a lean dude that could have dressed better with a better than average looking face with a 180+ lbs woman with an ugly tattoo on her oversized calf.

Right behind them, I saw a skinny Asian guy of below-average height with an average face with a cute, clearly better than average Asian girl. They were speaking perfect English between them, so it's not a situation where they choose/limit themselves to their own ethnicity/culture. The girl was standing on the lower step as they were riding down the escalator and she had both of her arms wrapped tightly around him with her head on his chest. He looked distracted and was looking elsewhere.

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I don't want to digress too much from the point I'm trying to make. I didn't make many game references above, I know. Hell I'm missing some awesome observations, but that's largely because I just thought up of what I've come across in the past 24 hours, or what has happened recently. The point is that there's both positives and negatives around you. Which will you dwell on? I come across situations like these daily.

Sure, there's plenty of white knighting. Plenty of thirsty dudes that do injure the environment to an extent. Cute feminine girls, among the younger age group, are no longer the norm, as they might have been in a time past. But there are still plenty of them.

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I didn't approach any today. I've done it many times before on the summer streets of Toronto, with varied degrees of success (my first ever girl that I 'lost' my virginity to I met this way).

But, I still recognized the ample number of opportunities around me.

- Yes, there were some girls with buzzed Skrillex-like hair.
- There were some with a spare tire (disgusting).
- One had her sagging tits out and the way she was dressed with her neon-colours at 12pm, she was clearly returning from a rave and/or high on something (sadly I'm not joking).
- I also saw disgusting tattoos.

But.

- I also saw plenty of cute girls, walking alone.
- Yoga pants concealing round, proportional asses to accompany a thin waist.
- Long hair!
- Dresses, on a lean body!
- Fitness girls..
- Girls smiling!

What happens if you approach 10 of them? The ones that are walking by themselves that is, and are clearly not in a hurry, thus potentially open to a conversation with someone with at least minimal game and certainly some social skills and awareness.

Experience tells me:
- 5 of those will be very short interactions that will ultimately go nowhere (but will likely all be very warm and positive)
- The other 5 will be 5-15 minute interactions where at least 2-3 will translate to a number.

Numbers mean potential dates. Sometimes I will get 5 numbers in a couple weeks and have 3 of them convert to dates. Other times 2, others, 1, many times 0, etc.

Not too get to statistical, but yeah.

Opportunities are there. With quality girls. And the marketplace and dating situation, as unfavourable as it may seem, is not apocalyptic.

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I don't want to ramble much longer. I didn't effectively structure this post as you can probably tell but I did post some of my very serious thoughts on the matter.

I'm not the only one with these opinions either. Certainly not.

As I've mentioned before, my game is still a beginner level, and I've had varied degrees of success here, with a tremendous amount of work put in over the past couple years.

One thing I do have to say before this post seems too contradictory, is that my success rate has been much, much higher abroad. I've converted much, much more efficiently. Generally speaking, I do agree sexual marketplaces are better abroad.

But that doesn't mean it's a pussy hell here either.

Far, far from it.