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1+ years in Singapore - Datasheet
#76
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@Cyclone

That's some deep shit.
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#77
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Anybody reading this thread ever set one up or know someone who has? Curious since it's a very business friendly place and i am exploring the idea.
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#78
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A business has to either be a sole proprietorship, partnership, company, limited liability partnership, limited liability company (can't rmb the others)

Google ACRA singapore. They have detailed information about this. Also you must register your business entity with them, and depending on the type of entity, various conditions have to be fulfilled.

My advice, any type of business is feasible except a food business. What dyou have in mind?
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#79
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Has anyone tried to day-game tourist chicks in Singapore (e.g. at Merlin Park)? Variety is not great but there seems to be enough cute Chinese (or Chinese-looking) girls.
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#80
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The problem with Chinese tourists is that they're from china. Now before you accuse me of spewing racial diatribe, hear me out.

I can game in mandarin, being Chinese myself. The problem with Chinese girls is that they're not very feminine and can act rather boorish at times I.e talking loudly in mandarin and acting like country bumpkins. Second, a lot of Chinese women are either working girls, or students looking for sugar daddies. Third, if you do not speak mandarin, you will not be able to communicate with them as they speak very limited amounts of English.

I go for Koreans and Japanese women here. Unbeknownst to many, there's a huge Korean and Japanese community working in Singpaore. I'm not talking snobby expat types (there are those) but rather people who come here on a local term remuneration contract.

Since many of them are neophytes to the country, I offer to bring them around show them to cool places etc, game on from there.

An alternative for you to consider.
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#81
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^very true observation about mainland Chinese. Totally different animal than Singapore or HK Chinese gals.
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#82
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Quote: (12-29-2014 10:38 AM)Agreddor Wrote:  

... The problem with Chinese girls is that they're not very feminine and can act rather boorish at times I.e talking loudly in mandarin and acting like country bumpkins.

Yeah, I’ve heard about that and witnessed it myself in Merlion Park. Tourists were taking pictures and doing tourist stuff. Out of the blue four young Chinese chicks got into the middle pushing everyone aside and started taking photos of themselves with silly face and poses, talking and laughing loudly and not noticing anyone around. Dressed nicely but un-stylish. One was even wearing flip-flops. Anyway, their un-sophistication made them even cuter [Image: smile.gif] (kinda country girls in a city). Unfortunately they did not speak any English [Image: sad.gif]

Well, I'd try such a Chinese girl not for a LTR but for short holiday romance [Image: wink.gif]

SlickyBoy, could share more about how HK and Macao girls are different?
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#83
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No experience with Macau (yet), but it is similar to HK in terms of people's attitudes and behavior. You can always tell HK and mainland people (not just women) from the pack. Not only are they louder and more boorish, generally, but in the airport the will be the ones pushing and shoving like you aren't even there (until you push back - ha. They never expect that!). HK Chinese are much better behaved and often have a good grasp of English, though not always.

Not so long ago in Singapore they had to have urine detectors (yes, urine detectors!) in the floors of elevators where mainland Chinese moved in - to keep them from pissing in the elevator. Some of them used to shit in the streets too! Granted this was thirty or forty years ago, but there are still plenty of peasants just like that in the hinterlands of mainland China. I can't tell you how many Chinese I've met who live (and often grew up in) HK or Singapore who will not go to mainland China.
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#84
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Quote: (12-15-2014 10:19 PM)expectation Wrote:  

In any case, out of curiousity, have any of you stumbled into these so called Thai Clubs in SG? A friend of mines got me into Neverland Ranch around Orchard St and Full House Signature in CQ. It was the strangest thing - they were Bars with a large stage in the middle - and they would have these elaborate shows attempting to auction off these Thai hookers for the night. I did not see a single white person in any of my visits there and I got the impression that they only let Chinese looking people in.

Dont go there. The girls have quota of sales to meet. They will try to sell you flowers and watered drinks that you don't want. Just avoid those places.
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#85
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^ yes. Those clubs are there for businessmen to bring (mostly SG Chinese and other Chinese) clients for fun. These, and usually anything with a Martel Cognac sign out front are to be avoided. You'll either get ripped off or a social disease, or maybe both.
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#86
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Mainland Chinese women:-

1. don't shave down there
2. Poor eating habits
3. Many are skinny fat or just fat see point 2
4. They behave as if it's still the big leap forward/ cultural revolution in china
5. Materialistic
6. Bad manners in general; the way they speak, carry themselves, table manners &c.
7. They don't shave down there
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#87
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You'll find that many "macauites" are not native to Macau. Macau being a gambling resort has a large mainland Chinese and hk population. Many of the girls in Macau are pros who target westerners.

If you're in Macau you'll do well to game the tourists/ hongkees if you can tell apart the working girls from the non working girls. (This rule applies to western women as well)
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#88
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UPDATE:

Zouk(sp?) is closing soon; they lost their lease and as a result they're closing down. There's supposed to be a big blowout final bash when they close.

Attica - As described, decent club with a good ratio, although I went on a Wednesday - could be different story on the weekends. The upstairs part is somewhat better since not everybody knows it's there.

Marriott hotel bar - Called the Living Room, I think. Avoid later at night unless you are looking for a professional. There must have been 20 of them in there, all very good looking, from all over the world. They will not mention any prices and pretend to be regular girls, but once you get them in the taxi the deal is suggested. Not into professionals at all, but just an FYI if you wind up there - that's all you will see.

4 Floors - just as freak-showy as ever - trannys all around so beware.
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#89
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Quote: (12-16-2014 12:11 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Btw, I also heard Singapore feels culture-less. The pretentious westernized food critics call it the culinary capital of Asia though many hardcore East Asians like my family think those peeps are full of shit..hah

Not wrong on the Chinese Food. It really sucks ass compared to the variations you will get in parts of Malaysia and even Thailand and Indonesia. All the famous hawker stalls shut down or sold out to Mainland Chinese Vendors once their children became lawyers/doctors etc.

With that being said, Indian food in SG is really top notch. The middle class indians have held their stalls in the hawker centre for 30+ years and for $5SGD you can really get a decent South Indian feed. Same goes for the new immigrants from South India. Really top notch.
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#90
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Quote: (02-18-2015 05:38 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

UPDATE:

Zouk(sp?) is closing soon; they lost their lease and as a result they're closing down. There's supposed to be a big blowout final bash when they close.

Attica - As described, decent club with a good ratio, although I went on a Wednesday - could be different story on the weekends. The upstairs part is somewhat better since not everybody knows it's there.

Are you absolutely sure Zouk is closing down ? They keep threatening to close them down every few months but it never happens. I would actually really miss the place. As for Attica, yes i was there on a Wednesday night couple weeks ago and it was legitimately 2/3rds girls. Good shit.

Quote: (02-19-2015 07:30 AM)CodyB Wrote:  

With that being said, Indian food in SG is really top notch. The middle class indians have held their stalls in the hawker centre for 30+ years and for $5SGD you can really get a decent South Indian feed. Same goes for the new immigrants from South India. Really top notch.

Indian food is often great, but it's fucking expensive every time i get. like $6+ SGD which seems a little backwards to me. Best deal will forever be Char Siew Rice haha. As for this topic, i have not gone out for a month due to a scooter crash on the highway and have practically been bedridden for a chunk of that time. Will get back on the scene in March folks..
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#91
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^ I can only go by what I've heard from friends who go out a lot more often than I do. They say that Zouk had some kind of a favorable lease in part as a result of a government sponsored business program and that deal ended. They're essentially being forced out to make way for some other business but I'm not sure what kind.

Watch for an announcement of some last hurrah coming in March. If that doesn't happen, well maybe they got a stay of execution.


As for the hawker stalls, yes the Indians are more likely to keep it going from one generation to the next whereas the Chinese families have kids uninterested in doing that once they get educated. Actually it's getting hard to find Singaporean Chinese kids interested in doing much of anything lately - especially the guys. They're really suffering from decades of mollycoddling by the government and smother-mothering by their overbearing mothers. Its too common to hear about loser brothers, deadbeat husbands and domineering women in Singapore Chinese families nowadays. Once the struggle to build the nation was complete and things got easier, too many guys got comfortable and stopped teaching their sons how to be men. Took me a while to realize what was going on, but now that I see it, Singaporean raised Chinese men stand out like a sore thumb outside of Asia - no confidence, no self assurance and definitely no game.
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#92
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Hey everyone, I'm a Singaporean living in Tokyo now, would be back in September so those who are looking to exchange more tips on Singapore, we can meet up for drinks once I get back.

So as a Singaporean who has been there there since forever, here are some advice on getting laid in Singapore:

1. Its hard. Singapore is one of the hardest countries in the world to game. Firstly, Taoism, Christianity and Islam are the biggest religions we have and add the Asian values and stuff in, you get a country where sex is still relatively rare apart from the SPGs. 2. day game is almost impossible but still doable in Singapore. I'll talk about this more in depth later on.

2. Good logistics matter but not as much. I live in Tokyo now. If you live too far from the party scene, you're pretty much fucked. You either spent shit loads of money on love hotels or karaokes or you get no bang. In Singapore, taxis are still not crazy ass expensive as Tokyo and the metro system allows you to get around pretty easily relatively quick.

3. Day game problems. Day game in Singapore is difficult because Singaporeans would help you if you play the lost foreigner card. But that's it. Any further attempt at conversation would label you weird and all the more less receptive. In Singapore, giving your mobile no is a huge thing. Most of the time, unless you can afford to spend enough time at a decent conversation, chances are you'll get her "facebook" or "instagram" that would go nowhere. Street game is bleak here and that brings me to my personal favourite daygame in Singapore: coffeeshop game. At a Starbucks, people are more receptive to conversations. As a foreigner, you can then use lost foreigner game and then slowly bring in to a much more meaningful conversation. For all my Singaporean bros out there, direct game is the best. We don't have the foreigner card in our homeland so I found it so much easier to just go in straight for the compliment. I normally go "I was sitting over there and I thought you look beautiful. *cue smile and thanks from her* Nice to meet you, I'm Zerdame. And you are?" *go for handshake* I have tried this and 8/10 times, I managed to sit down with her and have a conversation. Alternatively, you can ask her to look after your stuff for you while you head to the washroom and strike a convo when you come back. Its all about the process, if you don't screw it up, daygame is manageable in Singapore.

4. There is no white/black/whatever god in Singapore. While SPGs may have a preference for a certain type. Most local girls you see on the street will not be anymore inclined to date you for the fact that you are a foreigner. While the stereotype of dating foreigners equals sluts is dying out, Singaporean girls are exposed to foreign media from a very young age. We grow up learning about other cultures and histories given that ours is only 50years long and hardly covers much syllabus. Our music and film scenes are still growing so our consumption of movies and music are largely from the West. As such, there is close to no foreigner advantage when it comes to dating. There are some girls who are just not interested in foreigners at all.

5. It is shit expensive. Singapore is one of the richest countries in the world and was voted the most expensive city to live in in the world in a survey in 2014. Going out would cost your wallet and the best way to bring your girl on a date is to do cultural activities or go on picnics. Its cheap and girls love it.

6. It is hard to build a harem. Because our country is so small, it is (I swear to god) the hardest place on earth to date more than 2 girls at once. Everyone is seemingly connected to each other somehow on social media and word spreads fast. It may seem ridiculous given that we have 6million people living in Singapore but trust me, word.gets.around.fast.

So what are my suggestions:
After reading this, you may feel like Singapore is a shithole and you should pass on a visit or not work here. However it is still a viable location if you appreciate the chase. Singaporean girls are(mostly) intellectual and CAN hold a decent conversations. We are Western educated but also retain Asian values. In this sense, they will speak their mind most of the time but will also know when to make you look good in public, a trait I personally miss here in Japan when all the girls have opinions but they dont fucking say shit and they are incredibly ignorant about anything that is not Japanese.

That's it for now, if you need anymore info on Singapore or even Tokyo, feel free to ask here or even give me a PM. Cheers~
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#93
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Zerdame,

I'm a white European with intermediate game and am currently on a short term stay in sg. My experience differs much from what you wrote.

I used badoo three days prior arrival and got messages from girls who are from ELEVEN different countries, including two FSU countries. I'll work on my pipeline (low hanging fruit I admit) before trying my luck at night or doing day game.
My comments on your points...

1. I don't find it hard at all in sg. I was on six dates yet. From three of them I got the bang with relative ease, on two others there was at least a makeout, and a solid perspective for second date. One girl was a wallflower.
2. Agree, logistics do not matter that much. I have a cheap hotel in an outter district, but it was not difficult getting those girls to my place. One of them was in a hurry and paid the taxi. She undressed herself immediately when we reached my room, and 20 minutes later she left as she had to go home.
3. Can't comment on that as I didn't day game.
4. One singaporean girl I met during the day heavily complimented my facial hair; a malaysian chinese chick rubbed my nose as she said it would bring her luck. Being white definitely helps me but not as much as in the Philippines.
5. Depends. I immediately eject when a girl suggests eating out. That said, every one has her own public transportation card, and some girls prefer to pay their drinks. Till now, no date would cost me more than 20 SGD. Compare that with a meet up in Manila, where usually the man shall pay for everything, including her taxi...
6. I told two of the girls upfront that I meet other women as well, and it didn't affect my success on them. I think a harem is indeed possible here.

I didn't stay long enough in sg yet, and without doing day and night game, I cannot yet properly rate that city-state.
But from what I've seen in that short period, Singapore seems to me an underrated poosy paradise.
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#94
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Selembao,

I'm glad you had a good time man! I think in general you just played the Singapore Game right. The Tourist edition that is. Actually what you did is what most foreigners should do if you are only here as a tourist or a short business trip. I apologise if I didn't clarify that mine was written largely for the expats and locals!

The term SPG, Sarong Party Girl, is a term to describe girls who date almost exclusively foreigners, who are normally associated with wealth. While SPGs are easy to come by if you do solid nightgame, most expats would have gotten their SPG flag and are looking to get their HDB flag(LOL I'm going to use this term to describe normal singapore girls from now)

Being white helps but like I said, it serves as an initial attraction point (eg. facial hair, nose, hair colour) and like you mentioned correctly, its a big contrast to other SEA countries, the white god is definitely stronger in those countries.

Yes! Singapore girls would mostly offer to pay for their food but you mentioned 1 date(I presume 1 meal) being SGD20. Thats at least SGD50 a day and considering how SGD50 is sufficient for a week in some other countries, its still pretty steep!

Like I said, a harem is possible if you're a tourist and if you mentioned that they are ok with you seeing other girls, it brings back to the point that you are dating SPGs and that is a completely different game from normal local girls as most SPGs just want some no-strings attached fun. The appeals dies if you're an expat and are looking to game higher level girls who are hotter than the SPGs. A harem is very rocky if you live in Singapore long term.

Anyway, I think as a tourist, you played all your cards right and you were rewarded accordingly. Singaporean girls offer the possibility of native english speaking ability(yes we know we have an accent) and asian femininity. Hope you drop by again soon bro!
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#95
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I have been an expat in Singapore for 2.5 years now. I agree with a lot of what Zerdame has written here. Naturally I have had a slightly different experience but he is a local Singaporean writing it from both a Singaporean and expats perspective and I appreciate he is trying to cater to both crowds. Sure a tourist rocking up here largely playing the online game is going to have an even more difference experience still. I honestly rarely bother with online bar the occasional half assed tinder swipes as I can get far superior quality cold approaching (and it's more fun that way).

Anyway, I'll come back on the points you raised in order:

1. Singapore is hard for South East Asia but in general, globally it is actually quite easy. If you're a white guy banging SPGs like me that is [Image: smile.gif] But to be honest the local girls bore the shit out of me bar a few exceptions and the circles I run in is mainly expats, westernised Singaporean locals (or other asian nationals) and of course partying in the higher end places your SPG bottle rats come as part of the package. I have slammed plenty ex pat chicks and westernised locals as well as SPGs - just mainly from the higher end (ie non-Clark Quay) party scene. The quality is generally fairly high (from feedback I have received from various guys) and it's been pretty easy if I compare to back in the UK. SNL-ing in particular. But yeah Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines and Vietnam etc are a different league again and make Singapore look tough. The main issue is when you get to the real top end girls then you have some seriously stiff competition here. They have plenty of rich worshipers and are used to banging expat dudes with model looks, loaded and have solid game to boot. I'm talking early/mid 30s guys who own nightclubs and yachts and shit. I even got cockblocked by an ex F1 driver once. But still, for a white guy, compared to London Singapore is a fucking turkey shoot.

Now for a local I am sure your experience is very different and yes I do feel sorry for local guys, the local girls seems to have some kind of superiority complex. What with the womans charter and men being punted off to the military for a couple of years to come back 2 years behind their previous female college class mates, it sure cant be easy. I have many local friends who tell me the stories and even with the local girls who only stick to their own kind still have a suprising number of local dudes whizzing around in Lambos and on tables with 20 bottles of champagne. One walk round the KPO carpark on a Friday night should confirm this.

2. Agreed, logistics aren't that big a deal. As long as you dont live on the complete other side of the island. Cabs are cheap and generally easy to get. Sometimes there are phases in the night where it's impossible to get a cab but in that case it doesnt matter if you live 1 minute drive away or 1 hour, you aint banging. Cos unless your apartment is literally the next block you aint walking cos of the heat.

3. Daygame isn't really my bag but I can see how it would be difficult. You even stop a local to ask directions and they look at you like you just shit in their hat. Casual conversations with someone on the street is a little out there for the locals, just a cultural thing I guess. I know Bodipua came over here for a bit and found the daygame almost pointless.

4. I wouldn't say theres 'no' white god factor. But it is significantly less of an affect here than anywhere else. I would say bar Hong Kong and perhaps Korea (from what I've heard but never been), being white is less of an advantage than any other place in Asia. Just cos theres so many other rich white ex pats that you just dont stand out as much. But you still have some advantage for sure.

However there are some disadvantages to being foreign: I have been to a few local clubs where the chicks run away if you talk to them cos you're white. In those same clubs I have also had some rich spoilt chinese kids on a table literally grab me by the throat for talking to one of "his" chicks (and within the first 30 seconds of a casual conversation). So I presume most of these girls scarper from you as they dont want to be labelled with the 'slut' tag with her peer group and also knowing the guy whos paying for all their drink will have a spaz out. Also a lot of the malay bouncers will hate your guts and looking for any reason to throw you out or, in the rare worst cases, even give you the kicking of your life.

5. Amen. it is shit expensive. Boozing especially. Tho certain things like cabs, MRT and eating in foodcourts are still pretty cheap. At the same time, depending on your line of work you can make a shit tonne of money here to offset and the place is clean, efficient and very easy to live in.

6. Agreed. Although I am guessing you are talking more from the local perspective but this is still very true for the ex pats also. After living there a year it gets to the point where I meet a chick and if I add her on facebook you will have c.4 mutual friends. Two are her friends whom you've already banged, 2 are your friends who have already banged her. The higher end chicks especially have to be very careful of this so you need to demonstrate you can show discretion (ie don't go for a sloppy makeout in the middle of the dancefloor etc, and for the SNL quietly sneak her out of the club unbeknown to your or her friends).

I had a fair sized hareem going pretty much the whole time I was here but was mainly expats and SPGs with one or two local girls thrown in. But again I think it's different for local guys and girls, there is a lot more gossip and particularly judgement for you guys I would imagine.

I would also add at this point that one of my favourite things about Singapore is getting out of it. ie you can work at a well paying job then book a flight to so many destinations in SE Asia and fly direct from Changi on one of the many budget airlines very cheaply. Generally you can fly for a long weekend to Jakarta, HCMC, Bangkok or even Manila and your all in cost (flights, accom, transfers incl) will probably end up the same or even cheaper than a big weekend in Singapore. You can party hard in another city, bang all round you and not worry about building up a rep there. While in between you can work social circle game back in Singapore and hang out with the many cool people you can meet there.

I got flamed before for this but my experience has been a lot of chicks (SPGs mainly) more or less expect you to pay for everything in Singapore too. Just really depends what type of girls you are going for. I largely prefer the party girls who believe me could snap their fingers and three thirsty expat guys would deliver them a Hermes handbag within the hour. That's just their reality. I am mid 30s and dress sharp so I often get tarred with the same brush but I will make it very clear I am a different breed. But even the expat girls are at the same shit. Just cos every other guy throws $$$s at them it is just expected. I generally stopped bothering with dates as they would be costly, boring and time consuming. Only the few girls with real fun personalities I would take out for dinner and drinks (and they would mostly pay their way anyway), the rest were just as easily banged via SNL or 3am booty call to come join me in whatever club im at.

Any questions or thoughts let me know.

Irish
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#96
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Singapore in a nutshell

http://www.returnofkings.com/57649/singa...modern-man
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#97
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The pros and cons have already been discussed in detail. I'll add this one bit about the club scene though.

Most places are teeny bopper joints. In these joints you'll find 4 groups of girls.

The SPGS, singyporeans, the expat international school kids, and tourists.

I always go for the latter 2.

Tourists are easy especially if you speak their language. Oddly enough there is a small Russian community here in singapore and you can always identify them from their Slavic features. If you speak Russian, or rather if you know a few phrases you'll stand out from everyone else. Irregardless of wether you're white or Asian.

There is no shortage of Koreans either. Many of them come here to study.

International school kids: if you go out on ladies night, you'll find clubs packed full of them.

They can be tricky to handle, but not as difficult as Singaporean chicks. The good thing is, although they come in groups, there aernt many guys in said group if you go to clubs where the age req for men is 21+.

That being said, many of these girls are asianized western chicks. They've lived in singapore their whole lives and are essentially Singaporean chicks who look white

Dont bother with daygame UNLESS you're gaming tourists.

I've lived here 6 years and I'm waiting to get out, this place is shit.
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#98
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Glad we revived this thread man.
In generally yes to everything that has been said. A tourist's game is different from an expat's game which is different from a local's game. Agree with Irish that in Singapore its really a wide spectrum of who you hang out with. Everything from paying for stuff to willingness to fuck, the crowd you hang with will determine how often you get laid. Its also perhaps my local mindset I guess that complicates things as well. As a Singaporean, I probably have different standards of what I consider attractive. For example my 9 could be your 7 and your 7 could be my 9. All in all, Singapore is good for work because of our open economy and being the second safest city in the world, crime is almost non-existent. If you are location-independent and just want to have easy lays then other parts of SEA would be a better place for you to ply your trade. Like what Irish said, Singapore serves as a good base to have while you fly off to other places for the weekends. In my next post, I will elaborate more on day game in Singapore for foreigners.
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#99
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DAY GAME FOR FOREIGNERS IN SINGAPORE:

WARNING: This serves only as a guide based on my experience gaming in Singapore and stories shared by my expat friends who live in Singapore

Coffeeshop game: If you think Starbucks or CBTL in Singapore, you think students. Keep in mind that these are the main demographics of girls that visit these places to study so it works out for me as I am in my early 20s. Normally my coffeeshop game is a fusion of both direct and indirect. I would sit beside the girl I'm interested in or if i see none, just sit at a prime spot and wait for whoever comes to sit beside me. Keep in mind that coffeeshop game takes up time so I normally do it when I have work myself to do. Ask her to watch your stuff for you while you go to the toilet/get something to eat. Remember to play it natural and thank her with a smile when you come back. If she's studying, now would be an appropriate to ask "mugging?" Yes I know, in Standard English, a mugging means a beating but in local slang, mugging means to study. Don't ask why cause I don't know but knowing this as a foreigner would normally not go unnoticed to a Singaporean. Strike up a conversation and tease her about taking up the seat. This works especially well if you are ALSO doing work and the Starbucks is particularly empty. It makes your tease sarcastic and thank God, Singaporeans actually understand sarcasm(fuck Japan) From there, just do basic conversation, she should be able to give some input here and there if she's interested. Number close. Pretty Standard.

Bookshop game: As a foreigner, you have some leeway as there is still a general idea that foreigners(read:westerners) are more friendly. Even as a local, both direct and indirect have paid off. For Direct: Go up and compliment her, saying you noticed her and would like to come to say hi. It's a hit or miss but if you can do conversation game from there, number closing is pretty easy if she accepts your attempts at conversation. For Indirect: Do the whole "oh you like this book too?" game. Google the title and get a summary of what the book is about LOL. After this is pretty much similar to direct game. Conversation, number close, wham bang.

What if you get the kiss of death: An offer for Facebook/Twitter/Instagram instead of the number
In this case, always aim to get Facebook or Twitter. Reason being they are easiest to send direct messages. If she gives you her facebook, like her photos periodically. Similarly on Twitter as well. Assuming you have a list of girls that you have gotten their social medias, you can then send a mass invite via PM once in a while to get them out on dates. If they agree, they almost will then give you their number(Who goes on a date with someone that doesnt have their number?)

Text game in Singapore:
Unlike Japan, the whole text them only to set up dates thing works to a certain extent. Send them periodical conversation-styled text here and there. Maybe once or twice a day is adequate. Just to have a steady build up to the date and to ensure she wouldn't flake.

Date logistics:
SNL are rare among normal girls and even first date sex are rare as well. I push for them but even if I can't, I push my boundaries so that sex almost happens on the second date. If they flake after the first date, well at least you got something. Try the merlion park area for a first date. Its presentable for a first date but also many quiet corners for make ups to make her horny. If you have a car, driving off somewhere for car sex is a very viable option. For those without a car, you can pull her off to your place in a cab with just saying "lets go" If she ask where, just kiss her and make out with her again. Do this repeatedly till you get to the taxi stand where there might be people. If she ask again where you are going, just reply "would you like me to do it here?" It sends a subtle message of what is to come and also keeps her quiet. At this point, if she doesn't resist and gets in the cab with you, you are just about there. Go home and close the night.

Hope this has been helpful!
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Many of you complain about western women, feminism and the concomitant difficulties you face with them.

One point that hasn't been touched is this; Singapore is the feminist capital of Asia.

Not only are the women feminist, they're sexually repressed. The whole fucking country is sexually repressed. Half the men here don't know how to put on a condom (I don't kid) *pardon the pun

Yes, western women can be a pain in the ass, but at least they are sexually liberated.

If you have solid game, you can get a feminist to open her legs.

In singapore, even with solid game you might not get the bang.

@zerdame

Being white does help, but it's a double edged sword.

If you come here and you're white, the girls expect more from you. If you're a student or working on a local term remuneration package, you become a "boon dei gweilow"

I'm not sure how that would pan out.
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