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12-15-2014, 08:44 AM
Insta kill is a very fine shot and glass makes it difficult.
They probably also want to scope if he's a loon solo, and not someone with with an accomplice who with detonate half of the Sydney CBD if they see his corpse on live TV
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12-15-2014, 08:44 AM
Only heard about this not that long ago (I'm from Australia, now living abroad) its pretty sad to read about this especially since I've been to that cafe in Martin place so many times in the past.
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12-15-2014, 09:15 AM
From his wikipedia page
"Hate mail" campaign
Haron is notable for the campaign undertaken by him and his colleague, Amirah Droudis, protesting the presence of Australian troops in Afghanistan, which takes the form of letters sent to the families of fallen soldiers in which he denigrates the soldiers as murderers,[2] and urged the soldiers' families to petition the government to remove its troops from Afghanistan. The letters were sent to the families of deceased Australian Soldiers.As per Justice Heydon of the High Court, the letters compared " the (deceased soldier) son to a pig and to a dirty animal. It calls the son's body "contaminated". It refers to it as "the dirty body of a pig". It describes Hitler as not inferior to the son in moral merit."[3] Haron was arrested on charges of "using a postal or similar service to menace, harass or cause offence".[4]
On 10 November 2009 Haron appeared in court and claimed through his lawyers to be a peace activist. He later chained himself to the courthouse in protest over the charges.[5] Haron was subsequently barred by the courts from expanding his protest to include letters to UK soldiers' families.[6]
In December 2011, Haron appeared before the Court of Criminal Appeal in Sydney arguing that the charges against him were invalid because they infringed on his implied constitutional freedom of political communication, but the three-judge panel unanimously dismissed his case.[7]
Upon further appeal to the High Court of Australia, the six-judge panel split 3-3 over the issue.[8] Although the High Court of Australia normally comprises seven judges, one seat was vacant and as yet unfilled at the time Haron's case appeared before the court. Failing to achieve a majority vote in Haron's favour, the lower court's unanimous decision was left to stand.[9]
Murder case
On 15 November 2013, Haron was charged by NSW Police with being an accessory before and after the fact to the murder of Noleen Hayson Pal, allegedly stabbed and set alight in a Werrington apartment stairwell on 21 April 2013. His partner Amirah Droudis, was formally charged with Pal's murder.[10] Pal was Haron's ex-wife.
On 12 December 2013, Haron and Amirah were given bail at Penrith Local Court. Magistrate Darryl Pearce said there wew significant flaws in the Crown's case against the pair. "It is a weak case'" he said.[11] Prosecutor Brian Royce said Monis' claims the Iranian Secret Police and ASIO were trying to frame him for the murder was fanciful. Magistrate Pearce said all theories needed to be examined.[12]
On 22 January 2014, Haron told magistrate Joan Baptie that he was representing himself and proceeded to talk about documents ASIO has on him that he wanted to see. He told the court he has been charged in connection to the murder of his ex-wife because ASIO is conspiring against him to have him jailed. But Magistrate Baptie told him she cannot order ASIO to release documents about him. Haron stood outside the Parramatta Local Court wearing chains and holding a sign claiming he has been tortured in jail. He said: "This is not a criminal case. This is a political case."[13]
Sexual assault case
On 14 March 2014, Haron was arrested and charged with sexually and indecently assaulting a young woman who went to his consultancy in Wentworthville, New South Wales for "spiritual healing", after seeing an advertisement in a local newspaper. Haron claimed he was an expert in "astrology, numerology, meditation and black magic" services.[14]
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12-15-2014, 09:22 AM
I just heard the ABC say again he has 40 sexual assault charges currently pending that he was in court for last week. He is also currently on bail for accessory to the murder of his ex-wife. They also said he had a really bad time in prison involving "excrement", I'm assuming from other inmates...
This guy might've felt he had nothing to lose considering his rap sheet.
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12-15-2014, 09:41 AM
Is it 1987 when Saddam was dropping bombs on Iran? On what grounds can a Irannian seek assylum on the grounds of refugee status in this modern day? This dude isn't from broken Somalia. This isn't the UK who will let anybody with a pulse in.
The man is of at least a resident. I am not 100% familair with Australia intake laws but it would seem they would model Canada and likely be even more stringent.
The fact he is Irannian makes me suspicious.
When dudes start hyping up bombs I never believe it. Look at the history of mass bombings. Making a damage level bomb in 2014 is almost impossible, key ingredients that are needed to get the yeild to do any significant damage are tracked and put in database. Its nearly impossible to build a bomb that can do wide spread damage without "assistance".
So either the bombs are a lie and diversion to toss others over the boat or he is controlled for larger policy motives to be persued.
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12-15-2014, 09:47 AM
Everything i'm reading here makes me think he's mentally ill more than a jihadist.
(well more mentally ill than I consider any religious person).
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12-15-2014, 09:51 AM
Speculation follows. This is a fictional fantasy criminal analysis workup which is not based on any contact with a real individual. It is not to be used for legal or professional purposes. It is garbage. Do not take it seriously. Any similarity to real persons alive or deceased is purely coincidental.
This profoundly troubled 50 YO individual of Iranian origin has left a trail of havoc in his life including a dead tortured wife, possibly apparently killed by a new female companion, and a nationally disruptive hostage crisis involving bomb threats.
He currently is holding hostages and it is reasonable to try to envision how his obvious mental health problems may impact the victims of his criminal behavior.
The most worrisome factor in his current rampage is whether there are significant mood disorder elements overlaid on his severe personality disorder.
A provisional Axis II diagnosis might be Personality disorder , Mixed, Severe, with Antisocial, Narcissistic, and Histrionic traits.
Possible worsening bipolar II disorder may be placing him in an intensely dysphoric mixed state featuring both agitation and depressive feelings, the cause of which he will perceive in a distorted way as due to the "threatening and scheming" cultural milieu in which he lives.
His legal history indicates he is a classic practitioner of taking a "victim stance" as chronic criminals do, and attributing his own violent and brutal actions to being "forced" by others to act out.
If he is in an intense dyphoria due to Axis I mood dysregulation, the "I can't stand it" quality of that state may combine with his grandiose perception of his own "cause" to drive him to do even more damage than he already has, and perhaps set off a bomb or other violent act.
If, on the other hand, his actions are primarily due to his severely inflated self-evaluation (narcissism) combined with a disregard of the effects of his actions on others, there is hope that his grandiosity may protect those around him from his infantile rage.
He maybe, hopefully, be too narcissistic to kill himself.
Above is fictional, non-professional , speculative opinion. No contact with the individual has been made. The above is garbage. Any similarity to to real individuals, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
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12-15-2014, 09:54 AM
Hang on...you can get bail for being an accessory to murder? I didn't think even us Brits were that lenient!
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12-15-2014, 10:00 AM
The 40 sexual assault charges all seem to stem from his "spiritual healing" practice... He's been convicted before for sending offensive letters to the families of deceased veterans.
Edit: More hostages came out seconds ago.
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12-15-2014, 10:18 AM
Five hostages escaped in the last few minutes. SWAT team stormed the cafe. Lots of banging noises, looks like flash bangs being used. Not sure if the gunman started it or the police did, everything happened real fast.
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Journalists saying there was a firefight. People being taken in stretchers, it looked like the police were trying to do CPR/revive someone on the street outside...
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12-15-2014, 10:36 AM
Damn missed this. Any footage of the swarming anywhere?
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12-15-2014, 10:55 AM
I used to work at the reserve bank of Australia a copy of blocks away.
Used to stop off to buy coffee every single morning a block or two from work every single morning.