[arribaperro]

(07-07-2014 12:46 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

Got to say I now feel a little sorry for this dude. He had a limp dick and a failed business. He probably felt like he lost everything when she left. Furthermore, lets be honest: a beta like this dude was probably never going to get a hot piece of ass like her ever again.

Let this be a lesson: Don't put pussy on a pedestal...and a women is only as faithful as her options.

Stern's business problems may have caused early stress induced erectile dysfunction.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/112046.php
"1 In 10 Men Suffer From Erectile Dysfunction Due To Work Related Stress"

http://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitnes...x-20130715
"A new study found that one in four men seeking medical help for erectile dysfunction is under 40"

[Kingsley Davis]

(07-07-2014 02:07 AM)arribaperro Wrote:  

(07-07-2014 12:46 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

Got to say I now feel a little sorry for this dude. He had a limp dick and a failed business. He probably felt like he lost everything when she left. Furthermore, lets be honest: a beta like this dude was probably never going to get a hot piece of ass like her ever again.

Let this be a lesson: Don't put pussy on a pedestal...and a women is only as faithful as her options.

Stern's business problems may have caused early stress induced erectile dysfunction.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/112046.php
"1 In 10 Men Suffer From Erectile Dysfunction Due To Work Related Stress"

http://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitnes...x-20130715
"A new study found that one in four men seeking medical help for erectile dysfunction is under 40"

One in four men under 40 need some new pussy.

[RexImperator]

[Quintus Curtius]

Overall, I think the overriding problem here was this guy himself. I don't really see this woman as being any more or less conniving or devious than any other beautiful woman. Her selfish, domineering, and entitled behavior is about what you would expect. He should have known what he was getting.

Of course, a more nurturing, caring type would have been just the ticket for this poor soul. He was so wound up with "performing" like a organ-grinder monkey for everyone: in his work, job, home, office, whatever. He had no identity of his own. He was a slave to what others thought of him.

He was empty inside because his entire life was focused on false status, on collecting trophies, and on impressing everyone around him. Everyone but himself.

Because he could fool everyone but himself. At the end of the day, he had to look at himself in the mirror. And all he saw was a scared rat.

From looking at his eyes, his demeanor, and overall presentation, it's clear that he has some psychological problems. He is a deeply insecure, flawed person. Others have noted here that he likely was medicated. Or heavily medicated.

This should be another cautionary tale to us to remember that material things (women, money, cars, businesses, etc) can't fill the inner void that a man feels. Men are not mechanical contrivances.

We can't just be wound up and sent on our way like Energizer bunnies. To sustain us, we need something deeper, more profound, something that comes from within.

And this person never cultivated his own identity. His entire "identity" was built around his material possessions: his toys, his money, his useless trophy wife.

He who doesn't spend his time to develop his identity and inner strengths, but instead wastes his energy chasing Rolex watches, trophy wives, expensive cars, and other meaningless things, can expect nothing but pain and self-destruction.

And once his biggest trophy (his "wife") was pulled out from under him, he had no further reason to live. There are many men like this today, floating around, their chests puffed up with false arrogance, that one pinprick of hardship will deflate.

She was not the problem. Don't blame her. He was the problem.

It should be a lesson to us all.

[Fighting888]

(07-05-2014 12:10 AM)GenghisKhan Wrote:  

This dude is wealthy, educated, rich and very good looking.

His model wife is also a solid 9.5, and probably lived a different reality all her life because of her looks.

This has got to be the worst nightmare you could have. Leonardo DiCaprio and Adrian Grenier ("Vincent Chase") hooking up with your wife.


Source 1: http://therealsingapore.com/content/man-...-di-caprio

Source 2: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...annes.html

That guy was legit goodlooking too (no homo).

Could've found another woman.

[scorpion]

The girl is a hard 9 (touching 9.5 or even 10 depending on individual taste) with a strong personality and a desire to climb the social ladder. Women like that should come with a extreme bodily harm warning label, because they will fuck you up bad if you aren't careful. She is the equivalent of handing a 16 year old kid a bottle of Everclear and a Ferrari.

This guy was just in way over his head. He managed to get his hands on way more woman than he was capable of handling. And just like in any other area of life, when you get in over your head bad things usually happen.

Frankly, I don't see how any non-rich/famous guy in that Hollywood/L.A. area could feel comfortable getting married to a girl like this. There's so much money and fame there that they will be constantly exposed to, unless your game is airtight and you have at least a solid level of wealth/micro-fame it seems like just a matter of time until her hypergamy kicks in.

The more I learn and the more experience I get, the more I begin to think that ultimately the only reliable method for ensuring loyalty from a girl in a LTR is simply dating down 2 SMV points. If this guy had settled down with a loving 6 instead of barely landing this hard 9 he'd still be alive. The 6 would worship the ground he walked on, knowing full well that in a town overflowing with 8+ chicks she somehow landed a tall, good looking millionaire. But instead of doing that he let his dick do his thinking, which is a terrible idea when considering a wife.

[Bushido]

(07-08-2014 08:06 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

The more I learn and the more experience I get, the more I begin to think that ultimately the only reliable method for ensuring loyalty from a girl in a LTR is simply dating down 2 SMV points.

This.

It's not something that most PUA coaches will tell you, but it's true.

You fuck the 9s and marry the 7.

Girls who are top of the spectrum looks-wise rarely end up happy. A true 10 that wants to date up is going to have trouble doing so - there simply aren't enough DiCaprios and Clooneys to go round. Not to mention that a much higher % of hot girls are crazy.

[Fighting888]

Living in LA is a big mistake too. Too many alphas living in that city.

Though I think it depends how hot your woman is. Living in LA or Vegas with a 9+ woman is dangerous, as a celeb could easily
swoop in. Living in LA with a 6-7 is a lot safer, as celebs wouldn't notice them. Having to compete against a lot of other hot girls might mellow
the 6-7 out.

If I had a 9+ woman, I'd go somewhere with a low concentration of famous people and better values. So no LA, Vegas, NYC. Maybe a city like Portland or Salt Lake City, with a low
concentration of alphas and a less hypergamous culture.

[Fighting888]

and yes, it's important to raise your SMV high up too. So if you want to date a 7, you need to be a 9.

[Icarus]

(07-08-2014 08:06 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

The more I learn and the more experience I get, the more I begin to think that ultimately the only reliable method for ensuring loyalty from a girl in a LTR is simply dating down 2 SMV points.

Maybe in the U.S., because in Poland, Ukraine, or Russia a man can afford to date and marry up.

I once met a Polish HB9.5 who was much more beautiful than this Cleary chick, much younger, and she married a merely handsome Spanish engineer who had no money and no fame. Yet, he gave her lots of tingles.

Frankly, I don't understand how you guys can say this Cleary chick is a HB9+. She's 32, for fuck's sake!!! She's approaching obsolescence and infertility. In Russia, she would be a proto-babushka already! Any man would fuck her, but why would any man invest in her for the long term? Her MMV is a lot lower than her SMV.

[AnonymousBosch]

(07-07-2014 04:14 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

Man, when did DiCaprio turn into Jack Nicholson?

[Fighting888]

A lot of men are attracted to MILFs, so an older woman that looks good can command male attention.

I suppose the theory is that if a woman can maintain her looks past 30, she has good enough genetics to compensate
for her lower fertility. Which is why men like milfs.

[Icarus]

(07-08-2014 08:35 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

I suppose the theory is that if a woman can maintain her looks past 30, she has good enough genetics to compensate for her lower fertility.

"Good genes" encompasses more than just good looks. IQ also counts. And I mean IQ, not credentials.

If a man does not worry about a woman's IQ and invests in her just because she makes his dick hard, he risks having grandchildren or great-grandchildren with the IQ of a high-functioning baboon. If I am going to devote my life to trying to build a small empire, I want worthy successors.

Trophy wives can be a sort of Genetic Trojan Horse. At first, they look like gifts from heaven. Only a decade or two later do you realize how much you have contaminated your bloodline. And once looks fade, you have to put up with the wrinkling, sagging dumb cunt for the rest of your life...

[Fighting888]

Alright good point.

My point was that being 30+ isn't a deal killer if the girl is legitimately hot and MILFy.

but I think that she should have:

-High IQ
-Educational credentials, which are an indicator of future time orientation and her level of ambitiousness
-Sexual restraint (probably 3 cocks or less, with no 1 night stands)
-Parents have a good marriage of at least 30+ years
-Some religious values
-Agreeable personality
-Femininity
-Appreciation for a provider type, not bad boy alphas
-Good health
-Good with money
-Earning capability

I'd marry that, even if it were over 30.

[scorpion]

^^ Reads like the male version of the female online dating checklist. In the real world you're lucky to find a girl that checks half of those boxes.

[Fighting888]

(07-08-2014 09:39 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

^^ Reads like the male version of the female online dating checklist. In the real world you're lucky to find a girl that checks half of those boxes.

Not neccessarily. A lot of those traits correlate strongly together.

Such as IQ, educational credentials, coming from an intact family, earning capability, prudence, and good health. Though it gets trickier if you want a good personality and good values.

The median American female has had 3 cocks by her late 20s, by the way.

I wonder if Asian/Indian girls in America could offer some of those traits.

[Coldfire]

(07-08-2014 08:54 PM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

Alright good point.

My point was that being 30+ isn't a deal killer if the girl is legitimately hot and MILFy.

but I think that she should have:

-High IQ
-Educational credentials, which are an indicator of future time orientation and her level of ambitiousness
-Sexual restraint (probably 3 cocks or less, with no 1 night stands)
-Parents have a good marriage of at least 30+ years
-Some religious values
-Agreeable personality
-Femininity
-Appreciation for a provider type, not bad boy alphas
-Good health
-Good with money
-Earning capability

I'd marry that, even if it were over 30.

That's like going to Scotland and asking to ride the Loch Ness Monster

[Boot103]

We can learn from things like this. No matter what you always come before the girl. No matter what her looks are like.

Killing yourself is beta. Man up and deal with your depression! Its not like he cant find another 10 is it?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(07-08-2014 08:32 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 08:06 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

The more I learn and the more experience I get, the more I begin to think that ultimately the only reliable method for ensuring loyalty from a girl in a LTR is simply dating down 2 SMV points.

Maybe in the U.S., because in Poland, Ukraine, or Russia a man can afford to date and marry up.

I once met a Polish HB9.5 who was much more beautiful than this Cleary chick, much younger, and she married a merely handsome Spanish engineer who had no money and no fame. Yet, he gave her lots of tingles.

Frankly, I don't understand how you guys can say this Cleary chick is a HB9+. She's 32, for fuck's sake!!! She's approaching obsolescence and infertility. In Russia, she would be a proto-babushka already! Any man would fuck her, but why would any man invest in her for the long term? Her MMV is a lot lower than her SMV.

Attraction points are relative in every country. Poland has very favorable demographics and a handsome foreigner with a stable job who has some Game is enough for a decent girl - even model - from Poland. The Game part was likely the point, which pushed him over the top to get a hard 9.5. Plus - her notch-count was likely single digit - maybe even low single digits, as very pretty girls usually end up in LTRs more often than 6-7s. That engineer's relationship value is likely on par for her and if she is smart, she would know that it would be even higher in the future - hypergamy satisfied!

Doing that in LA with a model, who can party with Hollywood movie stars and has gone through US-style cock-carousel is a totally different story. The same Polish girl going through US highschool, college hook-up and Alpha-fucking in her 20s would be a different human being.

[corners]

percentage of men who suicide is about 15 times higher than percentage of women suiciding,
worldwide.

This is mainly because women have a strong large social support in society,
while men are expected to stay strong at all times, and whenever problems occur,
some men do not know what to do and they believe it is "honourable" to kill themselves... :/

[lalafufu]

(07-08-2014 08:32 PM)Icarus Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 08:06 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

The more I learn and the more experience I get, the more I begin to think that ultimately the only reliable method for ensuring loyalty from a girl in a LTR is simply dating down 2 SMV points.

Maybe in the U.S., because in Poland, Ukraine, or Russia a man can afford to date and marry up.

I once met a Polish HB9.5 who was much more beautiful than this Cleary chick, much younger, and she married a merely handsome Spanish engineer who had no money and no fame. Yet, he gave her lots of tingles.

Frankly, I don't understand how you guys can say this Cleary chick is a HB9+. She's 32, for fuck's sake!!! She's approaching obsolescence and infertility. In Russia, she would be a proto-babushka already! Any man would fuck her, but why would any man invest in her for the long term? Her MMV is a lot lower than her SMV.

8-8.5 to me

[Alan Partridge]

You guys really think she's a 9/10?

I think she's an 8. Great figure and in shape, but her face is too square and chin too pointy. Not feminine looking enough, imo.

[Alan Partridge]

And, LOL: marrying a model. Having one as a serious girlfriend is a questionable decision, let alone marrying her. They're almost all sluts. And mentally damaged.

[scorpion]

Calling this girl anything less than a hard 9 reeks of "internet male syndrome" (i.e. "pointy elbows, WNB!").

If your eyes aren't working properly for some reason, just remember the fact that this girl, at 32, was partying with DiCaprio (arguably the most eligible bachelor/playboy in the world). She has amazing genetics most likely augmented with some great plastic surgery.

He could party with any girl he wanted. Why would he waste time hanging out with an 8?

No, this girl is obviously a hard 9. She's in the highest tier where further attraction is decided solely on taste (i.e. blonde/brunette, exotic factor, etc...). Also, one of my personal criterion for a girl being a hard 9 is that she is hot enough to be pursued by the richest and most famous men in the world. This girl obviously meets that standard given her association with DiCaprio.

[Alan Partridge]

If her face was less edgy, she'd be a 9.5 in my book. Not saying she's a beast, obviously. She's hot. But not my ideal, facially speaking.