[horn]

(09-11-2014 03:56 AM)Deluge Wrote:  


Y'all need to get yourselves some real cities

NYC has over 750 subway miles, 2/3s of residents use it [many walk to work], and is busier than just about anywhere outside Tokyo, Beijing, Seoul, and Shanghai.

Last year 1.71 billion rideres took the NYC subway.

Virtually all stations are 24/7/365.

This does not include the 4 rail systems that connect to it. Nor the buses, obviously.

[Deluge]

^ you entirely missed the point

[legend44k]

how do you use facebook graph and reverse image to tell if theyre a slut?

[MMM]

I live and work in the burbs but can't bring girls home. So I tell them I'm kidnapping them and take them to a motel. I don't apologize for the sketch factor, I just tell them I'm getting us a room. Haven't had a complaint yet. I like the look of shame and desire in their eyes when I pull into the motel parking lot. You can see the hamster running. Priceless.

[Deluge]

(09-14-2014 11:45 PM)legend44k Wrote:  

how do you use facebook graph and reverse image to tell if theyre a slut?

It's pretty easy to tell if you can see enough of her Facebook pictures, and you can find almost anyone with the graph search if you know enough about them. Reverse image searching her profile pictures will often bring up their Instagram, Twitter, Tumblr etc which makes it even easier.

[Que enspastic]

Why do you live in the suburbs ?

[Deluge]

You know how high rents are here in the inner city these days man? We've been going through a real estate boom again since you've left, prices going up 10-15% p.a again like it was pre-GFC. Even if you share an apartment, paying ~$12k a year just on rent is impossible on a part time student income unless you come from wealth, even more impossible if you're saving to travel. I'm not that far out, I can live with a 20 minute drive to nightlife until I graduate.

[Fortis]

Great data sheet. This has a lot of potential for the new jersey area. Unless you live in Jersey City, Hoboken, or Morristown you're dealing with the clusterfuck that is suburban sprawl and no public transit. Shit is set up to get you a DUI and keep you forever alone.

I was wondering how you might swing this if you live in a spot where it's not uncommon that a lot of the girls you meet online and even in day game live like 5-10 miles away? Just sorta set something up in their down and try to pull them back to their place?

[Sourcecode]

I dont know for sure...But could this work in DC

Considering DC has a metro.
And if im not wrong.. It goes to the suburbs in some way or another...

Can DC players rejoice?
Or do they have to ride their bikes home from the bar still

[tallandblonde]

(09-21-2014 06:38 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

Great data sheet. This has a lot of potential for the new jersey area. Unless you live in Jersey City, Hoboken, or Morristown you're dealing with the clusterfuck that is suburban sprawl and no public transit. Shit is set up to get you a DUI and keep you forever alone.

I was wondering how you might swing this if you live in a spot where it's not uncommon that a lot of the girls you meet online and even in day game live like 5-10 miles away? Just sorta set something up in their down and try to pull them back to their place?

That's what I've been doing. Currently living with the parents until I move else where in a couple months. I'm about 10 miles outside the city, and most of the people I match with/go on dates with are inside of it. I tend to meet up with them to do some various activity, and then either ask if they want to go back to their place or save that for date #2 if I want to make it a consistent thing.

[Sonsowey]

Pro tip: Girls like banging in cars

[jamaicabound]

Hey, great topic. It's funny how on TV and movies with bringing chicks home the guy always just happens to live right above a bar or something like that. LIke this post says many of us live in the burbs where logistics are tough in terms of location. I do most of my dating with online dating and though I can look within a certain geographic area it just so happens that most of the women I hookup with happen to live 30-45 minutes away so oftentimes its meeting somewhere in the middle. Heck even if the women is just a suburb or two over that can often mean a 30 minute drive which doesn't play well for taking a chick home, if she has to follow in her car gives her too much time to question things.

Maybe it's diff in diff areas but any girl in the CHicagoland suburbs who is gonna meet you out is going to be driving as well not taking public transportation. I've tried to do the pick the chick up thing but honestly with all the scares about stranger danger and online dating these days most chicks don't want a guy they don't know to know where they live. I offer to pick them up soemtimes but most girls decline and if I talk to them enough to get to know them it seems most girls have had an online dating horror story with some minor stalking lol so alot of girsl take the dont share too much info until you know the guys not a freak tactic. Heck my current girl was one who was hesitant to even meet me in public for a drink because of a bad experience wanted to do a lot of back and forth texting and online before meeting. IN hte end our first meetup was at my place at 5am one night picked her up at her house but this was weeks in the works.

Here's my best tactic. Find a local waterhole, doesn't matter if it's a cool spot or not, mine is actually a hole in the wall bar, not really a cool place like wood panel walls, kind of dark, sorta a sports bar but more neighborhood bar than sports bar. Most people hanging out there are like 50+ year old men. The point is it doesn't have to be a hip spot, but I like my spot because I'm cool with the bartenders who happen to all be female. They know me when I walk in, tend to hook me up with drinks, are friendly and chatty with me and whomever I'm with. Basically I think it builds in a trust factor, okay this guy isn't a creep, this bartender lady knows him and seems to think he's a nice enough guy. HEck alot of times the bartenders when I go to the bathroom will talk me up to my date if we happen to be sitting at the bar. They also never call me out or make it awkward that I take a lot of dates there. This is a good quiet get to know you drink type place, it's also close to my home so I can close easily and if they do ride back with me I only have to drive them back to their car at the bar and not all the way home. I have a pretty cool bar district in my town but a good 20 min across town so not great for logistics.

I never really liked the idea of picking a chick up, especially when they live far. I gotta drive 30 min to get them, then to a location near my house, bring them home after a few drinks, fuck, I wanna go to bed last thing I wanna do is get dressed and have to drive them 30 min back home and then a 30 min drive back home for myself at the end of the night when I'm tired and just nutted and am just ready for bed.

[horn]

(09-22-2014 11:02 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

Pro tip: Girls like banging in cars

This is also true. One of my coworker buddies who lives in the suburbs was drinking with a bunch of us in the city and some girl he met like a week earlier, he wasn't going to drive home and then drive her home, so he took her to his car and said that, followed by 'Let's bang here' and she was DTF.

After she hopped in a cab and he drove home. Simple.

sometimes the basics are best.

[jamaicabound]

(09-22-2014 06:35 PM)horn Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:02 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

Pro tip: Girls like banging in cars

This is also true. One of my coworker buddies who lives in the suburbs was drinking with a bunch of us in the city and some girl he met like a week earlier, he wasn't going to drive home and then drive her home, so he took her to his car and said that, followed by 'Let's bang here' and she was DTF.

After she hopped in a cab and he drove home. Simple.

sometimes the basics are best.

I'd say some chicks love it, love the riskyness of it and the voyueristic aspect while others will think it's trashy. I'll take a car bang but really like to be able to really get into things, stretch out, not have to worry about getting arrested, etc. Recently hooked up with a Craigslist chick, young chick like 18 or 19, was sleeping over a her gf's house had me pick her up down the street, smoked some weed and fucked in the car. This chick was a solid 9, tight petite little latina chick. Really would have liked to have her back at my house where we could really get into things, swap positions, etc but instead was in a cramped car in front of someone's house in a nice neighborhood just waiting for the cops to roll up couldn't really enjoy myself.

[Deluge]

(09-21-2014 06:38 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

I was wondering how you might swing this if you live in a spot where it's not uncommon that a lot of the girls you meet online and even in day game live like 5-10 miles away? Just sorta set something up in their down and try to pull them back to their place?

Go back and follow the steps in the sheet, all the answers you need are in there.

[tonipepperoni]

You could quite easily live in the inner city suburbs with enough street-smarts.. and Youth Allowance..

That's pretty what my best friend did, he budgeted out 170 dollars a week in rent and found a share house (inflation adjusted).

Living in the suburbs is going to do you a huge disservice when it comes to meeting women.

[horn]

(09-22-2014 08:19 PM)jamaicabound Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 06:35 PM)horn Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:02 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

Pro tip: Girls like banging in cars

This is also true. One of my coworker buddies who lives in the suburbs was drinking with a bunch of us in the city and some girl he met like a week earlier, he wasn't going to drive home and then drive her home, so he took her to his car and said that, followed by 'Let's bang here' and she was DTF.

After she hopped in a cab and he drove home. Simple.

sometimes the basics are best.

I'd say some chicks love it, love the riskyness of it and the voyueristic aspect while others will think it's trashy. I'll take a car bang but really like to be able to really get into things, stretch out, not have to worry about getting arrested, etc. Recently hooked up with a Craigslist chick, young chick like 18 or 19, was sleeping over a her gf's house had me pick her up down the street, smoked some weed and fucked in the car. This chick was a solid 9, tight petite little latina chick. Really would have liked to have her back at my house where we could really get into things, swap positions, etc but instead was in a cramped car in front of someone's house in a nice neighborhood just waiting for the cops to roll up couldn't really enjoy myself.

right, agreed, I think the point was if you can't pull her from city to suburbs.

Also, once she's banged you, she is wayyy more likely to come to your pad for the next bang.

[Deluge]

Banging a girl for the 1st time in your backseat is not something I would do. I do like to pull to the backseat of my car parked outside house parties though if no bedroom's available, and if I can't sleep over inside the house I can just sleep in my car.

For dates though just drive her back to your place, tt's way easier to get them to come then you'd think if you follow my steps exactly. I've never done it, but telling a girl on the 1st date that you want to park somewhere secluded for no obvious reason but to bang would likely set off her anti-slut defense.

[jamaicabound]

(09-23-2014 08:38 PM)horn Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 08:19 PM)jamaicabound Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 06:35 PM)horn Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 11:02 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

Pro tip: Girls like banging in cars

This is also true. One of my coworker buddies who lives in the suburbs was drinking with a bunch of us in the city and some girl he met like a week earlier, he wasn't going to drive home and then drive her home, so he took her to his car and said that, followed by 'Let's bang here' and she was DTF.

After she hopped in a cab and he drove home. Simple.

sometimes the basics are best.

I'd say some chicks love it, love the riskyness of it and the voyueristic aspect while others will think it's trashy. I'll take a car bang but really like to be able to really get into things, stretch out, not have to worry about getting arrested, etc. Recently hooked up with a Craigslist chick, young chick like 18 or 19, was sleeping over a her gf's house had me pick her up down the street, smoked some weed and fucked in the car. This chick was a solid 9, tight petite little latina chick. Really would have liked to have her back at my house where we could really get into things, swap positions, etc but instead was in a cramped car in front of someone's house in a nice neighborhood just waiting for the cops to roll up couldn't really enjoy myself.

right, agreed, I think the point was if you can't pull her from city to suburbs.

Also, once she's banged you, she is wayyy more likely to come to your pad for the next bang.

You bring up a very interesting point. Many of the girls I meet on dating sites live in the city, many of the hottest girls are in the city. Many people in the city guys and girls I think have kind of an aversion to dating someone from the burbs. Even though it's not that far with traffic and the commute it's just a hassle. This is where I would often run into problems. It's not as simple as when your both in the city hop a cab, take the pink line, etc. Most people in the city don't have cars so it's either me driving into the city and I'm away from my pad and homebase and way too far to pull her back to mine and can't really force an invite for me to her place. The only other option is having a girl take the train out to the burbs, I pick her up at the train station 10 min from my house and then drop her back off for train. Only problem is train only runs to burbs until about midnight so you have to have them back by then or they are staying til the morning. Secondly, many girls for a first date or someone they don't know isnt going to want to take a train to the burbs, be an hour away from home with no transportation and be reliant on a stranger essentially

[RexImperator]

Gaming in the suburbs can be a real downer. You really have to be on point 100% of the time and grab every possible opportunity, because they are rare. I went about my errands yesterday and stopped in a couple of coffee shops and didn't find any girls to approach. Felt like a waste of time. I can see why online game becomes the most viable option.

Part of it may be seasonal. Perhaps it's not cold enough to get people in the coffee shops yet, and its too early yet for the malls.

[horn]

First date is obviously hard, second date is much easier esp if you've correctly run comfort game.

I've had renovations done on my place in town, but have pulled 3 college girls out to the burbs to my corp apt recently.

19, 20, 21. Obviously at some point I had to drive them back. The youngest one was so apologetic I had to drive her home, lol. Now that's a sweet, feminine girl.

[reco2100]

I have to tip my hat to the OP on this thread. It got me laid last night with difficult logistics. My story should be kind of interesting. I was meeting this cute little cubana 26 YO last night. I am 52 so she is very new to online dating and never dated anyone near my age. She appeared to be very warm but very shy. And not have a lot of experience.

I set up a hotel on the beach really nice place and planned to meet her at a local bar for drinks near by. About a mile away. We met she was a little late but said she got lost. Anyway we had a great time about two hours into it, things are escalating nicely. I could tell she wanted the kiss but I did not give it to her. There was lots of touching by both and the eye fucking was intense. Lots of laughing and sexy talk also. Played the questions game and the strawberry game she loved them.

Anyway I said lets get out of here. She did not ask where we were going. I got the check. And as soon as we stood up she grabbed my arm. Very good sign. We walked outside and I said. Hmmm...not a good place nearby (even though there were many) and I said lets go to the (hotel name) there is a great bar there and a great view. This was true the hotel was on the beach and last night was an incredible harvest moon. By the way I am setting my calendar by this time of year as a great assist from the full bright moon on the water lol.

She kind of asks as we are walking and I just say we can go in my car or you can follow me, we will just go in my car. She says ok and off we go. Get to the hotel bar order another drink. We are touching and drinking and laughing, and then she goes to the bathroom. When she comes out she gives me this little speech about how she does not want to move too fast and to let things develop and I agree completely. Evidently her forebrain kicked in while in the bano. Then continue to game her. Still have not kissed her yet. But she starts saying she has to go home. She drove almost an hour to meet me. So I figured getting her to the hotel room is not likely. But I suggest a walk on the hotel patio.

This hotel is beautiful high rise on a private beach and the moon and this beautiful breeze could make a woman's panties fall off by itself. Anyway there is no one out there it is a large area with all of these nice outdoor furnishings. I start making out and it is intense. Kissing, feeling her up and really getting hot and heavy. Then I moved her to one of the couches. And started escalating through her LMR. Push pull, push pull, for about 45 minutes. She would stop me and tell me that next time she will go to my hotel room. So she was already moving up the timetable, she had previously been talking about a long friendship before anything happened. Now she was ready for the second date. lol

So I kept working her. Then when I would stop she would come to me. One time she spreads her legs and shows me she has no underwear on and reveals the prettiest little pink pussy in the moonlight. Couple of more rounds and my hands are buried in her little pussy in this public patio where people could come up anytime. But no one ever did. I make her come fingering her. And she is now stroking my cock vigorously. I then pull it out and tell her to get on. She complies immediately and fucks me raw dog, pulling out just in time. It was an intensely sexy and awesome experience. I then drove her back to her car. And I am ready to meet her again next week. She should fit nicely in my rotation when I go down to Miami.

Thanks again brother. Your advice works.

[The Wire]

Well played reco2100

[Vincent Chase]

I've done this dozens of times if not a sort of variation of this.

I disagree on meeting late on though. Especially in the winter months you should aim to meet earlier say 7:30 or 8. The reason for this is that in the scenario above you'd get the girl to your place by 10:30pm and she'll want to leave because it's "getting late" especially so when doing this on a school night. You're chancing having enough time for anything to happen. You want to meet her when darkness falls, but not too late. I do usually find it takes 3 hours or so on average to bang a girl on a first date when meeting at cocktail bar.

Secondly regarding transport you can always use a taxi or Uber if not driving and it will allow you to drink. It feels spontaneous to the girl and can add to her excitement. Do not use public transport (unless it's something sexy like a San Francisco tram) it will kill the attraction.

What you're explaining here is very similar to RSD Jeffy's technique of driving to the bar, saying "let's go" walking back to the car. If you build enough comfort and attraction it will work most of the time.

[CanadianCocaCola]

Lots of good info on here so far. Long time reader first time poster. I've been practicing game for about 5 years now and just moved to the US for work. Back home, I grew up in the suburbs (30 minute drive from dt) before moving out in a condo right in the city center, so I had to deal with this problem as well for a few years.

When I first got into game I always thought it was a deal breaker and big hinderance to my chances of closing. While the latter part of that may be slightly true, I was able to rake in closes using a few simple techniques.

For starters, if the chick I'm meeting has a car, I would get them to meet me at my place and then we would head out together in my car. Most of them had never been in that area before (since I would usually meet them in clubs downtown) so it was an adventure type date where we would explore the area together. Go down to the water and skip rocks, then head to this cool spot that played live music (usually jazz) while we sat on the terrace and enjoyed some drinks. Naturally, at the end we would end up back at my place and we head inside for me to show her whatever I seeded earlier during the date.

For ones that didn't have cars, I would meet them near their place with the goal of ended up at their place and then proceed to go for the close there.

If you get a chick that lives in a place where closing her is unlikely (i.e. lives with parents), you can still get the notch by being creative. Have her meet you near a park, pick up some wine/alcohol and cups together, and head to the park for some drinking and more.

I've also had the luxury of being able to use the guest bedroom in one of my buddies places.

There are many ways to be successful by thinking outside the box sometimes.