I’ve been actively hosting CS girls for purposes of bangs for about a year now, this project is on hold for a few months while I sort things out and thought I should dump this out there in the meantime. This datasheet is just an accumulation of thoughts I have written down during my experiences. In general if you have 7/10 game you can bang 20-30% of girls that stay over if based in USA, higher if you are living overseas.
Couchsurfing vs. Pickup
The primary difference is that you are having a girl live with you at your place for several nights, which is a high-risk high-reward situation. My goal here is to minimize the “risk” part for you. Instead of checking her out, getting a feel for chemistry, flirting actively, pulling her home, getting the bang and calling a taxi, she sticks around and you (ideally) form a close bond with this girl over a few days. It’s great if you prefer mini-relationships after years of grinding cold approach or been out of the game for a while. The concept is easy - just message a girl that looks cute, and if she thinks it’s a good deal within days she's at your doorstep.
So What Does the Girl Do?
Girls that want to stay with a guy chooses from 2 things:
1) send a private message to him, with a personal message of why she wants to stay there. Chances of scoring a stay with this one are pretty high, as they probably only send 2-4 initial messages.
2) make a public post on that city's homepage about her upcoming stay, inviting anyone to extend a hand to host her. Then about 10-15 thirsty guys ask her to stay with him and she then has a wide variety of guys to choose from. Chances of landing this girl are lower, if she even responds at all.
Once she's over, the focus is to make her feel comfortable (many have been traveling for several days). They usually stay around 4-5 days, and you bang her from the 2nd night onwards if you are on the same page. For those that have full time jobs it can take a toll not only on the comforts of your routine but your cold approach pickup is usually hampered as well. For those with flexible schedules or are open minded, Couchsurfing is a solid supplement to your lifestyle.
After she leaves, she leaves a public reference about her time with you.
Mentality
The reason hosting girls works (and not the other way around) is that the situation automatically puts your in a dominant role by default. You are the host, the master, you know the city, and you are in control, and within minutes you'll notice her slip under your frame (unless she’s a cunt). This is good because even if you haven't been socializing/gaming for weeks, you can get right back in the zone almost immediately.
Warning: I would not waste my time with CS if you have beginner or mediocre game. You absolutely have to know how to read social cues and escalate before attempting hosting. Don't be a lazy shit and practice your streetgame. In fact if you're still in a learning phase you can even surf with other girls while traveling to get a feel for the long-term chemistry. Personally, I would also consider living abroad at least once to be a precurser as well so that you have stories to talk about.
Where You Live
This is somewhat of an extension of above section. I have been a host in 5 different locations each one had drastically different results. You have to remember what TYPE of traveler you are attracting. If you are basing yourself in NYC, you're attracting a different type of female than you would if you're in Denver. Don't be a dumbass and settle on CS if you live somewhere that only attracts nerdy, history-loving, or naturey-type females that don't care for nightlife or spending time with locals. Ask yourself.. "..why do girls travel to my city?" before setting expectations. There are also more suble cultural factors such as the ratio of girls that request you vs. you needing to message them to offer your place. In more direct cultures (Anglosphere), girls will message you.. In more conservative ones, they will post a general request, and wait for offers instead to minimize accountability.
Profile Setup / Building References
Use common sense when making your profile, this can’t be your first one. There are a few things unique to CS. Keep your pictures to a minimum (5 or less), including at least a body shot and a shot of you with a bunch of girls / mixed group. You want to keep the window of sex a possibility only, not an obsession or even an expectation. I have seen guys with only 1 profile pic banging long queues of chicks, so there's no need to dump your whole facebook on there. Like an employer scanning your resume, this girl is only skimming your profile, due to the piles of requests she is getting. Therefore in your descriptions you generally just want to keep things positive, so her lasting impression is positive and amiable - demonstrating social value and well-connectedness are key perks to chick surfers.
Space availability: you have the option of putting your place as "accepting" or "maybe". Keep it as "accepting" all the time. Putting yourself as "maybe" doesn't necessarily filter out the undesirables and you can always reject anyone. If you are really overwhelmed, just set it to "not accepting" for a couple weeks, but sometimes girls ask several weeks in advance so I would avoid even that.
Preferred gender: keep it at "any", obviously. This doesn't stop you from rejecting every male that requests but some of them make good wingmen if you want to focus on your cold approach. If you're feeling ballsy I've seen some guys put "female only" which could be a good experiment.
“Response rate”: this shows people how often you actually respond to requests. You generally want to keep this at 60-75%. You want to make it look to the girl like you're a catch, but not so low that it discourages girls from trying in the first place. You can artificially manipulate this by X'ing out 1/3 of requests that you don’t care about; if you need to bump it up, just reply “no” to a few requests.
References: This is how you develop social proof and value before she accepts to stay with you. Otherwise, there would be no difference between CS and your average dating site. So, it's time to start racking up references - at the top of your page, you'll find an "events" tab, and in a typical metropolitan city there are 4-5 events happening every week, including standard regular meetups. Befriend some high value folks at these events (at this point it should be a combination of guys and girls), you will want to spend a cumulative 5-10 hours with them before writing a reference about them and hope it is reciprocated. Newer members are more willing to give you a reference than the jaded ones.
Besides CS meetups, if you have a flexible schedule / student, you can offer to show girls around your city, and take her to cool events. I have pulled girls from their hosts this way, but it's rare, so just aim for the reference. Girls are always looking for guys to show them around, some even already have a hotel or are cooped up with family.
Room Setup
1) ideally, you want a studio. Large places / couches give her too many options on where to pass out. If you're stuck in a large house, well, you should already have a formula in place ..
2) have an excuse for having her sleep in your room. Mine was usually A/C, but yours can be roommates, noise, comfort; I even know a girl that moved to her host's bedroom because there was inconvenient "morning sunlight coming through the living room".
3) ground floor or basements rooms offered best results. For whatever reason, girls are more horny on the ground floor or basement than the floors above. I've never done penthouse though.
4) extra mattress. Do not offer her a couch, or even have one - instead, have a soft sleeping bag or twin mattress, right alongside your bed. Tons of body pillows and fleece material go a long way. Do NOT offer just a singular bed, I’ve tried this and while not a disaster you do want it to be her choice.
5) have a guest towel and hang fruity lavender fragrances in your closet and pillowcase. Pheromones from your last "guests" all over your towel and bedsheets help - I delay washing their bathtowel.
6) alcohol. My favorite combo is 50% vodka with lime juice from the supermarket. In the middle of any activity, suggest whipping out some cocktails. No reason to make it more complicated, just have a formula beforehand. Red wine / chamomile tea / hot chocolate works too
7) this is usually a last-ditch effort, but TV shows. It shouldn’t take the duration of a movie to get action going (I literally had a girl leave in the middle of a George Clooney movie). Get some Seth Rogen or Amy Schumer episodes in your backlog though these days it’s hard to get her off her phone, in which case you can suggest to show you pictures of her travels, which they're usually super eager to show.
8) have several pictures of your home on yr profile, and the sleeping setup. Choose “shared room” in the description, or “shared bed” if you’re feeling ballsy. If you're in a good location, post a google map screenshot of where you're at! Promote your location if you’ve got a good one.
9) it’s okay to be a bit far. Remember, a girl wants inconspicuous sex, and if she can do it in the comfort of a home several miles from the city she will. I've hosted while being 20 miles from the city, and from living a few blocks from the clubs; there is no noticeable difference. However, you will get more requests if you are in the city (most hosts are broke and live far out).
**if you are a single male with a flexible schedule for the foreseeable future, I would seriously consider moving out of your place and renting out a condo in the outskirts of the city purely for CS purposes. That's what I did at the middle of last summer and had since literally been stealing all the girls from other hosts in my city on the regular. Do it only if you view this as a long-term prospect. I paid $1000+ a month for my condo unit, and all the free bangs and bonuses you get more than make up for it.
Screening Girls
1) The first step is ensuring she is DTF in the first place. Most girls out there are NOT expecting to have sex with her host believe it or not, even if he is male. There are 2 ways to screen for girls looking for sex: a) the biggest factor, she has many references from other males stating how fun, cheery, and open-minded she is. But you must click one step further on the males' profiles - do they, too, have tons of references from almost exclusively girls? If yes, she's in it for the dick. It's a downer knowing she's banged a bunch of those dudes, but you’re not doing this to find your wifey. b) your profile/references are sexually-charged. It should be obvious to a female surfer that bangs are part of the package - photos of you with other girls, suggestive descriptions, references from almost exclusively female surfers, and a sweet private pad are all indicators. If she sees that you live with your parents or have no suggestive photos, she will eliminate you from her list.
2) filtering function: your first reaction may be to use the filter on the top to narrow down the type of girl you want. For example, gender, age, # travelers.. Do NOT use the filter function! This is because some girls don't post their real age, the # of travelers they are, or even their gender. When you leave it blank, you can see the entire results - just skim it yourself manually, it's worth the extra few minutes, especially since you'll be messaging gems that other suckers can't see since they're using the stupid filters.
3) IME there is NO correlation between her experience and chances of banging her (# references, when she signed up). One bang I had had 90 references, some just a couple. However, the ones that are completely new to it, are generally clueless and therefore a waste of time..
4) think hard about where she’s from and where you stand on the alpha-chain. THIS IS CRUCIAL AND EASILY THE #1 FACTOR ON WHETHER SHE’LL BANG. Girls are always comparing you to the other men they are surrounded with, including their hometowns. If they are coming from a place where the men are more alpha then you, your chances are slim. If they’re coming from a society of tame, beta wussies, you can easily own her. It takes girls a couple weeks to “forget” where they came from and re-adjust their expectations. So if she grew up in Argentina but spent a semester in Portland, you could be in the clear. I cannot emphasize this enough and is my primary guiding principle - I always make sure she has been surrounded by hordes of beta bitches before coming over.
5) words like "have fun", "explore", "trying new things", "open minded" generally have no correlation to chances of bang IME, but, girls that show signs of retardation like silly B-list movies, quotations, and use lots of emoticons and exclamation marks are easy catches. Bad grammar / spelling is a huge indicator.
6) obviously you want to make sure she has one slutty photo. Like you, it should only take her 1 revealing photo to get the message across that she’s looking for a bang.
7) once you start messaging girls (typically 3-5 at a time), adjust your age such that it is a few years older than your main target(s). You can do this under the "account & settings" tab. CS lets you do this as often as possible, amusingly.
8) check the references she leaves for the guys she stays with, if she even does at all. A girl that doesn't reciprocate references is a big no-no, especially if she doesn't sleep with you because then you get nothing out of it. If she is glowing for them, she will glow for you too.
*insight for well-seasoned travelers: you may have noticed that in some societies women display much public affection, are open/notorious about their sexuality, and the slutty lifestyle is glorified. In other societies, sexuality is conservative, behind closed doors and very secretive. The latter type is what you should be going for: because these girls grew up repressed, once they are behind closed doors and in your bedroom, they're suddenly very willing to get intimate with you. This is akin to the girl that goes to a Christian / all-girl high school and sluts it out big time when she gets to college. To this day I get shocked when a girl refuses to hug in public but is pulling me onto the mattress a few hours later so factor this into play. So don’t discard a girl just because she comes from a “conservative society”… she’s staying with you.. she ain’t conservative. Whereas the girl who came from casual sex, open PDA, and surrounded by sexual liberation isn’t going to think much of sleeping in the same room with a guy for a few nights.
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Couchsurfing vs. Pickup
The primary difference is that you are having a girl live with you at your place for several nights, which is a high-risk high-reward situation. My goal here is to minimize the “risk” part for you. Instead of checking her out, getting a feel for chemistry, flirting actively, pulling her home, getting the bang and calling a taxi, she sticks around and you (ideally) form a close bond with this girl over a few days. It’s great if you prefer mini-relationships after years of grinding cold approach or been out of the game for a while. The concept is easy - just message a girl that looks cute, and if she thinks it’s a good deal within days she's at your doorstep.
So What Does the Girl Do?
Girls that want to stay with a guy chooses from 2 things:
1) send a private message to him, with a personal message of why she wants to stay there. Chances of scoring a stay with this one are pretty high, as they probably only send 2-4 initial messages.
2) make a public post on that city's homepage about her upcoming stay, inviting anyone to extend a hand to host her. Then about 10-15 thirsty guys ask her to stay with him and she then has a wide variety of guys to choose from. Chances of landing this girl are lower, if she even responds at all.
Once she's over, the focus is to make her feel comfortable (many have been traveling for several days). They usually stay around 4-5 days, and you bang her from the 2nd night onwards if you are on the same page. For those that have full time jobs it can take a toll not only on the comforts of your routine but your cold approach pickup is usually hampered as well. For those with flexible schedules or are open minded, Couchsurfing is a solid supplement to your lifestyle.
After she leaves, she leaves a public reference about her time with you.
Mentality
The reason hosting girls works (and not the other way around) is that the situation automatically puts your in a dominant role by default. You are the host, the master, you know the city, and you are in control, and within minutes you'll notice her slip under your frame (unless she’s a cunt). This is good because even if you haven't been socializing/gaming for weeks, you can get right back in the zone almost immediately.
Warning: I would not waste my time with CS if you have beginner or mediocre game. You absolutely have to know how to read social cues and escalate before attempting hosting. Don't be a lazy shit and practice your streetgame. In fact if you're still in a learning phase you can even surf with other girls while traveling to get a feel for the long-term chemistry. Personally, I would also consider living abroad at least once to be a precurser as well so that you have stories to talk about.
Where You Live
This is somewhat of an extension of above section. I have been a host in 5 different locations each one had drastically different results. You have to remember what TYPE of traveler you are attracting. If you are basing yourself in NYC, you're attracting a different type of female than you would if you're in Denver. Don't be a dumbass and settle on CS if you live somewhere that only attracts nerdy, history-loving, or naturey-type females that don't care for nightlife or spending time with locals. Ask yourself.. "..why do girls travel to my city?" before setting expectations. There are also more suble cultural factors such as the ratio of girls that request you vs. you needing to message them to offer your place. In more direct cultures (Anglosphere), girls will message you.. In more conservative ones, they will post a general request, and wait for offers instead to minimize accountability.
Profile Setup / Building References
Use common sense when making your profile, this can’t be your first one. There are a few things unique to CS. Keep your pictures to a minimum (5 or less), including at least a body shot and a shot of you with a bunch of girls / mixed group. You want to keep the window of sex a possibility only, not an obsession or even an expectation. I have seen guys with only 1 profile pic banging long queues of chicks, so there's no need to dump your whole facebook on there. Like an employer scanning your resume, this girl is only skimming your profile, due to the piles of requests she is getting. Therefore in your descriptions you generally just want to keep things positive, so her lasting impression is positive and amiable - demonstrating social value and well-connectedness are key perks to chick surfers.
Space availability: you have the option of putting your place as "accepting" or "maybe". Keep it as "accepting" all the time. Putting yourself as "maybe" doesn't necessarily filter out the undesirables and you can always reject anyone. If you are really overwhelmed, just set it to "not accepting" for a couple weeks, but sometimes girls ask several weeks in advance so I would avoid even that.
Preferred gender: keep it at "any", obviously. This doesn't stop you from rejecting every male that requests but some of them make good wingmen if you want to focus on your cold approach. If you're feeling ballsy I've seen some guys put "female only" which could be a good experiment.
“Response rate”: this shows people how often you actually respond to requests. You generally want to keep this at 60-75%. You want to make it look to the girl like you're a catch, but not so low that it discourages girls from trying in the first place. You can artificially manipulate this by X'ing out 1/3 of requests that you don’t care about; if you need to bump it up, just reply “no” to a few requests.
References: This is how you develop social proof and value before she accepts to stay with you. Otherwise, there would be no difference between CS and your average dating site. So, it's time to start racking up references - at the top of your page, you'll find an "events" tab, and in a typical metropolitan city there are 4-5 events happening every week, including standard regular meetups. Befriend some high value folks at these events (at this point it should be a combination of guys and girls), you will want to spend a cumulative 5-10 hours with them before writing a reference about them and hope it is reciprocated. Newer members are more willing to give you a reference than the jaded ones.
Besides CS meetups, if you have a flexible schedule / student, you can offer to show girls around your city, and take her to cool events. I have pulled girls from their hosts this way, but it's rare, so just aim for the reference. Girls are always looking for guys to show them around, some even already have a hotel or are cooped up with family.
Room Setup
1) ideally, you want a studio. Large places / couches give her too many options on where to pass out. If you're stuck in a large house, well, you should already have a formula in place ..
2) have an excuse for having her sleep in your room. Mine was usually A/C, but yours can be roommates, noise, comfort; I even know a girl that moved to her host's bedroom because there was inconvenient "morning sunlight coming through the living room".
3) ground floor or basements rooms offered best results. For whatever reason, girls are more horny on the ground floor or basement than the floors above. I've never done penthouse though.
4) extra mattress. Do not offer her a couch, or even have one - instead, have a soft sleeping bag or twin mattress, right alongside your bed. Tons of body pillows and fleece material go a long way. Do NOT offer just a singular bed, I’ve tried this and while not a disaster you do want it to be her choice.
5) have a guest towel and hang fruity lavender fragrances in your closet and pillowcase. Pheromones from your last "guests" all over your towel and bedsheets help - I delay washing their bathtowel.
6) alcohol. My favorite combo is 50% vodka with lime juice from the supermarket. In the middle of any activity, suggest whipping out some cocktails. No reason to make it more complicated, just have a formula beforehand. Red wine / chamomile tea / hot chocolate works too
7) this is usually a last-ditch effort, but TV shows. It shouldn’t take the duration of a movie to get action going (I literally had a girl leave in the middle of a George Clooney movie). Get some Seth Rogen or Amy Schumer episodes in your backlog though these days it’s hard to get her off her phone, in which case you can suggest to show you pictures of her travels, which they're usually super eager to show.
8) have several pictures of your home on yr profile, and the sleeping setup. Choose “shared room” in the description, or “shared bed” if you’re feeling ballsy. If you're in a good location, post a google map screenshot of where you're at! Promote your location if you’ve got a good one.
9) it’s okay to be a bit far. Remember, a girl wants inconspicuous sex, and if she can do it in the comfort of a home several miles from the city she will. I've hosted while being 20 miles from the city, and from living a few blocks from the clubs; there is no noticeable difference. However, you will get more requests if you are in the city (most hosts are broke and live far out).
**if you are a single male with a flexible schedule for the foreseeable future, I would seriously consider moving out of your place and renting out a condo in the outskirts of the city purely for CS purposes. That's what I did at the middle of last summer and had since literally been stealing all the girls from other hosts in my city on the regular. Do it only if you view this as a long-term prospect. I paid $1000+ a month for my condo unit, and all the free bangs and bonuses you get more than make up for it.
Screening Girls
1) The first step is ensuring she is DTF in the first place. Most girls out there are NOT expecting to have sex with her host believe it or not, even if he is male. There are 2 ways to screen for girls looking for sex: a) the biggest factor, she has many references from other males stating how fun, cheery, and open-minded she is. But you must click one step further on the males' profiles - do they, too, have tons of references from almost exclusively girls? If yes, she's in it for the dick. It's a downer knowing she's banged a bunch of those dudes, but you’re not doing this to find your wifey. b) your profile/references are sexually-charged. It should be obvious to a female surfer that bangs are part of the package - photos of you with other girls, suggestive descriptions, references from almost exclusively female surfers, and a sweet private pad are all indicators. If she sees that you live with your parents or have no suggestive photos, she will eliminate you from her list.
2) filtering function: your first reaction may be to use the filter on the top to narrow down the type of girl you want. For example, gender, age, # travelers.. Do NOT use the filter function! This is because some girls don't post their real age, the # of travelers they are, or even their gender. When you leave it blank, you can see the entire results - just skim it yourself manually, it's worth the extra few minutes, especially since you'll be messaging gems that other suckers can't see since they're using the stupid filters.
3) IME there is NO correlation between her experience and chances of banging her (# references, when she signed up). One bang I had had 90 references, some just a couple. However, the ones that are completely new to it, are generally clueless and therefore a waste of time..
4) think hard about where she’s from and where you stand on the alpha-chain. THIS IS CRUCIAL AND EASILY THE #1 FACTOR ON WHETHER SHE’LL BANG. Girls are always comparing you to the other men they are surrounded with, including their hometowns. If they are coming from a place where the men are more alpha then you, your chances are slim. If they’re coming from a society of tame, beta wussies, you can easily own her. It takes girls a couple weeks to “forget” where they came from and re-adjust their expectations. So if she grew up in Argentina but spent a semester in Portland, you could be in the clear. I cannot emphasize this enough and is my primary guiding principle - I always make sure she has been surrounded by hordes of beta bitches before coming over.
5) words like "have fun", "explore", "trying new things", "open minded" generally have no correlation to chances of bang IME, but, girls that show signs of retardation like silly B-list movies, quotations, and use lots of emoticons and exclamation marks are easy catches. Bad grammar / spelling is a huge indicator.
6) obviously you want to make sure she has one slutty photo. Like you, it should only take her 1 revealing photo to get the message across that she’s looking for a bang.
7) once you start messaging girls (typically 3-5 at a time), adjust your age such that it is a few years older than your main target(s). You can do this under the "account & settings" tab. CS lets you do this as often as possible, amusingly.
8) check the references she leaves for the guys she stays with, if she even does at all. A girl that doesn't reciprocate references is a big no-no, especially if she doesn't sleep with you because then you get nothing out of it. If she is glowing for them, she will glow for you too.
*insight for well-seasoned travelers: you may have noticed that in some societies women display much public affection, are open/notorious about their sexuality, and the slutty lifestyle is glorified. In other societies, sexuality is conservative, behind closed doors and very secretive. The latter type is what you should be going for: because these girls grew up repressed, once they are behind closed doors and in your bedroom, they're suddenly very willing to get intimate with you. This is akin to the girl that goes to a Christian / all-girl high school and sluts it out big time when she gets to college. To this day I get shocked when a girl refuses to hug in public but is pulling me onto the mattress a few hours later so factor this into play. So don’t discard a girl just because she comes from a “conservative society”… she’s staying with you.. she ain’t conservative. Whereas the girl who came from casual sex, open PDA, and surrounded by sexual liberation isn’t going to think much of sleeping in the same room with a guy for a few nights.
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