[Il Bersagliere]

Glad things worked out for you in the end, OP. But seriously 3000 approaches?!

I haven't started approaching yet, but the thought of not getting good results from that are scary.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Congratulations Greenman!

I would still recommend you to do some Red PIll therapy or read at least the books Rational Male 1 & 2.

[polar]

(05-20-2015 11:55 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

Glad things worked out for you in the end, OP. But seriously 3000 approaches?!

I haven't started approaching yet, but the thought of not getting good results from that are scary.

In a year, you may or may not have a few hundred approaches under your belt...but you will be one year older.

A year from now, you will wish you had started today.

[reco2100]

Hey man congratulations on the girlfriends and traveling to Asia on your own. You have done a lot and have a long way to go still. Let me offer a couple of different sugesstions.

1. Stop masturbation at least for a while. This will really fuck up your sex life. And absolutely ruins your sexual presence. It imbalances your hormones particularly too much dopamine and not enough oxytocin. Which really really harms your ability to enjoy sex once you finally do get into the pussy. Your descriptions of experience sex are almost depressing. All nice guys have sexual issues.

2. Also you need to be sexually available to women when you meet them. This is why women are shying away from you after you spend a little time with them. They don't think of you as a sexual being. Touching is the easiest way to communicate sexuality. Been discussed on here a lot. Nice guys hide their sexuality from women very well. It is a form of avoidance. Possibly related to abandonment issues when you were a kid.

3. Read the book "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Dr. Robert Glover. I read a lot and this is one of the most important books I have ever read. Not red pill per se but many of his ideas concur with the manosphere. He gives you very concrete therapies and work to do to get you out of this funk you are in. With your parents issues this will definetly help but you have to put in the work and it can be difficult. And with all you have accomplished you are not out of the woods yet.

The issues you have are deep within you and will come back and show themselves even if you do get a girlfriend that you really like. The shit has to be rooted out game helps but it is only part of the solution.

Good luck.

[civpro]

This thread has been an education.

[Lizard King]

(05-20-2015 09:52 AM)thegreenman Wrote:  

The lesson is: if you do anything sexual with another girl, tell the one you're currently dating about it. Just tell her. She can respond however she chooses, including breaking up with you right then and there - but tell her.

+1 to what polar said.

NEVER admit to anything like that. ever.

Honesty is a commodity. Use it wisely.

[Il Bersagliere]

(05-20-2015 01:34 PM)polar Wrote:  

(05-20-2015 11:55 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

Glad things worked out for you in the end, OP. But seriously 3000 approaches?!

I haven't started approaching yet, but the thought of not getting good results from that are scary.

In a year, you may or may not have a few hundred approaches under your belt...but you will be one year older.

A year from now, you will wish you had started today.

When I finish Bang, I'll start. Swear.

[polar]

(05-21-2015 05:02 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

(05-20-2015 01:34 PM)polar Wrote:  

(05-20-2015 11:55 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

Glad things worked out for you in the end, OP. But seriously 3000 approaches?!

I haven't started approaching yet, but the thought of not getting good results from that are scary.

In a year, you may or may not have a few hundred approaches under your belt...but you will be one year older.

A year from now, you will wish you had started today.

When I finish Bang, I'll start. Swear.

Do a write-up on your first hundred approaches (best, worst, lessons learned, change in attitude, etc.) and I promise you a rep point.

[TripleG]

@Thegreenman, i've enjoyed this thread and congratulations on having the longest and one of the more entertaining first posts in the history of RooshV forum however I still have to nitpick your "record":

First of all I cannot give props to any guy who looses his virginity via P4P. This forum does not encourage P4P and game is completely against it. You really don't have to resort to that, especially if you've made 3,000+ approaches. Even an American whale with acne on her back sitting at some Friday's restaurant would be better than a Thai pro who has probably slept with thousands of guys.

Second of all, you got "2" girlfriends while in China but it seems like you did not use any game to pick them up, they approached you (one offered to translate, the other asked for you to teach English).

I still want you to do a successful daygame or nightgame approach on a normal girl and document it for us from first approach to first date, second date, etc. Perhaps, when you arrive to Baltimore you can go out to a bar in Canton or Fells Point with one of the senior members so they can observe your game and comment on it in full.

As it stands now I still feel you have many issues to work out.

[Surreyman]

Just finished this thread. What an amazing story.

I absolutely love this forum.

[thegreenman]

Alright, well I'm back in Baltimore. For a few weeks. Who wants to party!? I promise I'll do some approachin. Send me a PM.

[Repo]

Wow can't believe I missed this thread. Giving this thread a bump, I hope you find a wingman greenman. Good luck, I hope you are seeing improvements.

[~wrIghter~]

Excellent journey! Seems you have come quite a ways. Looking forward to future reports and progress.

[extracube]

Phew, finally made it through the 12 pages so far. Had to skip some of the replies just to get through. Admittedly the OP took a lot of flack the first 5 pages or so, people talking about he's fake, reporting him to the FBI, he really took a lot. My hat is off that he stuck it through and persisted.

Have enjoyed the read so far, looking for more of the story.

Will PM you a few comments.

[amusedmastery]

Statistically, this is almost impossible. 3000 approaches puts you in contact with women on so many different emotional, menstrual, horny, post breakup and inebriated states that you should have hit close to 300 lays by now.

We need more info on this but you need to abridge this book you're writing.

Not saying you're a troll, btw. Just need more info.

[PapayaTapper]

(06-14-2015 05:08 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  

Just finished this thread. What an amazing story.

I absolutely love this forum.

I remember when this thread started. I also remember how some of the more established members (particularly Giovanny and Merenguero) came forward and made a real effort to help this guy out.

[Gustavus Adolphus]

(07-12-2015 11:39 PM)amusedmastery Wrote:  

Statistically, this is almost impossible. 3000 approaches puts you in contact with women on so many different emotional, menstrual, horny, post breakup and inebriated states that you should have hit close to 300 lays by now.

We need more info on this but you need to abridge this book you're writing.

Not saying you're a troll, btw. Just need more info.

Just read this whole discussion. Have you?

I'm showing 12 pages and almost 300 replies, verified by senior members on numerous posts as I was going through it.

How much info you need?

[GoSkins]

Haven't really read the thread, but I hope someone emphasized that it really is a numbers game, and 3,000 approaches is impressive.

Back in 1993, as a teenager, my wing and I kept track of our approaches on a week long beach trip. In 6 nights, we made 92 approaches. Each kissed 6 girls, and messed around sexually with just 1. We didn't bang anyone, because we were just 15 yrs old at the time.

[thegreenman]

Hey fellas! I'm back!

I'm currently in Bangkok, living with a girl I met on OkCupid.

I'm up to my eyeballs in feminine contact.

I can hardly even BELIEVE I'm the person who wrote the OP in this thread. It seems almost like a different person.

Everything's different. I'm not angry anymore. I don't hate women anymore.

Asia is fucking sweet.

[Merenguero]

(11-26-2015 12:32 AM)thegreenman Wrote:  

Hey fellas! I'm back!

I'm currently in Bangkok, living with a girl I met on OkCupid.

I'm up to my eyeballs in feminine contact.

I can hardly even BELIEVE I'm the person who wrote the OP in this thread. It seems almost like a different person.

Everything's different. I'm not angry anymore. I don't hate women anymore.

Asia is fucking sweet.

Thanks for the update. Don't take this this the wrong way, but I think the mere fact that you made a post that was only about seven lines long is a tell tale sign that you've made some serious progress.

[thegreenman]

On a side note, I did travel back to the States this past summer.

I even attended Roosh's lecture in DC. I introduced myself as "3000 approach troll." As in, "Hey Roosh! It's me, 3000 Approach Troll. Nice to finally meet you!"

After the lecture, we all headed up to the hotel's rooftop bar. There I discovered one of the best openers I've ever used. It's really simple. You go up to a group of girls (preferably a 3-set or greater), and say "Hey ladies, I have a question. Do you consider yourself a feminist?"

This line gets you an instant, automatic 5 minutes of conversation, GUARANTEED.

And it also gives you the chance to display "badboy" qualities, since according to modern feminists any man who isn't a feminist is "bad", and needs to be "tamed", which the girl obviously considers it her job to achieve... and the next thing you know she's "working on" you, and we all know how that turns out, hehe.

I told Roosh about my new killer opener, and he was a bit skeptical. He said "Yea, but will it get you laid?"

Well, the girls I opened with it, they had their hands on me within 5 minutes. The conversation started as political, but from political it moved into general "social", and from there we were talking about gender roles, and then sex roles, and then... sex. It's not that hard to move from one to the next.

"Are you a feminist?"

"Do you believe in gender roles?"

"How do you interpret the female gender role for yourself?"

"So you like to be submissive, but only in bed. Got it."

All that, within 5 minutes of opening.

See where I'm goin?

One of the girls eventually put her arm around my shoulder, in the middle of the bar. I didn't pursue the interaction any further because I had a girlfriend (in China) who I was going back to in just a few weeks, and I wasn't sure if I wanted to ditch monogamy just yet (it was my first relationship ever, gimme a break). Oh and also the girl at the bar was ENGAGED... And her breath smelled bad.

[PapayaTapper]

Welcome back GM

[OGNorCal707]

(11-26-2015 12:48 AM)thegreenman Wrote:  

I told Roosh about my new killer opener, and he was a bit skeptical. He said "Yea, but will it get you laid?"

[Lucky]

What a fucking story. Thought I had it rough when I did 250~ approaches before I got my first bang using Game but 3000~ is insane. As a late bloomer who used to think getting a girlfriend would solve my problems, some elements of your story resonated. You'll find having women in your life won't solve everything-- life's challenges will continue in different ways. But getting this area of your life handled is very important.

Congrats on finally getting laid.

[Pyrrhic victory]

why would you waste so much time writing this post ? You spent hours putting this together just to troll ?

Incredibly inefficient use of your time. You should have spent quality time washing your cat instead.