Logistics is one of the most important ingredients in game, but also one of the most overlooked. Logistics can literally make or break your sex life, even if you're a veteran. Unfortunately, most guys don't live in a centrally located apartment in walking distance to plenty of bars and clubs. If I had to make a bet, the majority of RVF members live in the suburbs and rely on a car as their primary mode of transportation. While we should all aim to lock down dope logistics, in the mean time a system is needed for guys in this situation to be able to efficiently bang girls on the first date despite their logistics.
Tuthmosis wrote the book on getting first date bangs, which I completely endorse. Unfortunately however, most guys aren't able to walk a girl back to their place from a cool bar around the corner. This datasheet is for guys who either live in the suburbs or have to spend time there during summer's home from college, but still want a reliable system to score first date bangs.
You Will Need:
A place in the suburbs (obviously)
Access to a car
Decent Game (I cannot guarantee that this system will work for you if you're a beginner)
1 cute, non-prude girl
1 chill, intimate bar
A free weeknight
Step 1: Tell your chosen girl to meet you in the nearest nightlife area to you on a weeknight, ideally during Tuesday to Thursday. You want to avoid weekend first dates so to leave them free to approach, and because she's more likely to busy. You need to pick an area with decent public transport links, pick an area that makes it unlikely she will drive to your date. To be safe, it is best pick your city centre unless that is too far a drive from you, rather then risking picking another nightlife zone which is harder to get to by public transport. I always tell girls to meet me at a major public square directly opposite my city's hub train station which every train in the network terminates at.
Step 2: Pick a chill, intimate bar in this area. You want something that is not crowded on weeknights, and has a good layout. Ideally so that you and your date can sit next to each other on a couch or in a booth.
Step 3: Drive to the bar and park nearby. Then walk to where your supposed to meet your girl. Aim to be 5-10 minutes late. I prefer to meet girls in a big public meeting place rather than at the bar, I generally don't actually pick which one of my date bars I'm actually taking her to until I'm already on the way.
Step 4: Meet and greet (I like to do a spin hug). I always tell girls to meet me at 9PM, I would not tell a girl to meet me any earlier than 8 under any circumstances. Mention you were running late so you had to drive instead of taking the train like she would've assumed you had. Walk her to the bar you chose in step 3.
Step 5: Grab a jug of beer/cider/cocktail's (beware: cocktails run the risk of being mixed weak) and sit down next to each other in a couch/booth where you can enjoy the feeling of privacy. Run your first date game for 1.5-2 hours. Remember to do some light "kino", especially in the second hour. Touching her, arm, shoulder or the back of her to emphasis points, touching legs and so forth.
Step 6: Plant a little bait about your house. Maybe you can make a mean cocktail like Tuth does, or you have a cute pet or a guitar you can play. Even if you don't have good bait, make sure you talk about your living situation a little bit to prime her for what she'll later be getting into. Be vague about where it is unless it's a 15 minute or less drive, but be honest about whether you live with your parents, have a roommate etc. You don't want her to be asking questions about your living situation after you invite her back to your place, once you start trying to persuade her in a logical manner you're finished.
Step 7: When you finish your first glass, tell her you "probably shouldn't drink anymore" since you had to drive. This is key so you don't inadvertently land yourself a DUI. Where I live a "jug" alcohol usually contains about 3 full "pots" of alcohol, which is roughly the same amount of liquid as a can of beer. Your girl will then finish off the remaining pots worth of alcohol, meaning she's drunk twice as much as you have. This is why I explicitly stated you should get a jug. While your girl is by no means "drunk" after consuming the equivalent of 2 cans of beer over 1.5-2 hours, you want to make sure she feels shes drunk enough to give her plausible deniability to fuck you for later, especially considering how you're going to pull her back to your place in the suburbs. If you order drinks separate glasses however, she will stop drinking when you do and not be down to order another just for her.
Step 8: Do NOT kiss her at the venue. As per Tuthmosis's first date bang recipe, you need to give her plausible deniability for later.
Step 9: When the time is right, tell her "let's get out of here". I personally find the best time with most girls to be the 90 minute mark. Sometimes with shy girls you'll want an extra half an hour though to properly warm up and get her out of her shell. At this point she will assume you're trying to take her to another bar.
Step 10: Leave the bar, then stop out the front for a moment. "Hmmm, I don't really know any other good places open at this time..." Let that hang for a moment. "Damn it's cold", rub your arms for warmth then non-chalantly say: "Why don't we hang out at my place? It's not far, and I have alcohol/*insert-bait-here*. I'll drop you home after". Downplay the distance to yours if she brings that up, mention how there's no traffic late on a weeknight. When you invite a girl home and you haven't even kissed her yet, she will be thinking you just want to makeout at your place, in privacy. Since most guys don't even try to fuck girls on the first date, this is what she will think UNLESS you kissed her at the bar, in which case she will think you want to go back to yours to escalate further, which means sex. Needless to say this trigger her "anti-slut defense". Secondly you have only asked her this once you are already outside the bar. If you invite her to hang out at your place while still in the bar, the chances of her suggesting another bar instead are significantly lower. From her perspective: it has only been 1.5-2 hours so unless she doesn't like you she will want to continue the date. She is feeling a little cold, and does not feel like spending ages deciding on then walking to another bar. She wants to kiss you, and knows at your place you will have the privacy to do this, since she doesn't like kissing in public. This will lead her to make a snap decision to go with the flow and follow your lead to go home with you. This move almost always work for me now, but it takes a little practice and a healthy dose of finesse to master, which is why I cautioned beginners at the start of this sheet.
Step 11: Drive her to yours, play some chill music at a background noise volume from your iPod and make small talk. I make a playlist on iPod in advance with tracks like the ones in this sheet, and just play it from the car stereo with a male-male stereo jack. They key here is to soothe the kitty and keep it comfortable, because she will be feeling jittery on the drive, logically going over her decision to go home with someone on the first date.
Step 12: Get to yours, make her a drink, and take her on a tour ending at your bedroom. If you used "bait" to bring her back, make sure it is in there (this is why pets generally don't make reliable bait). Sit on your bed, or a comfortable couch big enough to fuck on. Make sure the lights are dim, the best way to do so is to turn on a lamp and have facing down and completely away from you. Talk and drink for at least 10 minutes, let her become comfortable with her surroundings.
Step 13: When you finish your drinks, put your glasses down and go for the makeout. If she refuses, pull back and relax like it's not big deal, and try again in another 5 mins. Rinse and repeat. Once you're kissing, escalate slowly from there unless she's practically taking her clothes off. Go from kissing sitting up, to laying down on top of her, to kissing her neck. Feel her body, rub her pussy with your forearm while feeling her legs. Grab her ass. Slip your hand down the back of her panties to grab her naked ass, then probe deeper and start fingering from from behind for a few minutes. Then, unbutton her pants with other hand while fingering. Tell her your hand hurts and you want to finger from the front, then pull her pants and panties off with one smooth motion (unless she's wearing a dress of course) and keep fingering. Kiss the top of her breasts then pull her top down to pop her tits and suck on her nipples. Tell her to take her top off, take your clothes off as she does. Ask her "do you want me to get a condom?", even if she doesn't care about using condoms, she will say yes.
What if you live with your parents?
Dealing with this is easier than you think. You need to make sure your parents are asleep when you bring her back home. Since you meet your girl at 10 past 9, walk to the bar, spend 1.5-2 hours there than have a half hour drive back to your place, it will be at least 11:15 PM by the time you get her back home and they will be asleep. On week nights my parents for example are always in bed by 10, 10:30 max. Hopefully, your room isn't literally next door to there's. Ideally your bedroom is like mine is at home, diagonally across from theirs. If it's too close though, just bang her on your couch. A lot of guys will never think of trying this, but in reality it's quite easy as long as they're asleep in time and you know how to get in without making too much noise. If you usually park in the garage, park out front on the street instead, remind your girl to be quiet, tip-toe around and keep your voices down. Remember to avoid spanking during sex.
Getting girls to agree to go back to yours knowing your living with your parents is easy since you're still probably young if you live with them and therefore she likely is too. If the girl is in her mid 20's or older then perhaps this is a different story... The key to getting girls to agree to this is to casually mention during the date that your parents are really cool and don't give a fuck about anything, and they've always let you do whatever even when you were in high school etc. When you get back to yours, remind her that while your parents won't care if she's here they're asleep so we should keep quiet to not wake them up.
If for whatever reason you live with your parents but definitely cannot pull to home then your only options are to give up on fast sex or leave. No amount of planning and skill can fix an impossible situation.
Target Selection:
Due to the effort this routine requires, I usually don't bother trying to get the 1st date bang if she doesn't seem easy. If I think she will take 3 dates or more to bang, I save this routine for the second date (even with the most prudish girls I always go for the bang by date 2 even if I think I won't get it). Most girls however are slutty and with experience and internet stalker skills (thank you Facebook graph and reverse image searches) it's pretty easy to tell. For some reason I tend to attract girls who are either very slutty or the total opposite (thankfully much more of the former than the latter) with few "normal" girls, so this is easier for me than it might be for other guys.
Conclusion:
If you apply this system as outlined, on all but the prudish girls, you will succeed in taking your girl home the vast majority of the time. The key mistakes to avoid are kissing her at the venue, and inviting her back to yours whilst still inside the venue. Do not assume however that just by getting her home you have the bang in the bag. Even with tight "end-game" my bang rate from when I get them on my bed is lower then my pull rate from the bar to the suburbs, I see that as a testament to how well the system works.
Tuthmosis wrote the book on getting first date bangs, which I completely endorse. Unfortunately however, most guys aren't able to walk a girl back to their place from a cool bar around the corner. This datasheet is for guys who either live in the suburbs or have to spend time there during summer's home from college, but still want a reliable system to score first date bangs.
You Will Need:
A place in the suburbs (obviously)
Access to a car
Decent Game (I cannot guarantee that this system will work for you if you're a beginner)
1 cute, non-prude girl
1 chill, intimate bar
A free weeknight
Step 1: Tell your chosen girl to meet you in the nearest nightlife area to you on a weeknight, ideally during Tuesday to Thursday. You want to avoid weekend first dates so to leave them free to approach, and because she's more likely to busy. You need to pick an area with decent public transport links, pick an area that makes it unlikely she will drive to your date. To be safe, it is best pick your city centre unless that is too far a drive from you, rather then risking picking another nightlife zone which is harder to get to by public transport. I always tell girls to meet me at a major public square directly opposite my city's hub train station which every train in the network terminates at.
Step 2: Pick a chill, intimate bar in this area. You want something that is not crowded on weeknights, and has a good layout. Ideally so that you and your date can sit next to each other on a couch or in a booth.
Step 3: Drive to the bar and park nearby. Then walk to where your supposed to meet your girl. Aim to be 5-10 minutes late. I prefer to meet girls in a big public meeting place rather than at the bar, I generally don't actually pick which one of my date bars I'm actually taking her to until I'm already on the way.
Step 4: Meet and greet (I like to do a spin hug). I always tell girls to meet me at 9PM, I would not tell a girl to meet me any earlier than 8 under any circumstances. Mention you were running late so you had to drive instead of taking the train like she would've assumed you had. Walk her to the bar you chose in step 3.
Step 5: Grab a jug of beer/cider/cocktail's (beware: cocktails run the risk of being mixed weak) and sit down next to each other in a couch/booth where you can enjoy the feeling of privacy. Run your first date game for 1.5-2 hours. Remember to do some light "kino", especially in the second hour. Touching her, arm, shoulder or the back of her to emphasis points, touching legs and so forth.
Step 6: Plant a little bait about your house. Maybe you can make a mean cocktail like Tuth does, or you have a cute pet or a guitar you can play. Even if you don't have good bait, make sure you talk about your living situation a little bit to prime her for what she'll later be getting into. Be vague about where it is unless it's a 15 minute or less drive, but be honest about whether you live with your parents, have a roommate etc. You don't want her to be asking questions about your living situation after you invite her back to your place, once you start trying to persuade her in a logical manner you're finished.
Step 7: When you finish your first glass, tell her you "probably shouldn't drink anymore" since you had to drive. This is key so you don't inadvertently land yourself a DUI. Where I live a "jug" alcohol usually contains about 3 full "pots" of alcohol, which is roughly the same amount of liquid as a can of beer. Your girl will then finish off the remaining pots worth of alcohol, meaning she's drunk twice as much as you have. This is why I explicitly stated you should get a jug. While your girl is by no means "drunk" after consuming the equivalent of 2 cans of beer over 1.5-2 hours, you want to make sure she feels shes drunk enough to give her plausible deniability to fuck you for later, especially considering how you're going to pull her back to your place in the suburbs. If you order drinks separate glasses however, she will stop drinking when you do and not be down to order another just for her.
Step 8: Do NOT kiss her at the venue. As per Tuthmosis's first date bang recipe, you need to give her plausible deniability for later.
Step 9: When the time is right, tell her "let's get out of here". I personally find the best time with most girls to be the 90 minute mark. Sometimes with shy girls you'll want an extra half an hour though to properly warm up and get her out of her shell. At this point she will assume you're trying to take her to another bar.
Step 10: Leave the bar, then stop out the front for a moment. "Hmmm, I don't really know any other good places open at this time..." Let that hang for a moment. "Damn it's cold", rub your arms for warmth then non-chalantly say: "Why don't we hang out at my place? It's not far, and I have alcohol/*insert-bait-here*. I'll drop you home after". Downplay the distance to yours if she brings that up, mention how there's no traffic late on a weeknight. When you invite a girl home and you haven't even kissed her yet, she will be thinking you just want to makeout at your place, in privacy. Since most guys don't even try to fuck girls on the first date, this is what she will think UNLESS you kissed her at the bar, in which case she will think you want to go back to yours to escalate further, which means sex. Needless to say this trigger her "anti-slut defense". Secondly you have only asked her this once you are already outside the bar. If you invite her to hang out at your place while still in the bar, the chances of her suggesting another bar instead are significantly lower. From her perspective: it has only been 1.5-2 hours so unless she doesn't like you she will want to continue the date. She is feeling a little cold, and does not feel like spending ages deciding on then walking to another bar. She wants to kiss you, and knows at your place you will have the privacy to do this, since she doesn't like kissing in public. This will lead her to make a snap decision to go with the flow and follow your lead to go home with you. This move almost always work for me now, but it takes a little practice and a healthy dose of finesse to master, which is why I cautioned beginners at the start of this sheet.
Step 11: Drive her to yours, play some chill music at a background noise volume from your iPod and make small talk. I make a playlist on iPod in advance with tracks like the ones in this sheet, and just play it from the car stereo with a male-male stereo jack. They key here is to soothe the kitty and keep it comfortable, because she will be feeling jittery on the drive, logically going over her decision to go home with someone on the first date.
Step 12: Get to yours, make her a drink, and take her on a tour ending at your bedroom. If you used "bait" to bring her back, make sure it is in there (this is why pets generally don't make reliable bait). Sit on your bed, or a comfortable couch big enough to fuck on. Make sure the lights are dim, the best way to do so is to turn on a lamp and have facing down and completely away from you. Talk and drink for at least 10 minutes, let her become comfortable with her surroundings.
Step 13: When you finish your drinks, put your glasses down and go for the makeout. If she refuses, pull back and relax like it's not big deal, and try again in another 5 mins. Rinse and repeat. Once you're kissing, escalate slowly from there unless she's practically taking her clothes off. Go from kissing sitting up, to laying down on top of her, to kissing her neck. Feel her body, rub her pussy with your forearm while feeling her legs. Grab her ass. Slip your hand down the back of her panties to grab her naked ass, then probe deeper and start fingering from from behind for a few minutes. Then, unbutton her pants with other hand while fingering. Tell her your hand hurts and you want to finger from the front, then pull her pants and panties off with one smooth motion (unless she's wearing a dress of course) and keep fingering. Kiss the top of her breasts then pull her top down to pop her tits and suck on her nipples. Tell her to take her top off, take your clothes off as she does. Ask her "do you want me to get a condom?", even if she doesn't care about using condoms, she will say yes.
What if you live with your parents?
Dealing with this is easier than you think. You need to make sure your parents are asleep when you bring her back home. Since you meet your girl at 10 past 9, walk to the bar, spend 1.5-2 hours there than have a half hour drive back to your place, it will be at least 11:15 PM by the time you get her back home and they will be asleep. On week nights my parents for example are always in bed by 10, 10:30 max. Hopefully, your room isn't literally next door to there's. Ideally your bedroom is like mine is at home, diagonally across from theirs. If it's too close though, just bang her on your couch. A lot of guys will never think of trying this, but in reality it's quite easy as long as they're asleep in time and you know how to get in without making too much noise. If you usually park in the garage, park out front on the street instead, remind your girl to be quiet, tip-toe around and keep your voices down. Remember to avoid spanking during sex.
Getting girls to agree to go back to yours knowing your living with your parents is easy since you're still probably young if you live with them and therefore she likely is too. If the girl is in her mid 20's or older then perhaps this is a different story... The key to getting girls to agree to this is to casually mention during the date that your parents are really cool and don't give a fuck about anything, and they've always let you do whatever even when you were in high school etc. When you get back to yours, remind her that while your parents won't care if she's here they're asleep so we should keep quiet to not wake them up.
If for whatever reason you live with your parents but definitely cannot pull to home then your only options are to give up on fast sex or leave. No amount of planning and skill can fix an impossible situation.
Target Selection:
Due to the effort this routine requires, I usually don't bother trying to get the 1st date bang if she doesn't seem easy. If I think she will take 3 dates or more to bang, I save this routine for the second date (even with the most prudish girls I always go for the bang by date 2 even if I think I won't get it). Most girls however are slutty and with experience and internet stalker skills (thank you Facebook graph and reverse image searches) it's pretty easy to tell. For some reason I tend to attract girls who are either very slutty or the total opposite (thankfully much more of the former than the latter) with few "normal" girls, so this is easier for me than it might be for other guys.
Conclusion:
If you apply this system as outlined, on all but the prudish girls, you will succeed in taking your girl home the vast majority of the time. The key mistakes to avoid are kissing her at the venue, and inviting her back to yours whilst still inside the venue. Do not assume however that just by getting her home you have the bang in the bag. Even with tight "end-game" my bang rate from when I get them on my bed is lower then my pull rate from the bar to the suburbs, I see that as a testament to how well the system works.