[Merenguero]

(11-26-2015 08:41 PM)Pyrrhic victory Wrote:  

why would you waste so much time writing this post ? You spent hours putting this together just to troll ?

Incredibly inefficient use of your time. You should have spent quality time washing your cat instead.

Which post are you talking about? The one O.P. made in June 2014 before his life drastically improved for the better, thanks, in part, to the forum?

[GlobalMan]

(11-26-2015 08:41 PM)Pyrrhic victory Wrote:  

why would you waste so much time writing this post ? You spent hours putting this together just to troll ?

Incredibly inefficient use of your time. You should have spent quality time washing your cat instead.

Other incredibly inefficient uses of time:

-responding to a thread you haven't bothered to read to know what you're talking about

[GlobalMan]

Just read the whole thread. At times I want to slap you, other times give you a high five. Absolutely amazing story.


-5'2", 3000 approaches, can't even begin to touch woman
-Down to $300 in China and willing to go for broke just to get any real girl
-Girl speaking in tongues on a hillside
-Banging Chinese cougar who gives envelopes of cash
-Puppies kidnapped
-Breakups
-Finding sex can become boring with the same woman

Talk about a wild ride, and complete turn around, man.

My already low tolerance for people lacking ambition and effort just got even lower. This man demonstrates to those that aren't getting results yet that if you truly desire something then nothing should stop you from trying whatever is necessary.

I hope guys who are doubting themselves read this thread.

[cascadecombo]

Pyrrhic Victory, Did you read any of this thread dude? You should spend less time washing your cat and actually learning what things are about before throwing out insults.

[thegreenman]

It feels kinda strange, being in the total opposite position I used to be in.

I used to go around hoping for contact with any girl I could find.. If any girl gave me even the slightest bit of attention, I latched onto it for dear life. Oh, of course, I knew that I "shouldn't" latch on - that if I latched on, it would come across as "needy" and might drive the girl away - so I would use all the game tricks to appear aloof and disinterested. But underneath it all, I was pouncing even if I saw the mere shadow of what might be a shot with a girl. Any girl at all. Pounce.

But in Thailand, we westerners get approached by 100+ women with varying degrees of involvement with the sex industry every day. Everything from massage girls calling out to give massages (most of which can be upgraded to a happy ending once inside) to go-go girls and bargirls to outright prostitutes and streetwalkers.

So I'm actually fending off advances. For the first time ever, I'm trying NOT to get attention from girls.

Now of course this isn't because my game suddenly got super-awesome. It always was But all kidding aside, every guy should at least visit a place like this, even if you don't believe in Pay-for-Play. I am personally quite turned off by it, but there's something about the ATMOSPHERE of being in a place rife with sex-work... it changes a person's way of thinking. It's shown me what it feels like to be the one in demand. To be the prize.

When 100 women a day are trying to get your attention, you're in the opposite position of what you're used to, and it shows you life from the other perspective. How it feels to be the one annoyed by having too many sexual advances, instead of the one frustrated by having none.

Thailand is the most extreme example. Other countries in Asia lay somewhere more towards the middle of the spectrum. China was like this, only way less intense, and the advances weren't overtly sexual or designed to get my money... So if you like the idea of Sexual Marketplace Role-Reversal, but can't stomach life in a giant open-air brothel, then I suggest heading to China or any other place in Asia besides Thailand. (Although I hear the small rural Thai towns are very conservative, and nothing like the big sex-tourist areas).

[thegreenman]

But I've actually got a new dilemma now... you see I'm the opposite of a city person. I'm a nature-lovin tree-hugger at heart, and the girl I'm living with lives right smack in the middle of Bangkok... by some studies, the world city with the least amount of greenspace per capita. I don't even know where the nearest tree is.


I want to get out, but I don't want to leave her. She's somewhat open to the idea of moving WITH me, but she would have to quit her new job.

I'm not sure if the reason why I like this girl is because we really are a superb match... or whether it's simply because she's the deepest relationship I've had so far, and it feels good to be "in a relationship." The Chinese rich girl from before wasn't really that intimate with me... we had sex, but she was emotionally guarded and a bit cold, and saw me as kind of a boy toy, a western trophy boyfriend. But the one I'm with now is much warmer, more open, more vulnerable, more.... umm... wifely. She's wife material. She's Filipina, just to give you an idea. She gives off the impression of being very loyal and devoted. She cooks for me almost every night. And she doesn't randomly "break up" with me at the drop of a hat just cuz she's "busy".

So I don't know whether I'm into HER... or whether I'm more into the relationship itself.

It's a dilemma, to be sure. But it's a GOOD dilemma. I much prefer this over agonizing about how to get a girl to look at me long enough to say hello.

I still talk to my buddies back in Baltimore. The ones who were single and frustrated are still single and frustrated. Still complaining about why no girl will talk to them. Nothing's changing for them. The feminist West is starving an entire generation of intimacy. Good luck to everyone who's still struggling over there. I won't forget what it was like.

[GlobalMan]

I don't think you should thinking about long term with this girl right now, and definitely not moving to another location with her. You are barely, what, 6 months to 1 year into your new found life? There is much more still to experience and learn. You've shown yourself you are capable of meeting and banging multiple women in different countries. The one you are with now is no unicorn, there are millions of her out there. Her quitting a job to go with you, that has potential to become a huge point resentment when things in the new location aren't going so great.

I say maybe move on to the Philippines if possible. There are multiple decent cities there with mountainous areas near by that would give you the outdoorsy fix you seem to need, and all the ass you could dream of, or another sweet girl if you want

Whatever you choose, keep up the progress, you're doing great.

[Jnx]

Oh god, reading the replies on the first page... I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. I'm in tears.

Do I need to read the thread or am I getting trolled into reading the thread?

edit: read page 12, looks like it's legit but the 1st page of responses, just lol

[Dalaran1991]

(11-27-2015 04:12 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

Her quitting a job to go with you, that has potential to become a huge point resentment when things in the new location aren't going so great.

Bingo. Wisdom here.

However I think there's benefits to letting the OP find out the hard way. He has definitely fail a lot before turning his life around, and he has a remarkable resilience. I think risking a first LTR can teach him a lot more than what we can write on the internet.

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I say maybe move on to the Philippines if possible. There are multiple decent cities there with mountainous areas near by that would give you the outdoorsy fix you seem to need, and all the ass you could dream of, or another sweet girl if you want

Whatever you choose, keep up the progress, you're doing great.

I was gonna say he's still playing easy mode since he's a blonde in Asia with the white god factor, but still it makes no sense going back to Western pussies hell hole now that you've got a taste of how things should be. Philippines is great, if OP can make a career move there why not?

[Cobra]

From having problems to having high class problems. Progress indeed!

[Giovonny]

This thread has helped me!

It has increased my confidence as a teacher/mentor!

I knew I could help this guy!

I knew my instincts were correct!

(06-10-2014 12:25 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I recommend that he go to SEA and get a few girlfriends.

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He needs to learn the art of sex.

It can't really be learned over the internet, it can't really be learned by talking about it.

It has to be experienced physically.

He needs a sex coach-girlfriend-lover-intimate companion who can instruct him.

I recommend he go somewhere where prostitution is legal.

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I'm glad he is going to China.

Location is everything in Game.

Actually, helping this guy was easy.

He's a decent looking, youngish, white guy.

Going to SEA was the obvious answer.

thread-36769...#pid751138

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Here are some other issues that might be less obvious:

(06-10-2014 12:25 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

This guy proves that "approaching girls" is only one small part of the sexual process.

After the approach, there is still conversation, maintaining conversation, texting/calling, more conversation, dating, escalating, closing, sex, etc.

There are many aspects to this process of getting sex.

We must be work on all of these aspects.

This thread was sensational, in part, because the OP did 3000 approaches without any results.

Like I said above, "approaching" is only one part of the sexual process. There are 5 or 6 other aspects which all must be improved simultaneously.

Approaching is not enough. Everyday, we must approach with increased confidence, style, passion, and awareness + be prepared for lively conversation in person, by text, and over the phone + get more experience and practice in dating, escalating, and closing.

It's a puzzle that we must put together, approaching is only one piece.

Work the entire puzzle, not just one piece.

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(06-23-2014 01:17 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Learning game can be a lonely road.

You might get some help here and there along the way but for the most part, you must preserver on your own, no one is going to save you, you must save yourself.

Tremendous self will and self motivation are required. Learning game requires so much effort, dedication, and toughness. It is not easy. Most of the time you will be alone. You will get knocked down and you will have to get up and keep going. Don't give up. This journey takes years.

And, believe me, the payoff and rewards are worth every second of the pain you will endure.

The rejections, the embarrassments, the failures, etc.

They are all worth it if you can just stay focused, stay tough, and stay the course.

This shit is not easy, for most of us

It's hard, for most of us.

You must accept that and embrace that.

It takes years of hard work.

You will be lonely, frustrated, etc.

Fuck it! Just keep going

Accept that it will be hard and do it anyways!

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(06-23-2014 01:17 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

We all get help on our homework, our taxes, our legal matters, our clothes, our exercise, our diet, etc.

Why not get help with your social skills???

Too many men are afraid to ask for help.

That's foolish pride or stupidity.

We all need help.

We get help it in business, taxes, money, exercise, fitness, muscle building, fat burning, fashion, etc.

Why not get help for your sex life?

This guy asked for it and he got it!

thread-36769...#pid762213

[Vice]

@thegreenman Have you been to the Philippines yet?

[Beyond Borders]

(11-26-2015 12:32 AM)thegreenman Wrote:  

Asia is fucking sweet.

Seriously, though...Epic thread.

Epic effort.

[scotian]

(11-27-2015 07:00 PM)Vice Wrote:  

@thegreenman Have you been to the Philippines yet?

In the OP he wrote that after going on Filipinocupid and pipelinging some Pinays, he took a flight over there in March of 2013, which is kind of crazy because I was just complaining on CS's recent Philippines thread about how I was in the country at that time and I didn't have anyone to hangout with, thegreenman you definitely should have gotten in touch with me while you were there, I would have met up with you for sure.!

I really have to check out the newbie threads more often as I just stumbled upon this one yesterday, it is one of the most epic threads on here and really is inspiring, good on the senior members for helping this guy out along the way and good on the OP for improving himself as he did. Thegreenman sounds like a pretty interesting guy who of no fault of his own, was brought up in an environment that almost guaranteed that's he's have trouble with women in the future, but good on him for doing something about it. Some of his adventures over the years sound pretty cool too, you've done a lot more than most guys out there, I'd buy the Ebook if it ever happens!

[Cyclone]

(11-26-2015 12:45 AM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(11-26-2015 12:32 AM)thegreenman Wrote:  

Hey fellas! I'm back!
I'm currently in Bangkok, living with a girl I met on OkCupid.
I'm up to my eyeballs in feminine contact.
I can hardly even BELIEVE I'm the person who wrote the OP in this thread. It seems almost like a different person.
Everything's different. I'm not angry anymore. I don't hate women anymore.
Asia is fucking sweet.

Thanks for the update. Don't take this this the wrong way, but I think the mere fact that you made a post that was only about seven lines long is a tell tale sign that you've made some serious progress.

That was fucking hilarious and easily the best post of this topic
.

[Travesty]

(06-06-2014 04:54 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

This could turn into the birth of Ultimate Player Champion Rising From The Ashes.

I predict ban or 200 rep points for a
miracle.

(06-06-2014 06:43 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

^ If this isn't a troll this guy may be the most famous newbie ever to come to RVF.

(06-06-2014 10:49 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

This could end up being a movie script seriously.

(06-06-2014 11:43 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

This guy's gonna be RVF's Captain Planet with all our powers combined.

Ok we need to group together and get this guy 200 rep points.

[ChickenLover9T9]

What an epic thread. Read it all. 3000 approaches and not one lay is incredible.

When you were with the Chinese girl, all I could think of was, kiss her, kiss her! They may be conservative but there are always "leaps of faith" and one of those is the first kiss. I can think of quite a few times where my escalation was clunky or near non-existent apart from a brief hug, but once we were in private I just took her waist gently and kissed her, it naturally escalates from there.

Starting on "easy mode" in the Phils, learning how to escalate on a good number of women, then going for slightly more difficult places (easier countries in SAm), gradually moving up until escalation is no longer a problem, not just with pinays who allow a hell of a lot of "mistakes" your average girl in the west would dump you for. Then again, if your preference is for kind, sweet, feminine pinays, and you are most content there, moving just for the sake of "improving game" might just be and ego based decision and not really beneficial at all. If on the other hand you have a sudden craving for latinas, or slavics, you might be persuaded to move. Heck even if the place is near perfect sometimes I get an annoying "itch" that I need to move. Its similar to what Roosh describes in some of his writings; he has a nice, feminine, beautiful girlfriend, or a few of them, in a nice city, everything is perfect, but he dumps all that to go to some industrial EE shithole and chase new tail. It's an unhealthy addiction at times.

[RexImperator]

I think I might need to start my own thread similar to this one.

[RunsWithScissors]

Read the whole thing, really impressed by the members of the forum stepping up to help this guy and to the greenman for not only sticking with it but reporting back.

[DrCotard]

I've read the entire thread and I want to congratulate OP for accepting the generous help offered by senior RVF members. You described your problems with pinpoint accuracy and some members like Giovonny have positively identified your sticking points. Also it's very admirable you took the necessary steps to overcome your game problems and managed to find a girlfriend using the advice provided by the veteran members.

Regarding the PUA industry, this thread confirms why the classical PUAs are slammed here and over the web.

Also, this thread confirms the importance of having a good inner game.

[Cattle Rustler]

Has anybody heard from OP? I'm interested in seeing how he's doing.

[Giovonny]

(04-19-2016 06:50 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

I might need to start my own thread similar to this one.

Do it!

We will help you!

[Merenguero]

(10-22-2016 12:08 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

Has anybody heard from OP? I'm interested in seeing how he's doing.

I have his number somewhere, if that's still his number, and may reach out to him when I have some time. My guess is he's doing really well.

[Suits]

(11-29-2015 12:52 AM)Travesty Wrote:  

(06-06-2014 04:54 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

This could turn into the birth of Ultimate Player Champion Rising From The Ashes.

I predict ban or 200 rep points for a
miracle.

(06-06-2014 06:43 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

^ If this isn't a troll this guy may be the most famous newbie ever to come to RVF.

(06-06-2014 10:49 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

This could end up being a movie script seriously.

(06-06-2014 11:43 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

This guy's gonna be RVF's Captain Planet with all our powers combined.

Ok we need to group together and get this guy 200 rep points.

I did my part. Everyone else needs to pitch in. Ten reps down, 190 still to go.

[Chowder Head]

I'm a bit surprised that someone who received so much help from this forum isn't that active on it now. He hasn't been here since June. I guess he got what he needed and bounced. This is a thread that he should give updates on his life.